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Quote from: Trade_BTC on November 26, 2017, 03:40:56 PM

Quote from: thesavoyard on November 26, 2017, 09:59:09 AM

Quote from: coinporch on November 26, 2017, 08:41:01 AM

what is the main reason,
why the helium team doesn't announce the exact date of launch ?

Security and quality. They don't want to commit to a date until it's ready. I imagine they aren't just releasing a Dash clone but making changes in advance. He may be implementing service node code for all I know. He has been working on service nodes for a while, he may have a beta version ready to deploy.

He also said that the blockchain is vulnerable until it is stable, it can be forked in an attack. So he doesn't want people targeting the blockchain before it's public.

I am glad they are taking precautions to prevent issues but at the same time excited to get this coin born.

For those that don't know, try using Xios or Burstcoin. Birstcoin was fractured into 6 blockchains and now Xios has forking problems. Most users have no idea to go to Discord and download a file to ban bad nodes to get them off a fork. A badly written code will destroy a coin, not just damage it.

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Quote from: thesavoyard on November 26, 2017, 09:59:09 AM

Quote from: coinporch on November 26, 2017, 08:41:01 AM

what is the main reason,
why the helium team doesn't announce the exact date of launch ?

Security and quality. They don't want to commit to a date until it's ready. I imagine they aren't just releasing a Dash clone but making changes in advance. He may be implementing service node code for all I know. He has been working on service nodes for a while, he may have a beta version ready to deploy.

He also said that the blockchain is vulnerable until it is stable, it can be forked in an attack. So he doesn't want people targeting the blockchain before it's public.

I am glad they are taking precautions to prevent issues but at the same time excited to get this coin born.

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Quote from: coinporch on November 26, 2017, 08:41:01 AM

what is the main reason,
why the helium team doesn't announce the exact date of launch ?

Security and quality. They don't want to commit to a date until it's ready. I imagine they aren't just releasing a Dash clone but making changes in advance. He may be implementing service node code for all I know. He has been working on service nodes for a while, he may have a beta version ready to deploy.

He also said that the blockchain is vulnerable until it is stable, it can be forked in an attack. So he doesn't want people targeting the blockchain before it's public.

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what is the main reason,
why the helium team doesn't announce the exact date of launch ?

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Quote from: thesavoyard on November 26, 2017, 04:18:08 AM

The last coins101 said is he doesn't see why the launch wouldn't be this month. That doesn't exclude unforeseen delays, let's just hope everything goes well.

That's definitely reassuring. I know it hasn't been THAT long, but it feels like an eternity!

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I will be waiting for the full released information about this project, what i have read so far seems encouraging

thesavoyard

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The last coins101 said is he doesn't see why the launch wouldn't be this month. That doesn't exclude unforeseen delays, let's just hope everything goes well.

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Quote from: Trade_BTC on November 25, 2017, 11:05:27 PM

Can the team at least let us know if Helium launch will occur in December or are we looking at 2018? Its not asking too much to peg a month down if not an exact date. Mystery's are fun but everything should also be in moderation and the twitter teasers are killing me at this point. All of us in x11 coins need a hero and hope this is the one.

Yeah I agree. The twitter posts seem to be hinting at an imminent launch, but aren't really saying anything in particular...

Devs, throw us a bone!

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Can the team at least let us know if Helium launch will occur in December or are we looking at 2018? Its not asking too much to peg a month down if not an exact date. Mystery's are fun but everything should also be in moderation and the twitter teasers are killing me at this point. All of us in x11 coins need a hero and hope this is the one.

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Quote from: RzeroD on November 25, 2017, 08:55:43 AM

Quote from: lijoe408 on November 24, 2017, 06:38:10 PM

Not sure what you're arguing? You're saying that I had one week to move the coin which would have taken me 5 mins? I'm telling you I didn't know about the switch to cryptopia. Yes I could have checked this thread more frequently, and I did do so for a while. However the date was originally stated months ago and kept getting pushed back week after week. You guys can defend all you want, and i'm sure you will b/c of your own stake in the project. Good luck to you guys, but doesn't change the fact that this was handled very poorly.

This whole timeline makes no sense. Why not give more than a weeks notice, especially if your wallet is not even ready for over a month after? Why approach an exchange like bittrex afterwards unless you know that alot of people were left out.

To err is human; to blame it on the other guy is even more human.

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Quote from: lijoe408 on November 24, 2017, 06:38:10 PM

...I'm telling you I didn't know about the ...

And who's fault is this? I'd love to see you arguing with a police officer or a judge with that reasoning...

The airdrop was not to be "fair" to everybody, it was done to create a way out for SPR investors by getting a head start with HLM.
And it is great for HLM too, since it will start with a lot of coins in circulation - great for some market stability.

It was also seen by speculators (aka traders) as an easy way to gain profit. Also a reason for them to keep SPR at bittrex.
At many occasions (for months) it was strongly recommended to put all your funds in a wallet. You didn't know? Again - who's fault is that?

Quote from: lijoe408 on November 24, 2017, 06:38:10 PM

...Yes I could have checked this thread more frequently, ....

I rest my case...

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Quote from: RzeroD on November 25, 2017, 08:55:43 AM

Quote from: lijoe408 on November 24, 2017, 06:38:10 PM

Not sure what you're arguing? You're saying that I had one week to move the coin which would have taken me 5 mins? I'm telling you I didn't know about the switch to cryptopia. Yes I could have checked this thread more frequently, and I did do so for a while. However the date was originally stated months ago and kept getting pushed back week after week. You guys can defend all you want, and i'm sure you will b/c of your own stake in the project. Good luck to you guys, but doesn't change the fact that this was handled very poorly.

This whole timeline makes no sense. Why not give more than a weeks notice, especially if your wallet is not even ready for over a month after? Why approach an exchange like bittrex afterwards unless you know that alot of people were left out.

To err is human; to blame it on the other guy is even more human.

He does make legit points, but you really can't blame the core team. They tried to get Bittrex onboard, Cryptopia stepped up. It was the demand for an exchange that kept delaying the project, so coins101 decided to move forward as soon as he got an exchange on board. It is a matter of circumstance.

Is there any way they can prove the owned SPR on Bittrex during the snapshot? Are the coins kept in individual wallets or in a pool that has multiple public addresses? This is exactly why we need NVO, we shouldn't have to let an exchange control our coins in order to trade.

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Quote from: lijoe408 on November 24, 2017, 06:38:10 PM

...I'm telling you I didn't know about the ...

And who's fault is this? I'd love to see you arguing with a police officer or a judge with that reasoning...

The airdrop was not to be "fair" to everybody, it was done to create a way out for SPR investors by getting a head start with HLM.
And it is great for HLM too, since it will start with a lot of coins in circulation - great for some market stability.

It was also seen by speculators (aka traders) as an easy way to gain profit. Also a reason for them to keep SPR at bittrex.
At many occasions (for months) it was strongly recommended to put all your funds in a wallet. You didn't know? Again - who's fault is that?

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Quote from: lijoe408 on November 24, 2017, 06:38:10 PM

Not sure what you're arguing? You're saying that I had one week to move the coin which would have taken me 5 mins? I'm telling you I didn't know about the switch to cryptopia. Yes I could have checked this thread more frequently, and I did do so for a while. However the date was originally stated months ago and kept getting pushed back week after week. You guys can defend all you want, and i'm sure you will b/c of your own stake in the project. Good luck to you guys, but doesn't change the fact that this was handled very poorly.

This whole timeline makes no sense. Why not give more than a weeks notice, especially if your wallet is not even ready for over a month after? Why approach an exchange like bittrex afterwards unless you know that alot of people were left out.

To err is human; to blame it on the other guy is even more human.

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Quote from: sirazimuth on November 24, 2017, 12:29:11 AM

Quote from: brownfly on November 22, 2017, 04:29:51 PM

I have never had problems with syncing the SPR wallet. What I did wrong?

Yeah me too and I solo mined spreadcoin for a year 24/7 and
never had a problem with my spreadcoin wallet synching.
Oh wait, I did have another problem though. Couldn't get the vanity thing to work.
Yup, that sure was a big problem alright.
Not being able to have a vanity receiving addy..dang near killed me doncha know!! lol
I actually figured it out in the end.

Ya know I just dont understand these whiners that claim they missed out on the snapshot.
It was clearly announced that Crytopia would be used for coin swap like at least a week
before the snapshot. I actually waited a few days before putting my coins there.

Quote from: lijoe408 on November 22, 2017, 03:07:11 AM

Then all of a sudden 1 week before the airdrop they change to Cryptopia and give no notice except in slack.

it absolutely was announced in this thread. One week isn't enough time to make a few mouse clicks and move your coins? Please...
I have never used Slack and I moved my coins to Cryptopia 3 days before snapshot. Took me all of 5 minutes....

Not only that, you didn't even have to move them , holding in wallet woulda been fine....

Not sure what you're arguing? You're saying that I had one week to move the coin which would have taken me 5 mins? I'm telling you I didn't know about the switch to cryptopia. Yes I could have checked this thread more frequently, and I did do so for a while. However the date was originally stated months ago and kept getting pushed back week after week. You guys can defend all you want, and i'm sure you will b/c of your own stake in the project. Good luck to you guys, but doesn't change the fact that this was handled very poorly.

This whole timeline makes no sense. Why not give more than a weeks notice, especially if your wallet is not even ready for over a month after? Why approach an exchange like bittrex afterwards unless you know that alot of people were left out.

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Quote from: sirazimuth on November 24, 2017, 12:29:11 AM

Quote from: brownfly on November 22, 2017, 04:29:51 PM

I have never had problems with syncing the SPR wallet. What I did wrong?

Yeah me too and I solo mined spreadcoin for a year 24/7 and
never had a problem with my spreadcoin wallet synching.
Oh wait, I did have another problem though. Couldn't get the vanity thing to work.
Yup, that sure was a big problem alright.
Not being able to have a vanity receiving addy..dang near killed me doncha know!! lol
I actually figured it out in the end.

Ya know I just dont understand these whiners that claim they missed out on the snapshot.
It was clearly announced that Crytopia would be used for coin swap like at least a week
before the snapshot. I actually waited a few days before putting my coins there.

Quote from: lijoe408 on November 22, 2017, 03:07:11 AM

Then all of a sudden 1 week before the airdrop they change to Cryptopia and give no notice except in slack.

it absolutely was announced in this thread. One week isn't enough time to make a few mouse clicks and move your coins? Please...
I have never used Slack and I moved my coins to Cryptopia 3 days before snapshot. Took me all of 5 minutes....

Not only that you didn't even have to move them , holding in wallet woulda been fine....

yeah haha i never used slack for helium and i sent before snapshot my spr from my desktop wallet to cryptopia.. so if you are not activ and you dont hold the coins in the wallet its your own fault.

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Quote from: brownfly on November 22, 2017, 04:29:51 PM

I have never had problems with syncing the SPR wallet. What I did wrong?

Yeah me too and I solo mined spreadcoin for a year 24/7 and
never had a problem with my spreadcoin wallet synching.
Oh wait, I did have another problem though. Couldn't get the vanity thing to work.
Yup, that sure was a big problem alright.
Not being able to have a vanity receiving addy..dang near killed me doncha know!! lol
I actually figured it out in the end.

Ya know I just dont understand these whiners that claim they missed out on the snapshot.
It was clearly announced that Crytopia would be used for coin swap like at least a week
before the snapshot. I actually waited a few days before putting my coins there.

Quote from: lijoe408 on November 22, 2017, 03:07:11 AM

Then all of a sudden 1 week before the airdrop they change to Cryptopia and give no notice except in slack.

it absolutely was announced in this thread. One week isn't enough time to make a few mouse clicks and move your coins? Please...
I have never used Slack and I moved my coins to Cryptopia 3 days before snapshot. Took me all of 5 minutes....

Not only that, you didn't even have to move them , holding in wallet woulda been fine....

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Quote from: lijoe408 on November 22, 2017, 04:26:04 PM

Did you follow the SPR thread? multiple people were having wallet issues like no syncing due to the lack of support for SPR at that point. There was no way that holding in SPR was any better than Bittrex. That's why coins said he was in talk to with bittrex to facilitate the process.

Holding your coins in a wallet is ALWAYS better than keeping them in an exchange. In fact, you didn't need to synchronize the wallet, you just needed to send your SPR to an address of which you had its private key. You could do that even with a paper wallet.

Quote from: lijoe408 on November 22, 2017, 04:34:16 PM

Yes he posted it 1 week before swap in this thread and didnt even bother to post in the frontpage. I'm happy that you were able to do the swap in time, but many of us were not.

Yes he did offer HLM to Bittrex after the snapshot, but do you seriously think Bittrex is going to sort through thousands of transactions and balances? After the swap, people were moving their balances to Bittrex to dump SPR. Why would an exchange do your work for you and sort through all these transactions to figure out who owns what and when they owned it.

The correct way to do this would have been to come to an agreement beforehand and swap at the same time, and if that wasn't possible then give adequate notice and make sure the information is well publicized. You guys cannot seriously defend that this was handled well. The fact that alot of people were left out is a testament to this.

It is still your fault. It was never confirmed that Bittrex was going to support the snapshot and it was said many times that if you were not going to be up to date with the project you must move your coins to the wallet to avoid problems. In fact, anyone who had been asking and had doubts was directly recommended to leave the coins in the wallet.

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Quote from: thesavoyard on November 22, 2017, 01:19:59 PM

Quote from: lijoe408 on November 22, 2017, 03:07:11 AM

Quote from: thesavoyard on November 22, 2017, 02:38:25 AM

Quote from: lijoe408 on November 22, 2017, 02:18:50 AM

This project is dead? First the multiple delays in when snapshot and token swap will happen. Then you screw everyone who held their SPR on bittrex waiting for swap. Now multiple week delay to launch wallet? Any trust in this project should be gone at this point.

There were delays because the community demanded and exchange for the snapshot. They announced in advance that Bittrex would not be handling the swap and offered Bittrex Helium for anyone that didn't get the news and held their coins there. They did not promise a date to launch the wallet and make Helium chain go live, they are working on it. These are all signs of a well thought out project, they aren't rushing anything.

When did they offer Helium for anyone who held their coins at Bittrex? I know a few people who asked the founder how to get helium and was told to contact Bittrex and try to get them on board. After Back and forth with Bittrex they said that they wouldn't be doing anything to swap the coins so we gave up.

The whole time, it was announced they were going to bittrex and in talks with them. Then all of a sudden 1 week before the airdrop they change to Cryptopia and give no notice except in slack. They didn't even bother to update the front page of their ANN or anywhere on their website with this info. So after pushing the airdrop date for months, they announce a diff exchange and the only place that you could find that info was slack.

So announcing a new exchange for the swap 1 week prior after months of delay is good practice with you? not having any peep or wallet up weeks later is good practice also? Not even bothering to update their ANN/Website with Swap details also? You're shilling hard to even suggest that this process was handled well

I got news that it was going to be on Cryptopia from this thread. coins101 made a statement that they are trying to get Bittrex support to swap people that held there accidently, he said the Helium team offered Helium to Bittrex to accommodate them.

Yes he posted it 1 week before swap in this thread and didnt even bother to post in the frontpage. I'm happy that you were able to do the swap in time, but many of us were not.

Yes he did offer HLM to Bittrex after the snapshot, but do you seriously think Bittrex is going to sort through thousands of transactions and balances? After the swap, people were moving their balances to Bittrex to dump SPR. Why would an exchange do your work for you and sort through all these transactions to figure out who owns what and when they owned it.

The correct way to do this would have been to come to an agreement beforehand and swap at the same time, and if that wasn't possible then give adequate notice and make sure the information is well publicized. You guys cannot seriously defend that this was handled well. The fact that alot of people were left out is a testament to this.

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I have never had problems with syncing the SPR wallet. What I did wrong?

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Quote from: mdude77 on November 22, 2017, 09:35:17 AM

Quote from: lijoe408 on November 22, 2017, 03:07:11 AM

When did they offer Helium for anyone who held their coins at Bittrex? I know a few people who asked the founder how to get helium and was told to contact Bittrex and try to get them on board. After Back and forth with Bittrex they said that they wouldn't be doing anything to swap the coins so we gave up.

The whole time, it was announced they were going to bittrex and in talks with them. Then all of a sudden 1 week before the airdrop they change to Cryptopia and give no notice except in slack. They didn't even bother to update the front page of their ANN or anywhere on their website with this info. So after pushing the airdrop date for months, they announce a diff exchange and the only place that you could find that info was slack.

So announcing a new exchange for the swap 1 week prior after months of delay is good practice with you? not having any peep or wallet up weeks later is good practice also? Not even bothering to update their ANN/Website with Swap details also? You're shilling hard to even suggest that this process was handled well

I believe it was clearly stated, multiple times, the safest places for your coins is your wallet. Not an exchange.

M

Did you follow the SPR thread? multiple people were having wallet issues like no syncing due to the lack of support for SPR at that point. There was no way that holding in SPR was any better than Bittrex. That's why coins said he was in talk to with bittrex to facilitate the process.

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