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legendary
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I'm losing faith I'll eve recover my HUC from my wallet. There's just no way I could sync it, it stops responding as soon as it's opened  Cry

10k HUC probably gone to wind.

Similar boat, but it is 100,000 HUC
newbie
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set  it and forget it yo, thats why i try to sync up my wallets every so often so it dont take forever to sync the next time i open it
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I'm losing faith I'll eve recover my HUC from my wallet. There's just no way I could sync it, it stops responding as soon as it's opened  Cry

10k HUC probably gone to wind.

Or wait until the pruning of the blockchain is complete. It's useless selling your HUC now at such a low price anyway!
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It takes forever.... just open it and forget about it for a while. It'll eventually sync.
legendary
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I'm losing faith I'll eve recover my HUC from my wallet. There's just no way I could sync it, it stops responding as soon as it's opened  Cry

10k HUC probably gone to wind.
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Welcome to dogietalk.bs
Hi domob, thanks for getting back to me. According to this link:

http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/trusty/main/base/gcc

it's 4:4.8.2-1ubuntu6 - if you know the syntax that will tell me what's on my unit I can tell you for sure.

Cheers

Edit - found it! - gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1)

Ok - at least, I know that I'm using 4.7.2 (Debian Wheezy), so it may be related to that.  I'll try to install 4.8.2 from source to check this when I come around.  But I still don't really know whether or not this can be related.

If it's of any use, the error appears right at the very end of compiling, there are zero errors/warnings up until the very end.
legendary
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Hi domob, thanks for getting back to me. According to this link:

http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/trusty/main/base/gcc

it's 4:4.8.2-1ubuntu6 - if you know the syntax that will tell me what's on my unit I can tell you for sure.

Cheers

Edit - found it! - gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1)

Ok - at least, I know that I'm using 4.7.2 (Debian Wheezy), so it may be related to that.  I'll try to install 4.8.2 from source to check this when I come around.  But I still don't really know whether or not this can be related.
sr. member
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Welcome to dogietalk.bs
Hi domob, thanks for getting back to me. According to this link:

http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/trusty/main/base/gcc

it's 4:4.8.2-1ubuntu6 - if you know the syntax that will tell me what's on my unit I can tell you for sure.

Cheers

Edit - found it! (using gcc -v) - it's version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1)
legendary
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I'd PM Domob if I was you.

Yes, snailbrain already told me about the problem - and I have to admit, I don't really know what the problem is.  What is your version of gcc in the new Ubuntu?  Maybe it made some linker semantics more strict and this makes the code fail due to some minor "bug".

Also f72cfa043daade216750d9e260cd3a299548dd52829c3703af36da08c802fac2 (thanks Domob)

Got it, thank you very much!  Very appreciated - I'll move it to my "semi-cold" storage soon. Wink
legendary
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Greets guys,

Having some difficulties compiling the daemon here. I want to add HUC to my p2pool node and have already compiled 5 other wallet daemons - including NMC - without issues, so I know it's not a dependency thing. Here's a copy of the error I keep getting:

obj/db.o: In function `void CDiskBlockIndex::Unserialize(CDataStream&, int, int)':
db.cpp:(.text._ZN15CDiskBlockIndex11UnserializeI11CDataStreamEEvRT_ii[_ZN15CDiskBlockIndex11UnserializeI11CDataStreamEEvRT_ii]+0x175): undefined reference to `int ReadWriteAuxPow(CDataStream&, boost::shared_ptr&, int, int, CSerActionUnserialize)'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [huntercoind] Error 1

I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 64bit & my make syntax is:

make -f Makefile clean; make -f Makefile USE_UPNP=1

I get the same error if I try to compile without upnp also......

Hope you can help me out - would love to get into this coin  Smiley

Thanks.

Anyone?  Smiley

Did you try PM'ing Domob?

I'd PM Domob if I was you.

Also f72cfa043daade216750d9e260cd3a299548dd52829c3703af36da08c802fac2 (thanks Domob)

I already asked, he's unsure what it could be atm

legendary
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Greets guys,

Having some difficulties compiling the daemon here. I want to add HUC to my p2pool node and have already compiled 5 other wallet daemons - including NMC - without issues, so I know it's not a dependency thing. Here's a copy of the error I keep getting:

obj/db.o: In function `void CDiskBlockIndex::Unserialize(CDataStream&, int, int)':
db.cpp:(.text._ZN15CDiskBlockIndex11UnserializeI11CDataStreamEEvRT_ii[_ZN15CDiskBlockIndex11UnserializeI11CDataStreamEEvRT_ii]+0x175): undefined reference to `int ReadWriteAuxPow(CDataStream&, boost::shared_ptr&, int, int, CSerActionUnserialize)'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [huntercoind] Error 1

I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 64bit & my make syntax is:

make -f Makefile clean; make -f Makefile USE_UPNP=1

I get the same error if I try to compile without upnp also......

Hope you can help me out - would love to get into this coin  Smiley

Thanks.

Anyone?  Smiley

Did you try PM'ing Domob?

I'd PM Domob if I was you.

Also f72cfa043daade216750d9e260cd3a299548dd52829c3703af36da08c802fac2 (thanks Domob)
sr. member
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Ok, I admit I had not thought of what I guess is obvious. The fact that if a player COSTS 20 HUC, it will DROP about that many when killed! So if it balances out the same as now, I suppose it would actually work as intended, even for us little guys. Right now I spend about 10 HUC every day on new players. If I can make back at least 15-20 coins each day, I am if not happy, at least content. So if BOTH those numbers went up, I guess it wouldn't be that different? Spend around 200, but able to make 300+? Or am I missing something still?  Cool
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Muniti creator
Greets guys,

Having some difficulties compiling the daemon here. I want to add HUC to my p2pool node and have already compiled 5 other wallet daemons - including NMC - without issues, so I know it's not a dependency thing. Here's a copy of the error I keep getting:

obj/db.o: In function `void CDiskBlockIndex::Unserialize(CDataStream&, int, int)':
db.cpp:(.text._ZN15CDiskBlockIndex11UnserializeI11CDataStreamEEvRT_ii[_ZN15CDiskBlockIndex11UnserializeI11CDataStreamEEvRT_ii]+0x175): undefined reference to `int ReadWriteAuxPow(CDataStream&, boost::shared_ptr&, int, int, CSerActionUnserialize)'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [huntercoind] Error 1

I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 64bit & my make syntax is:

make -f Makefile clean; make -f Makefile USE_UPNP=1

I get the same error if I try to compile without upnp also......

Hope you can help me out - would love to get into this coin  Smiley

Thanks.

Anyone?  Smiley

Did you try PM'ing Domob?
sr. member
Activity: 379
Merit: 250
Welcome to dogietalk.bs
Greets guys,

Having some difficulties compiling the daemon here. I want to add HUC to my p2pool node and have already compiled 5 other wallet daemons - including NMC - without issues, so I know it's not a dependency thing. Here's a copy of the error I keep getting:

obj/db.o: In function `void CDiskBlockIndex::Unserialize(CDataStream&, int, int)':
db.cpp:(.text._ZN15CDiskBlockIndex11UnserializeI11CDataStreamEEvRT_ii[_ZN15CDiskBlockIndex11UnserializeI11CDataStreamEEvRT_ii]+0x175): undefined reference to `int ReadWriteAuxPow(CDataStream&, boost::shared_ptr&, int, int, CSerActionUnserialize)'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [huntercoind] Error 1

I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 64bit & my make syntax is:

make -f Makefile clean; make -f Makefile USE_UPNP=1

I get the same error if I try to compile without upnp also......

Hope you can help me out - would love to get into this coin  Smiley

Thanks.

Anyone?  Smiley
legendary
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not sure why you would play less, but I think i'd play more if there was a fraction the amount of people on the map, each general u kill will give 20 coins.. atm, it's not safe to go into the central areas.. Also, i think your client will be the ultimate tool for the change

I have been hitting the center area for 24 hours and it has opened up. I won't be able to hold it for over the weekend... so now is the time to get some center coins if you want them...

I thought i saw something going on Smiley gj
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not sure why you would play less, but I think i'd play more if there was a fraction the amount of people on the map, each general u kill will give 20 coins.. atm, it's not safe to go into the central areas.. Also, i think your client will be the ultimate tool for the change

I have been hitting the center area for 24 hours and it has opened up. I won't be able to hold it for over the weekend... so now is the time to get some center coins if you want them...
legendary
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when i talk about increasing huc value and pump & dump mentality, i don't say that to you, but i reply to a general mood i've sniffed in this thread where people complain, rightly, about their (at the moment) failed investment and what i wanted to state is that for the good of the game, it's better to think in long term then in short term, it's a matter of trust for players.
perhaps my english didn't helped me and i haven't understood

np, yes i agree



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People with big money can over take map

? they can now and have

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1. moreover, now someone could invest in hucs since its value is so low, then use bought hucs to overtake the map when hucs value will increase, causing a game over.

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They can do this now, exactly the same except with no risk at all. Disaster adds random risk, increasing cost increases risk more.


so you are admitting that the planned change would not change this aspect
this is what i wanted to point out, some changes maybe don't give benefit respect current state


in anything related to money, those with the most can have the most.. when mining bitcoin, those with the most money can buy the biggest rigs.
but - what the change does, is limit those by making the game only profitable with a limited amount of generals.
Atm, they can have infinite hunters with almost zero risk.
with the change, (increase in price), they need to loot as many coins as the cost of the generals (see table for "sort of an idea").
Together with random disaster, there is only a finite amount of generals that can be used on the map without actually losing money - a risk.
What limits humans in the game now vs bots, is humans can only control X amount of generals, bots can control many. The change maybe/should limit slightly how many humans can control -- (not much, because it was limited by the human mind/ and interface)... yet, the change should limit the amount of generals bot masters can control considerably.


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here comes the main different point of view we have.
I think that this is a game, that has a benefit of giving you a chance to earn money.
This is not a job or something more then a game because at the moment huntercoin isn't useful except to play and trade, because there are no service available in hucs, no goods bound to it, etc... so, at the moment, this is just a game and an innovative (technologically speaking) cryptocurrency.

considered this, supposing huc value = 0.0001, comparing to current btc  (price is so low actually and very unpredictable that would be easy to jump in no time to higher values) this mean that to play with 20 hunters on the map, you spend (in $) ~ 57$ (and consider even that new players are noobs about the game and could loose easily all in no time, so you will not have that user back) and i think that not much players could afford that, and if you narrow the catchment area the coin value decrease to the bottom.

If you talk about fair distribution, you have to think to "poor players" too.

yep, all the things like purchasing goods with hucs etc will come, but only after the game is being played (properly).
Originally the game was supposed to be cheap as possible to play, and it still will be - for now.. if it' becomes very expensive, we can lower the cost. Domob has made a change that should allow tweaking of general costs much easier in future.

Consider at the start, the value went to 2.7$/HUC .. people were playing.

the problem is, if the cost is too cheap then the map will be overrun. If the cost is cheaper, we need disaster/expiry to happen much more often.


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4 if an hunter costs so much and without a safe area, a casual player will easily lost it's hunters when he log off, while bots could survive easily

?? if there isn't a safe area, bots will die as well, whether playing or not.


sure... but while an human disconnected hunter stand still, a bot could easily move away from enemies...

yep, but is not much can do at this time (domob has 50 A4 sheets of paper to go through for huntercon yet lol).. at least they keep spending fees Smiley
they won't be able to avoid disaster though


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If the value of huc was 1 BTC, i think Huntercoin would be extremely popular.

as i already said, i don't think so and this goes against a fair distribution, except if a general at that point costs a fraction of 1 huc of course

That's just the way it is.. at the start of any crypto (PoW), it's normally easy at the start and harder later on.
It would be great if there was some way of distributing coins all the time to the poor people (like me and you Cheesy )... i think huntercoin is sort of the closest we can get to that though. In the original chronokings thread, i state that expensive hardware isn't required to mine it.. it still won't be, but it will have to cost something.

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i agree that no one knows the future, but i know that, personally, with current rates I'll play less, even because i think that major problem now aren't bot (that i can handle pretty easily with my client) but blockchain size/speed, because new players can't join and if the game isn't accessible by many players, you can do any changes you want in mechanics, but you'll keep to have few players (of course this is my thought)

having said that, I respect choices you'll take, but i keep my doubt, in the hope that they are dispelled Smiley

i think main problem is bots controlling 80% of the spice flow... also blockchain etc - everything being worked on from multiple angles.

not sure why you would play less, but I think i'd play more if there was a fraction the amount of people on the map, each general u kill will give 20 coins.. atm, it's not safe to go into the central areas.. Also, i think your client will be the ultimate tool for the change


note: seems the bots are tidying / packing up? maybe they are giving in.

Extra: as pointed out by someone -  after the minimum 3 days are up (after the last disaster), anyone who creates a general after that point is at risk of randomly dying, the map may actually become more scarce - more coins on the map, but higher risk to get them.. i think this will help.

I'm also wondering if the minimum of 3 days after a disaster should be reduced to 1 day.

p.s. personally, i think it should be 50HUCs per general Cheesy, but 20 may be a start and so there isn't a rebellion on the streets Smiley
If it's too much we'll adjust.
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Poloniex is experiencing withdraw problems.

Do not withdraw right now.

I'll update

Update: withdrawals are working now, at least they worked for me but Angela from Poloniex had to reset a pending withdrawal I had
legendary
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Poloniex is experiencing withdraw problems.

Do not withdraw right now.

I'll update

Update:

Good to rock out with your cock out.
legendary
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Great to see our coders engaging in constructive criticism and suggestions!

In the meantime - Poloniex seem to have some problems with their HUC wallet according to what I'm seeing on their chatting system, something to do with syncing as usual. The day when HUC will have a much lighter blockchain to handle will be a very happy day indeed  Smiley

yes,this is great..

although not about Polo Smiley
i've emailed him and try to find out what the issue is.
(both my windows and linux clients are still working atm) - and explorer http://huc.explorer.dot-bit.org/
may be something their end

will reply to mithrilman later (when i read properly).. need to think hard in case he shoots me down :d
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