Topic: [ANN][HUC] Huntercoin - Worlds First Decentralized Game/World on the Blockchain - page 76. (Read 879551 times)

We must pray to the crypto gods

ah this is cool, so you can have your invested coin in the hunter, bank if you arrive in one of those bank area? and the hunter disappear or what? you need then to create another by spending 200 again?

funny, hoping that a disaster didn't happens
(i mean ingame disaster of course, that would reset the map!)

Huntercoin's going to be participating in CoinFest 2016. A prize of 30K HUC (currently worth ~.5 BTC) will be given to the Hunter who remains alive the longest during April 5-10. In the event of a tie, the prize-money will be split, so you're going to want to kill your opponents.  

We're going to set it up on a laptop at CoinFest Vancouver, both to play and to show it off to the crowd. Feel free to go show it off at a Meet Up of your own, and let us know if you're willing to contribute some coins to another prize challenge.

yep i agree.

When using multiple hunters it actually is complex. Have 2 hunters of the same color vs 3 with the remaining 3 colors an advantage in an enclosed space like the center? I'd prefer to fight with the two. (but it's slow and difficult to get 2 to same spot, and everyone will see it coming)

Yes


You got that "assign" wrong. No transaction is generated, and no one is managed.

If you want to play a game you have to invent rules, this cannot be helped. Like "Race me, the first to touch that tree wins".

The patched client passively watches and determines who would win something according to the rules (its source code is the rule, per definition).
It does not communicate the results. Only human players communicate by sending valid Huntercoin transactions.

In a way this is similar to what Mastercoin (which would be much cooler if implemented in the Bitcoin-qt wallet) is doing on the Bitcoin blockchain, only the extra information make more sense visually. The inventory items are the Masterhuntercoins.

i'm syncing from scratch atm in yosemite - working so far and seems fine.

of course i can't thoroughly guarantee security but i'd use it (i trust maxpower didn't put anything malicious in there if that's worrying)

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i've just tested the latest unity3d client on mac and seems to work fine also.. (i built this myself within unity3d but didn't have the hardware to test at the time)

if you bank your hunter you will get 200 hucs back + any coins you looted on the ground or in acquired in pvp.

to be in profit you just need to loot more than 5 coins with each hunter and bank (and don't get killed).

I think there is a link to wiggi's compiled client in one of the readme's

1 was just an example, let's say i have 10 of them, can i pay for their cost in an useful time frame?

btw there is no release for wiggi client?

with 1 character you are going to struggle making any coins, together with being new, not a good combo.

You should maybe expect to lose some coins while practicing and learning the game.
You should also use Mithrilman Client or Unity3d Client or Wiggi's Better Qt otherwise you will be at a serious disadvantage.

moving costs fractions of a huntercoin each time, Destruct (attack) currently costs 20 hucs (this will change when we implement things like spell timers).

it also costs 205 to create a hunter in total

so 1 hunter cost me 200, how much he need to pay for itself, if he is not killed?

are the coins easy to bring back to the bank? the travel on average is long?

Depends how many you control and how good you are.
if you completely dominated the map the max is 13k a day.

I've just been playing for an hour (at work so on and off) and made 600coins in pvp.. the loot i collected just pays for the destructs i used.

combat mechanics are not great so winning in pvp is usually due to the enemy making a mistake or having blocks solved faster than normal or them being afk

(next updates will be concentrating on combat mechanics)

i mean how many coin per day 1 player can do, by playing let's say 8 hours?

imagine like this:

you have huntercoin as it is now but you also allow to create characters with a {world=0} value.
This means your character does not appear in the huntercoin world and it lasts forever.
you can still change it's values just like in namecoin (and huntercoin).

an external gamestate calculates the gamestate based on characters whos world=0
in this gamestate it can be a completely different game and you can pickup coins items or whatever.

how much coins you have is all calculated in the gamestate.. but you can't obviously print huntercoins, it would be a new currency(or multiple like gold, silver bronze).
just a full game of anything you want on the back huntercoin

Everyone will calcualte the gamestate exactly if everyone is using the exact same "laws" and "rules". If someone is interpreting the game state differently, then my gamestate won't agree so they will be in alternative reality (fork)

posted further up

hi,

you just wouldn't be able to use "huntercoins" themselves. It would have to be another virtual crypto within the crypto (same as wiggi's gems)
Huntercoins would be used to create your name of course (not mega dissimilar to how coins are made on top of bitcoin)

as long as your huntercoin name isn't created in the huntercoin gamestate (i.e. allow to create names in huntercoin which are just like namecoin names and are not in huntercoin world) then you can have your own external gamestate.

frankly i don't understand how can this works, if anyone can interpret the same transaction in different ways and for one a player is alive and another is not

The reward logic (so coin transfer because of game actions, like i kill someone and i get 200 huc) must be handled by nodes that must validate each game transaction and then generate the coin transfer accordlying, so this must be right into the node validation rules

I understand that you can create a name and change some of its attribute and then having a custom daemon that parse the custom rules and apply custom game state, but this is ok as long as it impact visually like applying a custom skin on your hunters, that you may be the only one to see or that other with same daemon logic can apply but that anyway doesn't impact on the game rules, but if you want to have a different kind of game, you can only create custom games if they are just visual games without rewards, because if you create e.g. a chess game where who win pay something to the opponent, only the loser can send the money, so he can just prevent that and voilat, faked game.

Or you can have a centralized server that handle all the reward transaction, if players transfer funds to it before playing, but this would not be a decentralized game of course (and this is what i wanted to do to implement my Contests)

Am i missing something?

yeah, by playing, how many per day?

yes, with different gamestates you could have entirely different games that don't interfere at all.
or other use cases.. pretty much anything can be done that any other crypto can do i'd assume..

we'd at least maybe need to add an extra value to created names (characters) if there are multiple game states like - world=1 for original huntercoin... any other options makes your "name/character" behave just like a namecoin name then you could play in any world you wish depending on which client you use (i.e. doesn't die with disaster or appear in huntercoin world/gamestate).

Outputting huntercoins from the othe gameworlds could/would get complicated if we wanted to keep the same supply of coins.. (unless we go the wiggi's gems route and don't output huntercoins)

you could use namecoin (easier) or other cryptos to

the gamestate-calcs doesn't need to be in the client?
e.g.

Make a name in namecoin called "game/snailbrain"
interface with namecoin via rpc to modify your character (move etc).
All Agree on the game rules (hardest part, but also hardest part of huntercoin)
use an external website (or 3rd party client) which has the "game rules" (calculates gamestate) built in, to interface with namecoin.
play..

coins collected in the external gamestate won't be namescoins (can't output) but a new crypto currency (like wiggi's gems)... to transfer the newcurrency just have an agreed namecoin value command like :
name_update game/snailbrain {"send":500,"recip":"Bob"}

the external "gamestate/software" that everyone agrees on will "read this" and other commands like attacks or special moves..

it's still decentralized? (ish).
anyone can calculate the game state exactly if they all use the same "game rules"

If your character dies in the alt game, he will only be dead virtually in that gamestate but his namecoin name will still exist. He probably just starts again in the game world (teleports to start of map).

would be better just allowing standard names in huntercoin to boost it, as well as that blocks are 1 minute as opposed to namecoins 10 minutes.

just using crypto as a p2p game engine/server without the gamestate (nodes don't need calculate millions of different states), and without printing the main cryptos coins

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you could have the gamestate calculated in the huntercoin daemon as well (for the extra game states) in a modular fashion, this way an exchange could just add modules to add the different currencies that are using the huntercoin p2p-game-network?