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Quote from: AntiTector on July 03, 2017, 10:37:24 AM

I am watching this coin for some time. I see a good potential.
Remember that this is just the beginning of Block-chain crypto-currency era, that would potentially replace the major systems we use today.
People please share your ideas, insights, because we are in this together!
Without ideas, insights or opinions, this or any other currency is DEAD!
Who knows, maybe You have a simply brilliant idea that would shake the ground of this currency... But only you can read your mind..

My insights
About the airdrops:
The airdrops should be concentrated to those wallets, that have the most BTX.
Airdrops should not promote splitting BTX's to many different addresses, it should promote holding all your BTX's in one secure wallet address.
Airdrops should be concentrated personally to people, not to addresses, because PEOPLE gonna use BTX, not wallets or wallet addresses.
The more people who are winners with this currency, the more people it attracts. The more people know about BTX, the better it is to all.
The upcoming Airdrop in Monday (2.5%), is really better than last two airdrops before, because more people will be involved.
What's done is done, lets keep looking forward!

thats true for the sake of convenience
but previously if i have 50 BTX i will get 10 from airdrop
going forward if i have 50 BTX i will get 1.25 for airdrop

this reduce the reward factor massively for the smaller people
unless you are a whale there is less motivation to stay in so it maybe
harder to grow the userbase

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I am watching this coin for some time. I see a good potential.
Remember that this is just the beginning of Block-chain crypto-currency era, that would potentially replace the major systems we use today.
People please share your ideas, insights, because we are in this together!
Without ideas, insights or opinions, this or any other currency is DEAD!
Who knows, maybe You have a simply brilliant idea that would shake the ground of this currency... But only you can read your mind..

My insights
About the airdrops:
The airdrops should be concentrated to those wallets, that have the most BTX.
Airdrops should not promote splitting BTX's to many different addresses, it should promote holding all your BTX's in one secure wallet address.
Airdrops should be concentrated personally to people, not to addresses, because PEOPLE gonna use BTX, not wallets or wallet addresses.
The more people who are winners with this currency, the more people it attracts. The more people know about BTX, the better it is to all.
The upcoming Airdrop in Monday (2.5%), is really better than last two airdrops before, because more people will be involved, but it still needs improvement.
What's done is done, lets keep looking forward!

**Edited

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It should be about 15 to 20 % limx dev because if you had 50 btx before you get 10 its 60 now if one has 50 btx in account he will only get 1.25 btx thats nowhere near airdrop that occured last man.And will it be same in november?It will only benefit top 50

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Quote from: marco89 on July 03, 2017, 08:56:21 AM

trust me. a little miner (like me) got only 0.1-1 BTX in 1-2 weeks...
so what is the sense of it?
they can mine other coins and than excanging for BTX. (it's cheaper and faster)
and real miner with many MH/s-GH/s won't die for that and they simply can move balance every X days.
if you want to cut out exchanger and unfair people i am sure this will be a nice solution.
we could make a voting. and i am sure that little users will agree with me (and i am sure also bigger users)

for who think i say this only for my own interest consider that i'm a medium user with a medium balance
i tried mining btx (with medium devices) and it was a waste of time/money.
i am getting more btx mining Aeon/Xmr reselling them for BTX so i know what i'm talking.
and in this way you increase the exchanging request because people want to store much more coin possible.

Ok, this is really damn small. I thought from my perspetice with 1 x GTI 1080 Ti in my gaming rig, with 2 days ago about 4-6 BTX, as a little one

At the moment it's only between 1-2BTX and I'm back to mining multialgo because it's way more profitable.
With the thresholds set to 30 BTX and 14days, I could nearly never take advantage of the interests. So my idea was that your thresholds would scare let's say medium miners away. If I can mine the coin directly as profitable as others I like to take that road because no need to hassle with buying/selling. As long as there is not anything as simple as shapeshift.io (or any service alike) to change to btx for a reasonable price, hence by trading you normally lose money

But ok, this is quite more specific to the attractiveness of mining itself. At all I favor your proposal of of giving away interest for every account above X.

There must be a lower limit because at some point the transaction fees are eating up your giveaway, I think.

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Quote from: marco89 on July 03, 2017, 08:13:02 AM

Quote from: Limx Dev on July 03, 2017, 06:52:59 AM

I am open for every fair solution.
Kind Regards Christian

as said in previous post an idea for giveaway could be to give a % of BTX to all wallet that have a minimum of X BTX (i.e. 30 btx) but with the particular condition of no transactions in last 10/15 days.
in this way:
1- you will also cut out the mining address and exchanger addresses.
2- the request (and price) will increase because people will store as many btx as possible to get the %.
3- attract new user because the dev is assuring (or anyway tring to assure) a fair play system for giveaway.
4- you will cut out the shitty splitters that made transaction only for the giveaway in the last minutes/hours
so if someone collect some btx (suppose 50-100) he will store them in a new address (avoiding to wait 10/15 more days transferring to his main address)

and for who say that waiting the 10 days could be a negative thing consider that it is a negative thing for all (and let's say... is it really so much waiting 10/15 days?)

1. No-transaction limit is completely in contraddiction of the reason to be of a coin, ie to be used.
2. With No-transaction limit whales would just split once and then never move their coins again and get new coins every week
3. No clear why there should be a limit of 30BTX

However, if you want to motivate people to have more coins you could introduce a progressive return, ie people with more coins receive more than the ones with less (make the rich richer) - but expanding the user base is even more important, so i think something should be given also to people who rank lower than top 1000

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Quote from: minestro on July 03, 2017, 08:50:35 AM

It's quite a difficult decision und you can't be everybody's darling.

trust me. a little miner (like me) got only 0.1-1 BTX in 1-2 weeks...
so what is the sense of it?
they can mine other coins and than excanging for BTX. (it's cheaper and faster)
and real miner with many MH/s-GH/s won't die for that and they simply can move balance every X days.
if you want to cut out exchanger and unfair people i am sure this will be a nice solution.
we could make a voting. and i am sure that little users will agree with me (and i am sure also bigger users)

for who think i say this only for my own interest consider that i'm a medium user with a medium balance
i tried mining btx (with medium devices) and it was a waste of time/money.
i am getting more btx mining Aeon/Xmr reselling them for BTX so i know what i'm talking.
and in this way you increase the exchanging request because people want to store much more coin possible.

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Quote from: marco89 on July 03, 2017, 08:32:49 AM

Quote from: minestro on July 03, 2017, 08:27:04 AM

Quote from: marco89 on July 03, 2017, 08:13:02 AM

Quote from: Limx Dev on July 03, 2017, 06:52:59 AM

I am open for every fair solution.
Kind Regards Christian

1 - you will also cut out the mining address and exchanger addresses.

Just because I'm curious, why do you wanna cut out mining addresses?

because mining is in hands of few people with big rigs...
normal users with normal gpu can not afford mining of this coin...
and miners can simply move coins from mining address to an other every X coins.
i don't think they will have problems to do a simple action like this.

All this assuming the "no transaction since"-limit is set to Y days.
Yes, and thats the problem. If you mine in a week less than X coins you're going to be cut out of the drops happening at in two times Y days. The big rig miners won't have a problem with that because the only thing they'll lose is one drop. I don't really see the miners as a problem. Because you need them and mining & holding must be "more" attractive then other coins. If it is not, the Hashpower just goes away or the miners are dropping their btx directly after mining.
It's quite a difficult decision und you can't be everybody's darling.

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Quote from: minestro on July 03, 2017, 08:27:04 AM

Quote from: marco89 on July 03, 2017, 08:13:02 AM

Quote from: Limx Dev on July 03, 2017, 06:52:59 AM

I am open for every fair solution.
Kind Regards Christian

1 - you will also cut out the mining address and exchanger addresses.

Just because I'm curious, why do you wanna cut out mining addresses?

because mining is in hands of few people with big rigs...
normal users with normal gpu can not afford mining of this coin...
and miners can simply move coins from mining address to an other every X coins.
i don't think they will have problems to do a simple action like this.

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The hash rate was dropped a lot in the last couple days. I think this is because the block reward being too small, even if the block generation time were faster; Splinting 3.125 gives too little for each miner.

changing the blocks from 10min to 2.5min should have no effect as long as the reward is not reduced lower than to a quarter

if i under stand this clearly ,the next round will pay 2.5% to the 1k largest addreses

is this instead of 10btx per address or in addition to the 10btx per address that was given out previously ?

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Quote from: marco89 on July 03, 2017, 08:13:02 AM

Quote from: Limx Dev on July 03, 2017, 06:52:59 AM

I am open for every fair solution.
Kind Regards Christian

1 - you will also cut out the mining address and exchanger addresses.

Just because I'm curious, why do you wanna cut out mining addresses?
A interest for everyone with a "no transactions since"-limit on the address just above a certain threshold isn't a really bad idea. The only problem with that from my point of view are the "little" miners. Because every time they can't add their mined coins to their main address because of the "no transaction since"-limit they are loosing the interest for it.
If you make it just a interest giveaway for all above a certain threshold why is there then a need for the "no transaction since"-limit? This limit would be only needed if you make the giveaway to a limited number of addresses in a certain BTX range.

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Quote from: Limx Dev on July 03, 2017, 06:52:59 AM

I am open for every fair solution.
Kind Regards Christian

as said in previous post an idea for giveaway could be to give a % of BTX to all wallet that have a minimum of X BTX (i.e. 30 btx) but with the particular condition of no transactions in last 10/15 days.
in this way:
1- you will also cut out the mining address and exchanger addresses.
2- the request (and price) will increase because people will store as many btx as possible to get the %.
3- attract new user because the dev is assuring (or anyway tring to assure) a fair play system for giveaway.
4- you will cut out the shitty splitters that made transaction only for the giveaway in the last minutes/hours
so if someone collect some btx (suppose 50-100) he will store them in a new address (avoiding to wait 10/15 more days transferring to his main address)

and for who say that waiting the 10 days could be a negative thing consider that it is a negative thing for all (and let's say... is it really so much waiting 10/15 days?)

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Quote from: CoinCidental on July 03, 2017, 05:56:01 AM

Quote from: jalmari on July 03, 2017, 05:54:42 AM

When was the latest snapshot taken? Which block?

12.00 on clock in Germany someone said

I saw that too, but I would like to know the exact block.

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Quote from: minestro on July 03, 2017, 07:33:16 AM

Quote from: marco89 on July 03, 2017, 07:15:05 AM

Quote from: Limx Dev on July 03, 2017, 06:52:59 AM

I am open for every fair solution.

Kind Regards Christian

an other idea could be to give X amount (fixed or %) of BTX to all wallet that have a minimum of X BTX (i.e. 30 btx) but with the particular condition of no transactions in last X days (i.e. 10/15).
in this way you will cut out the shitty splitters that made transaction only for the giveaway in the last minutes/hours and you will encourage users to store them.
in this way you will also cut out the address of mining and address of cryptopia.
and people will collect their BTX from exchanger or miner account every X days

Quote from: Bitcoin-2018 on July 03, 2017, 07:10:07 AM

What about next airdrop any address with 50 BTX and more will be getting 10BTX?

please no.
so all people with 5000 btx will split in 100 address of 50 each and will get 1000 btx cheating.

The idea of making the time to last transaction somewhat a limit is quite nice. But how do you want to attract new users then? Because they won't be able to take part in the next airdrop because of the last transaction limit they would be only able to take part at the after next airdrop and that's not a really nice outlook.

Also as far as I see it, you would only skip as many airdrops as fit in the set time limit.
As an example, if you now split your account in 4 with enough funds to be in the Top XXXX they won't take part in the actual air drop, but in the next if the limit is anything like under 7 days. You get what I'm thinking?

A good distribution of something like these airdrops on anonymous addresses is, in my opinion a such difficult problem, I don't get why nobody was thinking about that weeks earlier instead of just starting it this way. By setting any limits you are most of the times making trading or buying new coins less attractive. This is something you don't wanna have.
Aren't there any blockchain mechanisms that would provide a solution for this problem?

all of us made sure a transaction in last hours/days
so we all have same problem. not only new one.
the steps will be quite easy:
1- create a new address or use an old one.
2- store all btx possible in it
3- collect a probable 5% every week (if there are no movement)

in this way if you collected X btx on exchanger (suppose 100 btx) move them in a new address and store them to get % also there after 2 weeks.

this will encourage users tu buy as many btx possibile in trading and encourage people to store them in a local wallet. the request of btx will increase cause many people would have as much more big wallet as possible to get the bigger % possible.

and in this way you cut out exchanger address. avoiding to make richer cryptopia instead of users.

this could be lazy to do for developer. but it will assure more fair play and most important this can really attract more users cause honest reward system.

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Quote from: BeggarInCryptos on July 03, 2017, 07:49:34 AM

I think this discussion about splitting could be halted, since the dev has already said he wants to switch to pay a percentage on what you have in your wallet. This way people don't have any interest in splitting to many addresses. I would add also the condition to pay not more than one address in one wallet, so people are enouraged in un-spliting all their coins so that the first 1000 in rich list are really 1000 people and not a few hudreds or less.
However, my feeling is that 2.5% is not a good motivation for people to get in the top 1000. Byteball was distributing 10% montly and it even rose it to 20%. I'm not suggesting to copy their model, but 2.5% seems quite unattractive.

You realize 2.5%/week is quite more than 10%/month? 2,5%/week is the same as ~10,38%/4weeks

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I think this discussion about splitting could be halted, since the dev has already said he wants to switch to pay a percentage on what you have in your wallet. This way people don't have any interest in splitting to many addresses. I would add also the condition to pay not more than one address in one wallet, so people are enouraged in un-spliting all their coins so that the first 1000 in rich list are really 1000 people and not a few hudreds or less.
However, my feeling is that 2.5% is not a good motivation for people to get in the top 1000. Byteball was distributing 10% montly and it even rose it to 20%. I'm not suggesting to copy their model, but 2.5% seems quite unattractive.

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is there anyway to just give out to top 1000 wallets as opposed to wallet addresses? not sure if that is a possibility. I also think a fixed percentage to the wallets may work, on a sliding scale. More holders would be able to participate and this may encourage people to hold a larger amount on an address instead of splitting into smaller amounts, making the distribution more fair.

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Quote from: marco89 on July 03, 2017, 07:15:05 AM

Quote from: Limx Dev on July 03, 2017, 06:52:59 AM

I am open for every fair solution.

Kind Regards Christian

an other idea could be to give X amount (fixed or %) of BTX to all wallet that have a minimum of X BTX (i.e. 30 btx) but with the particular condition of no transactions in last X days (i.e. 10/15).
in this way you will cut out the shitty splitters that made transaction only for the giveaway in the last minutes/hours and you will encourage users to store them.
in this way you will also cut out the address of mining and address of cryptopia.
and people will collect their BTX from exchanger or miner account every X days

Quote from: Bitcoin-2018 on July 03, 2017, 07:10:07 AM

What about next airdrop any address with 50 BTX and more will be getting 10BTX?

please no.
so all people with 5000 btx will split in 100 address of 50 each and will get 1000 btx cheating.

The idea of making the time to last transaction somewhat a limit is quite nice. But how do you want to attract new users then? Because they won't be able to take part in the next airdrop because of the last transaction limit they would be only able to take part at the after next airdrop and that's not a really nice outlook.

Also as far as I see it, you would only skip as many airdrops as fit in the set time limit.
As an example, if you now split your account in 4 with enough funds to be in the Top XXXX they won't take part in the actual air drop, but in the next if the limit is anything like under 7 days. You get what I'm thinking?

A good distribution of something like these airdrops on anonymous addresses is, in my opinion a such difficult problem, I don't get why nobody was thinking about that weeks earlier instead of just starting it this way. By setting any limits you are most of the times making trading or buying new coins less attractive. This is something you don't wanna have.
Aren't there any blockchain mechanisms that would provide a solution for this problem?

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Does the diff. increased that much? few days ago I mined about 3-4 btx per day and now not even 1 btx...

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this method is completely unfair to us who mine and believe in this coin, only to be screwed by those with large amounts who split and get even more rewards. Ive seen holders with over 200 wallet addresses and one with over 500 addresses. How on earth is this even fair to a majority of your stakeholders? so instead of 1000 people getting rewarded, someone with a large amount can split into say 100 addresses and get 1000 BTX all for himself/herself, kicking people who should have been rewarded out of the top 1000. This leaves the largest stakeholders screwing everyone else because of greed. so again, only a few get rewarded.

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Quote from: Limx Dev on July 03, 2017, 06:52:59 AM

I am open for every fair solution.

Kind Regards Christian

an other idea could be to give X amount (fixed or %) of BTX to all wallet that have a minimum of X BTX (i.e. 30 btx) but with the particular condition of no transactions in last X days (i.e. 10/15).
in this way you will cut out the shitty splitters that made transaction only for the giveaway in the last minutes/hours and you will encourage users to store them.
in this way you will also cut out the address of mining and address of cryptopia.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/btx/wallet.dws?149.htm (this is some of cryptopia addresses, you think it's really fair?)
and people will collect their BTX from exchanger or miner account every X days

Quote from: Bitcoin-2018 on July 03, 2017, 07:10:07 AM

What about next airdrop any address with 50 BTX and more will be getting 10BTX?

please no.
so all people with 5000 btx will split in 100 address of 50 each and will get 1000 btx cheating.

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