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hero member
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September 12, 2014, 09:06:36 AM
HERE, KINDLY FINISH THIS SO WE CAN MOVE ON.


Have you answered these??

a. Why do you love KARMA?
b. In the range of 1-10, 10 being in the top, TOP 100 richest KARMA holder. What number would you be??
c. What are you GOOD at, not necessarily very good, but something you do well. WHAT IS IT?
d. Do you want to stay and help KARMA and the community?? Reply with a yes or no.





LET ME ORGANIZE THINGS FOR THE MOMENT.

For a while until we have installed a new community-chosen groups leaders, let me coordinate things or I see things will not move.

PLEASE MAKE YOUR DECISION HERE, THE MORE TIME WE ARE UNDECIDED THE WORST KARMA SITUATION BECOMES.


Please consider these proposals and choose TWO(2) for every position:

FOR OVER ALL COORDINATORS  WE NEED TWO
This 2 persons will handle the coordination of all Karma related functions making sure everything is going as scheduled and are handled correctly. (mostly talk to persons involved)
Chargin
Cryptowho
p4r4m0unt
socoban
karmakaguy << MY OTHER CHOICE
Alphi
ptman
easteagle13 (I would like to be here, since coordination of activities entails talking to different karma community members, I would happily do that)


FOR DEVELOPERS GROUPS SPEAKERS/LEAD WE NEED TWO
This is a very important group that will ensure that Karma hardware and software support are maintained to their optimum, present and future software.
cryptowho MY CHOICE
javijavier
socoban
ptman      MY CHOICE
learminer
ChulaLoca (FredDag)
karmakaguy
warfwarf


FOR COMMUNITY SPEAKERS/LEADERS WE NEED TWO
This 2 persons will handle BTTforum, FB, Twitter, karmawire, reddit and other official press and public announcements.
pdogg               MY CHOICE
cryptowho
Chargin
karmakaguy     
mryusa           
Bierworst           MY CHOICE
ryannguyen18
easteagle13


BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT/KARMA DISTRIBUTION GROUP LEADERS/SPEAKERS
This is one of the most important group, the source of all karma income that will ensure the success of Karma, Only the best should be the leaders here.
kosmost  (DECLINED TOO BAD HE IS MY CHOICE HERE TOO)         
Chargin        MY CHOICE
LittleDuke     MY CHOICE
cryptowho
 


HUMAN RESOURCES/BUDGET SPEAKERS/LEADERS WE NEED TWO
This group will handle the identification of future human resource for karma needs. This will also handle the release of funds for Karma projects, once all signatories have agreed in writing.
Only the trustworthy are worthy here.


Chargin           MY CHOICE
karmakaguy
Bierwors
Alphi
p4r4m0unt       MY CHOICE


The above lists of persons are only proposals, you can add yourself to any group and mark your vote by typing after the nick name the words : "MY CHOICE"

In case you don't want your name to be included on the list mark your own name with "I CANNOT DO THIS"

The community chosen speakers/leaders will then handle the day to day needs of Karma. They will receive compensation (TBA)
 according to their accomplishments. Coming from the working fund that will be given by the community, the fund will be stored in ESCROW and will only be released as needed per project.
The release of fund will be approved only when 1 leader from the 5 groups above have approve it. Any one of the two speakers/leaders may approve.

There are many capable and willing karma community members, the list above is not to exclude you, if ever you are willing to work for the community just reply here with what group do you want to belong.

Once the group leaders are installed and finalized, all community members will be divided among those five groups. This will ensure there will be enough people to attend to the all works needed for karma.

If you have another person that you want to propose for a position above please do say it.

All other that will not be leaders will automatically belong to the group they are listed above, and they can volunteer to be a member of other groups too.

Thanks for your participation, let us do these karma brothers.


hero member
Activity: 658
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September 12, 2014, 08:52:49 AM
I am glad that many of you are joining Trello Project management. As you can see there, mini tasks that will be done for the development of Karma will be easy to track. I have prepared initial tasks that we can handle once everything is in place.

In TRELLO, you can easily see:

-What needs to be done
-Who are the karma community member that are now involved in a particular task
-How far the task's progress is.

For me, this is a far better arrangement to set and do karma goals. I hope you can agree.

Now, we have to finish an important step. And that is making our group leaders OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED BY THE COMMUNITY. OUR OLD GROUPS HAVE BEEN DISBANDED SOMETIME AGO.

And the so called KarmaTeam is non existent at the moment, having javijavier, cryptowho, ryannguyen18, warfwarf, karmakaguy and me as the only remaining here without coherent plan, UNTIL WE MAKE GROUP LEADERS OFFICIAL.

When we have done that, the NEW KarmaTeam will be everyone ACTIVELY doing something for karma.

or else we wont make any important and substantial decision. Without such ability, we will halt and watch Karma and our investment fade away.

So please, VOTE. if you have another person in mind put him there. Thank you for your cooperation for everyone's welfare.
hero member
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September 12, 2014, 08:33:33 AM
Welcome to dogeyo_to_tokyo and TheLittleDuke to our TRELLO project boards.
hero member
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Merit: 500
September 12, 2014, 06:18:54 AM
I told multiple time what I think happened here. I will not help KARM in any way, until it is not clear what happened on 31.August and until there is some trusted proof KarmaShares and Lill.com was not scam. I do not want to be on one list with Kosmost in any way.
Holy s***, I hadn't even seen that event yet! The 1 week chart didn't show it when I got back from vacation.

Can anyone say/prove with reasonable certainty wether those dumps happened before or after the knowledge of the declined Lill deal became public?

Don't worry learminer it is not kosmost, the guy will not sell at 3-5 satoshis so it is illogical to think he will sell at below 1 ^_^. A person admitted, he has done that because he is just tired of everything, but it is not related to lill or karmashares, just out of personal impatience.
hero member
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September 12, 2014, 06:14:51 AM
I told multiple time what I think happened here. I will not help KARM in any way, until it is not clear what happened on 31.August and until there is some trusted proof KarmaShares and Lill.com was not scam. I do not want to be on one list with Kosmost in any way.
Holy s***, I hadn't even seen that event yet! The 1 week chart didn't show it when I got back from vacation.

Can anyone say/prove with reasonable certainty wether those dumps happened before or after the knowledge of the declined Lill deal became public?
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 12, 2014, 05:58:58 AM
I have registered on trello. However, as I am still unhappy I will only whatch what is going on for a while. Moreover, I am on hollyday during the next three weeks and will not be able to check anything. East, it is really astonishing how resilient you are. All new and fresh members should consider to help hilm as much as they can.

Thanks karmakaguy, please enjoy your holidays, and come back with renewed conviction to help out many people in need.
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
September 12, 2014, 05:46:47 AM
I have registered on trello. However, as I am still unhappy I will only whatch what is going on for a while. Moreover, I am on hollyday during the next three weeks and will not be able to check anything. East, it is really astonishing how resilient you are. All new and fresh members should consider to help hilm as much as they can.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 12, 2014, 05:39:56 AM
Welcome karmakaguy and Stefanov to Trello! You can browse the initial mini tasks that our community should start to complete. If you have any suggestion about anything you can post it there. You can also invite other people from anywhere to join us in Karma community!
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 12, 2014, 04:38:51 AM
no problem socoban, this is just an open invitation.

If it's so happen that not enough talent get on board. Then we just have to accept what will happen to Karma. But we have to try. You can join at your leisure.

BTW who is Arn0ldBG? Welcome to Trello!
sr. member
Activity: 314
Merit: 250
September 12, 2014, 04:29:18 AM
I would like to invite our karma brethren listed below to join us in TRELLO (a project coordinating GUI for free)
To better organize our common goal of making Karma work after all the fiascoes of the past few weeks.

https://trello.com/easteagle13/recommend

Listed in alphabetical order:

Alexandrake
Alphi
altcoingood
Beachguy
Bierworst
bignev
bondi
chalidore
Chargin
clayop
compumine
Danbcf
dips55tree
DStefanov
DStefanov
Facira
FredDag
huige007
joymagic
karmakaguy
Kennet_h
kosmost
learminer
mashac
Maurizio
mouseman
mroyusa
p4r4m0un7
ptman
ranlo
ryannguyen18
socoban
TheLittleDuke
toeshe
VladMcCloud
youseeberkeley
yummica

If you want to join and your nick is not listed above, please remember that we welcome you. Just click the link and be with us.


What is the task?  JOIN KARMA RE-ORGANIZATION.

Level of difficulty? EASY  

Importance?         MAX


After being invited and you choose not to join the reorganization, please do not wonder and whine, why you don't know what is really going on with KARMA...because you will be OUT OF THE LOOP! We may even decide to abandon BTTthread altogether to focus on our tasks and real market. Because to tell you frankly guys, WE ARE NOT KARMA'S market now.

We are now it's proponent vendors. I hope you'll come to the party!

CLICK ----> https://trello.com/easteagle13/recommend

I told multiple times what I think happened here. I will not help KARM in any way, until it is not clear what happened on 31.August and until there is some trusted proof KarmaShares and Lill.com was not scam. I do not want to be on one list with Kosmost in any way.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 12, 2014, 04:19:40 AM
Thanks to joymagic and allonething, and welcome to trello! We are currently organizing. This is a good step towards the right direction.

Please check PM.

I have replied.
sr. member
Activity: 348
Merit: 250
September 12, 2014, 04:12:28 AM
Thanks to joymagic and allonething, and welcome to trello! We are currently organizing. This is a good step towards the right direction.

Please check PM.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 501
Creator of the ICO
September 12, 2014, 04:01:09 AM
Thanks to joymagic and allonething, and welcome to trello! We are currently organizing. This is a good step towards the right direction.

Nice job. I am impressed by your efforts and hope you continue to keep up the good work, as always Smiley

Tell me, would a current member of the Karma team like to take over any of the services? I just wonder why no one volunteered.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 12, 2014, 03:06:43 AM
Thanks to joymagic and allonething, and welcome to trello! We are currently organizing. This is a good step towards the right direction.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 12, 2014, 03:00:54 AM
Kindly, who is Reflop??

a supporter in the shadows  Smiley
hope I can help even if I dont know how yet

okay thanks for joining us in TRELLO, please browse the GUI so you will become familiar on how to navigate it. There are now 7 community members in TRELLO welcome to all of you!!
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
September 12, 2014, 02:47:27 AM
Kindly, who is Reflop??

a supporter in the shadows  Smiley
hope I can help even if I dont know how yet
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 12, 2014, 02:14:54 AM
I would like to invite our karma brethren listed below to join us in TRELLO (a project coordinating GUI for free)
To better organize our common goal of making Karma work after all the fiascoes of the past few weeks.

https://trello.com/easteagle13/recommend

Listed in alphabetical order:

Alexandrake
Alphi
altcoingood
Beachguy
Bierworst
bignev
bondi
chalidore
Chargin
clayop
compumine
Danbcf
dips55tree
DStefanov
DStefanov
Facira
FredDag
huige007
joymagic
karmakaguy
Kennet_h
kosmost
learminer
mashac
Maurizio
mouseman
mroyusa
p4r4m0un7
ptman
ranlo
ryannguyen18
socoban
TheLittleDuke
toeshe
VladMcCloud
youseeberkeley
yummica

If you want to join and your nick is not listed above, please remember that we welcome you. Just click the link and be with us.


What is the task?  JOIN KARMA RE-ORGANIZATION.

Level of difficulty? EASY 

Importance?         MAX


After being invited and you choose not to join the reorganization, please do not wonder and whine, why you don't know what is really going on with KARMA...because you will be OUT OF THE LOOP! We may even decide to abandon BTTthread altogether to focus on our tasks and real market. Because to tell you frankly guys, WE ARE NOT KARMA'S market now.

We are now it's proponent vendors. I hope you'll come to the party!

CLICK ----> https://trello.com/easteagle13/recommend
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 12, 2014, 01:49:09 AM
Kindly, who is Reflop??
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 12, 2014, 01:16:57 AM
I would later invite you by name to trello.

In trello we would place all willing Karma member in a group where they may share their best ability or interest.

In that group admins can post, lists of TODO's and you can be invited to be involved in accomplishing them.

You can browse all activities of all groups if you request.

No one is too poor to have nothing to share, and too rich to have no need of anything else.

Let us review Karma's principle and remember what it is exactly that attracted you in this community.

"Karma is a digital currency that is designed to reward good in people, to encourage people to do good. It can be used in place of the "like" button, unlike that "like" button, Karma is usable."
 
Therefore, Karma is a digital money that we can, spread online to all our friends and love ones. Like them in your social media, by giving them Karma, reward them for making you smile with their latest photo post, or for reminding you of that special memory by their thoughtful quotes they posted, or the joy of seeing a funny video. Reward them with Karma. If they ask what is that? Tell them it is a digital money. In this way we realize the mission of Karma, rewarding the good in people.


How would you give Karma if they are not in a tipping enabled group??

-make a new wallet (save your old wallet.dat somewhere else by CUTTING and PASTING it in a new back up folder)
-Open Karma wallet (it will create new wallet.dat)
-copy the address created inside the wallet, paste it in a notepad
-close the wallet
-rename the new wallet.dat to your friend's name
-cut and paste the renamed friends wallet to the back up folder
-copy and paste your original wallet.dat to Karma folder
-open your wallet again, (your old wallet should show correctly)
-send the amount you would like to gve to your friend to the address you pasted on the notepad.
-wait till at least ONE confirmation is done to your transaction of sending
-close your wallet
-CUT and PASTE again the wallet.dat from your Karma folder
-copy your friends named wallet.dat to Karma folder
-rename that to wallet.dat
-make a ZIP of the entire Karma folder, of course making sure that your original wallet.dat is not inside that ZIP Smiley
-send that ZIP file to your friend
-teach him how to open a zip file you sent him.
-Enjoy a new karma brother!

This is actually easy after you understood how to do it.

Using a second PC with internet connection will make this easier! Install new wallet and send some Karma to that wallet, zip and send!


hero member
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Creator of the ICO
September 12, 2014, 12:44:07 AM
It's really nice to see more of us here step up with solutions in this "crisis mode".

One could almost say that a kick in the pants is exactly what Karma needed, but of course we're not there yet. And it's nice to see all these new faces.

But, controversially I suppose, I think the most important thing we can do now is making our target market the primary focus rather than the kind of market found right here on the bitcointalk forums.

It continues to amaze me that we think we can prosper without a target market and without a focus on that market.

We have a product without a focus on who that product is for, and why they need it. No operation can survive like this.

We need to re-think what we spend time focusing on. (Not "later" when we have developed more services. That is a ridiculous notion.)

If we had a forum where only Karma miners were invited, they would want Karma to go in one direction.

If we had a forum where only those who got Karma with BTC or LTC were invited, they would want Karma to go in another direction.

If we had a forum where only those who got Karma by tips were invited, they would want Karma to go in another direction.

But we have all of these opinions right here, and I am 100% sure that we should only be listening to our target market's needs.

Unfortunately, they are not invited because we don't want them to participate. (This could easily be done, and should be obvious to anyone who knows about business, which is why I say we don't collectively want to have them participate.)

Having a conversation with your potential customers is essential. But somehow we don't see the need here. We make lame excuses why it can't be done, or should not be done now.

Perhaps in 6-12 months we will find out that we have been wasting a tremendous amount of time not focusing on the people that need something like Karma.

The best thing for the "new leadership" or revived team to do is simply ignore ~98% of the posts in these threads and forge ahead with what is truly important (actual users and their needs).

If we continue along the same path, doing the same things as other coins, Karma will probably die (as most of them tend to do because they do not do the above).

We have MBAs here whose opinions on this seem to be biased by them thinking of Karma like any other cryptocurrency, or perhaps biased by their own investment and their inherent need to see a gain they did not themselves realize with Bitcoin. (Again, most coins fail within 3 weeks. And most of the remaining will be dead in a year or less.)

The community that Karma needs to really push Karma forward is not here. That is why the 'leaders' of Karma should not be people involved in crypto but people like myself who know how business should be done.

-Most coins fail. Why follow them?
-Why try to make Karma like other coins?
-Karma is a business (one with heart). Why listen to people with no business experience?
-Crypto devs don't usually have business experience. Is there a wonder why nearly all of them fail?

What Karma needs are 2-3 experienced business leaders with a heart. Without concern for lining their own pockets with crypto profits. Crypto devs and those highly involved in the crypto world will most likely lead Karma nowhere.

We should do what has worked for other businesses for hundreds of years, because that is essentially what Karma is. You can then have an operation with a heart, like many do.
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