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Alternative solution:


Let every bitcointalk forum member with a rank higher than "Member" provide one airdrop address, and then "airdrop" 10 BTX to that address. (We will anyway not get more than 1000 user by this forum, so the airdrop should be smaller but fairer) This way you can more or less assure a fair distribution without concentration to whales.

Edit: The criteria could also be, that only an address with atleast 1 BTX coin inside is eligible for the airdrop, thus you can be sure that the person contributed to the coin either by

  • Mining
  • Claiming
  • Marketbuy
also this is a nice idea using forum to have an unique address and making multiple account will be only a waste of time
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
It's quite a difficult decision und you can't be everybody's darling.

trust me. a little miner (like me) got only 0.1-1 BTX in 1-2 weeks...

As nobody asked the responsible question   Roll Eyes
With what are you mining?
Even with a single low end desktop graphics card you should have gained more BTX in 1-2 weeks.
If it's not your hardware change your pool. and/or software.

A single 750Ti (ebay 10-20$) would have made you, with the lowered rate of the last 24h, above 4 BTX in 2 weeks,
I checked it my Rigs mining in the last 24h,there were three 750Ti in them and calculated it by the one with overall lowest hash rate.
Just to add:
I reduced my BTX-mining about 24h ago to 60-80MHs and changed pool and still have 6 BTX in the last 24h on the new pool
That's equal to a rig with 7 GTX1050Ti non overclocked @ 12.8 MH/s and there are definitely better suited cards.

I saw you @suprnova couple of days ago, you were mining some blocks back there! Mind to share what pool are you talking about? Cheers

I've nothing to hide for my current alias ^^  
It was just a test run the last days which pool is better suited for me: yiimp.ccminer or suprnova.
In my case it looks like yiimp but we are talking about 15% difference mostly due to my test rigs use LTE.
-> higher latency
My rigs, despite mixing, don't like the higher occurrence of difficulty jumps on suprnova.
They could adjust the amount and occurrence fairly easily but they probably have their reasons as others would suffer.
I don't want to troll about my reasons for LTE, so upfront:
my Test-rigs have a primary use -> generating heat
Which pays for their Power and they have to be mobile for that. -> Business opportunity Wink
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Have faith folks

this is a solid coin with a solid dev team that's sitting at 200k market cap.

let that sink in for a second. active new coin and team with a 200k market cap.

Then also take into consideration that they are implementing new tech and active development.


think about it...

full member
Activity: 203
Merit: 100
it's simple.
the only way to increase users is damaging exchangers and cheaters.
and i remain about my idea to don't make the giveaway to address with transaction in last X days.
exchangers will be fucked off.
and people will try to increase their balance as much as possible to collect them.
lower btx circulating = higher price to buy them.
higher price = someone could decide to sell their and ignoring the giveaway.
trading will not suffer so much. (the volume is already low currently. so who care it)

giveaways will end at a certain point so i don't see the problem for who think that giving free coins is a damage.
all people who don't like this system is only because they want to profit abusing the system.
reward balanced to all people is better than to few people.
you don't like = you are the ones that want to abuse it probably.

remember that the coin is live cause people using it. if 3-4 people control it enjoy it and say goodbye.
it's ok to make rich people richer. but it's also ok to make poor people richer.
if you keep having the top 1000 method you will fail soon...

think yourself. this is a pure consideration. and people who really care about this coin know i am right.

I agree with you but on the other hand we still need a volume from exchanger. Demand and supply basics.
member
Activity: 157
Merit: 10
it's simple.
the only way to increase users is damaging exchangers and cheaters.
and i remain about my idea to don't make the giveaway to address with transaction in last X days.
exchangers will be fucked off.
and people will try to increase their balance as much as possible to collect them.
lower btx circulating = higher price to buy them.
higher price = someone could decide to sell their and ignoring the giveaway.
trading will not suffer so much. (the volume is already low currently. so who care it)

giveaways will end at a certain point so i don't see the problem for who think that giving free coins is a damage.
all people who don't like this system is only because they want to profit abusing the system.
reward balanced to all people is better than to few people.
you don't like = you are the ones that want to abuse it probably.

remember that the coin is live cause people using it. if 3-4 people control it enjoy it and say goodbye.
it's ok to make rich people richer. but it's also ok to make poor people richer.
if you keep having the top 1000 method you will fail soon...

think yourself. this is a pure consideration. and people who really care about this coin know i am right.
legendary
Activity: 1474
Merit: 1087
Sorry but I don't get it. The metric you're using like Top XXXX adresses can't really work. By switching from fixed 10BTX to 2,5% you are just doing the same as before without needing the current big stakeholders to distribute their coins to many adresses, which wasn't very hard because of the currently low transaction fees.
In my opinion you don't need to change the kind of payout mechanism. There has to be change in how to determine the "winners", if your aim would be to broaden the userbase. Are you discussing this internally?

I am open for every fair solution.

Kind Regards Christian

You definitely need to decouple the airdrop from any blockchain based rich-list. It will always get gamed by the whales who were feed up even more in the two last air drops.


Alternative solution:


Let every bitcointalk forum member with a rank higher than "Member" provide one airdrop address, and then "airdrop" 10 BTX to that address. (We will anyway not get more than 1000 user by this forum, so the airdrop should be smaller but fairer) This way you can more or less assure a fair distribution without concentration to whales.

Edit: The criteria could also be, that only an address with atleast 1 BTX coin inside is eligible for the airdrop, thus you can be sure that the person contributed to the coin either by

  • Mining
  • Claiming
  • Marketbuy
full member
Activity: 266
Merit: 101
Bitcore (BTX) - The Future is Now
Without investors this coin would worth a penny,

This is crypto, this is money world, if you dont understand that, just go work.
It's not about lurking or getting more, it's just the actual system was too easy to be abused.
And sorry for the sucker punch, but this is a board, this is people discussing better solutions, if you don't understand it, just go investing in fiat. Crypto is also about progress.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1004
No risk, no fun!
Hey fans,

I see, the airdrop is high and hard discussed. Thats fine. Exact these kind of discussion is well needed. We have an overview over all your really nice inspirations and thoughts.

Chris already decided, to change that airdrop behaviour. He announced it here already. Lets see now, how the next round will work.

In the end, I love it, how you discuss here. I hope, that you always follow the rules of respect and fairplay.

Greetz
Steve

newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
hashrate is dropping like a stone. From over 17GH/s to now around 5.6GH/s. Since the diff is over 730 and difficulty recalculation only happens every 2000 blocks or so, block times are very high now.
This also leads to way less coins miners can earn, and most likely more will stop mining, meaning the block times will rise even higher.
I bet big miners will join back in when the difficulty has been adjusted again.

As for the airdrops: Sorry, but this round was a complete joke. Even worse than the first one.
Again, it was highly abused, and seeing at least two wallets with over 100 addresses in the top 1000 clearly shows that the airdrops are gamed by a few.
Most coins in the hands of a few makes the possibility of a dump much higher...

In my opinion, the only 'fair' solution (if you really want to stick to that 1000 top holders thing) would be to have some kind of a variable percentage paid to the top 1000.
For example (don't nail me down on the numbers, just an example):

Top 1-100 gets 3%
Top 101-201 gets 2.9%
Top 301-401 gets 2.8%
...

That way you would force ppl to stack their coins in one address to get the highest possible reward, leaving room for other ppl to join the Top 1000. Of course some extremely rich a$$hole could still split his coins, just to pi$$ off ppl, but that would be just idiotic...

Without investors this coin would worth a penny,

This is crypto, this is money world, if you dont understand that, just go work.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Those noobs who have 1$ and wanna race holder's. Nooh Nooh.

Wanna get some, deposit some, or just go lurking other place,

AirDrop is fair for everyone, invest or get lots. Ofcaure you aint get a shix

With your 1$ invested.
legendary
Activity: 914
Merit: 1001
hashrate is dropping like a stone. From over 17GH/s to now around 5.6GH/s. Since the diff is over 730 and difficulty recalculation only happens every 2000 blocks or so, block times are very high now.
This also leads to way less coins miners can earn, and most likely more will stop mining, meaning the block times will rise even higher.
I bet big miners will join back in when the difficulty has been adjusted again.

As for the airdrops: Sorry, but this round was a complete joke. Even worse than the first one.
Again, it was highly abused, and seeing at least two wallets with over 100 addresses in the top 1000 clearly shows that the airdrops are gamed by a few.
Most coins in the hands of a few makes the possibility of a dump much higher...

In my opinion, the only 'fair' solution (if you really want to stick to that 1000 top holders thing) would be to have some kind of a variable percentage paid to the top 1000.
For example (don't nail me down on the numbers, just an example):

Top 1-100 gets 3%
Top 101-201 gets 2.9%
Top 301-401 gets 2.8%
...

That way you would force ppl to stack their coins in one address to get the highest possible reward, leaving room for other ppl to join the Top 1000. Of course some extremely rich a$$hole could still split his coins, just to pi$$ off ppl, but that would be just idiotic...
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
It's quite a difficult decision und you can't be everybody's darling.

trust me. a little miner (like me) got only 0.1-1 BTX in 1-2 weeks...

As nobody asked the responsible question   Roll Eyes
With what are you mining?
Even with a single low end desktop graphics card you should have gained more BTX in 1-2 weeks.
If it's not your hardware change your pool. and/or software.

A single 750Ti (ebay 10-20$) would have made you, with the lowered rate of the last 24h, above 4 BTX in 2 weeks,
I checked it my Rigs mining in the last 24h,there were three 750Ti in them and calculated it by the one with overall lowest hash rate.
Just to add:
I reduced my BTX-mining about 24h ago to 60-80MHs and changed pool and still have 6 BTX in the last 24h on the new pool
That's equal to a rig with 7 GTX1050Ti non overclocked @ 12.8 MH/s and there are definitely better suited cards.
member
Activity: 97
Merit: 10
It is still possible mine with CPU?

Or difficult is already so high to mine with CPU?

I never mine using timetravel so i don't know the average  hashes on CPU.
hero member
Activity: 750
Merit: 601
A couple of one-liners that may help some people
(You need curl & jq installed - this is for MacOS or Linux, it will need a little tweaking for windows)

jq is on github - it's a command line json parser


This will show you the 1000th item in the rich list
Code:
curl http://chainz.cryptoid.info/btx/api.dws?q=rich |  jq '.rich1000[999]'


This gives you a list of the top 1000 addresses
Code:
curl http://chainz.cryptoid.info/btx/api.dws?q=rich  | jq '.rich1000[].amount' | less -N
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1014
I don't understand what the problem is with cryptopia.
Volume.
member
Activity: 131
Merit: 10
this coin needs to urgently get on to a decent exchange before its too late.

There is nothing wrong with cryptopia, I bought several times, several coins, withdraw happened in under 2 minutes every time, I don't understand what the problem is with cryptopia.
As far as i see, cryptopia is perfect, never had any problems.
hero member
Activity: 908
Merit: 503
this coin needs to urgently get on to a decent exchange before its too late.

There is nothing wrong with cryptopia, I bought several times, several coins, withdraw happened in under 2 minutes every time, I don't understand what the problem is with cryptopia.
member
Activity: 131
Merit: 10
thats true for the sake of convenience
but previously if i have 50 BTX i will get 10 from airdrop
going forward if i have 50 BTX i will get 1.25 for airdrop

this reduce the reward factor massively for the smaller people
 unless you are a whale there is less motivation to stay in so it maybe
harder to grow the userbase

I know, myself i was not in top 1000 two times, unlucky Cheesy Smiley
This was a mistake, everyone see that, but by trying to fix the inequality it would potentially cause more damage to this currency value, especially because wallet addresses are anonymous.
Everyone wants to be a winner, myself as well, but this is what we have.
And like i told, if airdrops will be concentrated to wallets, not people, this currency will suffer long term, but people will move on.
Even those who have the most BTX will suffer more, because who will use the currency if only the top has everything? It will be self destructive. Cheesy Cheesy
But still, i don't see a disaster. Mistakes are like lessons, we keep repeating the same lesson until we learn from it.
I know how it feels, but we cant change the block-chain past, only the future..
Dev of this currency told that, he is open to new ideas or possibilities.. So lets offer some if we have.  
sr. member
Activity: 2184
Merit: 422
this coin needs to urgently get on to a decent exchange before its too late.
sr. member
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Merit: 251
That with the addition of on Bitrex?
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