Buying or selling right now is hard - there just isn't the liquidity. Small orders push the price around a lot.
When we start integrating merchants, we'll be doing some marketmaking to buffer those movements a bit.
Topic: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex - page 84. (Read 491331 times)
February 15, 2017, 06:47:43 AM
February 15, 2017, 06:42:00 AM
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I think it doesn't make sense now to participate in any ICO again if you can get it at 50% below the ICO price. I have notice this trend since the second part of last year, ICONOMI, SNGLs, Firstblood, Antshares, Darcrus, Incent and more
Huh?I think it doesn't make sense now to participate in any ICO again if you can get it at 50% below the ICO price. I have notice this trend since the second part of last year, ICONOMI, SNGLs, Firstblood, Antshares, Darcrus, Incent and more
3203.20412874 0.14222226
0.49 I invested in BTC ico, now the value is 0.14
I think it was because of the distribution in the campaign.
This is a bad situation for early investors.
February 15, 2017, 06:37:25 AM
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I think it doesn't make sense now to participate in any ICO again if you can get it at 50% below the ICO price. I have notice this trend since the second part of last year, ICONOMI, SNGLs, Firstblood, Antshares, Darcrus, Incent and more
Huh? I think it doesn't make sense now to participate in any ICO again if you can get it at 50% below the ICO price. I have notice this trend since the second part of last year, ICONOMI, SNGLs, Firstblood, Antshares, Darcrus, Incent and more
February 15, 2017, 05:41:13 AM
It is pleasant update to see INCNT at liqui but who are these people those with selling at around 6000 satoshi with selling orders because its ICO price was approximated 17000 satoshi. This is only thing which is bothering me at the moment. Why someone will want to sell with loss. We need buy support from Incent team to lift the price up.
Those people slowly accumulate more Incent from the dumpers.Do you know incent price will boom after big whales accumulate enough incnt.This token is for future.people who underestimate incent surly regret later.Happy to see INCNT on liqui.
I think it doesn't make sense now to participate in any ICO again if you can get it at 50% below the ICO price. I have notice this trend since the second part of last year, ICONOMI, SNGLs, Firstblood, Antshares, Darcrus, Incent and more
February 15, 2017, 04:34:57 AM
It is pleasant update to see INCNT at liqui but who are these people those with selling at around 6000 satoshi with selling orders because its ICO price was approximated 17000 satoshi. This is only thing which is bothering me at the moment. Why someone will want to sell with loss. We need buy support from Incent team to lift the price up.
Those people slowly accumulate more Incent from the dumpers.Do you know incent price will boom after big whales accumulate enough incnt.This token is for future.people who underestimate incent surly regret later.Happy to see INCNT on liqui.
I will choose still crytopia rather than liqui. The volume on liqui is small compared to crytopia. And a lot of dumpers out there. Even VSL dump hard on that exchange. I hope they listed on trex since waves are already listed there
Maybe you interested in to trade Incent at https://tidex.com/#/exchange/INCNT_BTC
but the volume is small too.
February 15, 2017, 04:22:18 AM
In Russian topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1628379.960 there is a growing public dissatisfaction, about price very low..
it wouldn't be bad to reach ico price sometimes at least
it wouldn't be bad to reach ico price sometimes at least
There was an unpleasant incident last night when someone came onto our Slack and tried to blackmail us into supporting the price on different exchanges. The gist was that if we didn't start buying tokens to increase the price, he and his mates would create a thread on bitcointalk and denounce Incent as a scam, ruining our reputation. Naturally we told him where to go. We also took screenshots, which make it very clear what's going on should we need to. (In practice, I doubt it would make much difference, since the businesses we're talking to don't routinely come to bitcointalk for information.)
We'd all like to see a higher price, but that will come with merchant adoption and we're simply not prepared to use the BTC we collected for marketing and development of Incent to manipulate it, at the expense of the long-term success of the project. That's not what we held the ICO for and it would be unethical and possibly borderline criminal to do that.
A final cross-post from Rob on Slack:
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Okay @bitcointalkdtm: I have allowed this to run far enough. My position is that we have been upfront, honest and clear with our community. My team have confirmed that we are not, as an entity, active on either side of the market. As proof of this we have made the location of our reserve public so that it can be audited by the community. Conversely, what I can understand of your invective is ill-informed, destructive and inflammatory. You seem hell bent on attacking our project and while I do not understand why, I don't have to witness it on our community slack. Goodbye.
February 14, 2017, 09:47:37 PM
It is pleasant update to see INCNT at liqui but who are these people those with selling at around 6000 satoshi with selling orders because its ICO price was approximated 17000 satoshi. This is only thing which is bothering me at the moment. Why someone will want to sell with loss. We need buy support from Incent team to lift the price up.
I totally agree with you that the team need to help with the price and set up buy order, it seems the team just need the money take it and run and wait for the tokens to die. I don't think is the bounty hunters that is killing the price
I doubt the team is the one manipulating the price, there should be away to see the total Incent tokens on the blockchain, if there is anything like that people would have notice and would kill the reputation of the team and even affect Waves project
It is impossible for the TEAM to dump their coin, They put so much effort just to develop this project and they are not wasting their effort just for penny, i believe the dump is from investor that want to get back their invested money even for low amount, To prove my statement, Check the slack of incent and you will see a lot of complaining about price and exchange, this is the best opportunity for them to dump because there is a good exchange now for incent
February 14, 2017, 07:23:14 PM
In Russian topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1628379.960 there is a growing public dissatisfaction, about price very low..
it wouldn't be bad to reach ico price sometimes at least
it wouldn't be bad to reach ico price sometimes at least
February 14, 2017, 06:01:50 PM
It is pleasant update to see INCNT at liqui but who are these people those with selling at around 6000 satoshi with selling orders because its ICO price was approximated 17000 satoshi. This is only thing which is bothering me at the moment. Why someone will want to sell with loss. We need buy support from Incent team to lift the price up.
Those people slowly accumulate more Incent from the dumpers.Do you know incent price will boom after big whales accumulate enough incnt.This token is for future.people who underestimate incent surly regret later.Happy to see INCNT on liqui.
I will choose still crytopia rather than liqui. The volume on liqui is small compared to crytopia. And a lot of dumpers out there. Even VSL dump hard on that exchange. I hope they listed on trex since waves are already listed there
February 14, 2017, 06:01:33 PM
price still low, lower than the price ico
it's menggemaskan made greget
it's menggemaskan made greget
February 14, 2017, 05:49:10 PM
It is pleasant update to see INCNT at liqui but who are these people those with selling at around 6000 satoshi with selling orders because its ICO price was approximated 17000 satoshi. This is only thing which is bothering me at the moment. Why someone will want to sell with loss. We need buy support from Incent team to lift the price up.
Those people slowly accumulate more Incent from the dumpers.Do you know incent price will boom after big whales accumulate enough incnt.This token is for future.people who underestimate incent surly regret later.Happy to see INCNT on liqui.
February 14, 2017, 05:30:45 PM
I have meesage for you guys https://liqui.io/#/exchange/INCNT_BTC
Thanks for sharing. It has been posted on the last page already, though 
INCNT on Liqui.io
Conggratulation dev, i want to buy incent that's verry cheap now
February 14, 2017, 05:18:17 PM
No, we are not manipulating the price; neither are we selling nor buying tokens. The collected Bitcoins serve only two purposes: To cover on-going expenses and for market making.
In this spreadsheet you can find all our Waves addresses including balances as of 14.02.2017. Feel free to check all our addresses with the Waves block explorer www.wavesgo.com.
Last but not least, a cross post from Slack:
In this spreadsheet you can find all our Waves addresses including balances as of 14.02.2017. Feel free to check all our addresses with the Waves block explorer www.wavesgo.com.
Last but not least, a cross post from Slack:
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karlkarlsson [10:50 PM]
Finally home. Starting at your first post. Last news were roughly 3 weeks ago (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17585211), next update will come within the next 1-2 weeks. In the sense of open value we are always as transparent as circumstances allow us to be. I am sure most community members will agree with me on that.
Secondly, I think we have a very different definiton of 'scam'. Basically, a scam is when a person takes money and runs away. Yes, we accepted money from you but neither to run away nor to manipulate the price. We do what we promised to our investors we will do: Build the Incent application (ETA end of Q1/beginning of Q2) and implement it with merchant #1. Following that we are going to integrate it with more merchants - this will be way easier due to the gained experience with merchant #1. Parallel to that we will develop easy-to-integrate merchant software so that, at one point, interested businesses will be able to connect to the loyalty program themselves without any assistance from our side. That's when the whole project will start picking up speed. Side note: I talked about Incent to a lot of 'average joes' in the last weeks. Right after explaining the open value vs. closed value proposition every person wanted to use exactly what we are building.
Back to manipulating the price: If we set buy walls, we are doing exactly that. It's not a free market anymore which is one of the core principles of crypto currencies as a whole. By the way, price manipulation at 'common' stock exchanges is illegal, will be prosecuted and fined.
To the price: The majority of funds, off the top of my head around 70%, was invested during the first bonus stage. Investors received 10k Incent per Bitcoin or paid 0.0001 Bitcoin per Incent. At the time of writing this means -50% (CMC avg. 0.00005 BTC), not 1/4 of it. Moreover, we always stated Incent is a mid- to long-term project and that the first customer integration will happen earliest end of Q1; again, we were as transparent as possible and communicated accordingly. You know what's best? We still managed to integrate Incent in a market-ready product: our own ICO technology. See is as merchant #0. We already finished a first ICO, created a revenue stream for Incent itself and 'produced' real merchant demand of ca. $800.
Finally home. Starting at your first post. Last news were roughly 3 weeks ago (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17585211), next update will come within the next 1-2 weeks. In the sense of open value we are always as transparent as circumstances allow us to be. I am sure most community members will agree with me on that.
Secondly, I think we have a very different definiton of 'scam'. Basically, a scam is when a person takes money and runs away. Yes, we accepted money from you but neither to run away nor to manipulate the price. We do what we promised to our investors we will do: Build the Incent application (ETA end of Q1/beginning of Q2) and implement it with merchant #1. Following that we are going to integrate it with more merchants - this will be way easier due to the gained experience with merchant #1. Parallel to that we will develop easy-to-integrate merchant software so that, at one point, interested businesses will be able to connect to the loyalty program themselves without any assistance from our side. That's when the whole project will start picking up speed. Side note: I talked about Incent to a lot of 'average joes' in the last weeks. Right after explaining the open value vs. closed value proposition every person wanted to use exactly what we are building.
Back to manipulating the price: If we set buy walls, we are doing exactly that. It's not a free market anymore which is one of the core principles of crypto currencies as a whole. By the way, price manipulation at 'common' stock exchanges is illegal, will be prosecuted and fined.
To the price: The majority of funds, off the top of my head around 70%, was invested during the first bonus stage. Investors received 10k Incent per Bitcoin or paid 0.0001 Bitcoin per Incent. At the time of writing this means -50% (CMC avg. 0.00005 BTC), not 1/4 of it. Moreover, we always stated Incent is a mid- to long-term project and that the first customer integration will happen earliest end of Q1; again, we were as transparent as possible and communicated accordingly. You know what's best? We still managed to integrate Incent in a market-ready product: our own ICO technology. See is as merchant #0. We already finished a first ICO, created a revenue stream for Incent itself and 'produced' real merchant demand of ca. $800.
February 14, 2017, 03:08:11 PM
It is pleasant update to see INCNT at liqui but who are these people those with selling at around 6000 satoshi with selling orders because its ICO price was approximated 17000 satoshi. This is only thing which is bothering me at the moment. Why someone will want to sell with loss. We need buy support from Incent team to lift the price up.
I totally agree with you that the team need to help with the price and set up buy order, it seems the team just need the money take it and run and wait for the tokens to die. I don't think is the bounty hunters that is killing the price
It's also not the time of FUD when we are 1.5 months away from the expected roll-out, as it is planned at the moment.
Is there a report onhow many INCENT were sold in ICO? Also those unsold tokens, is there an address where they are locked away? To verify no movement of funds on that address.
46 million. 23 million are the Reserve that we will use for prompt settlement, as detailed at ICO and numerous times since.
I'll ask and dig out the escrow address for the Reserve but I'll tell you now, that's not where the selling is coming from.
February 14, 2017, 03:03:45 PM
It is pleasant update to see INCNT at liqui but who are these people those with selling at around 6000 satoshi with selling orders because its ICO price was approximated 17000 satoshi. This is only thing which is bothering me at the moment. Why someone will want to sell with loss. We need buy support from Incent team to lift the price up.
I totally agree with you that the team need to help with the price and set up buy order, it seems the team just need the money take it and run and wait for the tokens to die. I don't think is the bounty hunters that is killing the price
Are you really suggesting that we take the funds that investors deposited at ICO for development, and use them to buy tokens back from people who decide - of their own free will - to sell at whatever price they want? That would, of course, be incredibly irresponsible of us.
We've always been clear about the schedule. Development is on track. No way are we burning funds because a few people are impatient. Sorry, if that was what you wanted you should have gone for a traditional P&D coin.
February 14, 2017, 03:00:54 PM
It is pleasant update to see INCNT at liqui but who are these people those with selling at around 6000 satoshi with selling orders because its ICO price was approximated 17000 satoshi. This is only thing which is bothering me at the moment. Why someone will want to sell with loss. We need buy support from Incent team to lift the price up.
I totally agree with you that the team need to help with the price and set up buy order, it seems the team just need the money take it and run and wait for the tokens to die. I don't think is the bounty hunters that is killing the price
It's also not the time of FUD when we are 1.5 months away from the expected roll-out, as it is planned at the moment.
Is there a report onhow many INCENT were sold in ICO? Also those unsold tokens, is there an address where they are locked away? To verify no movement of funds on that address.
February 14, 2017, 02:57:41 PM
It is pleasant update to see INCNT at liqui but who are these people those with selling at around 6000 satoshi with selling orders because its ICO price was approximated 17000 satoshi. This is only thing which is bothering me at the moment. Why someone will want to sell with loss. We need buy support from Incent team to lift the price up.
I totally agree with you that the team need to help with the price and set up buy order, it seems the team just need the money take it and run and wait for the tokens to die. I don't think is the bounty hunters that is killing the price
I doubt the team is the one manipulating the price, there should be away to see the total Incent tokens on the blockchain, if there is anything like that people would have notice and would kill the reputation of the team and even affect Waves project
February 14, 2017, 02:35:18 PM
It is pleasant update to see INCNT at liqui but who are these people those with selling at around 6000 satoshi with selling orders because its ICO price was approximated 17000 satoshi. This is only thing which is bothering me at the moment. Why someone will want to sell with loss. We need buy support from Incent team to lift the price up.
I totally agree with you that the team need to help with the price and set up buy order, it seems the team just need the money take it and run and wait for the tokens to die. I don't think is the bounty hunters that is killing the price
It's also not the time of FUD when we are 1.5 months away from the expected roll-out, as it is planned at the moment.
February 14, 2017, 02:31:41 PM
It is pleasant update to see INCNT at liqui but who are these people those with selling at around 6000 satoshi with selling orders because its ICO price was approximated 17000 satoshi. This is only thing which is bothering me at the moment. Why someone will want to sell with loss. We need buy support from Incent team to lift the price up.
I totally agree with you that the team need to help with the price and set up buy order, it seems the team just need the money take it and run and wait for the tokens to die. I don't think is the bounty hunters that is killing the price
February 14, 2017, 02:13:12 PM
It is pleasant update to see INCNT at liqui but who are these people those with selling at around 6000 satoshi with selling orders because its ICO price was approximated 17000 satoshi. This is only thing which is bothering me at the moment. Why someone will want to sell with loss. We need buy support from Incent team to lift the price up.
I think many people are calculating with Fiat, and BTC price was lower at ICO, could that be? Jump to: