[ANN]HashCard: Revolutionising HOW You Use Credit & Debit Cards - page 4.

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Quote from: 8count on May 09, 2018, 06:49:21 PM

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good news STAGE II SALE IS LIVE: 20% BONUS ENDS and has already reached $ 2.685M
hopefully the better the day

They have to raise more money, it seems that only this ICO could provide real debit cards!

I don't think they need crazy big money like most ICOs, their hard cap is only 9mill. At this point they're at 2.8mill in stage 2 of the ICO. The ICO runs till 12th of June so it will be a good chance it will hit hard cap.

soft cap done $3.682M and waiting hard cap , me like thiss is project because before ico finished exchange already in confirmation in bancor Shocked

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Guys, I guess you need some explanations and I am willing to provide you some.

Also note I am not part of the team or I am not affiliated with it in any way.
I simply observed that many people do not understand how both crypto and card business work.

So let me provide this explanation to be quoted in the future as a proof that I know how things work.

Guys, relax, you are getting workign prepaid card issued by legitimate bank, which you will be able to ID based on the card number and papers that come along with the card. Crypto never touches the car here since it is funded via FIAT, so it is not against Mastercard rules. Other projects were either trying to get Mastercard licence or fund the card directly with crypto, which is against the rules. Hash Card is offering neat solution for the current days.

Now, if the above is not clear, let me provide some additional explanation.

It seems that some people do not understand how card issuing works.
It's not like MasterCard or Visa issues your cards. Your bank does. A company can become card issuer after meeting some requirements.
So all the crypto projects that wanted to offer crypto cards had two options:
1) Become issuer
2) Find a bank that will issue card for them
They would not be able to do number 1, because they usually were not meeting requirements and even if they did both Visa and Mastercard were against crypto cards so they would not get licence for that.
They could try number 2, but no bank would agree on this, because they would be risking their licence being revoked, because they were not allowed to create cards funded directly by crypto. WaveCrest was card issuer that was providing cards for many crypto projects before and they were working cards but then WaveCrest lost their licence.

Most projects were either trying to get their licence or find a bank that could issue the cards for them (this is a normal procedure). Hash Card was successful with it, because they designed a mechanisms that let's you use your card and fund it with crypto but technically crypto has no contact with the card (I explained it already above). Now, other project's that were unable to deliver things could easily copy what Harsh Card did. They could approach the bank and ask them for the same thing, so this is why it is very important for Hash Card guys to keep the bank details a secret as long as possible. Of course those will be revealed as soon as people get their cards, because bank's name is stated in the cardholders agreement and it can be tracked with couple of first digits on the card. This is why they need to cover those numbers on all the photos and videos, they do not want competitors to find out. They ordered 3000 cards in advance and if the ICO is successful (and it seems to be) they are going to sign exclusive deal, so competitors can not use the same bank's service. BTW, those are prepaid cards.

So here's what's going to happen:
1. They are sending first batch of cards during the ICO.
2. When people start getting the cards and notice they are indeed working as promised, the ICO will be sold out quickly. This is why they do not care about additional proofs or making a show and trying to prove anything to you. They know the ICO will sell out anyway.
3. Some people invested small sums just to get the cards and see for themselves that is is working. They are planning to buy more when the card arrives. Other people are waiting for the confirmation from the community that indeed everything is working as promised.
4. When the proofs start appearing, all those people will rush to take part in this ICO, but only some will be able to do so, because it will sell out quickly. Most of them will need to buy on the exchanges. And how expensive will the token be on the exchanges? Well, just look at market caps of all the other card projects (which don't even have a working card) and do your estimation.

Congratulations to those who managed to invest early!

https://twitter.com/hashcard/status/994928009898422273

whale123: By happenstance, HashCard embraces the same entity that I hawk in my siq. What are the odds? Roll Eyes

Did I mention that I'm not affiliated with HashCard in ANY way?

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Guys, I guess you need some explanations and I am willing to provide you some.

Also note I am not part of the team or I am not affiliated with it in any way.
I simply observed that many people do not understand how both crypto and card business work.

So let me provide this explanation to be quoted in the future as a proof that I know how things work.

Guys, relax, you are getting workign prepaid card issued by legitimate bank, which you will be able to ID based on the card number and papers that come along with the card. Crypto never touches the car here since it is funded via FIAT, so it is not against Mastercard rules. Other projects were either trying to get Mastercard licence or fund the card directly with crypto, which is against the rules. Hash Card is offering neat solution for the current days.

Now, if the above is not clear, let me provide some additional explanation.

It seems that some people do not understand how card issuing works.
It's not like MasterCard or Visa issues your cards. Your bank does. A company can become card issuer after meeting some requirements.
So all the crypto projects that wanted to offer crypto cards had two options:
1) Become issuer
2) Find a bank that will issue card for them
They would not be able to do number 1, because they usually were not meeting requirements and even if they did both Visa and Mastercard were against crypto cards so they would not get licence for that.
They could try number 2, but no bank would agree on this, because they would be risking their licence being revoked, because they were not allowed to create cards funded directly by crypto. WaveCrest was card issuer that was providing cards for many crypto projects before and they were working cards but then WaveCrest lost their licence.

Most projects were either trying to get their licence or find a bank that could issue the cards for them (this is a normal procedure). Hash Card was successful with it, because they designed a mechanisms that let's you use your card and fund it with crypto but technically crypto has no contact with the card (I explained it already above). Now, other project's that were unable to deliver things could easily copy what Harsh Card did. They could approach the bank and ask them for the same thing, so this is why it is very important for Hash Card guys to keep the bank details a secret as long as possible. Of course those will be revealed as soon as people get their cards, because bank's name is stated in the cardholders agreement and it can be tracked with couple of first digits on the card. This is why they need to cover those numbers on all the photos and videos, they do not want competitors to find out. They ordered 3000 cards in advance and if the ICO is successful (and it seems to be) they are going to sign exclusive deal, so competitors can not use the same bank's service. BTW, those are prepaid cards.

So here's what's going to happen:
1. They are sending first batch of cards during the ICO.
2. When people start getting the cards and notice they are indeed working as promised, the ICO will be sold out quickly. This is why they do not care about additional proofs or making a show and trying to prove anything to you. They know the ICO will sell out anyway.
3. Some people invested small sums just to get the cards and see for themselves that is is working. They are planning to buy more when the card arrives. Other people are waiting for the confirmation from the community that indeed everything is working as promised.
4. When the proofs start appearing, all those people will rush to take part in this ICO, but only some will be able to do so, because it will sell out quickly. Most of them will need to buy on the exchanges. And how expensive will the token be on the exchanges? Well, just look at market caps of all the other card projects (which don't even have a working card) and do your estimation.

Congratulations to those who managed to invest early!

Yep, I once worked at a restaurant where they signed an exclusive deal with a Chinese sect after they purchased 3,000 blueberry waffles. To this day, the restaurant in question no longer serves said waffles - their once biggest seller - since the milestone was reached. Roll Eyes

Translated: No fuckin bank is gonna take money off the table due to signing some exclusive contract with a team of up-to-now unknown crypto enthusiasts.

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HashCard is a real project. I saw their ads on https://etherscan.io. I went to their official website and studied the project carefully. It has very potential. It is different from the past. Credit card revolution！

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Hash Card is a debit card that converts cryptocurrencies to traditional currency in real-time. The Hash card allows users to transact real-time payments without first needing to convert the cryptocurrency in their wallet. It is accepted at tens of millions of merchants and ATMs worldwide and anywhere VISA and Mastercard is accepted.

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Quote from: hroub on May 11, 2018, 07:08:12 AM

The funny thing is that I am actually an invetor/customer, and received their "Your HashCard is reserved!" email. (I invested only what I can afford to lose!)
Instead of providing any "customer service" to their customers/investors, they just ban them when they find themselves unable to answer a concern/question... So that makes their "24/7 customer service" just another lie.

If I an investor/customer asked a logical question and was banned from Telegram, and their Admins, CS, and CFO just ignore my PMs, imagine how many others (non-investors) were censored/banned/blocked/ignored because of their questions Undecided

Yeah, they always delete it or the worst part is they banned you and accusing you as a troll.
I'm just asking for the actual picture *without hands of Pawel and covering that smart chip* for full specification.
It's just a shame that they don't have a sample one for the sake of the demo and tutorials.

They have no sample card for testing because that is fake, if we see that sample card we will also see the card number and track them to see if it's legit.

something is not right here. Roll Eyes

please refer to this thread : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hashcardio-a-scam-confirmed-3365068

might want to do more digging before ordering your haschcard. lol

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Are there any plans to list on the exchange?

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On the Bancor Network, holders of the Hash Card token (HSHC) will be able to convert HSHC to any other token on the Bancor Network. Users who want to buy HSHCs will be able to buy them directly through the Bancor Wallet. For example, if you have BNT tokens, you can directly buy HSHC tokens, or if you have HSHC tokens you can exchange them directly to any token listed on Bancor without needing to exchange it to ETH first.

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Quote from: hroub on May 11, 2018, 07:08:12 AM

The funny thing is that I am actually an invetor/customer, and received their "Your HashCard is reserved!" email. (I invested only what I can afford to lose!)
Instead of providing any "customer service" to their customers/investors, they just ban them when they find themselves unable to answer a concern/question... So that makes their "24/7 customer service" just another lie.

If I an investor/customer asked a logical question and was banned from Telegram, and their Admins, CS, and CFO just ignore my PMs, imagine how many others (non-investors) were censored/banned/blocked/ignored because of their questions Undecided

Yeah, they always delete it or the worst part is they banned you and accusing you as a troll.
I'm just asking for the actual picture *without hands of Pawel and covering that smart chip* for full specification.
It's just a shame that they don't have a sample one for the sake of the demo and tutorials.

They have no sample card for testing because that is fake, if we see that sample card we will also see the card number and track them to see if it's legit.

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Quote from: jacko316 on May 02, 2018, 02:38:32 AM

they would've tested this function before going live into production.

I'm thinking this too, they should release more demos and videos about the hashcard before going into pre-sale.
They attracted more contributors because of that limited free 3000 cards than the actual product.

As you can see their priority is money not the legitimacy of the project.

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The funny thing is that I am actually an invetor/customer, and received their "Your HashCard is reserved!" email. (I invested only what I can afford to lose!)
Instead of providing any "customer service" to their customers/investors, they just ban them when they find themselves unable to answer a concern/question... So that makes their "24/7 customer service" just another lie.

If I an investor/customer asked a logical question and was banned from Telegram, and their Admins, CS, and CFO just ignore my PMs, imagine how many others (non-investors) were censored/banned/blocked/ignored because of their questions Undecided

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My name is Jim Shockney (Slok) of team Hashcash handling the chat thingie. Play nice or you, too, will be banned.

"HashCard multi-pass Visa by secret Asian bank.
Don't leave home without it."

"Prior to HashCard, I didn't exist on the Internet. In the spirit of full transparency, I will reveal who I truly am once 3,000 Visa cards are sold."

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Quote from: Shivamxxx on April 20, 2018, 11:56:41 PM

The idea is bold and powerful. Swap and swiftly created at ATM. It really is a unique idea. However, the Hashcard will accept in the country? Is there a restriction? I care and pay attention to this project.

Quote from: 00DKM@ on April 17, 2018, 12:39:59 PM

The idea is bold and powerful. Swap and swiftly created at ATM. It really is a unique idea. However, the Hashcard will accept in the country? Is there a restriction? I care and pay attention to this project.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on May 10, 2018, 07:52:16 AM

Quote from: ATSgrowth on May 07, 2018, 10:18:38 AM

Quote from: becruxrubbish on May 07, 2018, 10:04:50 AM

The HashCard is a tangible asset that can be used at any place accepting debit/credit cards. It can be used both online and PoS terminals at brick-and-mortar shops. Even though the platform works like any other debit/credit card it allows users to spend Bitcoin, Ether and 25 other altcoins.

Hope, that the project won´t have any problem with the regulatory authority, because when someone wants to do something with fiat and crypto, there is always a problem..

i think there are only few countries that totally ban the use of crypto. so the individuals availing this hash card should know their limitations. otherwise, its their responsibility and not this platform.

by the way, are they going to send the first batch of hashcards to their clients this may 15th? is it pushing through?

From what I read on a twitter post they're still sending out the cards on the 15th https://twitter.com/hashcard/status/994236005606612992

Me personally, I don't care if they don't disclose the Asian bank, as long as when I get that card it works.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on May 10, 2018, 11:24:27 AM

Quote from: hroub on May 10, 2018, 07:56:34 AM

Quote from: ATSgrowth on May 10, 2018, 07:45:35 AM

Quote from: fantomasik on May 10, 2018, 05:47:14 AM

In my opinion, Monaco had problems with disconnecting from the VISA system. The idea is perfect, but where are the guarantees that everything will go according to plan and at such speeds

I think, that they have a license for issuing cards and after a few days they will deliver these cards, so it should be okay...

No. They claim to have a "secret deal" with a "secret Asian bank" that will issue the cards for them, and once they reach 3K card orders, they would be able to disclose the bank name and close an exclusivity deal with them. Cheesy

They claim they don't want to disclose the bank name so no other competitor would beat them to it and steal the deal from them. Cheesy

I still think that if they did it the right way and disclosed the bank now, they would reach the 3K card requirement to close the exclusivity deal within a matter of hours, and they will be able to close the deal before any competitor even gets a chance to meet with the "secret Asian bank".

if they will not reach that 3k card orders, the deal will not proceed with that secret asian bank? and are they going to pursue the project if they haven't got that deal? 15th is fast approaching though..

They say they will proceed regardless and that they can't disclose the "secret Asian bank" name until they reach the 3K card milestone... If anyone could explain why they don't disclose it immediately instead, so they can reach the 3K card milestone today and lock the exclusivity deal, I would make sure the 3K limit is reached within 24 hours max. But no one has been able to answer that "secret question. Tongue

Not Admins, not Telegram chat, not this Bitcoin ANN, not Pawel Goch on Telegram. They just banned me from their Telegram instead Tongue

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Quote from: hroub on May 10, 2018, 07:56:34 AM

Quote from: ATSgrowth on May 10, 2018, 07:45:35 AM

Quote from: fantomasik on May 10, 2018, 05:47:14 AM

In my opinion, Monaco had problems with disconnecting from the VISA system. The idea is perfect, but where are the guarantees that everything will go according to plan and at such speeds

I think, that they have a license for issuing cards and after a few days they will deliver these cards, so it should be okay...

No. They claim to have a "secret deal" with a "secret Asian bank" that will issue the cards for them, and once they reach 3K card orders, they would be able to disclose the bank name and close an exclusivity deal with them. Cheesy

They claim they don't want to disclose the bank name so no other competitor would beat them to it and steal the deal from them. Cheesy

I still think that if they did it the right way and disclosed the bank now, they would reach the 3K card requirement to close the exclusivity deal within a matter of hours, and they will be able to close the deal before any competitor even gets a chance to meet with the "secret Asian bank".

if they will not reach that 3k card orders, the deal will not proceed with that secret asian bank? and are they going to pursue the project if they havent got that deal? 15th is fast approaching though..

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Quote from: ATSgrowth on May 10, 2018, 07:45:35 AM

Quote from: fantomasik on May 10, 2018, 05:47:14 AM

In my opinion, Monaco had problems with disconnecting from the VISA system. The idea is perfect, but where are the guarantees that everything will go according to plan and at such speeds

I think, that they have a license for issuing cards and after a few days they will deliver these cards, so it should be okay...

No. They claim to have a "secret deal" with a "secret Asian bank" that will issue the cards for them, and once they reach 3K card orders, they would be able to disclose the bank name and close an exclusivity deal with them. Cheesy

They claim they don't want to disclose the bank name so no other competitor would beat them to it and steal the deal from them. Cheesy

I still think that if they did it the right way and disclosed the bank now, they would reach the 3K card requirement to close the exclusivity deal within a matter of hours, and they will be able to close the deal before any competitor even gets a chance to meet with the "secret Asian bank".

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Quote from: ATSgrowth on May 07, 2018, 10:18:38 AM

Quote from: becruxrubbish on May 07, 2018, 10:04:50 AM

The HashCard is a tangible asset that can be used at any place accepting debit/credit cards. It can be used both online and PoS terminals at brick-and-mortar shops. Even though the platform works like any other debit/credit card it allows users to spend Bitcoin, Ether and 25 other altcoins.

Hope, that the project won´t have any problem with the regulatory authority, because when someone wants to do something with fiat and crypto, there is always a problem..

i think there are only few countries that totally ban the use of crypto. so the individuals availing this hash card should know their limitations. otherwise, its their responsibility and not this platform.

by the way, are they going to send the first batch of hashcards to their clients this may 15th? is it pushing through?

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Quote from: fantomasik on May 10, 2018, 05:47:14 AM

In my opinion, Monaco had problems with disconnecting from the VISA system. The idea is perfect, but where are the guarantees that everything will go according to plan and at such speeds

I think, that they have a license for issuing cards and after a few days they will deliver these cards, so it should be okay...

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In my opinion, Monaco had problems with disconnecting from the VISA system. The idea is perfect, but where are the guarantees that everything will go according to plan and at such speeds

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