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hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 501
Creator of the ICO
September 11, 2014, 12:25:25 PM


As discussed, I will only be helping Karma with whatever services, websites, etc., need to be transitioned to someone else.

After that I will be a silent member of the community (as I still own Karma and intend to keep it until Karma finds its true market). I will likely check in every 2 or 3 months.

But for the moment, I am still here posting whatever I can.

Let's also not forget to post to our subreddit and keep that active. It's been dead for a while.

i dont understand. help me understand please.

after you hand over any karma services that you control (which should be done very soon. a week max) you are done. you will not be involved with anything except posting here and there , as you please?

aka. your officially out of karma "team" ?

After that, yes.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 501
Creator of the ICO
September 11, 2014, 12:23:54 PM

The only way I would risk my reputation would be if this was rebooted in a legitimate and legal way.  

I think the notion of a member-owned LLC that purportedly is going to enrich its members is not at this time a viable option.

What I do have are resources and the legitimate non-profit Strength in Numbers Foundation in addition to the for profit "Vires in Numeris LLC" that is the holding company for doabitofgood.com.

I'm not anonymous -- you can find my bio at http://linkedin.com/in/dvduccini

So if you want to talk about doing this in a 120% transparent way, I'm interested.

Especially if there is a way to link the X11 based GIVEcoin chain into the mix.  I believe that all boats will rise.

Just my .02

-dvd

Hi, If you haven't noticed yet, KARMASHARES LLC is a thing of the past and this is an attempt of a clean reboot. Care to elaborate your proposals? Please lay it out as though I'm 5.

Oh I noticed that its only Thursday and that it was purportedly a going venture as of just a few days ago when Kosmost was defending his rationale for his personal belief that it was legally in the clear to raise funds...I'll let all the former "member shareholders" determine what they want to do about the value of their investment.

Because from all outside appearances a bunch of people were entreated to sequester a portion of their assets for a period of time while the manager essentially liquidated a large percent of his personal holdings on the open market...unless I'm missing something from the long sordid history here???

And as I far as I can tell the Secretary of State has not received a voluntary declaration that the LLC has ceased operations.

You see, this level of belief and trust is truly dizzying -- it's one of the reasons I stay more than an arms length away from getting seriously involved.

I'm willing to consider adding Karma to the list of supported crypto hosted on https://doabitofgood.com which would be the first step on a path to making it eligible to be officially supported and sanctioned by the Strength in Numbers Foundation.

We have already established a permanent development coinlab where we can repeatably build and release wallets on all platforms -- in fact as of this morning we have released a Mac OS X Clean Water Coin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8777579

I'm happy to advise and consult on your re-org -- if people are serious about this, then I suggest we spin up a Skype meeting/channel and discuss sometime.

-dvd

In case you missed the several times we have covered this, "while the manager essentially liquidated a large percent of his personal holdings on the open market"... is simply an unfounded and quite a bit of an ignorant (and offensive) statement.

Also, we did not raise funds. It's cryptocurrency.
legendary
Activity: 1019
Merit: 1001
Spectreproject Community Manager
September 11, 2014, 12:21:03 PM
....Let us not miss this train. Lets not focus majority of our energy to try to be tipping coin. Every single coin that come out uses this analogy. Lets be something greater. Lets create a payment network for people who can not afford the huge fees of the Banks!

This makes the most sense of anything I've read here the last few days during all these huge quote boxes and
people old and new going in so many different directions its hard to keep up with them all.
Charity and tipping won't grow any coin.
A coin must be a means of a fast, smooth and clean transaction to be of any use in the world crypto or otherwise.
Easy to get, easy to keep and easy to spend.

legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
September 11, 2014, 12:17:51 PM


As discussed, I will only be helping Karma with whatever services, websites, etc., need to be transitioned to someone else.

After that I will be a silent member of the community (as I still own Karma and intend to keep it until Karma finds its true market). I will likely check in every 2 or 3 months.

But for the moment, I am still here posting whatever I can.

Let's also not forget to post to our subreddit and keep that active. It's been dead for a while.

i dont understand. help me understand please.

after you hand over any karma services that you control (which should be done very soon. a week max) you are done. you will not be involved with anything except posting here and there , as you please?

aka. your officially out of karma "team" ?
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 12:12:25 PM
Okay, good points everyone.

We don't have to be against each other's point of view on how to push KARMA.

TIME TO GET ORGANIZED..

Please make an account here  https://trello.com/easteagle13/recommend   USING YOUR BTT forum nick so we can create a business board. Where everyone can be "in the loop" as to what things are needed to be done, who is doing what and how far it is accomplished, regarding Karma.

We have passed the test if we have "a community" by showing our willingness to share on the payment of a service.

Now let us put "the community" in the effort to be organized. You can all see what is going on. This is a crucial step.

legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
September 11, 2014, 11:58:25 AM
I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

Brand it K-Boom! Smiley


going after twitter tipping and celebrities and blogs has been proven to be pointless. I remember reddcoin rallying up to do this and it didn't help them at all. they tipped people with millions of coins. dogecoin had Snoop dog mention them. Didnt give them any awareness help

I am not going against this method, but if its this vs bringing karma to ASIA i chose going to ASIA as our primary!

TO all that are saying we should create a want target for then neeed, i think you're missing the point.

We should not look for people that need karma in asia! they most likely do not understand what a crypto currencies is nor would care to learn about karma.

What our little research showed is that people in Philippines are unbanked. They need an easy way to use a payment system. So they can enjoy the easiness of a credit card. Unbanked means that they can not afford banks fees so they do not use banks

This is where Karma would fit in. With ways of either internet or SMS ,they can use their phones to make karma transactions. Karma has literally no fees when it come to small transactions.

Most of you all are missing the point about Philippines needing Karma . We will not go looking for people who need karma (the way we know karma. trading in and out), we will look for merchants who want to use blockchain transaction of karma. Look for people who would like to created a credit card style payment but can not afford to use credit cards fees. ( heck, even here in USA, small grocery do not use credit cards payments , cash only, due to the fees to use credit card system) We start finding the merchants and show them how easy they can use karma as payment methods. Make it a trustless system. with help of automatic scrypt they can sells items and receive fiat in their accounts.

again. make it a trustless system. The merchants would sell something and receive fiat in their accounts. They wont even have to know what what happened in the back end of the automatic system. just like your credit card. Almost no one know how the credit cards works but million of million of users use it every day to pay for stuff. you swipe , you sign and you get your receipt. Same thing with Karma. they will just use it!. in the back ground the transaction would go as  , karma -> BTC -> fiat!    

Not only i agree that we should focus on finding merchants in Asia but i feel we should strive to find people who will give a discount if clients use them.

For example the difference between overstock and newegg. I could be wrong but as far as i know overstock.com implemented bitcoin as a payment for users to shop. Newegg.com not only finally implemented bitcoin payments but they offered $150 off of $500 purchase.
I think we should go after that kind of model. You don't have to be a bitcoin believer to want to profit $150 off sale.
As a regular customer. If i see a banner that says with few clicks away i could save $150 i would do it.
I would use the automatic process. Use my credit card. Charge $450 , get the bitcoins send them to newegg and be done with.
I don't have to be a firm believe of bitcoin to use that deal.
Therefore, closing deals with such merchants would benefit greatly. As more clients would be inclined to use us to get the discount.
After a few use uses they would probably want to get to know our system more.
They most likely spread the word around their own people , urging them to save this way
There so far


Imagine how fast the gossip will spread when finally a grocery store is accepting "credit cards" payments (karma). people all over the world can send their loves one karma coin with in 3 minutes into their account. they don't have to do anything else then start using to buy food and clothes for themselves.




All of this will not be easy to do! make no mistakes. It will be a hard journey. But the good thing is we got the core system already working. We got the karma block chain ready to do transaction and we got tons of exchanges ready to move the money.


Recap :

merchants:  
Small merchants can use credit card type payments with little to no fees.

Tab options ....They can use "tab" like bookkeeping in their customers. basically the seller will know the local clients public address and can keep a tab of things they buy doring the week and give them an invoice in the end. Kind of like credit cards want you to pay them once a month. you have the liberty to buy stuff even though you have no money at the moment.


Regular users:
No cash in pockets . this is the lest their worry but at least they can use phones to make payments

They can finally have a banking account type. they send coin to their wallet and they can use it to buy and pay stuff. with little to no fees.

they can have their relatives all over the world send them coins. instead of using money wire transferring services that charge huge percentage they can use karma block chain to send coins with in 3 minute and probably 2-3 cents charge!

they can use prepaid Karma cards as gift to give to others.

....

The list is endless. This is why blockchains transaction are revolutionary! Especially now with EBay finally giving in and addopting bitcoin blockchain!!




Let us not miss this train. Lets not focus majority of our energy to try to be tipping coin. Every single coin that come out uses this analogy. Lets be something greater. Lets create a payment network for people who can not afford the huge fees of the Banks!





hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 11:37:37 AM

The only way I would risk my reputation would be if this was rebooted in a legitimate and legal way.  

I think the notion of a member-owned LLC that purportedly is going to enrich its members is not at this time a viable option.

What I do have are resources and the legitimate non-profit Strength in Numbers Foundation in addition to the for profit "Vires in Numeris LLC" that is the holding company for doabitofgood.com.

I'm not anonymous -- you can find my bio at http://linkedin.com/in/dvduccini

So if you want to talk about doing this in a 120% transparent way, I'm interested.

Especially if there is a way to link the X11 based GIVEcoin chain into the mix.  I believe that all boats will rise.

Just my .02

-dvd

Hi, If you haven't noticed yet, KARMASHARES LLC is a thing of the past and this is an attempt of a clean reboot. Care to elaborate your proposals? Please lay it out as though I'm 5.

Oh I noticed that its only Thursday and that it was purportedly a going venture as of just a few days ago when Kosmost was defending his rationale for his personal belief that it was legally in the clear to raise funds...I'll let all the former "member shareholders" determine what they want to do about the value of their investment.

Because from all outside appearances a bunch of people were entreated to sequester a portion of their assets for a period of time while the manager essentially liquidated a large percent of his personal holdings on the open market...unless I'm missing something from the long sordid history here???

And as I far as I can tell the Secretary of State has not received a voluntary declaration that the LLC has ceased operations.

You see, this level of belief and trust is truly dizzying -- it's one of the reasons I stay more than an arms length away from getting seriously involved.

I'm willing to consider adding Karma to the list of supported crypto hosted on https://doabitofgood.com which would be the first step on a path to making it eligible to be officially supported and sanctioned by the Strength in Numbers Foundation.

We have already established a permanent development coinlab where we can repeatably build and release wallets on all platforms -- in fact as of this morning we have released a Mac OS X Clean Water Coin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8777579

I'm happy to advise and consult on your re-org -- if people are serious about this, then I suggest we spin up a Skype meeting/channel and discuss sometime.

-dvd

Okay thank you very much about the heads up, I think you and the person actually involved has exchanged posts about this. He will surely take the necessary steps needed to suit his purpose regarding the LLC issue.

As for the other matters, these are important and massive steps that we have to wait until a new governing body is installed. Which can act as the community's representative to make such decision. As of the moment I am trying to coordinate this to happen.  I may or may not fail.

-east
legendary
Activity: 1024
Merit: 1004
September 11, 2014, 10:54:33 AM

The only way I would risk my reputation would be if this was rebooted in a legitimate and legal way.  

I think the notion of a member-owned LLC that purportedly is going to enrich its members is not at this time a viable option.

What I do have are resources and the legitimate non-profit Strength in Numbers Foundation in addition to the for profit "Vires in Numeris LLC" that is the holding company for doabitofgood.com.

I'm not anonymous -- you can find my bio at http://linkedin.com/in/dvduccini

So if you want to talk about doing this in a 120% transparent way, I'm interested.

Especially if there is a way to link the X11 based GIVEcoin chain into the mix.  I believe that all boats will rise.

Just my .02

-dvd

Hi, If you haven't noticed yet, KARMASHARES LLC is a thing of the past and this is an attempt of a clean reboot. Care to elaborate your proposals? Please lay it out as though I'm 5.

Oh I noticed that its only Thursday and that it was purportedly a going venture as of just a few days ago when Kosmost was defending his rationale for his personal belief that it was legally in the clear to raise funds...I'll let all the former "member shareholders" determine what they want to do about the value of their investment.

Because from all outside appearances a bunch of people were entreated to sequester a portion of their assets for a period of time while the manager essentially liquidated a large percent of his personal holdings on the open market...unless I'm missing something from the long sordid history here???

And as I far as I can tell the Secretary of State has not received a voluntary declaration that the LLC has ceased operations.

You see, this level of belief and trust is truly dizzying -- it's one of the reasons I stay more than an arms length away from getting seriously involved.

I'm willing to consider adding Karma to the list of supported crypto hosted on https://doabitofgood.com which would be the first step on a path to making it eligible to be officially supported and sanctioned by the Strength in Numbers Foundation.

We have already established a permanent development coinlab where we can repeatably build and release wallets on all platforms -- in fact as of this morning we have released a Mac OS X Clean Water Coin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8777579

I'm happy to advise and consult on your re-org -- if people are serious about this, then I suggest we spin up a Skype meeting/channel and discuss sometime.

-dvd
legendary
Activity: 1100
Merit: 1032
September 11, 2014, 10:04:45 AM


Hi everyone, fairglu of https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto is now paid. for One year period, Sept 2014 to Aug. 2015. Please if you will be using that karma service, try not to "abuse" it.

1EBKJDVq64XRbYSLTQp7yKhShsEq9DdWaZ

TX ID:   3471d645e8ab8714f7d457356882c0aa71c4dabf1a27d11c7d081ccbc2d6b0aa

THANKS TO ALL WHO CONTRIBUTED!

Confirmed!

I also just tagged the mining pools.
If someone recognizes his deposit address as part of the big exchange wallets, let me know and I'll tag it as well.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 09:10:18 AM
I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

Brand it K-Boom! Smiley

We should make our best effort to not call it a "cryptocurrencry", because that is a word most people do not know, and people tend to not like what is unknown.

We have to brainstorm a lot in order to reach a consensus on how Karma should be marketed.


This is the reason why we should reorganize as fast as possible.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 09:09:43 AM


Hi everyone, fairglu of https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto is now paid. for One year period, Sept 2014 to Aug. 2015. Please if you will be using that karma service, try not to "abuse" it.

1EBKJDVq64XRbYSLTQp7yKhShsEq9DdWaZ

TX ID:   3471d645e8ab8714f7d457356882c0aa71c4dabf1a27d11c7d081ccbc2d6b0aa

THANKS TO ALL WHO CONTRIBUTED!
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
September 11, 2014, 09:03:01 AM
I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

Brand it K-Boom! Smiley

We should make our best effort to not call it a "cryptocurrencry", because that is a word most people do not know, and people tend to not like what is unknown.

We have to brainstorm a lot in order to reach a consensus on how Karma should be marketed.

Good points
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 250
September 11, 2014, 08:58:54 AM
I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

Brand it K-Boom! Smiley

We should make our best effort to not call it a "cryptocurrencry", because that is a word most people do not know, and people tend to not like what is unknown.

We have to brainstorm a lot in order to reach a consensus on how Karma should be marketed.
hero member
Activity: 528
Merit: 500
We are the ones we've been waiting for
September 11, 2014, 08:52:54 AM
I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

Brand it K-Boom! Smiley
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 08:48:11 AM


BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT/KARMA DISTRIBUTION GROUP LEADERS/SPEAKERS
This is one of the most important group, the source of all karma income that will ensure the success of Karma, Only the best should be the leaders here.
kosmost
Chargin
LittleDuke
cryptowho


The only way I would risk my reputation would be if this was rebooted in a legitimate and legal way.  

I think the notion of a member-owned LLC that purportedly is going to enrich its members is not at this time a viable option.

What I do have are resources and the legitimate non-profit Strength in Numbers Foundation in addition to the for profit "Vires in Numeris LLC" that is the holding company for doabitofgood.com.

I'm not anonymous -- you can find my bio at http://linkedin.com/in/dvduccini

So if you want to talk about doing this in a 120% transparent way, I'm interested.

Especially if there is a way to link the X11 based GIVEcoin chain into the mix.  I believe that all boats will rise.

Just my .02

-dvd

Hi, If you haven't noticed yet, KARMASHARES LLC is a thing of the past and this is an attempt of a clean reboot. Care to elaborate your proposals? Please lay it out as though I'm 5.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 08:35:07 AM
I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

I like this idea.
Anything that involves celebrities will give us a massive exposure.

We just need to be able to transmit a very clear idea about what is our objective before we have such a big exposure.

+1 bignev might me someone Karma need! Please let us know how can we help in doing that!

Oh I could write the blog and do everything required myself no problem. I also have a pretty good idea about which celebs to target, especially in the UK.

As ptman said there needs to be a consensus about where Karma is headed before any great exposure comes. I would feel more comfortable too.

Also, I still need to find a coin for the people I have signed up. The reason I'm sticking with Karma at the moment despite the recent turmoil is because this seems like a really good community and if I don't go ahead with Karma at least I can contribute something during my time here.

Peace

You and your ideas are welcome, you can write about Karma, try your ideas. The more we are talking about karma to other people the better.

By this method we acquaint the people and when the time comes that they get interested to get involved with digital currency, they will surely look up Karma too.
This is similar to how billboard ads work, they acquaint people, they expose them to their product that although while passing that way, those people may not take immediate action regarding those ads, but when the moment comes that they are ready to be involved with that line of product, they will recall that billboard ad. In similar fashion, you taking karma in front of peoples' attention will not hurt Karma.

Blog about Karma, we will send some coins your way Wink

newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
September 11, 2014, 08:07:53 AM
I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

I like this idea.
Anything that involves celebrities will give us a massive exposure.

We just need to be able to transmit a very clear idea about what is our objective before we have such a big exposure.

+1 bignev might me someone Karma need! Please let us know how can we help in doing that!

Oh I could write the blog and do everything required myself no problem. I also have a pretty good idea about which celebs to target, especially in the UK.

As ptman said there needs to be a consensus about where Karma is headed before any great exposure comes. I would feel more comfortable too.

Also, I still need to find a coin for the people I have signed up. The reason I'm sticking with Karma at the moment despite the recent turmoil is because this seems like a really good community and if I don't go ahead with Karma at least I can contribute something during my time here.

Peace
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 07:56:09 AM
Thanks fairglu for that informative post, our payment is nearing completion, would we get any kind of receipt after payment, so that we can document the transaction properly?

What kind of receipt would satisfy you? I usually acknowledge in PM, I could acknowledge here

And will our payment allow us for the indefinite use of your services?

It's for one year. I assume than in a year either KARMA will be either valuable and pay for itself... or an explorer won't be necessary anymore. I'm not sure either about the hosting costs in one year, or the BTC/USD rate, might have collapsed or gone to the moon.

If you ever decide to migrate to a new blockchain during the year, the explorer can be carried over to the new blockchain with no charge, and I'll leave explorer for both old and new chain running at the same time during the transition to facilitate things (happened a few times already).

No offense meant, I would just like to ensure that, if ever another person takes over or manage your site, our paid service will still be acknowledged without any problem.
legendary
Activity: 1100
Merit: 1032
September 11, 2014, 07:47:45 AM
Thanks fairglu for that informative post, our payment is nearing completion, would we get any kind of receipt after payment, so that we can document the transaction properly?

What kind of receipt would satisfy you? I usually acknowledge in PM, I could acknowledge here

And will our payment allow us for the indefinite use of your services?

It's for one year. I assume than in a year either KARMA will be either valuable and pay for itself... or an explorer won't be necessary anymore. I'm not sure either about the hosting costs in one year, or the BTC/USD rate, might have collapsed or gone to the moon.

If you ever decide to migrate to a new blockchain during the year, the explorer can be carried over to the new blockchain with no charge, and I'll leave explorer for both old and new chain running at the same time during the transition to facilitate things (happened a few times already).
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 07:44:08 AM
I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

I like this idea.
Anything that involves celebrities will give us a massive exposure.

We just need to be able to transmit a very clear idea about what is our objective before we have such a big exposure.

+1 bignev might me someone Karma need! Please let us know how can we help in doing that!
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