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Topic: [ANN][MONA] Monacoin LAUNCHING 2014/01/01 0:00 GMT - page 75. (Read 283638 times)

newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
This is the only new currency I believe in the moment. I tried going to 2ch with google translate and there is a huge amount of users talking about the coin, too bad it seems that they're mining this with their toasters

Don't sell Japanese toasters short, most probably have voice recognition, play mp3s, and transform into a robot cat schoolgirl with karate chop action. ) _)
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
enough waiting for me on Mona
i like this coin but with "web service IS available only for domestic [Japan] use and we do not support Non-Japanese People" i'm out
WTS 80 Mona, pm me
hero member
Activity: 1050
Merit: 513
Selling 1495 Mona for 0.15 Btc
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
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Warning :.. this web service IS available only for domestic [Japan] use and we do not support Non-Japanese People If we found you Are Accessing from foregin countries, we Will Lock your account and Freeze all of your balance Without any caution Please use foreign exchanges such as newchg.com alternatively.

Awesome. So now we're stuck with newchg.com as the only exchange we can use to trade with without getting fucked over, and even then that's not a real exchange (it's just basically a spreadsheet that doesn't do anything other than list orders, trading still has to be done person-to-person or via escrow) and it doesn't even work (Can't sell or buy for less than 1BTC, which is obviously a problem).

I wish I could say I was surprised.

I get that the site might be having issues, but do they think that alienating western miners and traders is a good idea at all? I was actually about to switch back to mining MONA since I had finally gotten the hang of trading on that site, not happening now though. I'm done with this coin entirely once I sell off my remaining MONA.
full member
Activity: 294
Merit: 100
This is the only new currency I believe in the moment. I tried going to 2ch with google translate and there is a huge amount of users talking about the coin, too bad it seems that they're mining this with their toasters

I agree, following the 2ch thread and it has very high activity. Exciting times ahead.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
WTS 5K mona for BTC

PM me your rates Grin Grin Grin
member
Activity: 68
Merit: 10
To put this all in perspective,

We are talking about something with a miner base less than 500 people maximum, 11 days into the market, to expect that the entirety of the market is worth even $50,000 let alone 100 or 200k at this early stage is certainly a big stretch.

Yeah, I agree that we should give it more time to mature. I'm definitely holding onto my coins. I mined 400 and bought the rest at .00004 BTC per MONA so I'm set to make a nice profit when it hits .0001 Smiley
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
To put this all in perspective,

We are talking about something with a miner base less than 500 people maximum, 11 days into the market, to expect that the entirety of the market is worth even $50,000 let alone 100 or 200k at this early stage is certainly a big stretch.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
http://monatr.jp/orderbook

currently, 1 MONA = 0.0001 BTC
so, 3000 MONA should be worth 0.3 BTC



I have a better offer:
WTS 5K MONA for 0.4 BTC
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
Is anyone even able to post orders there at the moment? I keep trying but no matter what I put it comes up saying "Invalid amount specified", even though I successfully sold some MONA there earlier. And as far as I know there's no minimum limit on orders, I managed to put up orders in the past with less than 1MONA for sale.

Also I went to withdraw BTC and out of the 0.0773 it was meant to send out it only sent out 0.07. I can't withdraw the rest because of the minimum 0.01 withdrawal limit..
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
RTFM ;D
http://monatr.jp/orderbook

currently, 1 MONA = 0.0001 BTC
so, 3000 MONA should be worth 0.3 BTC

newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
Bump, does anyone know the current MONA/BTC rate?
Without vetted and accessible exchange ready, I give the following advice.
There are some very high sell offers but I strongly advise against paying above $0.01usd(or about 0.00045 LTC), which is about the current avg production price(including capital costs) per MONA for new entrants. Meaning anything more than that I would advise you simply invest in additional hardware, as it would likely give you more return on your investment, with far less risk.

Well, let's say I have 3k, how much would I be able to get out of it?

By the numbers I would give that a maximum value of about 1.35 LTC using todays numbers.
It may be worth crazy prices in the future, and its far less inflationary then things like Doge or Earthcoin, so it is more likely to maintain and or increase its value as a function of time if it is lucky enough gain greater acceptance.

Outside of that I'll also say its worth what someone will pay, I'm sure someone will disagree with my valuation, and that's there right, but at the end of the day I'm a businessman whos job it is to make the most money possible, and after running the numbers it becomes more profitable to buy mining equipment at prices over that.

I'm sure someone the right person may give you more, and if you can get lots more go for it, caveat emptor.
member
Activity: 68
Merit: 10
Bump, does anyone know the current MONA/BTC rate?
Without vetted and accessible exchange ready, I give the following advice.
There are some very high sell offers but I strongly advise against paying above $0.01usd(or about 0.00045 LTC), which is about the current avg production price(including capital costs) per MONA for new entrants. Meaning anything more than that I would advise you simply invest in additional hardware, as it would likely give you more return on your investment, with far less risk.

Well, let's say I have 3k, how much would I be able to get out of it?
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
Bump, does anyone know the current MONA/BTC rate?
Without vetted and accessible exchange ready, I give the following advice.
There are some very high sell offers but I strongly advise against paying above $0.01usd(or about 0.00045 LTC), which is about the current avg production price(including capital costs) per MONA for new entrants. Meaning anything more than that I would advise you simply invest in additional hardware, as it would likely give you more return on your investment, with far less risk.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
member
Activity: 68
Merit: 10
Bump, does anyone know the current MONA/BTC rate?
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
Here is my take on MONA.

I was, as recently as today, going to dump all my MONA for cheap. Why? I didn't think this coin was going anywhere.
Then I changed my mind.
More specifically, I remembered something from my youth.

When I was 12, I had a job at a paddle manufacturing facility. We made kayak paddles and canoe paddles. We made something like 20-30 paddles a week (my memory is foggy, this was 30yrs ago).
Suddenly, out of the blue, we were exporting hundreds of kayak paddles. Couldn't keep up with orders. Backordered for months.
Why?

For some reason I will never understand, hanging kayak paddles above your mantle became in vogue in Japan.  Huh

Then, as soon as we started to get orders under control, the fad ended. Back to 20-30 paddles a week.

The point to my story is, when the Japanese people get wind of something perceived as new and cool (and their friends like and/or use it), all bets are off. A strange kind of mania takes over and if you catch the wave at the right time you can profit handsomely.

I realise this little anecdote may be irrelevant to crypto-mining and currency speculation, but it did make me stop and hold my MONA. All I have to lose is few hours of hashing. Hats off to the speculators, I wouldn't do it but it takes balls and risk to make $$, eh?  Grin

Want more reason to hold? 
Check out http://www.reddit.com/r/monacoin 
Now compare it to the other alt coins like cagecoin, kittehcoin, mooncoin, billioncoin, ronpaulcoin. 
Monacoin has people opening up shops accepting monacoin. All those coins above don't
Monacoin users opened up their own exchange. THEY OPENED UP THEIR OWN FULLY FUNCTIONAL EXCHANGE! http://monatr.jp/orderbook
Monacoin users are actively developing, screenshot of wallet app on reddit. Website that incorporates ransom for showing secret text.

The coins above are all on Coinedup and doing horribly(rpc doing okay maybe) because the people who have them only wanted to dump them.

Monacoin is actually being used for its intended purpose, a medium for exchange.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Here is my take on MONA.

I was, as recently as today, going to dump all my MONA for cheap. Why? I didn't think this coin was going anywhere.
Then I changed my mind.
More specifically, I remembered something from my youth.

When I was 12, I had a job at a paddle manufacturing facility. We made kayak paddles and canoe paddles. We made something like 20-30 paddles a week (my memory is foggy, this was 30yrs ago).
Suddenly, out of the blue, we were exporting hundreds of kayak paddles. Couldn't keep up with orders. Backordered for months.
Why?

For some reason I will never understand, hanging kayak paddles above your mantle became in vogue in Japan.  Huh

Then, as soon as we started to get orders under control, the fad ended. Back to 20-30 paddles a week.

The point to my story is, when the Japanese people get wind of something perceived as new and cool (and their friends like and/or use it), all bets are off. A strange kind of mania takes over and if you catch the wave at the right time you can profit handsomely.

I realise this little anecdote may be irrelevant to crypto-mining and currency speculation, but it did make me stop and hold my MONA. All I have to lose is few hours of hashing. Hats off to the speculators, I wouldn't do it but it takes balls and risk to make $$, eh?  Grin
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
Willing to buy your mona stake:

min amount: 500
max amount: 5000

0.0004 LTC per 1 MONA

A very generous offer for this yet unlisted coin.

Price too low

I don't think its entirely out of line for a coin that hasn't even reached the low volume alt exchanges, may not even get listed at all, there's a significant risk.
Using the data I've collected I've calculated the current market entry price to be quite close to $0.01 usd per mona*, those who started before much earlier than today would have less invested in proportion to share of the total stake they now hold.

Early adopters have the opportunity now to exit the market, without incurring losses, likely getting a fair profit, while the buyers(myself included) assume the very high risk of a asset with extremely low liquidity, and the fair chance of 0% R.O.I.

Economics are one of my primary fields of expertise, I normally don't work for free, so don't expect any more free assessments.  (But contact me if you need someone to crunch the numbers and work out the economics of a coin)

*(My full mona assessment is not included here, but is written in my notebook if needed)


This may be true, but it doesn't make your offer "very generous". It is a calculated risk, therefore reasonable, not generous.

Calculated risk, true, but I consider it a generous offer since the lifetime cost per unit averages far less than the current entry price. Paying greater than new unit price for an asset that has a high and very real risk of total loss(0% R.O.I.) and nearly zero liquidity, would be unwise. Anything greater than new unit cost is illogical from my standpoint, and I've offered greater than 90% of that, therefore calculated generosity.
full member
Activity: 294
Merit: 100
Willing to buy your mona stake:

min amount: 500
max amount: 5000

0.0004 LTC per 1 MONA

A very generous offer for this yet unlisted coin.

Price too low

I don't think its entirely out of line for a coin that hasn't even reached the low volume alt exchanges, may not even get listed at all, there's a significant risk.
Using the data I've collected I've calculated the current market entry price to be quite close to $0.01 usd per mona*, those who started before much earlier than today would have less invested in proportion to share of the total stake they now hold.

Early adopters have the opportunity now to exit the market, without incurring losses, likely getting a fair profit, while the buyers(myself included) assume the very high risk of a asset with extremely low liquidity, and the fair chance of 0% R.O.I.

Economics are one of my primary fields of expertise, I normally don't work for free, so don't expect any more free assessments.  (But contact me if you need someone to crunch the numbers and work out the economics of a coin)

*(My full mona assessment is not included here, but is written in my notebook if needed)


This may be true, but it doesn't make your offer "very generous". It is a calculated risk, therefore reasonable, not generous.
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