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sr. member
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June 04, 2014, 02:41:25 AM
There is not a chance in hell that 14002 which took 4 seconds to solve but is a 21/22 seconds long map was driven by a human at 6x increased speed. Let's be real here.

And the link to 14001 is only there so you see how short 14002 was, not saying that 14001 must have been botted. Sure, the bot could get some unlucky bruteforce streaks and not get anything for a minute or so and a human may get luckier in that time. But overall - the picture is clear here.


14416 I think happened in less than 3 seconds so I now agree with you.
I really wasn't expecting this to happen so fast. Oh well.
Times in blocks are not precise. You can just set your system time to several minutes in past and you will be able to generate block in negative time. You can even find such blocks in block explorer, where next block was generated before previous, at least according to their times. In fact, it just means that these times can not be fully trusted.

Shhh WilliamLie2, I'm about to buy a shitload of MOTO on C-Cex!
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June 04, 2014, 02:37:40 AM
There is not a chance in hell that 14002 which took 4 seconds to solve but is a 21/22 seconds long map was driven by a human at 6x increased speed. Let's be real here.

And the link to 14001 is only there so you see how short 14002 was, not saying that 14001 must have been botted. Sure, the bot could get some unlucky bruteforce streaks and not get anything for a minute or so and a human may get luckier in that time. But overall - the picture is clear here.


14416 I think happened in less than 3 seconds so I now agree with you.
I really wasn't expecting this to happen so fast. Oh well.
Times in blocks are not precise. You can just set your system time to several minutes in past and you will be able to generate block in negative amount of time. You can even find such blocks in block explorer, where next block was generated before previous, at least according to their times. In fact, it just means that these times can not be fully trusted.
sr. member
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June 04, 2014, 02:30:31 AM
There is not a chance in hell that 14002 which took 4 seconds to solve but is a 21/22 seconds long map was driven by a human at 6x increased speed. Let's be real here.

And the link to 14001 is only there so you see how short 14002 was, not saying that 14001 must have been botted. Sure, the bot could get some unlucky bruteforce streaks and not get anything for a minute or so and a human may get luckier in that time. But overall - the picture is clear here.


14416 I think happened in less than 3 seconds so I now agree with you.
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June 04, 2014, 02:13:33 AM
There is not a chance in hell that 14002 which took 4 seconds to solve but is a 21/22 seconds long map was driven by a human at 6x increased speed. Let's be real here.

And the link to 14001 is only there so you see how short 14002 was, not saying that 14001 must have been botted. Sure, the bot could get some unlucky bruteforce streaks and not get anything for a minute or so and a human may get luckier in that time. But overall - the picture is clear here.
sr. member
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June 04, 2014, 02:03:24 AM
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June 04, 2014, 01:52:12 AM
Well, damn. I take that back.

Check out the solve times of these blocks:

http://moto-explorer.fvds.ru/block.php?block_id=14251 02:22:22
http://moto-explorer.fvds.ru/block.php?block_id=14252 02:22:29
http://moto-explorer.fvds.ru/block.php?block_id=14253 02:22:39

http://moto-explorer.fvds.ru/block.php?block_id=14257 02:23:56
http://moto-explorer.fvds.ru/block.php?block_id=14258 02:24:04

http://moto-explorer.fvds.ru/block.php?block_id=14001 00:16:33
http://moto-explorer.fvds.ru/block.php?block_id=14002 00:16:37

And there's many more like that.

Let's not panic here but speak of what does this mean for Motocoin's future.

My 2 cents:

The target time will soon get to 9-10 seconds or whatever length long enough for even bots to struggle with finding a clear path faster than the target block generation time of 1 minute. I have mined about 300 blocks, most of them when target was 18-23 seconds and the reward was 100 coins and only got a time of 10 seconds once, never under that. Perhaps a smart enough pathfinding algorithm can find that kind of maps in crazy short times.

The bad news is - the automation tool(s) are surely only at the hands of some talented, fortunate person or 2-3 at most, who will reap the benefits of their incredible showcase of programming wisdom for possibly quite some time before someone else does the same. Open-source would probably be the best route to go to challenge the bot dominating the mining right now.

OR Motocoin needs a serious hardfork of bot-breaking changes to the physics, bike behaviour or map generation.
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June 04, 2014, 01:07:23 AM
I don't think there are bots at work. If there were, there would be block solve times of under 10 seconds, because a bot doesn't need to actually drive the path it calculates, it only needs to figure out the move sequence and then send it to the network.
legendary
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Crypto since 2014
June 03, 2014, 11:09:03 PM
I smell a dump on c-cex.
legendary
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Crypto since 2014
June 03, 2014, 11:07:56 PM
It seems that the bots are now dominating.
Is there actually bots?
sr. member
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June 03, 2014, 09:15:39 PM
It seems that the bots are now dominating.
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June 03, 2014, 08:15:20 PM
It's over.
newbie
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June 03, 2014, 07:21:32 PM
The last 100 blocks averaged at 27.89 seconds to finish, is this still playable for "average" human? What I mean is is this game already botted? It would be kind and nice to hear all your voice.
As for my self, I seldom find more than one block per hour after 8000. Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry
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June 03, 2014, 05:35:33 PM
formulacoin, hitmancoin, gtacoin, dukenukemcoin, tom&jerrycoin, cs1.6coin, wolfensteincoin, princecoin, nfscoin....

we are the champions!  we are the gamblers! Grin
Vz
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June 03, 2014, 04:33:17 PM


We made it!

*what the hell) Blocks start to go sooo fast.. I collect nothing for that two hours)..
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June 03, 2014, 04:28:49 PM
motocoin... Grin  Grin  Grin

very promising coin Wink
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June 03, 2014, 01:02:01 PM
We are on coinmarketcap now but in low volume section, we need some volume to get noticed.

You are right, let's breach the Top 100 and let the world know! Time to trade! https://c-cex.com/?p=moto-btc

Seriously, it takes just little coordinated effort to break into Top 100 for both market cap and volume! Smiley Here we are now:

Volume:
#129 - $585 in the last 24h.
#100 is Yellowcoin with $1300 in the last 24h. So, a volume of about 1.1 BTC more would get us right past it.

Market cap:
#165 - $ 50,315 / $ 0.037427 / 1,344,360 MOTO / $ 585
#100 is 42 Coin with $ 67,544. To beat them we would need to push the Motocoin price from $0.037 to $0.050 (or 0.000075 BTC) or so. We have been over 0.00009 BTC before, so what stops us?
And we would be at #105 if only the 24h volume was over 1 BTC (we are only about $100 short right now). Also we are just $8000 of market cap behind Huntercoin, the first computer game cryptocoin (not exclusively human minable, though) and sort of a rival.

Can we rally and do it?


In other news - I took some time to make a spreadsheet detailing some interesting blockchain data starting from zero block to future estimates based on what we know Wink
William was kind enough to forward to it from this address http://motocoin.org/datasheet Smiley
Fun fact - the estimate for mining of the 40 millionth coin is almost exactly 10 years from now!

Any supportive donations are appreciated Smiley MoTpey9t7iwpq4uCsLZfN8d4rTWFnDkZVBh
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
June 03, 2014, 08:55:46 AM
This absolutely great Smiley

The most fun coin till date.

Not if you play 4 hours without success. no its' not .
Got a few coins a while ago but that's it for me.
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June 03, 2014, 08:19:31 AM
We are on coinmarketcap now but in low volume section, we need some volume to get noticed.
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June 03, 2014, 08:04:04 AM
Is it possible to add anonymous transactions feature in this coin? Because if it is possible then this coin can do wonders.
legendary
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June 03, 2014, 01:31:05 AM
thanks for the service. but why did 20 moto, and not 100? Cry Cry Cry

 Because block time was reduced from 5 minutes to 1 minute. Block reward was cut accordingly. I would to se 2 MOTO per block, so, it depends on your personal interest. Developers have to find the most reasonable solution and they can stay neutral just because they are backed by "premine".
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