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September 13, 2014, 02:01:50 PM
Slowly organizing our TRELLO to reflect the various mini(but important) tasks.

If you joined us there, you may be INVITED(OFFERED)(REQUESTED) to take part in a task by being ADDED into a BOARD. You can always show your willingness or unwillingness to go with that particular item by leaving a comment, so that we can adjust the person responsible accordingly.

If it so happen that you are wrongly added in a group and would like to be transferred in another one. Just say the word.

As a community member complete some steps of a given task he can add his progress into a card so that everyone else can easily keep track of what has been done so far and what else are needed.

With a little effort from everyone, we can make this work. Go Karma!
hero member
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September 13, 2014, 01:38:52 PM
How is it possible that Kosmost is still involved?
He will damage it with his billions again, but it seems like
that everyone woh wants to know what happend is a troll.
 
hero member
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September 13, 2014, 01:23:56 PM
@Who

I see that there are discussions on the transition of some of Karma's hardware/servers/ and or trademark, Can you explain what sort of requirements there are to do these?

For example if a person is willing to handle these, what does he need. How can we be sure a person is competent for this sort of responsibility?


thanks.
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Creator of the ICO
September 13, 2014, 01:03:04 PM
Thanks to joymagic and allonething, and welcome to trello! We are currently organizing. This is a good step towards the right direction.

Nice job. I am impressed by your efforts and hope you continue to keep up the good work, as always Smiley

Tell me, would a current member of the Karma team like to take over any of the services? I just wonder why no one volunteered.

Per the message above, would anyone from the Karma team like to take over any of the Karma services?
hero member
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Creator of the ICO
September 13, 2014, 01:00:32 PM
Hi everyone,

Number of our coins is not really a problem, they can be made into 42 pieces and still do bad. Our actual problem with "Karma" at the moment is that it is registered to someone else. Which the community should own.

Now we have two options to resolve this,

1. pay the registrant with $600-$1000 and go on with our developments with Karma seeing there will be no legal battles ahead with the registration of the term.

2. Develop a new coin to replace karma. This is a much more involved, riskier route to take, but we can also take this opportunity to improve our coins' technical specs IF THERE ARE ANY THAT NEED IMPROVEMENT.

But then again, we still have to finish our reorganization EVEN before we talk about these kinds of issues. Or we will only waste all our time with issues that we cannot solve as a broken community.

My next post is about our intended protocol with trello,the project management interface, that if we can utilize properly, will give us a clearer view of the direction our coin and our community is taking. Thank you for a very good turn out of community who have already joined, maybe in 3 days we will completely have a working community.

Sorry, but are you talking about the "Karma" trademark for cryptocurrency?
hero member
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September 13, 2014, 12:35:00 PM
A TRELLO PREVIEW:


https://trello.com/home
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September 13, 2014, 12:22:18 PM

Proposed TRELLO PROJECT MANAGEMENT PROTOCOL

1. There are 6 GROUPS,

a. Coordinator Group (community members that will ensure the proper coordination of activities among all other groups of the community) PUBLIC BOARDS

b. Community Group  (Everyone will be added here when you enter TRELLO, this will be the group that will make sure that the needs, concerns, ideas expressed by karma users from our different communications channel are properly and timely addressed, this is very broad that is why everyone can surely have an active part. With this group, no Karma community member should feel neglected or ignored.) PUBLIC BOARDS

c. Developers Group (This is the group that will be responsible for the technical side of things about karma, maintenance of hardware support like servers and websites owned by Karma, softwares that needed to be done, etc.) PUBLIC/PRIVATE BOARDS

d. Business Development/Budget Group -(this group will be the group that will be responsible to brainstorm about the for-profit ventures that karma will get involved with. market discovery and development, application to other company to be accepted as a digital money for payment. This will also be the group that will keep track of the expenditures and profit Karma is having. PRIVATE/PUBLIC BOARDS

e. Human Resources Group (This group will be responsible for tracking community members interests and skills, to communicate them to the appropriate groups so that all potential skills and capacities can be harnessed to good use by the community. When we need a special set of skills this group will be responsible for timely headhunting.) PUBLIC BOARDS

f. Leaders' Group-Last but not the least, is the leaders' group, composed of 10 group leaders, 2 persons from each group to brainstorm, this will act as the executive committee to decide on the most important things regarding Karma. A proposal can be approved by a minimum of 3 group leaders, out of possible 5. Only the Group leaders can vote on an issue, his vote should represent the view of the members he have in his particular group. In the case of absence of the main group leader, his assistant group leader may cast a vote for him. PRIVATE BOARDS

(ALL GROUP'S BRIEF DESCRIPTION WILL BE EXPANDED LATER TO COVER EVERY ASPECT OF KARMA OPERATION)



This means that important issues in a particular field of interest, will be brought to the attention of Karma community thru their group leader, they will resolve every issue on their level. The consensus of the Group will be the decision regarding that and then the group leader will be the one to announce that decision to all other groups.

For example. ISSUE:Should we pay KARMA trademark registration of 600-1000 dollars (US)?
Since this involve expenditure, the group that will handle this will be Business Devt/Budget Group- 2 leaders and those who have the capacity and interest in this line. (hopefully at least there will be 5 members.

The decision of YES or NO to pay will then be announced to the whole community and how it will be implemented. In this way, we will cut down on the time it need to take action on a given task and move, it will also cut down the needed number of community to decide. Not to mention, unnecessary FUD and bickering on BTT where even an outsider can throw confusion on the topic being considered at the moment.



So while there is time and we are under reorganization, kindly say where your skill and interests lie in Karma.

In this arrangement we can effectively remove the possibility that any one person can wreck havoc on the whole Karma economy, by sharing responsibilities and information across, the sudden unavailability of someone will not halt karma activities.

We will then be done with stagnation and inaction. Good Karma to everyone. https://trello.com/easteagle13/recommend JOIN US Smiley


hero member
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September 13, 2014, 11:40:40 AM
Hi everyone,

Number of our coins is not really a problem, they can be made into 42 pieces and still do bad. Our actual problem with "Karma" at the moment is that it is registered to someone else. Which the community should own.

Now we have two options to resolve this,

1. pay the registrant with $600-$1000 and go on with our developments with Karma seeing there will be no legal battles ahead with the registration of the term.

2. Develop a new coin to replace karma. This is a much more involved, riskier route to take, but we can also take this opportunity to improve our coins' technical specs IF THERE ARE ANY THAT NEED IMPROVEMENT.

But then again, we still have to finish our reorganization EVEN before we talk about these kinds of issues. Or we will only waste all our time with issues that we cannot solve as a broken community.

My next post is about our intended protocol with trello,the project management interface, that if we can utilize properly, will give us a clearer view of the direction our coin and our community is taking. Thank you for a very good turn out of community who have already joined, maybe in 3 days we will completely have a working community.
hero member
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September 13, 2014, 11:21:16 AM
What this trello thing? I signed up for it, but there is nothing to see...

Same here... Trello is not very intuitive to use.

I think the boards are visible by invite only.
Who knows?

There is a very little learning curve with trello, the only set back I saw was that real time chat is not available. which will be very important at times of sudden crisis, where quick exchanges of communication is needed.

We will open almost all groups and boards except for maybe two. Later I will outline how we will operate using trello.
hero member
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September 13, 2014, 11:16:23 AM

You can respond by saying to which group would you like to be added?

Developers?
Marketing?
Community?
or
Business Development/Budget?

Welcome again lemfuture.

What's  community group for?

It is the group that will maintain healthy communication  with our growing (or diminishing)community members. Addressing their concerns and collecting ideas they may randomly throw with their comments on our different communication channels. Making sure that no one will feel neglected, or ignored.
legendary
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September 13, 2014, 10:03:40 AM
Who has the hand over the technical process of Karma?
Is ist still under your control Kosmost?

i , east and ryan do for now


kosmost still has control of the sites and has asked for some one to take it over. But since that does not involved about price talk it has not gotten any attention at all
http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,624.15.html


ironic. really. 
legendary
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September 13, 2014, 10:00:27 AM
and that is my point.. you are making a mountain out of a mole hill and looking in the wrong place for the solution to the Karma communities problems.

We need vendors so we can buy things with karma. That is the way forward.


How is at what i am trying to do prevent you from doing any of this?  You , alphi or the rest of the community.


moving to 92 mills might take up to 5 btcs fees and a month of the time.  Sure it going to be freaking exhausting and frustrating but after a months everything will be done for and we can focus on the main priority. Finding the market.

During this 7 months no one has brought any actual plans to bring vendors.



And if you had known anything about me then you would know i have always expressed my strong opinion about having to many coins and have always pushed for the cut.

So thanks a lot but i am not delusion. I am being realistic. You all speak like KARM will go to ASIA  just like that. with out any effort. And vendors will just suddenly pop up to because of the high demand of karma volumes and our massive user base!

No one in their right mind is going to take us seriously with this amount of coins. We do not have any budged. There has not been any "foundation" donation address. For 7 months probably 12 people have ever put up their own btcs to cover fees.

How do you expect to go to Asia when you have no one willing to put up the fess? it will be months and months before we even get organized enough to have a small plan.

I repeat my self. 7 months later yet your still attached to the features of a coins not designed to last this long.


if we had 92 million coin to start with and had the increasing spikes we had just before we got burned by the LLC , we would have been a very respectful coin and would have had tons of more supporters.


No one wants to touch us with so many coin in the market. Every dev we have spoken too also told us we have to many coin. HiroS, Soopy, DCgirl etc.

Well, there is a big , huge , elephant in the room and your all suggesting to brush it off.

If we keep this huge amount of coins. the moment we will pick  up momentum again we will get crashed by anyone dumping more then 400 mills.  I dont need PhD in it to see it happening all over again.

hero member
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September 13, 2014, 09:15:58 AM
Who has the hand over the technical process of Karma?
Is ist still under your control Kosmost?
newbie
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September 13, 2014, 07:51:28 AM

I'm on a holiday Smiley I hope you are enjoying yours too.

I just want to give the community a heads up about this:  http://www.cbsnews.com/news/extreme-solar-storm-streaking-towards-earth-scientists-say/ Somethings may or may not happen. my only point is, this kind of worldwide announcement/warning may give the evil authorities, the chance to wreck havoc in our lives because they can blame the resulting damages to nature.

They have the means to do these kinds of "natural disasters" and they have the motive of reducing the sheeples. They are always waiting for this kind of scapegoat events. Please do take proper precautions and protect your electronics from possible EMF's, that includes your HDD, mem cards, usb drives and etc.

I hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

Be safe guys.

(BTW those things that needed replies...Ill be doing them maybe around 6 hours later today Wink )

easteagle13 you others can you share cost effective way to protect USB (especially because where stored/cold wallets are, but also HDD's also GPU cards can be affected as well as ASIC) against EMF/EMP (if EMP will be used in addition by external)

appreciate it, and feel myself something is up



btw karma is great coin , great energy, since money is number one for many (and also there is plethora of alt coins in general) of course coin value will be affected but feel community is holding up also older generation as all know does not even know that crypto coins exists! its some % of the population and "the machine"  is just getting started, I say just keep at it, mine to increase hash rate and accumulate and/or tip build self aux apps, and/or write about it
hero member
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September 13, 2014, 05:11:38 AM

I'm on a holiday Smiley I hope you are enjoying yours too.

I just want to give the community a heads up about this:  http://www.cbsnews.com/news/extreme-solar-storm-streaking-towards-earth-scientists-say/ Somethings may or may not happen. my only point is, this kind of worldwide announcement/warning may give the evil authorities, the chance to wreck havoc in our lives because they can blame the resulting damages to nature.

They have the means to do these kinds of "natural disasters" and they have the motive of reducing the sheeples. They are always waiting for this kind of scapegoat events. Please do take proper precautions and protect your electronics from possible EMF's, that includes your HDD, mem cards, usb drives and etc.

I hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

Be safe guys.

(BTW those things that needed replies...Ill be doing them maybe around 6 hours later today Wink )
legendary
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Spectreproject Community Manager
September 13, 2014, 04:08:04 AM
........We don't need any more hype, no reboot, nothing.

We need vendors so we can buy things with karma. That is the way forward.


/\/\/\ This
monkeying around with the coin more will just result in same old same old.
It's really very simple as far as supply. To be of use as a currency, there has to be a lot of it.
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September 13, 2014, 01:21:19 AM
and that is my point.. you are making a mountain out of a mole hill and looking in the wrong place for the solution to the Karma communities problems.
Yeah I wonder why.

Someone in the field of psychology would say that Kosmost and Bitwho have control issues.

I am about to create a scraper to scrape this this forum-thread and show you how much kosmost's post count has increased since he killed the LLC (and almost the coin) because I don't think I have ever seen him so active.

He lost the deal, he killed the LLC, why not take some time off? Why keep blasting posts out. I also think Bitwho lost the plot. We don't need any more hype, no reboot, nothing.

We need vendors so we can buy things with karma. That is the way forward.
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September 13, 2014, 01:14:19 AM
If you want to give karma some time then give it some time.. people should stop running around like chickens with their heads cut off and start working on projects that actually use karma.
This is exactly what needs to happen! And by projects I mean really real projects, not new websites Smiley
hero member
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September 13, 2014, 12:35:39 AM
hey guys.

My wallet is out of sync and it showing 0 hours behind!
can someone help please.

http://karmacoin.me/download_wallets

download the latest wallet and relunch.

also note that the name changed into Karma .you might have an older version when it used to be called karmacoin

window location :
roaming/Karma

everything is in the OP.

if you do have the latest wallet. then leave the wallet open for at least 20 min. if it doesn't work. in the bottom of the main page there are instruction how to manually add some addnodes that will help you seed


+1 ..I was going to address this issue but you got there before me.. so thankyou
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September 13, 2014, 12:33:48 AM

your defending the coin structure of our coin that as it is now was created to be instamined. having billions of coin was made to be able to mine 100 mills of it to sell at 1 btc profit.

why are we 7 months later still holding tight to this bleeding settings.


I'm not defending the stupid decision to have the majority of coins mineable in the first year at all. you are conflating two issues.

the first issue is that too many coins were mined in the beginning.
the second issue is that there are too many zeroes

your proposal does not address the first issue at all.
the second issue is not really a big problem as long as the community stops fighting and keeps growing.

just look at south Korea.. one of the richest countries in asia.
their currency also has too many zeroes.

if you want to buy a bottle of coke it costs 1600 won.
in the US or Australia that's probably about $3.50 (the price of the coke not the conversion rate)

to the western eye.. south korea has about 3 more zeroes than it should have.

the reality is however that unless you are buying houses .. its not really a problem.

and that is my point.. you are making a mountain out of a mole hill and looking in the wrong place for the solution to the Karma communities problems.

so in that sense I say it is a pointless exercise and a waste of time and resources.


if you want another example just look at credit card points... I have to spend like 45,000 credit card points just to buy a toaster..
does that bother the average Joe that there are too many zeroes?  it doesn't seem to.

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