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When is the snapshot of BTCD for Komodo?
What is the best wallet to store my BTCD in for these purposes? Currently they are still on Poloniex.
Please advise, Regards

The snapshot will happen after the ICO, but there is no exact time yet. We will announce the exact block when it happens once it is decided.

If you want the REVS asset via the snapshot, then you must send your BTCD to a local wallet. Check out bitcoindark.com for instructions, and join #BTCD channel in SuperNET slack to get more info or if you have a problem.

For the KMD swap the funds can be sent from anywhere, even from an exchange.
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When is the snapshot of BTCD for Komodo?
What is the best wallet to store my BTCD in for these purposes? Currently they are still on Poloniex.
Please advise, Regards
sr. member
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Satinder Grewal gave an update about Komodo GUI!

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- Updated Komodo GUI to display both public and private address history on Komodo Wallet Dashboard, in pagination, and with search enabled for that history.
- Previous wallet info widgets moved to Komodo Settings section
- Komodo Send screen lists both public and private KMD address with balance in that address.

Next is:
- To link take values from send screen and trigger KMD Send command, which will allow sending transactions:
 -> Transparent Address to Transparent Address
 -> Transparent Address to Private Address
 -> Private Address to Private Address
 -> Private Address to Transparent Address
- Trigger Dashboard transaction history to show updated transaction,
- Show Protected Transactions status at Dashboard

I hope to get these to do task list done in day or two.

Here are updated screens:

KMD GUI dashboard 1


KMD GUI dashboard 2


KMD GUI send screen


KMD GUI settings screen

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I am not going to argue with you anymore. This is my last explanation. If you still cant understand it, I feel sorry for you.
Here is the conversation details for BTCD to KMD swap

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In order to simplify the BTCD to KMD swap, a fixed exchange rate of 1.0 BTCD to 0.00532074 BTC was established. This exchange rate was determined by adding a 50% bonus to the daily closing price average of August. The swapping process will take place after the ICO ends.

Average price in Aug = 0.00354716 BTC/BTCD
BTCD exchange rate =  0.00354716 * 1.5 = 0.00532074 BTC/BTCD
-> BTCD's are worth ~6846 BTC in the ICO [1 286 654 BTCD × 0.00532074 BTC/BTCD]




Oct. 15 -           25% bonus
Oct. 16-22 -      20% bonus
Oct. 23-29 -      15% bonus
Oct. 30-Nov 5 - 10% bonus
Nov 6-12 -         5% bonus
Nov 13-20 -       0% bonus

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So as of today with 5% Bonus available for anyone participating in ICO, BTCD to BTC fair rate should be 0.00532074 *1/1.05 = 0.00506 BTC/BTCD

Anyone wishing to participate in ICO can either pay
- 1 BTC or;
- Buy 1 BTC worth of BTCD at current exchange rate of  0.0042 and participate in ICO indirectly by just holding BTCD and get >15% Bonus instead of 5% you get with BTC

By buying BTCD instead of investing BTC in ICO ,not only you get the last of revshare dividend (whatever % it may be) you are also entitled to convert your BTCD to KMD in the next year. So even if there wont be any dividend on BTCD after this last one there is inherent value in BTCD. You can convert it to KMD at a fixed rate at any time in next year.

I dont know the exact percentage of revshare dividend but lets say it is 5%. then BTCD price may drop 5% after the dividend but that drop is irrelevant as you will have your 5% dividend instead. your remaining 95% BTCD worth is not based on any future dividend gains but solely on your right to convert it into KMD.



Why are you fluffing on about the bonus ... my point was 100% about the revshare (i.e. dividends) ... after the snapshot BTCD trades without revshare dividend entitlement, so is worth less, why would anybody try and argue otherwise ... are you drinking or choofing weed today?

edit: after the snapshot BTCD should trade close to the equivalent amount as for buying KMD with bitcoins on an exchange (rather than via the fixed swap rate), but this is crypto where zombie coins moon periodically, so I won't be surprised to see BTCD trade wildly after the snapshot
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I know one thing...I WILL get elected. If you are active on the testnet and update your node every time james is asking you to do, then we are the ONLY ones who can secure the Komodo network in the future. A Komodo network with inactive nodes/admins is useless and a one big security cheese.  

I can eat, read, sleep and shit James his code. I am not a coder, but i know what the output is telling me on the screen. I know how to handle problems and have 24/7 access to my network.

So I don't mind anymore, I sit back, relax and update my node when James is asking me to do so and at the end i will automatically see how I get elected
Because if I dont get elected, it will be a total farce..the komodo network

Let's make SuperNET GREAT again!!

=====BadAss TRUMP STYLE OUT=======

I know who I will vote my KMD for, I hope you back me as well.
But you can't grab my server's PCB because I had a wall built around them (and I made the provider pay for it too).
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This looks like a very promising project!

However, is there any point of investing BTC in the project at the moment instead of just investing in BTCD? I'm talking about 5% early bird BTC bonus vs 0.00412 BTCD/BTC current exchange rate.

Invest with BTCD. Not only you get better cost benefit, but you can also bail out of the ICO anytime (i.e. before KMD is launched and is on exchange) by just selling BTCD again. It is like buying in a refundable ICO.

Be careful, after the rev share snapshot is taken BTCD will be worth less

Nope. Get your facts right. BTCD can be swapped to KMD (anytime at a fixed rate) from the launch of KMD till 1 year.

Are you saying BTCD bought after the revshare snapshot & then swapped at the fixed rate has equal value to BTCD swapped at fixed rate but WITH revshare entitlement? You don't understand



I understand it very well. You don't get it. So as per your thinking after 5% dividend APPLE's share will be worth less?

It will be worth 5% less because you already got the remainder 5% as dividend.

So BTCD price may drop few percent after the revshare dividend but the drop should makeup for it by getting paid the dividend.  



You're not making sense now (Yes, an APPLE share sold without dividend entitlement is worth zero), I said after the revshare snapshot BTCD will be worth less than before (i.e. before snapshot it's worth the fixed rate plus whatever the revshare is worth, after the snapshot it's only worth the fixed rate). That is a fact! What BTCD actually trades for after the snapshot is anyone's guess - I'm talking about 'value' or as I said "worth"

I am not going to argue with you anymore. This is my last explanation. If you still cant understand it, I feel sorry for you.
Here is the conversation details for BTCD to KMD swap

-----------------------------

In order to simplify the BTCD to KMD swap, a fixed exchange rate of 1.0 BTCD to 0.00532074 BTC was established. This exchange rate was determined by adding a 50% bonus to the daily closing price average of August. The swapping process will take place after the ICO ends.

Average price in Aug = 0.00354716 BTC/BTCD
BTCD exchange rate =  0.00354716 * 1.5 = 0.00532074 BTC/BTCD
-> BTCD's are worth ~6846 BTC in the ICO [1 286 654 BTCD × 0.00532074 BTC/BTCD]




Oct. 15 -           25% bonus
Oct. 16-22 -      20% bonus
Oct. 23-29 -      15% bonus
Oct. 30-Nov 5 - 10% bonus
Nov 6-12 -         5% bonus
Nov 13-20 -       0% bonus

------------------

So as of today with 5% Bonus available for anyone participating in ICO, BTCD to BTC fair rate should be 0.00532074 *1/1.05 = 0.00506 BTC/BTCD

Anyone wishing to participate in ICO can either pay
- 1 BTC or;
- Buy 1 BTC worth of BTCD at current exchange rate of  0.0042 and participate in ICO indirectly by just holding BTCD and get >15% Bonus instead of 5% you get with BTC

By buying BTCD instead of investing BTC in ICO ,not only you get the last of revshare dividend (whatever % it may be) you are also entitled to convert your BTCD to KMD in the next year. So even if there wont be any dividend on BTCD after this last one there is inherent value in BTCD. You can convert it to KMD at a fixed rate at any time in next year.

I dont know the exact percentage of revshare dividend but lets say it is 5%. then BTCD price may drop 5% after the dividend but that drop is irrelevant as you will have your 5% dividend instead. your remaining 95% BTCD worth is not based on any future dividend gains but solely on your right to convert it into KMD.

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Through how many after the ICO, the coin will be released on the exchange?

We will distribute the coins ~ 2 weeks after the ICO. We don't know when the exchanges will list us, you will have to ask them about it!

How much time will be allowed for the BTCD swap after the ICO? Since distribution is planned within 2 weeks of the ICO, all BTCD swaps should be completed before that right?

You will be able to swap to get the coins at the same time as everyone else.

We will reserve enough KMD so we are able to swap every BTCD. The BTCD can be swapped at any time for one full year.

Thanks for the reply. Obviously not all of the BTCD will be swapped since some will be lost etc. So what would happen to the remaining KMD supply reserved for BTCD swaps?

They would be used as working capital for development.

I'm all for more development capital as I'm sure a big budget can mean better development and marketing. However, I do hope the number of BTCD that is not swapped wont be too high. If I have my calculations right, if 20% of the BTCD is not swapped, that could mean an extra 12% with the devs (above the already reserved 10%) which means ICO investors are only investing in only 78% of the supply which is a bit concerning to me as an investor.

The thing is nobody knows how many BTCD will not be swapped. It might be too low or too high. In the second case you are right, it will affect the ICO supply. Maybe a part of the capital could be given to ICO investors, if its too high? Just a thought.

Ideally, that should be the case, yes. The KMD team should announce a cap on reserved KMD that will go to the devs.
sr. member
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This looks like a very promising project!

However, is there any point of investing BTC in the project at the moment instead of just investing in BTCD? I'm talking about 5% early bird BTC bonus vs 0.00412 BTCD/BTC current exchange rate.

Invest with BTCD. Not only you get better cost benefit, but you can also bail out of the ICO anytime (i.e. before KMD is launched and is on exchange) by just selling BTCD again. It is like buying in a refundable ICO.

Be careful, after the rev share snapshot is taken BTCD will be worth less

Nope. Get your facts right. BTCD can be swapped to KMD (anytime at a fixed rate) from the launch of KMD till 1 year.

Are you saying BTCD bought after the revshare snapshot & then swapped at the fixed rate has equal value to BTCD swapped at fixed rate but WITH revshare entitlement? You don't understand



I understand it very well. You don't get it. So as per your thinking after 5% dividend APPLE's share will be worth less?

It will be worth 5% less because you already got the remainder 5% as dividend.

So BTCD price may drop few percent after the revshare dividend but the drop should makeup for it by getting paid the dividend.  



You're not making sense now (Yes, an APPLE share sold without dividend entitlement is worth zero), I said after the revshare snapshot BTCD will be worth less than before (i.e. before snapshot it's worth the fixed rate plus whatever the revshare is worth, after the snapshot it's only worth the fixed rate). That is a fact! What BTCD actually trades for after the snapshot is anyone's guess - I'm talking about 'value' or as I said "worth"
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This looks like a very promising project!

However, is there any point of investing BTC in the project at the moment instead of just investing in BTCD? I'm talking about 5% early bird BTC bonus vs 0.00412 BTCD/BTC current exchange rate.

Invest with BTCD. Not only you get better cost benefit, but you can also bail out of the ICO anytime (i.e. before KMD is launched and is on exchange) by just selling BTCD again. It is like buying in a refundable ICO.

Be careful, after the rev share snapshot is taken BTCD will be worth less

Nope. Get your facts right. BTCD can be swapped to KMD (anytime at a fixed rate) from the launch of KMD till 1 year.

Are you saying BTCD bought after the revshare snapshot & then swapped at the fixed rate has equal value to BTCD swapped at fixed rate but WITH revshare entitlement? You don't understand



I understand it very well. You don't get it. So as per your thinking after 5% dividend APPLE's share will be worth less?

It will be worth 5% less because you already got the remainder 5% as dividend.

So BTCD price may drop few percent after the revshare dividend but the drop should makeup for it by getting paid the dividend.  

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sr. member
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This looks like a very promising project!

However, is there any point of investing BTC in the project at the moment instead of just investing in BTCD? I'm talking about 5% early bird BTC bonus vs 0.00412 BTCD/BTC current exchange rate.

Invest with BTCD. Not only you get better cost benefit, but you can also bail out of the ICO anytime (i.e. before KMD is launched and is on exchange) by just selling BTCD again. It is like buying in a refundable ICO.

Be careful, after the rev share snapshot is taken BTCD will be worth less

Nope. Get your facts right. BTCD can be swapped to KMD (anytime at a fixed rate) from the launch of KMD till 1 year.

Are you saying BTCD bought after the revshare snapshot & then swapped at the fixed rate has equal value to BTCD swapped at fixed rate but WITH revshare entitlement? You don't understand

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www.neutroncoin.com
Great to see the project is coming along.
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Bulletproof VPS/VPN/Email @ BadAss.Sx
I'm voting for BadAss because I know he will grab his servers by the PCB

If PCB is a good thing, then you are welcome in the BadAss Komodo Movement

Let's make SuperNET GREAT again!!
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=====TRUMP STYLE=======

I know one thing...I WILL get elected. If you are active on the testnet and update your node every time james is asking you to do, then we are the ONLY ones who can secure the Komodo network in the future. A Komodo network with inactive nodes/admins is useless and a one big security cheese. 

I can eat, read, sleep and shit James his code. I am not a coder, but i know what the output is telling me on the screen. I know how to handle problems and have 24/7 access to my network.

So I don't mind anymore, I sit back, relax and update my node when James is asking me to do so and at the end i will automatically see how I get elected
Because if I dont get elected, it will be a total farce..the komodo network :wink:

Let's make SuperNET GREAT again!!

=====TRUMP STYLE OUT=======

I'm voting for BadAss because I know he will grab his servers by the PCB
legendary
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Bulletproof VPS/VPN/Email @ BadAss.Sx
=====BadAss TRUMP STYLE=======

I know one thing...I WILL get elected. If you are active on the testnet and update your node every time james is asking you to do, then we are the ONLY ones who can secure the Komodo network in the future. A Komodo network with inactive nodes/admins is useless and a one big security cheese.  

I can eat, read, sleep and shit James his code. I am not a coder, but i know what the output is telling me on the screen. I know how to handle problems and have 24/7 access to my network.

So I don't mind anymore, I sit back, relax and update my node when James is asking me to do so and at the end i will automatically see how I get elected
Because if I dont get elected, it will be a total farce..the komodo network

Let's make SuperNET GREAT again!!

=====BadAss TRUMP STYLE OUT=======
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move that crypto
SuperNET has made roughly 600+ BTC profit in 2016 from just 3 ico investments: Iota, Waves, Stratis

Heat investment will be profitable as well, it was a real sleeper ico with only ~1000 BTC equivalent raised.

Komodo is the next winner in the winning streak.

 - Zcash anon tech secured by Bitcoin's hashrate

-  Powerful notary nodes that all act as full nodes for several coins and assets (including BTC) provide infrastructure to support decentralized exchange

Imagine decentralized poloniex with zsnark anonymity that is secured by bitcoin's hashrate.

KMD will be very valuable as the fuel for this system.
hero member
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This looks like a very promising project!

However, is there any point of investing BTC in the project at the moment instead of just investing in BTCD? I'm talking about 5% early bird BTC bonus vs 0.00412 BTCD/BTC current exchange rate.

Invest with BTCD. Not only you get better cost benefit, but you can also bail out of the ICO anytime (i.e. before KMD is launched and is on exchange) by just selling BTCD again. It is like buying in a refundable ICO.

Be careful, after the rev share snapshot is taken BTCD will be worth less

Nope. Get your facts right. BTCD can be swapped to KMD (anytime at a fixed rate) from the launch of KMD till 1 year.
sr. member
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This looks like a very promising project!

However, is there any point of investing BTC in the project at the moment instead of just investing in BTCD? I'm talking about 5% early bird BTC bonus vs 0.00412 BTCD/BTC current exchange rate.

Invest with BTCD. Not only you get better cost benefit, but you can also bail out of the ICO anytime (i.e. before KMD is launched and is on exchange) by just selling BTCD again. It is like buying in a refundable ICO.

Be careful, after the rev share snapshot is taken BTCD will be worth less
hero member
Activity: 545
Merit: 500
This looks like a very promising project!

However, is there any point of investing BTC in the project at the moment instead of just investing in BTCD? I'm talking about 5% early bird BTC bonus vs 0.00412 BTCD/BTC current exchange rate.

Invest with BTCD. Not only you get better cost benefit, but you can also bail out of the ICO anytime (i.e. before KMD is launched and is on exchange) by just selling BTCD again. It is like buying in a refundable ICO.
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