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The block explorer now has 577 confirmations for the double-spent coins intristin sent to the exchange that they never received.

intristin took his screencap when it only had 162 confirmations, which would be about 12 hours before he posted the screencap?  So maybe his wallet is fixed by now.

I'm the one who pointed it out. 

You're the one who double-spent coins to an exchange, sold them, and still have the same coins in your address because the exchange never received them. 

And then you tried to deny it instead of acknowledging that something was wrong.

Your own block explorer that you're hosting at your own website says the coins are still in your address.

So does the block explorer at multifaucet:

http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?address=FVhHfaR1U7KVkPanD9K8mC5SaJnuSLZbcX&blockexplorer=FIND




You deposited 58236.37353502 FindCoins at BTCPoolExchange, and you exchanged them for your own premined DGCS coins, and you still have the FindCoins in your wallet.

Those coins were supposed to be sent to a burn address, but the burn address is only holding 100 coins.

These are proven facts that everyone can see on the blockchain, so your screencaps mean nothing.

I've checked my findcoin debug.log after i've seen a lot of orphan in my transaction list.
I think the blockchain had a fork or was attacked, on 01/29 at 20:08 GMT my debug.log shows that my blockchain reorganize:
REORGANIZE
REORGANIZE: Disconnect blocks 300; 3ee2393e4814c1f6d8c9(block 226617)..42baf9bf84bd896a8476(block 226917)
REORGANIZE: Connect 45 blocks; 3ee2393e4814c1f6d8c9(block 226617)..6bd3f383ff1b2d3f6d81(block 226662)
3ee2393e4814c1f6d8c9 = block 226617 at 08:51 GMT (common chain)
6bd3f383ff1b2d3f6d81 = block 226662 at 20:08 GMT (new chain)
And if you look at the blockexplorer we see block 226618 was generated at 19:44 GMT
So every transaction made between the 01/29 at 8:51 GMT and 19:44 GMT are null

The blocks with the missing transactions always seem to be blocks that include stake modifiers. 

Maybe it's a coincidence, because there are only a few missing transactions to look at (and both missing sends to the burn address were included in the same block).

So far we have at least one deposit that went missing, other deposits which were credited by addresses sending to themselves, and we also have transactions which were sent to the burn address but never arrived.

If these transactions were all created by a custom wallet build, then there could be an error with malformed transactions that causes the blockchain to accept the transaction within a block but reject it when scanning addresses.

The transactions appear to be double-spent as staking operations - they're sent to an outside address, but also sent back to the sending address and staked.  And the balance ends up remaining in the sending address.

It would make sense for BTCPoolExchange to have custom wallet software, as most exchanges do.

But the first transaction came from an address that is assumed to be intristin's off-exchange wallet.

Are intristin and the exchange both using the same custom wallet that may have some altered code in regards to staking?

FpPYdkzUnvNjdTpS6vmHn6oAwEcKvw7u1x - Balance of 0 FIND, 0 transactions, 0 sent
Ft6mdDzEhgQ1FKjtsNpVR1m9gge38MpnMG    - Balance of .13 FIND, 5 transactions, 0 sent
FowEUrueyGrfZjjtVZnYQkwNvXeAkuFYAp - Balance of .011 FIND, 1 transaction, 0 sent
FVQG3p8NtfkGEBiCUndSQsi5FVfyqBir4f - Balance of 0 FIND, 0 transactions, 0 sent
FfwHT1NhBkNWjqLCdPVkUZVqmgoNYLJX1p - Balance of 14046.05329301 FIND, 686 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
Fjy8C99nxXn9QR77VHWYw4jVhDG3VEWmhH - Balance of 9647.50839652 FIND, 411 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
FXLmYAumohQyGphXRvif5eXgugp6StHd4C - Balance of 93321.69123926 Find, 1051 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
FhbxYgiCCyKadmyepVToCQNWMhP3wBdd7P - Balance of 2836.95831367 FIND, 93 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
FcbWKQRyaDeqzb4N3YA73P7vnNHYgKZZQZ - Balance of 13517.64897957 FIND, 256 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
FsMwxcAmCEF5YfVEvQLHrqd6a3cfcx5k2Y - Balance of 2753.03739791 FIND, 4 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
FW58xuwQtYShcTQ7KPxqyjSQiHMZP7E3cS - Balance of 129023.61645467 FIND, 2214 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
Fp8sZwrH21PsU17XejEVwA1C533CQS5Dwd - Balance of 0 FIND, 0 transactions, 0 sent
Fe2RL4zTDDK8GoxkHK3RcvnLLHK9fxxAuh - Balance of 0 FIND, 0 transactions, 0 sent
FXKLahV8uhruHY6zPsE1cYVGj67aTXVots - Balance of 0 FIND, 0 transactions, 0 sent



These are the current balances shown on both explorers.
None of these addresses show any sends to the burn address, or any sends at all other than PoS operations.

Is that supposed to be a joke?


Here are the only answers so far:




The block explorers say that the address only has 100 coins.  






Question not answered





False answer, he posted exchange addresses that have been staking.





Not an answer





Not an answer







It's not an answer to pretend like you are unaware of things that just appeared above in posts you quoted and responded to

Ok I'm more than happy to do that tonight when I get back

And I'm not saying Anyang about the explorers good or bad
Just showing you what's there

So you're saying intristin is running a fake block explorer. 

But how do you explain the multifaucet explorer?








Maybe if you rescan your wallet they'll show up. 

No read what i wrote I did not say we send them daily , i said we send them daily if they want , dont try to twist what i have written and well there the tx# for the transactions that have been sent and dont make things up , you asked questions , they were answered !!

THIS IS NOT TRUE
if you look at the output you can see that we sent the coins to the address  http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?blockexplorer=FIND&txid=daccba3587afecb7b1c6bf4f327a5522ec57847ff42b2f0e715792c9769229cc
http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?blockexplorer=FIND&txid=a86a6983ada8afa364d1a054a235bef4efd4b8530e52069a853e17bf26d281eb

SO if they did not get there  where are they ??
because we don't have them

Both explorers show that the burn address has only received 1 transaction, of 100.00000000 FIND.


http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?blockexplorer=FIND&address=FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn

http://findcoin.dcredits.com/search.php?id=1e60d8a5e11354694dd2db628ee05a4c0cf08c01b8d02a20c9be4a1883116f27




And guess what?

That transaction was sent from the same wallet that sent the missing transaction.

Last month intristin admitted that he sent the first test transaction of SpaceCoin from his own wallet.

This looks like a test transaction of FindCoin, and it's not from one of the addresses claimed above as exchange addresses.

So the person who tricked the exchange with a fake deposit that never arrived is intristin - unless someone else is the only person to ever send FindCoins to your burn address.









You send them daily, but you've only sent 1 transaction of 100 coins, 27 days after the "burn exchange" began?

As for being public?
intristin decides which coins you have to list
yes cause he is trading to those coins for burning , he decides which coins he wishes to burn against his coin!! Same as you decide which coins you want to burn against your coins or tokens

intristin decides when you can announce and open the new market
Yes and as stated burns end on the 30th of the month and start on the 31st or 1st unless there is a problem that will cause a delay

intristin decides what exchange rate you have to set on your markets
yes he says what he is will to trade for his coin , if they dont want the exchange rate they dont have to exchange it

intristin decides when you can stop exchanging the coins
answered above

intristin decides when you have to extend the exchange just for him after you've already ended it
No we dont , we dont extend it just for him if he requests for it to be extended , then if it is its extended for everyone

intristin decides when you can delist the coins
No , we delist it at the end of the period after all coins have been sent to the burn address and the wallet is deleted

intristin decides what burn address you have to use
The burn addresses are the one at cryptolife here is the link http://dev.cryptolife.net/trusted-burn-addresses/ alot of people use these addresses

intristin decides when you can send coins to the burn address

we send them if they like daily or when they want them sent there but they are all sent by the time the wallet is ready for deletion

This address sent you a deposit of 58236.37353502 FIND:
FVhHfaR1U7KVkPanD9K8mC5SaJnuSLZbcX


It was sent to your address:
FXKLahV8uhruHY6zPsE1cYVGj67aTXVots


That transaction is confirmed in block 226766, but the address itself shows that it has never received any transactions. 
It looks like someone somehow sent a fake transaction to your exchange and got free DGCS for it.




At least 2 of the other addresses you listed as your exchange addresses have been staking, have been sending FIND, and in fact sent deposits to themselves which were exchanged for DGCS:

FXLmYAumohQyGphXRvif5eXgugp6StHd4C   
FW58xuwQtYShcTQ7KPxqyjSQiHMZP7E3cS


I haven't checked the other addresses yet, but I've already posted about these 2 addresses.

According to the trade history on your exchange, these addresses match the trades of FindCoin for DGCS.

But the deposits of FindCoin came FROM these addresses, sent to themselves.  Obviously someone shouldn't be able to re-deposit coins that are already held on the exchange.

Hi ok i will get you what you ask for
we are not staking any coins at all
all our wallets are setup with that option turned off as standard

When coins get sent to our exchange  for any coin the databases get updated with the users balance
the coins done move in the wallets  at all unless they are  withdrawn.



#1 - What is the burn address for Findcoin?  
A FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn


#2 - What possible reason could you have for holding people's FindCoins for 30 days instead of burning them as you receive them?
A  Good question not sure why they are not sent every day i will find out why


#3 - Are you staking FindCoins?
A No we don't stake any coins

#4 - Have you sent any FindCoins to any other addresses after you received them?
A I will have to look in the Database to see if any have been sent out

#5 - Why does your exchange show a trade of 58236.37353502 FIND which was sent in block 226766, but the receiving address FXKLahV8uhruHY6zPsE1cYVGj67aTXVots has never received any coins?
A  Don't know  why it would say that  !!
this is a list of the Withdraws  from he exchange for Findcoin
UserName   Name   Amount   TxId   DatePaid   Address
DGCSBurn   FindCoin   99999.8   a86a6983ada8afa364d1a054a235bef4efd4b8530e52069a853e17bf26d281eb   2016-01-30 03:24:21.880   FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn
DGCSBurn   FindCoin   99999.8   daccba3587afecb7b1c6bf4f327a5522ec57847ff42b2f0e715792c9769229cc   2016-01-30 03:25:11.893   FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn
DGCSBurn   FindCoin   124689.8   pending...   2016-01-30 03:26:11.890   FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn
Need to get that one sorted out


This is a list off address on the exchange 
Address      DateCreated
FpPYdkzUnvNjdTpS6vmHn6oAwEcKvw7u1x   2016-01-01 06:27:46.803
Ft6mdDzEhgQ1FKjtsNpVR1m9gge38MpnMG   2016-01-01 06:27:51.203
FowEUrueyGrfZjjtVZnYQkwNvXeAkuFYAp   2016-01-02 00:36:18.663
FVQG3p8NtfkGEBiCUndSQsi5FVfyqBir4f   2016-01-02 00:36:23.253
FfwHT1NhBkNWjqLCdPVkUZVqmgoNYLJX1p   2016-01-16 07:58:41.163
Fjy8C99nxXn9QR77VHWYw4jVhDG3VEWmhH   2016-01-16 12:58:12.387
FXLmYAumohQyGphXRvif5eXgugp6StHd4C   2016-01-17 11:28:36.787
FhbxYgiCCyKadmyepVToCQNWMhP3wBdd7P   2016-01-21 13:52:50.613
FcbWKQRyaDeqzb4N3YA73P7vnNHYgKZZQZ   2016-01-22 08:39:10.847
FsMwxcAmCEF5YfVEvQLHrqd6a3cfcx5k2Y   2016-01-22 16:31:38.237
FW58xuwQtYShcTQ7KPxqyjSQiHMZP7E3cS   2016-01-22 19:55:52.067
Fp8sZwrH21PsU17XejEVwA1C533CQS5Dwd   2016-01-26 19:05:31.730
Fe2RL4zTDDK8GoxkHK3RcvnLLHK9fxxAuh   2016-01-26 19:05:39.047
FXKLahV8uhruHY6zPsE1cYVGj67aTXVots   2016-01-30 00:25:48.400

#6 - Why does your exchange show multiple trades of FIND sent to 2 of what appear to be your addresses, when those transactions were not received from someone else but just sent from the same wallet to itself?
A  Going to need more information on that one sorry what address ?

You want me to post more criticism of DGCS?  

The same problems were there last month with Spacecoin, but you're doing the same thing again this month with FindCoin.







#1 - What is the burn address for Findcoin?  

#2 - What possible reason could you have for holding people's FindCoins for 30 days instead of burning them as you receive them?

#3 - Are you staking FindCoins?

#4 - Have you sent any FindCoins to any other addresses after you received them?

#5 - Why does your exchange show a trade of 58236.37353502 FIND which was sent in block 226766, but the receiving address FXKLahV8uhruHY6zPsE1cYVGj67aTXVots has never received any coins?

#6 - Why does your exchange show multiple trades of FIND sent to 2 of what appear to be your addresses, when those transactions were not received from someone else but just sent from the same wallet to itself?






Right now you have a new coin market set up, but you are hiding which coin it is.

You hid what you were doing with people's SpaceCoins, and you hide what you're doing with people's FindCoins.

You hide what happens to the millions of premined DGCS, since you distribute them off-blockchain which makes it hidden instead of public.






If you want people to know that instead of just taking your word, there are easy ways using blockchains to prove it.  But you don't use those easy ways.







If you were open, you would show your balances to prove you're not using people's coins.  
Every altcoin exchange has the option of being public, but most of them don't - and most of them end up running away with the coins.


As for being public?
intristin decides which coins you have to list
intristin decides when you can announce and open the new market
intristin decides what exchange rate you have to set on your markets
intristin decides when you can stop exchanging the coins
intristin decides when you have to extend the exchange just for him after you've already ended it
intristin decides when you can delist the coins
intristin decides what burn address you have to use
intristin decides when you can send coins to the burn address


All of this was established last month.

It's a conflict of interests for your exchange to be run so much by a coin's dev, and it benefits that dev at the expense of your other users.

If you have a problem with MY exchange  just say it
ask me ANYTHING you want about the coin burns that we have done / are doing
and we will give you all the information you want
WE DONT HIDE ANYTHING
WE DONT SELL ANY COINS FROM ANY BURN THAT WE HAVE DONE / ARE DOING

WE ARE THE MOST OPEN / PUBLIC EXCHANGE THERE IS.

Last month you said asking for Proof of Burn was FUD.  But then you said you would send the exchanged coins held at BTCPoolExchange to the burn address at least once per week.

You opened the BTCPoolExchange market for FindCoin 30 days ago, and people have been sending their FindCoins there.  Have any of those FindCoins been sent to a burn address, or not?

When people send their coins to be burned, are those coins then being staked? 

Are you promising to reduce a coin's supply while you're actually staking and creating MORE coins instead?  Just like you did last month?

Well it's set up just like any other trade pair on any other exchange, so it would make sense to have the fees set up like everywhere else.







There isn't any record of any FindCoins being burned either.








That your coin doesn't use Proof of Burn?  Yes, it's obvious.