Topic: [ANN][MAMM] MammothCoin | TRUSTLESS WALLET UPDATED! V.3.1 (Mandatory) - page 28. (Read 181584 times)
August 13, 2014, 10:25:54 AM
I also look at it this way. MAMM market cap $20000. XC market cap 4million. . . . A whole lot more potential for growth over here. This may seem sketchy, but the potential makes it worthwhile for now to see how things pan out.
August 13, 2014, 10:23:17 AM
@synechist i will make good schemes even dan can understand no worry...
August 13, 2014, 10:22:58 AM
Remember this is the Mammothcoin thread, not XC. An 'attack' on XC here isn't really an attack....However, if what Mammoth dev says is true, I can see why he would want to keep deleting distracting information off of here. Assume for a minute that he's right and XC is unreliable/trickery, just that its beyond most people's comprehension. IF thats true. He's acting in a way anyone would expect.
August 13, 2014, 10:18:33 AM
@braxx i wish you were my man to work with then i no need to code but can earn easy reputation
August 13, 2014, 10:10:32 AM
@PowderMonkey i have not got any plan to attract xc community at all. they can enjoy their dev i have no words to say there, but whn the issue comes to decentralised trustless system with multisig we are the first one
and my name is not the matter here i will check again when your dan fix the whitepaper
and my name is not the matter here i will check again when your dan fix the whitepaper
August 13, 2014, 10:03:59 AM
I have nothing to hide here is our scheme truly working trustless system, XC dev has something to hide otherwise would not attack here this much
We have everything there for one who wants to make truly decentralized system
I saw his scheme he was cheating now he is hurrying to cover his cheat see the post above, i told this before he will change it,
We have everything there for one who wants to make truly decentralized systemI saw his scheme he was cheating now he is hurrying to cover his cheat see the post above, i told this before he will change it,
The XC dev has not attacked you.
You'll see that your "attackers" are:
- not the dev
- responding to your attacking remark against the XC dev
So you're the initial attacker, and the XC dev has not attacked you yet.
August 13, 2014, 10:03:54 AM
I have nothing to hide here is our scheme truly working trustless system, XC dev has something to hide otherwise would not attack here this much
We have everything there for one who wants to make truly decentralized system
I saw his scheme he was cheating now he is hurrying to cover his cheat see the post above, i told this before he will change it,
We have everything there for one who wants to make truly decentralized systemI saw his scheme he was cheating now he is hurrying to cover his cheat see the post above, i told this before he will change it,
The XC dev has not attacked you.
You'll see that your "attackers" are:
- not the dev
- responding to your attacking remark against the XC dev
So you're the initial attacker, and the XC dev has not attacked you yet.
The criticism came from a Dan Metcalf, I thought that was the XC dev?
August 13, 2014, 10:02:40 AM
ooh this is heating up. Man I wish I could verify things myself, oh well, on with the show.
One suggestion Mammothcoin dev. If you made yourself public, or gave us something else to help understand who you are, where you're from, and what your training is - it would go a long way.
Ultimately. As you've said. There are only a handful of people out there who can truly look at these systems and determine whether the anonymity works. But still to have a community and a successful coin, people need to trust that it is trust-less. If we knew more about you, we could trust that. If you have a charity attached, we could trust that. If you had some known testers, we could trust that. I know that you're focusing on the code, and guarding your new methodology (this is perfectly reasonable given the competition out there and the fact you are not yet finished). . . .But long term a very public approach would do wonders for the coin value.
One suggestion Mammothcoin dev. If you made yourself public, or gave us something else to help understand who you are, where you're from, and what your training is - it would go a long way.
Ultimately. As you've said. There are only a handful of people out there who can truly look at these systems and determine whether the anonymity works. But still to have a community and a successful coin, people need to trust that it is trust-less. If we knew more about you, we could trust that. If you have a charity attached, we could trust that. If you had some known testers, we could trust that. I know that you're focusing on the code, and guarding your new methodology (this is perfectly reasonable given the competition out there and the fact you are not yet finished). . . .But long term a very public approach would do wonders for the coin value.
August 13, 2014, 09:57:48 AM
I have nothing to hide here is our scheme truly working trustless system, XC dev has something to hide otherwise would not attack here this much
We have everything there for one who wants to make truly decentralized system
I saw his scheme he was cheating now he is hurrying to cover his cheat see the post above, i told this before he will change it, and you are just another fud from there,
I honestly dont think he is able to understand the scheme.
We have everything there for one who wants to make truly decentralized systemI saw his scheme he was cheating now he is hurrying to cover his cheat see the post above, i told this before he will change it, and you are just another fud from there,
I honestly dont think he is able to understand the scheme.
August 13, 2014, 09:54:44 AM
real mature of you...
someone suggest to get the code reviewed by ATCsecure for example...
you instantly bash the coin and the dev.
looks to me you have something to hide.
someone suggest to get the code reviewed by ATCsecure for example...
you instantly bash the coin and the dev.
looks to me you have something to hide.
August 13, 2014, 09:43:58 AM
@atcsecure you have no idea what you are talking about and you know the fact that your coin is not trustless otherwise you would not come here after 10 people army and push the thread with constant attacks, its shame on you. i know you are good hyper but you cant hide the truth forever, your words crab does not mean anything, you please prove your system in schema actually works then i can respect your competence, you can cheat with false schemes and concepts only people unaware but not me,
I should have an updated whitepaper on both the decentralized trustless mixing [which is multi-sig based] and the xchat by Sunday night, if not sooner.
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yes you should because we showed you how to do it rightly and you had no idea on this before until we share truly trustless system
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I should have an updated whitepaper on both the decentralized trustless mixing [which is multi-sig based] and the xchat by Sunday night, if not sooner.
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yes you should because we showed you how to do it rightly and you had no idea on this before until we share truly trustless system
August 13, 2014, 07:43:01 AM
This is how true p2p trustless decentralized system works!
You will see in your wallet transactions like this one:
my node works like a mixer here between confusing the transfer between parties. (see it divides two)
then you will go to QT console type getlast anontxinfo
http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/c2jIjGnszS you can watch same command run in real net.
out puts will like this:
12:26:19
getlastanontxinfo
12:26:19
The status of last/current transaction: ATX_STATUS_COMPLETE (Anonymous transaction completed).
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Received availability request. Service is available.
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Anonymous ID is set to ME83tqj2NKfqYwFRPuNUrDufL3K4JQJ1Gk-1407918101
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Received Mixer request. Accepted.
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Self Role is set to Mixer.
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Selected SelfAddress = MAhv7Y42XCm91Lc6XrcNCgwePcw7qX4Upu, PublicKey = 03ba2c9546231eb1c7c7ccf74c396deb4c3250679c6f8b999c779ce9f7a1f5b2d9.
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Set Initial Send Info.
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Set Sender Address = ME83tqj2NKfqYwFRPuNUrDufL3K4JQJ1Gk, PublicKey = 03a8b506aefb5b52b213f561271ec0.
2014-08-13.12:21:22: Guarantor accepted request.
2014-08-13.12:21:22: Set Guarantor Address = MAu4N7RJQujDptUVTwiHaUjSGKWWde7tUh, PublicKey = 028141351978b7acb03193edbdf33c.
2014-08-13.12:21:22: Received 2-of-3 Multisig Address. Address = bLYC4zHvjZkyQ1euz5e3kac3TAzwutWqCo.
2014-08-13.12:21:22: Received Redeem Script = 522103a8b506aefb5b52b213f56127...
2014-08-13.12:21:23: Deposited to Multisig address. TxID = 375e1ccbda9cd093e6cf3f47d0594ec4d27eb347351f5aa84b6f0da8db2e0ad9.
2014-08-13.12:21:23: Received deposit TxID from sender. TxID = 37bd2349966f320055f17f588948bc9ec5214981d21ede83ad9da595e697fd8d.
2014-08-13.12:21:23: Received deposit TxID from guarantor. TxID = 8c1b81d4ff762fa052496444e8daa3051201f1d3df7710d7e971d351543339fe.
2014-08-13.12:21:29: Received multisig distribution transaction. TxID = 010000001420eb53038dfd97e695a5...
2014-08-13.12:21:29: Received TxIns information.
2014-08-13.12:21:29: Required amount is sent to final destination. TxID = bf3f34d37ee83b4c2b8fbef7db5dca703717cb776f2976f02dfd658ea218abac.
2014-08-13.12:21:29: Mixer successfully signed the distribution tx. TxID = 010000001420eb53038dfd97e695a5...
2014-08-13.12:21:36: Received multisig distribution tx execution. TxID = 0cafb5e67fc11e54b115c7b13ebc38e5603079930ece8ff1753e4df8a49b26bc.
2014-08-13.12:21:36: Anonymous transaction completed
and the 2-of-3 multisig address is the one started with b
you can use explorer to check it http://chainz.cryptoid.info/mamm/
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/mamm/address.dws?bLYC4zHvjZkyQ1euz5e3kac3TAzwutWqCo.htm
this is the 2-of-3 multisig address we just created (during the transaction)
and you see all the coins transfer in and out there
My node or I gained about 0.25 MAMM coin as commission
sender paid 0.5 coin as commission
i (mixer) and guarantor split each get 0.25 coin well a little less than 0.25 because there are transaction fee
because not enough nodes synced we could not test more widely more details coming soon
sorry guys this is for today expect more 12=24 hours
So there is no question our system works. i will reach testers soon about 8 hours about new qt. I want testers share their results, here then we can go to next beta step,You will see in your wallet transactions like this one:
my node works like a mixer here between confusing the transfer between parties. (see it divides two)
then you will go to QT console type getlast anontxinfo
http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/c2jIjGnszS you can watch same command run in real net.
out puts will like this:
12:26:19
getlastanontxinfo
12:26:19
The status of last/current transaction: ATX_STATUS_COMPLETE (Anonymous transaction completed).
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Received availability request. Service is available.
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Anonymous ID is set to ME83tqj2NKfqYwFRPuNUrDufL3K4JQJ1Gk-1407918101
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Received Mixer request. Accepted.
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Self Role is set to Mixer.
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Selected SelfAddress = MAhv7Y42XCm91Lc6XrcNCgwePcw7qX4Upu, PublicKey = 03ba2c9546231eb1c7c7ccf74c396deb4c3250679c6f8b999c779ce9f7a1f5b2d9.
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Set Initial Send Info.
2014-08-13.12:21:21: Set Sender Address = ME83tqj2NKfqYwFRPuNUrDufL3K4JQJ1Gk, PublicKey = 03a8b506aefb5b52b213f561271ec0.
2014-08-13.12:21:22: Guarantor accepted request.
2014-08-13.12:21:22: Set Guarantor Address = MAu4N7RJQujDptUVTwiHaUjSGKWWde7tUh, PublicKey = 028141351978b7acb03193edbdf33c.
2014-08-13.12:21:22: Received 2-of-3 Multisig Address. Address = bLYC4zHvjZkyQ1euz5e3kac3TAzwutWqCo.
2014-08-13.12:21:22: Received Redeem Script = 522103a8b506aefb5b52b213f56127...
2014-08-13.12:21:23: Deposited to Multisig address. TxID = 375e1ccbda9cd093e6cf3f47d0594ec4d27eb347351f5aa84b6f0da8db2e0ad9.
2014-08-13.12:21:23: Received deposit TxID from sender. TxID = 37bd2349966f320055f17f588948bc9ec5214981d21ede83ad9da595e697fd8d.
2014-08-13.12:21:23: Received deposit TxID from guarantor. TxID = 8c1b81d4ff762fa052496444e8daa3051201f1d3df7710d7e971d351543339fe.
2014-08-13.12:21:29: Received multisig distribution transaction. TxID = 010000001420eb53038dfd97e695a5...
2014-08-13.12:21:29: Received TxIns information.
2014-08-13.12:21:29: Required amount is sent to final destination. TxID = bf3f34d37ee83b4c2b8fbef7db5dca703717cb776f2976f02dfd658ea218abac.
2014-08-13.12:21:29: Mixer successfully signed the distribution tx. TxID = 010000001420eb53038dfd97e695a5...
2014-08-13.12:21:36: Received multisig distribution tx execution. TxID = 0cafb5e67fc11e54b115c7b13ebc38e5603079930ece8ff1753e4df8a49b26bc.
2014-08-13.12:21:36: Anonymous transaction completed
and the 2-of-3 multisig address is the one started with b
you can use explorer to check it http://chainz.cryptoid.info/mamm/
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/mamm/address.dws?bLYC4zHvjZkyQ1euz5e3kac3TAzwutWqCo.htm
this is the 2-of-3 multisig address we just created (during the transaction)
and you see all the coins transfer in and out there
My node or I gained about 0.25 MAMM coin as commission
sender paid 0.5 coin as commission
i (mixer) and guarantor split each get 0.25 coin well a little less than 0.25 because there are transaction fee
because not enough nodes synced we could not test more widely more details coming soon
sorry guys this is for today expect more 12=24 hours
August 13, 2014, 07:39:38 AM
why did you remove my comment about you doing a proofofdeveloper with cryptoasian.com
@fastminer i am quite busy i cant have my valuable time to answer all accusations. i have no idea what you are talking about.well what is the point in deleting it, you could have just looked back at it later and where did i accuse you of anything. i simply said others who are accusing you of being supercoin dev, if you did a proof of developer check offered cryptoasian.com it would shut them up.
where is the accusation in that
They made automated machine to post every 20 seconds because i delete their hundred posts and your post was in middle of these. Sorry about it but my morale is above my products sometimes, Also if you have an issue you should better pm me first so i know it is not fud or harm intended.
August 13, 2014, 07:31:54 AM
why did you remove my comment about you doing a proofofdeveloper with cryptoasian.com
@fastminer i am quite busy i cant have my valuable time to answer all accusations. i have no idea what you are talking about.well what is the point in deleting it, you could have just looked back at it later and where did i accuse you of anything. i simply said others who are accusing you of being supercoin dev, if you did a proof of developer check offered cryptoasian.com it would shut them up.
where is the accusation in that
August 13, 2014, 07:31:17 AM
Like expected fud storm started. I cleaned the fud, I wish you good luck with your pseudo anon coins.
If you want to see first time what trust-less decentralized anonymous technology looks like, you can join the tests .
No you were telling lies, so people corrected you. If you tell some lies I am genuinely worried that it is possible you may be lying about MAMM too.If you want to see first time what trust-less decentralized anonymous technology looks like, you can join the tests .
you will witness this so soon.
The problem is that although it is not easy to do this there are others who are doing it too. And they may possibly be doing it better. The whole privacy/encryption space is potentially big enough for a lot of diversity and choices though, so even a coin that is not the "best" may do the best.
It is so important IMHO to establish a community who support the coin, and this is what XC has and is building.
So it is not necessary to say the things you did, and even worse to say them when they are not true,
But as a fellow crypto coin enthusiast, I can, easily, wish you and MAMM the very best
We will have great times to satisfy our community, my concerns here increasing awareness about animal rights, getting people meet with new level of privacy, and enjoying my times with community, i realize we have lots of missing pr and lots of things to do but i say i will have more time our long hours coding come to near end, you can and you should be part of our movement,
August 13, 2014, 07:26:13 AM
why did you remove my comment about you doing a proofofdeveloper with cryptoasian.com
@fastminer i am quite busy i cant have my valuable time to answer all accusations. i have no idea what you are talking about. August 13, 2014, 07:24:49 AM
Do not feed the fud.
it be better if you get some reputable members to test it. if you have to pay them, you should it would add credibility to the system, id recommend contacting xc dev and offering something
I accept reputable members but XC dev is not reputable one because he does not know what is multisig and true trustless system and keep cheating his community with absurd things. Sorry if am rude but these are the facts laying in front of me. Someone else who is not XC dev can join tests for sure. I won't lose my time to teach amateurs what is trust-less system look like!! Please follow their threads and take screencaps they will like to cheat with our concepts their community soon.
no need to bash other coins
not nice
@braxx You are right about being kind to developers. But if we want to see real competent people win. i am sure you want to use real technology not fake one. then one must speak about these in this case it was me
August 13, 2014, 05:47:18 AM
Like expected fud storm started. I cleaned the fud, I wish you good luck with your pseudo anon coins.
If you want to see first time what trust-less decentralized anonymous technology looks like, you can join the tests .
No you were telling lies, so people corrected you. If you tell some lies I am genuinely worried that it is possible you may be lying about MAMM too.If you want to see first time what trust-less decentralized anonymous technology looks like, you can join the tests .
you will witness this so soon.
The problem is that although it is not easy to do this there are others who are doing it too. And they may possibly be doing it better. The whole privacy/encryption space is potentially big enough for a lot of diversity and choices though, so even a coin that is not the "best" may do the best.
It is so important IMHO to establish a community who support the coin, and this is what XC has and is building.
So it is not necessary to say the things you did, and even worse to say them when they are not true,
But as a fellow crypto coin enthusiast, I can, easily, wish you and MAMM the very best
August 13, 2014, 05:42:58 AM
why did you remove my comment about you doing a proofofdeveloper with cryptoasian.com
August 13, 2014, 05:28:18 AM
Do not feed the fud.
it be better if you get some reputable members to test it. if you have to pay them, you should it would add credibility to the system, id recommend contacting xc dev and offering something
I accept reputable members but XC dev is not reputable one because he does not know what is multisig and true trustless system and keep cheating his community with absurd things. Sorry if am rude but these are the facts laying in front of me. Someone else who is not XC dev can join tests for sure. I won't lose my time to teach amateurs what is trust-less system look like!! Please follow their threads and take screencaps they will like to cheat with our concepts their community soon.
no need to bash other coins
not nice
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