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hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 07:42:53 AM
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 250
September 11, 2014, 07:34:16 AM
I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.

I like this idea.
Anything that involves celebrities will give us a massive exposure.

We just need to be able to transmit a very clear idea about what is our objective before we have such a big exposure.
legendary
Activity: 1024
Merit: 1004
September 11, 2014, 07:32:19 AM


BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT/KARMA DISTRIBUTION GROUP LEADERS/SPEAKERS
This is one of the most important group, the source of all karma income that will ensure the success of Karma, Only the best should be the leaders here.
kosmost
Chargin
LittleDuke
cryptowho


The only way I would risk my reputation would be if this was rebooted in a legitimate and legal way.  

I think the notion of a member-owned LLC that purportedly is going to enrich its members is not at this time a viable option.

What I do have are resources and the legitimate non-profit Strength in Numbers Foundation in addition to the for profit "Vires in Numeris LLC" that is the holding company for doabitofgood.com.

I'm not anonymous -- you can find my bio at http://linkedin.com/in/dvduccini

So if you want to talk about doing this in a 120% transparent way, I'm interested.

Especially if there is a way to link the X11 based GIVEcoin chain into the mix.  I believe that all boats will rise.

Just my .02

-dvd
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
September 11, 2014, 07:25:52 AM
I probably could have used a better term than 'changing the world'. On reflection it could be read that I was belittling the efforts in SE Asia which was not my intention at all.

I think the reason the twitter and facebook tipbots thing is a good idea is that it is something that everyone can do straight away. It's a simple undertaking and it could bring a lot of people in who are new to crypto.

I appreciate another poster's views that there may not be a lot of pick up from people who are tipped. The whole thing obviously needs a little more thought.

One thing I have to comment on though is all this 'We need to find people who need Karma' stuff. Right now nobody needs Karma. Nobody.

Insisting on finding people who need Karma is a waste of time and energy.

I would strongly disagree with that.

Finding your market is the core purpose of any business. That is the nature of business: finding unmet consumer needs and filling those needs (or doing it better than others).

Can you imagine FedEx saying, "Insisting on finding people who need FedEx is a waste of time and energy"? Or any other product/service?

Yes, there are lots of people who need to transfer money (or other stores of value) from one place to another cheaply and efficiently. Many more than need crypto. That's why I say "Karma or something like Karma". Why not Karma?

Did anyone in Kenya "need" M-PESA before they came on the scene? Of course. Because the consumer need was there.

Tipping doesn't seem to be a good way to really grow an economy and a coin. Yes, tipping exists and has been around for a while. That's how we can tell it probably doesn't work (because it isn't proven to be successful). Did it work for Dogecoin? It may have destroyed their economy, as I mentioned before they blew up.

It's a fair point you make and you're obviously a well informed and talented guy. It's just my opinion that you have to make people want the coin before finding people who need it. Otherwise you have no leverage or credibility.

I don't see why the two have to be mutually exclusive however. If the team behind Karma can organise effectively then there are many different avenues that can be explored.

If nothing else then at least it's an interesting discussion.

hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 501
Creator of the ICO
September 11, 2014, 07:21:27 AM
Have you answered these??

a. Why do you love KARMA?
b. In the range of 1-10, 10 being in the top, TOP 100 richest KARMA holder. What number would you be??
c. What are you GOOD at, not necessarily very good, but something you do well. WHAT IS IT?
d. Do you want to stay and help KARMA and the community?? Reply with a yes or no.





LET ME ORGANIZE THINGS FOR THE MOMENT.

For a while until we have installed a new community-chosen groups leaders, let me coordinate things or I see things will not move.

Please consider these proposals and choose TWO(2) for every position:

FOR OVER ALL COORDINATORS  WE NEED TWO
This 2 persons will handle the coordination of all Karma related functions making sure everything is going as scheduled and are handled correctly. (mostly talk to persons involved)
Chargin
Cryptowho
p4r4m0unt
socoban
karmakaguy
Alphi
ptman
easteagle13


FOR DEVELOPERS GROUPS SPEAKERS/LEAD WE NEED TWO
This is a very important group that will ensure that Karma hardware and software support are maintained to their optimum, present and future software.
cryptowho
javijavier
socoban
ptman
learminer
ChulaLoca (FredDag)
karmakaguy
warfwarf


FOR COMMUNITY SPEAKERS/LEADERS WE NEED TWO
This 2 persons will handle BTTforum, FB, Twitter, karmawire, reddit and other official press and public announcements.
pdogg
cryptowho
Chargin
karmakaguy
mryusa
Bierworst
ryannguyen18
easteagle13


BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT/KARMA DISTRIBUTION GROUP LEADERS/SPEAKERS
This is one of the most important group, the source of all karma income that will ensure the success of Karma, Only the best should be the leaders here.
kosmost
Chargin
LittleDuke
cryptowho
 


HUMAN RESOURCES/BUDGET SPEAKERS/LEADERS WE NEED TWO
This group will handle the identification of future human resource for karma needs. This will also handle the release of funds for Karma projects, once all signatories have agreed in writing.
Only the trustworthy are worthy here.


Chargin
karmakaguy
Bierwors
Alphi
p4r4m0unt


The above lists of persons are only proposals, you can add yourself to any group and mark your vote by typing after the nick name the words : "MY CHOICE"

In case you don't want your name to be included on the list mark your own name with "I CANNOT DO THIS"

The community chosen speakers/leaders will then handle the day to day needs of Karma. They will receive compensation (TBA)
 according to their accomplishments. Coming from the working fund that will be given by the community, the fund will be stored in ESCROW and will only be released as needed per project.
The release of fund will be approved only when 1 leader from the 5 groups above have approve it. Any one of the two speakers/leaders may approve.

There are many capable and willing karma community members, the list above is not to exclude you, if ever you are willing to work for the community just reply here with what group do you want to belong.

Once the group leaders are installed and finalized, all community members will be divided among those five groups. This will ensure there will be enough people to attend to the all works needed for karma.

If you have another person that you want to propose for a position above please do say it.

All other that will not be leaders will automatically belong to the group they are listed above, and they can volunteer to be a member of other groups too.

Thanks for your participation, let us do these karma brothers.


As discussed, I will only be helping Karma with whatever services, websites, etc., need to be transitioned to someone else.

After that I will be a silent member of the community (as I still own Karma and intend to keep it until Karma finds its true market). I will likely check in every 2 or 3 months.

But for the moment, I am still here posting whatever I can.

Let's also not forget to post to our subreddit and keep that active. It's been dead for a while.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 501
Creator of the ICO
September 11, 2014, 07:17:15 AM
Take a minute to participate in this poll:

http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,624.msg3809.html#msg3809

(I am still not here;))

Please note that votes from 'members' of the Karma community who have never before posted anywhere will not be counted in this unofficial poll.

linking to a poll asking non-Karma community members to vote will invalidate those votes
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
September 11, 2014, 07:15:31 AM
I'm thinking of all sorts now.

I like the idea of a blog. Send Karma on twitter to celebrities/public figures who might be having a hard time/week. Follow it up with articles about the different situations.

Boom, celebrity blog integrated with Karma.

Readers get Karma for sharing/retweeting. Boom, viral marketing integrated with Karma.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 501
Creator of the ICO
September 11, 2014, 07:14:45 AM
I probably could have used a better term than 'changing the world'. On reflection it could be read that I was belittling the efforts in SE Asia which was not my intention at all.

I think the reason the twitter and facebook tipbots thing is a good idea is that it is something that everyone can do straight away. It's a simple undertaking and it could bring a lot of people in who are new to crypto.

I appreciate another poster's views that there may not be a lot of pick up from people who are tipped. The whole thing obviously needs a little more thought.

One thing I have to comment on though is all this 'We need to find people who need Karma' stuff. Right now nobody needs Karma. Nobody.

Insisting on finding people who need Karma is a waste of time and energy.

I would strongly disagree with that.

Finding your market is the core purpose of any business. That is the nature of business: finding unmet consumer needs and filling those needs (or doing it better than others).

Can you imagine FedEx saying, "Insisting on finding people who need FedEx is a waste of time and energy"? Or any other product/service?

Yes, there are lots of people who need to transfer money (or other stores of value) from one place to another cheaply and efficiently. Many more than need crypto. That's why I say "Karma or something like Karma". Why not Karma?

Did anyone in Kenya "need" M-PESA before they came on the scene? Of course. Because the consumer need was there.

Tipping doesn't seem to be a good way to really grow an economy and a coin. Yes, tipping exists and has been around for a while. That's how we can tell it probably doesn't work (because it isn't proven to be successful). Did it work for Dogecoin? It may have destroyed their economy, as I mentioned before they blew up.
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
September 11, 2014, 07:14:11 AM
Take a minute to participate in this poll:

http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,624.msg3809.html#msg3809

The current Karmafunds can be lookded up here:

http://www.karmafund.me/

(I am still not here;))
sr. member
Activity: 338
Merit: 250
September 11, 2014, 07:03:23 AM
Just sent 0.05 BTC  I am available for Karma but unfortunately my English is not very good
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
September 11, 2014, 06:59:49 AM
raising btc for what?
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 250
September 11, 2014, 06:52:01 AM
Just sent 0.0248 BTC Cool

hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 06:06:28 AM
is there a way to find out which top 10 address is from mintpal or cryptsy?

i think this block explorer allows tagging. we can tag which one is their addresses

Simplest way is to check if your deposit mintpal or cryptsy deposit address is part of a "guesstimated wallet", there is part of luck there, as taint builds up randomly, and some accounts may never get tainted, while others can get tainted in the next minute.

An alternative, which also involves luck, is to buy/deposit a bit, wait some time for your deposit to "see" a withdrawal (because its part of the exchange wallet, and someone else withdrew), then withdraw, and look if some of the withdrawal transaction inputs are part of a wallet.

A last alternative is to arbitrage: deposit in exchange 1 and 2, then arbitrage by trading the coin in exchange 1 & 2 vs another coin, and shuttle funds across exchanges to keep your deposits well funded. That builds a lot of taint for the exchange wallets, and is why coins which are the most arbitraged usually also have to most accurate guesstimated exchange wallets - but that means the coin must have at least two exchanges with volume.

tl,dr deposit and shuttle funds across exchanges repeatedly, after some time point your deposit addresses should get tainted, but "some time" can go from minutes and a single deposit/withdraw, to weeks... and dozens of deposit/withdraw ;-)

Thanks fairglu for that informative post, our payment is nearing completion, would we get any kind of receipt after payment, so that we can document the transaction properly? And will our payment allow us for the indefinite use of your services?
legendary
Activity: 1100
Merit: 1032
September 11, 2014, 05:49:57 AM
is there a way to find out which top 10 address is from mintpal or cryptsy?

i think this block explorer allows tagging. we can tag which one is their addresses

Simplest way is to check if your deposit mintpal or cryptsy deposit address is part of a "guesstimated wallet", there is part of luck there, as taint builds up randomly, and some accounts may never get tainted, while others can get tainted in the next minute.

An alternative, which also involves luck, is to buy/deposit a bit, wait some time for your deposit to "see" a withdrawal (because its part of the exchange wallet, and someone else withdrew), then withdraw, and look if some of the withdrawal transaction inputs are part of a wallet.

A last alternative is to arbitrage: deposit in exchange 1 and 2, then arbitrage by trading the coin in exchange 1 & 2 vs another coin, and shuttle funds across exchanges to keep your deposits well funded. That builds a lot of taint for the exchange wallets, and is why coins which are the most arbitraged usually also have to most accurate guesstimated exchange wallets - but that means the coin must have at least two exchanges with volume.

tl,dr deposit and shuttle funds across exchanges repeatedly, after some time point your deposit addresses should get tainted, but "some time" can go from minutes and a single deposit/withdraw, to weeks... and dozens of deposit/withdraw ;-)
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 04:47:28 AM
Hi guys, can somebody tell me whats Karmacoin TxFee for a transaction?

currently there's no fixed amount, but it is very low if ever there is. Except for those coming from the exchanges
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 04:45:58 AM
Have you answered these??

a. Why do you love KARMA?
b. In the range of 1-10, 10 being in the top, TOP 100 richest KARMA holder. What number would you be??
c. What are you GOOD at, not necessarily very good, but something you do well. WHAT IS IT?
d. Do you want to stay and help KARMA and the community?? Reply with a yes or no.





LET ME ORGANIZE THINGS FOR THE MOMENT.

For a while until we have installed a new community-chosen groups leaders, let me coordinate things or I see things will not move.

Please consider these proposals and choose TWO(2) for every position:

FOR OVER ALL COORDINATORS  WE NEED TWO
This 2 persons will handle the coordination of all Karma related functions making sure everything is going as scheduled and are handled correctly. (mostly talk to persons involved)
Chargin
Cryptowho
p4r4m0unt
socoban
karmakaguy
Alphi
ptman
easteagle13


FOR DEVELOPERS GROUPS SPEAKERS/LEAD WE NEED TWO
This is a very important group that will ensure that Karma hardware and software support are maintained to their optimum, present and future software.
cryptowho
javijavier
socoban
ptman
learminer
ChulaLoca (FredDag)
karmakaguy
warfwarf


FOR COMMUNITY SPEAKERS/LEADERS WE NEED TWO
This 2 persons will handle BTTforum, FB, Twitter, karmawire, reddit and other official press and public announcements.
pdogg
cryptowho
Chargin
karmakaguy
mryusa
Bierworst
ryannguyen18
easteagle13


BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT/KARMA DISTRIBUTION GROUP LEADERS/SPEAKERS
This is one of the most important group, the source of all karma income that will ensure the success of Karma, Only the best should be the leaders here.
kosmost
Chargin
LittleDuke
cryptowho
 


HUMAN RESOURCES/BUDGET SPEAKERS/LEADERS WE NEED TWO
This group will handle the identification of future human resource for karma needs. This will also handle the release of funds for Karma projects, once all signatories have agreed in writing.
Only the trustworthy are worthy here.


Chargin
karmakaguy
Bierwors
Alphi
p4r4m0unt


The above lists of persons are only proposals, you can add yourself to any group and mark your vote by typing after the nick name the words : "MY CHOICE"

In case you don't want your name to be included on the list mark your own name with "I CANNOT DO THIS"

The community chosen speakers/leaders will then handle the day to day needs of Karma. They will receive compensation (TBA)
 according to their accomplishments. Coming from the working fund that will be given by the community, the fund will be stored in ESCROW and will only be released as needed per project.
The release of fund will be approved only when 1 leader from the 5 groups above have approve it. Any one of the two speakers/leaders may approve.

There are many capable and willing karma community members, the list above is not to exclude you, if ever you are willing to work for the community just reply here with what group do you want to belong.

Once the group leaders are installed and finalized, all community members will be divided among those five groups. This will ensure there will be enough people to attend to the all works needed for karma.

If you have another person that you want to propose for a position above please do say it.

All other that will not be leaders will automatically belong to the group they are listed above, and they can volunteer to be a member of other groups too.

Thanks for your participation, let us do these karma brothers.

full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
September 11, 2014, 04:31:39 AM
Hi guys, can somebody tell me whats Karmacoin TxFee for a transaction?
sr. member
Activity: 257
Merit: 250
September 11, 2014, 04:03:41 AM
Wow, some real IMPRESSIVE donations going on here. Thank you everyone and to EAST for taking care of and managing this!
A big thanks to those that sent BTC as well today. This definitely qualifies as some of the more generous contributions I've seen in a while in such a short time (not taking the silly low price of Karma right now).

I can easily see 2 - 3x up tick in price from the 20 litoshi price I saw recently.
Certainly qouldn't hurt.
An extra helping of good Karma for the Karmaniacs ramping up the donations! 
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 11, 2014, 03:45:13 AM

UrsaMajorisBeta  thanks again for your donation, please don't forget to claim the karma tip I have given you on reddit.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
September 11, 2014, 03:16:48 AM

I probably could have used a better term than 'changing the world'. On reflection it could be read that I was belittling the efforts in SE Asia which was not my intention at all.

I think the reason the twitter and facebook tipbots thing is a good idea is that it is something that everyone can do straight away. It's a simple undertaking and it could bring a lot of people in who are new to crypto.

I appreciate another poster's views that there may not be a lot of pick up from people who are tipped. The whole thing obviously needs a little more thought.

One thing I have to comment on though is all this 'We need to find people who need Karma' stuff. Right now nobody needs Karma. Nobody.

Insisting on finding people who need Karma is a waste of time and energy.


Exactly the point! Anyway we all agree those people are our market, but it will take many steps further ahead.


The people you say "may need" karma, but first you must create the "WANT" factor. We choose to buy or use things daily from among many options, not because we need, most of the time because we want it.

Granted Philippines and Africa may need karma. Why?? Because karma can save them lots of money that's all.
but you have to factor in; accessibility, ease of use, security, knowledge and many other related issues...in order for them to choose karma over their usual utilities.

You say we can build the infrastructure at the same time, when we have identified our market. How long have you been saying that? If you have used the funding you have in LLC before, you don't have to worry on working on everything at the same time, when finally you found the market you speak of. Wouldn't it be ideal that the supporting softwares are already tested before you try to use it in real world market? Well, this is not how you wanted things. So you don't listen. And in fact, you wont understand my point for the same reason.

First create the want so you can serve the need. (You can only take a horse beside the water, the horse should want to drink it)

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