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hero member
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September 12, 2014, 01:16:57 AM
I would later invite you by name to trello.

In trello we would place all willing Karma member in a group where they may share their best ability or interest.

In that group admins can post, lists of TODO's and you can be invited to be involved in accomplishing them.

You can browse all activities of all groups if you request.

No one is too poor to have nothing to share, and too rich to have no need of anything else.

Let us review Karma's principle and remember what it is exactly that attracted you in this community.

"Karma is a digital currency that is designed to reward good in people, to encourage people to do good. It can be used in place of the "like" button, unlike that "like" button, Karma is usable."
 
Therefore, Karma is a digital money that we can, spread online to all our friends and love ones. Like them in your social media, by giving them Karma, reward them for making you smile with their latest photo post, or for reminding you of that special memory by their thoughtful quotes they posted, or the joy of seeing a funny video. Reward them with Karma. If they ask what is that? Tell them it is a digital money. In this way we realize the mission of Karma, rewarding the good in people.


How would you give Karma if they are not in a tipping enabled group??

-make a new wallet (save your old wallet.dat somewhere else by CUTTING and PASTING it in a new back up folder)
-Open Karma wallet (it will create new wallet.dat)
-copy the address created inside the wallet, paste it in a notepad
-close the wallet
-rename the new wallet.dat to your friend's name
-cut and paste the renamed friends wallet to the back up folder
-copy and paste your original wallet.dat to Karma folder
-open your wallet again, (your old wallet should show correctly)
-send the amount you would like to gve to your friend to the address you pasted on the notepad.
-wait till at least ONE confirmation is done to your transaction of sending
-close your wallet
-CUT and PASTE again the wallet.dat from your Karma folder
-copy your friends named wallet.dat to Karma folder
-rename that to wallet.dat
-make a ZIP of the entire Karma folder, of course making sure that your original wallet.dat is not inside that ZIP Smiley
-send that ZIP file to your friend
-teach him how to open a zip file you sent him.
-Enjoy a new karma brother!

This is actually easy after you understood how to do it.

Using a second PC with internet connection will make this easier! Install new wallet and send some Karma to that wallet, zip and send!


hero member
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Creator of the ICO
September 12, 2014, 12:44:07 AM
It's really nice to see more of us here step up with solutions in this "crisis mode".

One could almost say that a kick in the pants is exactly what Karma needed, but of course we're not there yet. And it's nice to see all these new faces.

But, controversially I suppose, I think the most important thing we can do now is making our target market the primary focus rather than the kind of market found right here on the bitcointalk forums.

It continues to amaze me that we think we can prosper without a target market and without a focus on that market.

We have a product without a focus on who that product is for, and why they need it. No operation can survive like this.

We need to re-think what we spend time focusing on. (Not "later" when we have developed more services. That is a ridiculous notion.)

If we had a forum where only Karma miners were invited, they would want Karma to go in one direction.

If we had a forum where only those who got Karma with BTC or LTC were invited, they would want Karma to go in another direction.

If we had a forum where only those who got Karma by tips were invited, they would want Karma to go in another direction.

But we have all of these opinions right here, and I am 100% sure that we should only be listening to our target market's needs.

Unfortunately, they are not invited because we don't want them to participate. (This could easily be done, and should be obvious to anyone who knows about business, which is why I say we don't collectively want to have them participate.)

Having a conversation with your potential customers is essential. But somehow we don't see the need here. We make lame excuses why it can't be done, or should not be done now.

Perhaps in 6-12 months we will find out that we have been wasting a tremendous amount of time not focusing on the people that need something like Karma.

The best thing for the "new leadership" or revived team to do is simply ignore ~98% of the posts in these threads and forge ahead with what is truly important (actual users and their needs).

If we continue along the same path, doing the same things as other coins, Karma will probably die (as most of them tend to do because they do not do the above).

We have MBAs here whose opinions on this seem to be biased by them thinking of Karma like any other cryptocurrency, or perhaps biased by their own investment and their inherent need to see a gain they did not themselves realize with Bitcoin. (Again, most coins fail within 3 weeks. And most of the remaining will be dead in a year or less.)

The community that Karma needs to really push Karma forward is not here. That is why the 'leaders' of Karma should not be people involved in crypto but people like myself who know how business should be done.

-Most coins fail. Why follow them?
-Why try to make Karma like other coins?
-Karma is a business (one with heart). Why listen to people with no business experience?
-Crypto devs don't usually have business experience. Is there a wonder why nearly all of them fail?

What Karma needs are 2-3 experienced business leaders with a heart. Without concern for lining their own pockets with crypto profits. Crypto devs and those highly involved in the crypto world will most likely lead Karma nowhere.

We should do what has worked for other businesses for hundreds of years, because that is essentially what Karma is. You can then have an operation with a heart, like many do.
legendary
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Well, That's Crypto :-\
September 12, 2014, 12:20:58 AM
wow, I haven't checked this thread in a couple months  Cry a lot has changed.
I'm hoping my measly 4.5M Karma will regain some of their value.
hero member
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Creator of the ICO
September 12, 2014, 12:09:15 AM
BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT/KARMA DISTRIBUTION GROUP LEADERS/SPEAKERS
This is one of the most important group, the source of all karma income that will ensure the success of Karma, Only the best should be the leaders here.
kosmost  (DECLINED TOO BAD HE IS MY CHOICE HERE TOO)        
Chargin        MY CHOICE
LittleDuke     MY CHOICE
cryptowho

HUMAN RESOURCES/BUDGET SPEAKERS/LEADERS WE NEED TWO
This group will handle the identification of future human resource for karma needs. This will also handle the release of funds for Karma projects, once all signatories have agreed in writing.
Only the trustworthy are worthy here.


Chargin           MY CHOICE
karmakaguy
Bierwors
Alphi
p4r4m0unt       MY CHOICE

Thanks for calling me one of "the best" and "trustworthy". Tongue

However I believe tasks should be allocated not roles. If somebody steps up to do a task then they can do it. Only one of the things you listed is a task, the coordinator position, as he keeps track of who is working on what tasks.

Chargin.

I think the likely challenge with that is no one being responsible for any 1 kind of task.

We can easily test that now by offering a couple of example (but real) tasks that need to be performed now and see who will volunteer. We then take the result and assume that the reality would be half that (as people know that it is an example to test their resolve).
hero member
Activity: 1022
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Creator of the ICO
September 12, 2014, 12:06:49 AM

Imagine how fast the gossip will spread when finally a grocery store is accepting "credit cards" payments (karma). people all over the world can send their loves one karma coin with in 3 minutes into their account. they don't have to do anything else then start using to buy food and clothes for themselves.



In principal I agree with you.

In reality I think there are presently 2 issues with Karma that, if not addressed, could make this adoption problematic...

1. Confirmation time... 200 confirmations required by Exchanges means the Payment Processor holds the risk for a long time.

2. Total Coin Supply & Value... Too many zeroes (imho) for day-to-day use.  Roughly USD $5 == PH 500p == 1 LTC == 1,000,000 Karma (@100 litosho)

Both these could be addressed by forking to a new wallet with supply of 920M (as suggested by someone earlier)

1, There is no need to involve exchange in such transactions

2. The price of Karma can be continually repriced for sake of these transactions, independent of exchanges. We would be letting an exchange that voluntarily decided to add Karma determine the value of Karma in these transactions. On their exchange, few-to-none of these new participants interact.

If, for example, these participants comprise 95% of all actual Karma usage it would not make sense to let an external marketplace (MintPal and it's KARM/*TC participants) determine the value that they receive for each Karma. The value should be determined much more by where the Karma is actually used, not traded.

Karma should therefore be priced independently of the exchanges with a "blue" market rate (an official black market), with a new limit to how many can be exchanged on this market each day (to mitigate the arbitrage problem).
hero member
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September 11, 2014, 11:38:45 PM
If you have noticed this is the way we operate before:

Someone would say:

1. "Let us make a tipping drive to get more Karma users!"  Others would go: "Nah, it does not work...it's a waste of time, 'been there."
2. "Let us apply to the mobile tipping apps, so people can pay with karma!" Others: "Nah. Karma is too cheap...they would need millions to pay for an item."
3. "Let us make a gaming site where Karma can be used!" Others: "We may run into legal problems with that."
4. "Let us make an online market with Karma currency as payment. " argument number 2 "
5. "Let us make Karma a means to help the poor and remittance sender of the Philippines and Africa!" Others; "Preposterous, bitcoin has done that already, we cannot compete!"

Essentially making KARMA useless. So why don't we change the tune? Instead of contradicting each other's ideas, why don't we find solutions together to make them all feasible and profitable.

So much to do and no one to do them. Join us on Trello https://trello.com/easteagle13/recommend and together make our Karma dreams come true!
hero member
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September 11, 2014, 11:25:42 PM


Let us give the community more options to use Karma.

STEP 1.   Register in casheer forum.

STEP 2.   Make a comment on this request. http://forum.casheer.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=171&p=1250#p1250

Is this hard to do? No. Will you need to pay to finish this task? No.

Yet, even this tiny, little effort, anyone can raise a good argument on why he would not do it. Like:" Karma is too cheap! We cannot make people to choose to pay with karma! "

Don't find obstacles for our efforts. Find solutions.


Go there. Make that supportive comment. When they add us, people can then decide if they want to use Karma or not. At least we are already done with that task!


hero member
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September 11, 2014, 11:06:52 PM

Welcome Warfwarf and pdogg147 to trello!

Chargin, join the organization drive and improve matters from within. Join trello please.  https://trello.com/easteagle13/recommend

The same open invitation goes to everyone here. Let us be organized and brainstorm on what route should Karma and the community take within the next 3 months.

Or waste time talking here about POSSIBLE solutions, without an organization that will make it a reality.


We have seen that no matter how good a man can be, he cannot do this alone. So, no individual here can make Karma succeed. ONLY THE COMMUNITY EFFORT CAN.

THIS IS OUR CHOICE TO MAKE.


Stop dreaming wake up. Join the Karma brotherhood.
full member
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September 11, 2014, 10:20:15 PM
BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT/KARMA DISTRIBUTION GROUP LEADERS/SPEAKERS
This is one of the most important group, the source of all karma income that will ensure the success of Karma, Only the best should be the leaders here.
kosmost  (DECLINED TOO BAD HE IS MY CHOICE HERE TOO)         
Chargin        MY CHOICE
LittleDuke     MY CHOICE
cryptowho

HUMAN RESOURCES/BUDGET SPEAKERS/LEADERS WE NEED TWO
This group will handle the identification of future human resource for karma needs. This will also handle the release of funds for Karma projects, once all signatories have agreed in writing.
Only the trustworthy are worthy here.


Chargin           MY CHOICE
karmakaguy
Bierwors
Alphi
p4r4m0unt       MY CHOICE

Thanks for calling me one of "the best" and "trustworthy". Tongue

However I believe tasks should be allocated not roles. If somebody steps up to do a task then they can do it. Only one of the things you listed is a task, the coordinator position, as he keeps track of who is working on what tasks.

Chargin.
sr. member
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Advancing Liberty Through Blockchain
September 11, 2014, 07:47:44 PM
I registered on the site, but i don't understand how to navigate to the right place! Tongue

Same here.
legendary
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September 11, 2014, 06:16:09 PM

Imagine how fast the gossip will spread when finally a grocery store is accepting "credit cards" payments (karma). people all over the world can send their loves one karma coin with in 3 minutes into their account. they don't have to do anything else then start using to buy food and clothes for themselves.



In principal I agree with you.

In reality I think there are presently 2 issues with Karma that, if not addressed, could make this adoption problematic...

1. Confirmation time... 200 confirmations required by Exchanges means the Payment Processor holds the risk for a long time.

2. Total Coin Supply & Value... Too many zeroes (imho) for day-to-day use.  Roughly USD $5 == PH 500p == 1 LTC == 1,000,000 Karma (@100 litosho)

Both these could be addressed by forking to a new wallet with supply of 920M (as suggested by someone earlier)

i always voiced my opinion on too many coin. ever since we were at 40 bill. Lunching a new coin at that time was not optional so i was requesting we stop the coin bleeding by x1000. at that time the community said that it would lower the nethashare and it would be a problem. here we are with low hashrate now anyways and with 20+ Billions more coin.

Yes. to making anything possible to reduce the numbers. i would prefer 92 million coins. karma will be cheap so the price wont prevent people to buy them at beginning. I really would like us to focus on this and find a solution

As far as exchanges having 200 confirmation this would be hard to remove. They have a saying in it. they do it to prevent double spending from coins that have low total network hashrates. Reddcoin had 1000 confirmation because of this.

By fixing the number of coins and creating a demand it will prompt miners to jump on our coin increasing the hashrates and helping remove the 200 confirmations
sr. member
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September 11, 2014, 05:19:00 PM

Imagine how fast the gossip will spread when finally a grocery store is accepting "credit cards" payments (karma). people all over the world can send their loves one karma coin with in 3 minutes into their account. they don't have to do anything else then start using to buy food and clothes for themselves.



In principal I agree with you.

In reality I think there are presently 2 issues with Karma that, if not addressed, could make this adoption problematic...

1. Confirmation time... 200 confirmations required by Exchanges means the Payment Processor holds the risk for a long time.

2. Total Coin Supply & Value... Too many zeroes (imho) for day-to-day use.  Roughly USD $5 == PH 500p == 1 LTC == 1,000,000 Karma (@100 litosho)

Both these could be addressed by forking to a new wallet with supply of 920M (as suggested by someone earlier)
jr. member
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September 11, 2014, 05:01:25 PM
I registered on the site, but i don't understand how to navigate to the right place! Tongue
hero member
Activity: 658
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September 11, 2014, 03:50:13 PM
Hi, here is the current donations for Karma promotion and devs payment(hopefully)

KARMA donations - KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm
Chargin                                                  25M
(I can't find the link of the one who gave) - 11M
ryannguyen18                                         10M
cryptowho/bitwho                                    10M  
karmakaguy                                             10M
easteagle13                                            10M
bondi                                                      1M
someone sent                                               10K
                                             total          77 009 999.80 KARMA

If you happen to be the one who sent the unnamed amounts kindly reply to this thanks.


BTC - 12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD

easteagle13                                           0.0075BTC

we still need 39 people to send same amount (0.0075BTC) to pay for this: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto, soon this will be turned off if we don't pay up (shameful really, if we cannot fund 0.3BTC as a community, this is a litmus test on how we really care for karma)

Check the values in the blockchains please.

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU.


I'm sorry, but i meant to send 5m, not 50m. Is it possible for you to send 45m back to me? Smiley (KKc8B2QmM75x4NRXaUZJXre5Pye3Mmu4Hm)

Thanks!


Okay, I will send it immediately.
please register to trello so we can work together for karma thank you for your donation. https://trello.com/easteagle13/recommend

45M Refund SENT! We are waiting for you in trello!  TX ID 4398e04523544a9706edc5fdd535848fadc7799ada85127cb6927e5bda1e4eb7
hero member
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Creator of the ICO
September 11, 2014, 03:42:22 PM
Okay, I will send it immediately.
please register to trello so we can work together for karma thank you for your donation. https://trello.com/easteagle13/recommend

For future reference, you may want to always verify such requests with a signed message from the other person.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 03:19:29 PM
Hi, here is the current donations for Karma promotion and devs payment(hopefully)

KARMA donations - KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm
Chargin                                                  25M
(I can't find the link of the one who gave) - 11M
ryannguyen18                                         10M
cryptowho/bitwho                                    10M   
karmakaguy                                             10M
easteagle13                                            10M
bondi                                                      1M
someone sent                                               10K
                                             total          77 009 999.80 KARMA

If you happen to be the one who sent the unnamed amounts kindly reply to this thanks.


BTC - 12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD

easteagle13                                           0.0075BTC

we still need 39 people to send same amount (0.0075BTC) to pay for this: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto, soon this will be turned off if we don't pay up (shameful really, if we cannot fund 0.3BTC as a community, this is a litmus test on how we really care for karma)

Check the values in the blockchains please.

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU.


I'm sorry, but i meant to send 5m, not 50m. Is it possible for you to send 45m back to me? Smiley (KKc8B2QmM75x4NRXaUZJXre5Pye3Mmu4Hm)

Thanks!


Okay, I will send it immediately.
please register to trello so we can work together for karma thank you for your donation. https://trello.com/easteagle13/recommend
jr. member
Activity: 60
Merit: 1
September 11, 2014, 03:17:49 PM
Hi, here is the current donations for Karma promotion and devs payment(hopefully)

KARMA donations - KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm
Chargin                                                  25M
(I can't find the link of the one who gave) - 11M
ryannguyen18                                         10M
cryptowho/bitwho                                    10M  
karmakaguy                                             10M
easteagle13                                            10M
bondi                                                      1M
someone sent                                               10K
                                             total          77 009 999.80 KARMA

If you happen to be the one who sent the unnamed amounts kindly reply to this thanks.


BTC - 12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD

easteagle13                                           0.0075BTC

we still need 39 people to send same amount (0.0075BTC) to pay for this: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto, soon this will be turned off if we don't pay up (shameful really, if we cannot fund 0.3BTC as a community, this is a litmus test on how we really care for karma)

Check the values in the blockchains please.

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU.


I'm sorry, but i meant to send 5m, not 50m. Is it possible for you to send 45m back to me? Smiley (KKc8B2QmM75x4NRXaUZJXre5Pye3Mmu4Hm)

Thanks!
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
September 11, 2014, 02:53:33 PM
Have you answered these??

a. Why do you love KARMA?
b. In the range of 1-10, 10 being in the top, TOP 100 richest KARMA holder. What number would you be??
c. What are you GOOD at, not necessarily very good, but something you do well. WHAT IS IT?
d. Do you want to stay and help KARMA and the community?? Reply with a yes or no.





LET ME ORGANIZE THINGS FOR THE MOMENT.

For a while until we have installed a new community-chosen groups leaders, let me coordinate things or I see things will not move.

PLEASE MAKE YOUR DECISION HERE, THE MORE TIME WE ARE UNDECIDED THE WORST KARMA SITUATION BECOMES.


Please consider these proposals and choose TWO(2) for every position:

FOR OVER ALL COORDINATORS  WE NEED TWO
This 2 persons will handle the coordination of all Karma related functions making sure everything is going as scheduled and are handled correctly. (mostly talk to persons involved)
Chargin
Cryptowho
p4r4m0unt
socoban
karmakaguy << MY OTHER CHOICE
Alphi
ptman
easteagle13 (I would like to be here, since coordination of activities entails talking to different karma community members, I would happily do that)


FOR DEVELOPERS GROUPS SPEAKERS/LEAD WE NEED TWO
This is a very important group that will ensure that Karma hardware and software support are maintained to their optimum, present and future software.
cryptowho MY CHOICE
javijavier
socoban
ptman      MY CHOICE
learminer
ChulaLoca (FredDag)
karmakaguy
warfwarf


FOR COMMUNITY SPEAKERS/LEADERS WE NEED TWO
This 2 persons will handle BTTforum, FB, Twitter, karmawire, reddit and other official press and public announcements.
pdogg               MY CHOICE
cryptowho
Chargin
karmakaguy     
mryusa           
Bierworst           MY CHOICE
ryannguyen18
easteagle13


BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT/KARMA DISTRIBUTION GROUP LEADERS/SPEAKERS
This is one of the most important group, the source of all karma income that will ensure the success of Karma, Only the best should be the leaders here.
kosmost  (DECLINED TOO BAD HE IS MY CHOICE HERE TOO)         
Chargin        MY CHOICE
LittleDuke     MY CHOICE
cryptowho
 


HUMAN RESOURCES/BUDGET SPEAKERS/LEADERS WE NEED TWO
This group will handle the identification of future human resource for karma needs. This will also handle the release of funds for Karma projects, once all signatories have agreed in writing.
Only the trustworthy are worthy here.


Chargin           MY CHOICE
karmakaguy
Bierwors
Alphi
p4r4m0unt       MY CHOICE


The above lists of persons are only proposals, you can add yourself to any group and mark your vote by typing after the nick name the words : "MY CHOICE"

In case you don't want your name to be included on the list mark your own name with "I CANNOT DO THIS"

The community chosen speakers/leaders will then handle the day to day needs of Karma. They will receive compensation (TBA)
 according to their accomplishments. Coming from the working fund that will be given by the community, the fund will be stored in ESCROW and will only be released as needed per project.
The release of fund will be approved only when 1 leader from the 5 groups above have approve it. Any one of the two speakers/leaders may approve.

There are many capable and willing karma community members, the list above is not to exclude you, if ever you are willing to work for the community just reply here with what group do you want to belong.

Once the group leaders are installed and finalized, all community members will be divided among those five groups. This will ensure there will be enough people to attend to the all works needed for karma.

If you have another person that you want to propose for a position above please do say it.

All other that will not be leaders will automatically belong to the group they are listed above, and they can volunteer to be a member of other groups too.

Thanks for your participation, let us do these karma brothers.



im here to help with as much as i can and will accept who ever steps ups to join these fields. We can do this!

Gj to East for pushing it forward. thats the spirit!!
legendary
Activity: 1024
Merit: 1004
September 11, 2014, 02:07:27 PM
In case you missed the several times we have covered this, "while the manager essentially liquidated a large percent of his personal holdings on the open market"... is simply an unfounded and quite a bit of an ignorant (and offensive) statement.

Also, we did not raise funds. It's cryptocurrency.

And in case you've been asleep at the wheel, the IRS considers them in the same class as they do property aka stocks and bonds.

http://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroom/IRS-Virtual-Currency-Guidance

Even Bittrex has the explicit approval from FINCEN to operate as cryptocurrency exchange...

hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 01:46:48 PM


Everyone who are willing to take part in karma's activities will be invited to TRELLO, you will have access to all activities going on by the community and see clearly the progress of each activity, and to where help is needed.

In this way everyone will be in the loop.

OR WOULD YOU RATHER SEE KARMA SLOWLY DIE?

If not then register now on TRELLO. https://trello.com/easteagle13/recommend be sure to use your nickname familiar to karma community.

Thanks Fitamp for registering, that's the Karma spirit!
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