Topic: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! - page 8. (Read 278397 times)

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I have a bootstrap from about 3 months ago you can download here http://mazatest.cryptoadhd.com/bootstrap.dat

thank you very much...

Can you say me if there is any file with the blockchain bootstrap to download.... or I have to sinchronize the wallet ?

Linux Wallet https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmWuXw1dbmfjw3Dxq2RrPLUVYycGmUZ2wRvHQNeMcnn4uC
Windows Wallet https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmZ3s6sqhFPaPgTHthjuEuvZP1oBGE452CmrBsGjKhF6w3

Current known exchanges
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz
https://www.coingather.com/exchange/MZC/BTC

Where I can download the mazacoin wallet???

I have tried in mazacoin official website, via IPFS, but without success... It's a little complicated.

And in which exchange I can trade some Mazacoin???

Thanks

A commentor on another thread talked about using masternodes to secure the network. It seems to have a lot of benefits for the network. If anybody wants to figure that out it might be something to start a bounty fund for. http://masternodes.pro/

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Great post Rob, have joined telegram group
excited about your ideas and rest of dev team, bringing in some new talent and getting input, feedback and work by the community will bear fruit
Maza is a sleeping giant and really needs this shot in the arm
will contribute more week after next as on holiday tomorrow
I have a few things I can briong to the table
time for other mazacoiners to stop sitting on coins and contribute to comunity a bit more too

Quick update:

I've upgraded the Telegram group above - please use this link https://t.me/joinchat/F_pNy0OGi1ixZKHILc-3Uw

Hey all  - sorry I don't get onto this forum much and haven't been around a lot of late.

I've set up a fresh Telegram group, MAZAtribe(I'm not a Slack fan) so we can have a real chat happen
MAZAtribe Telegram

Please join us!

Peter - thanks for sending some funds into the premine address! I've not had a chance to read through all the latest posts here, but I will shortly.

Nothing has changed with regard to the premine addresses - we have full control of the one address (owl has the privkey)
and no control in the moment over the other address (privkey is encrypted and we do not have a password). All the funds
we expect to be there are accounted for. To recover the encrypted address will take some work, but it's certainly possible.

There are several possible scenarios, each of which will require a hard fork.
Because those coins were premined (or donated to the same address) and do not belong to any individual
or group other than the network as a whole, I feel like we can use an extra-ordinary measure (hardfork), and finally put the
concerns that people have about the premined coins to rest. I would suggest that these are not simply recovered and moved
to a new p2pkh address, but be put to use for the network as a whole in another way.

I have some further plans, and a good lot of documents to share with y'all over time, I'll be doing this over in the Telegram group.

Right now it'd be helpful if we could find a few folks who'd like to help with some web development projects/marketing, and
we very much need to find a few qualified coin developers. I'm mostly a systems architect, and have been doing the release management
for maza-qt and some other projects for maza. There's a lot that needs updating before we can move much further forward.

I'm happy to answer questions anytime on Telegram, but do prefer that we can have most of those in the open group.

Regarding the bittrex delisting: Those guys never responded to us at all. It's unclear why they delisted us, but I think overall it's for the best
Volume on Cryptopia has been steadily picking up for both MAZA and their whole market. With some development work that's visible, I think there's
a good chance of getting onto a few more exchanges - don't expect poloniex or bittrex listings anytime soon! I also think that the network needs to
take the matter of interchain exchange into its own domain - so that people & contracts & code don't need to rely on custodial exchanges to
move their MAZA in and out of other chains.

My own life has been a bit of a hectic struggle through the past year, largely scraping by with little to no cash (and trying hard to not sell any MAZA unnecessarily), so it's been difficult
to find the time, network, and physical space to get any real dev work done of any sort. I am currently away from my home in Mt Shasta, California, and have very crappy 3G-4G service
most everywhere I've been. I expect to be back at home around the end of August.

If you've been following me on Twitter https://twitter.com/guruvan you've seen that I've taken a very active stance on Bitcoin scaling issues. Because MAZA is a sha256-pow coin, the development path of Bitcoin is very crucial to our own. We must either integrate with, or differentiate from our big sibling. There are several "common" paths that coins have been taking all of which we can explore, and there are some much more uncommon possibilities I've been working on. I'm inclined to think that a mixture is best for the longer term health of the network.

If you've read my Twitter feed, you're also sure to know that I'm not a fan of SegWit, and have limited attraction to Lightning. There are, in my own opinion many more
ways that a network can grow than to simply increase transaction throughput on a blockchain. There is no good reason at this time to radically alter the mazacoin base protocol. We do know
about scaling issues that are likely to catch up to the current mazachain, but we know better ways to use it as well. I've put a great deal of time into scalable designs, and
would be delighted to discuss those with a team that can execute on them.

There is a clear fact that absolutely must be addressed before MAZA can proceed - MAZA is not secure by any measure. The current blockchain network is sha256-pow, and therefore it necessarily competes with Bitcoin for hashpower. This competition means that the network is 100% always at risk, and cannot be secured fully by this hashpower alone. There are several approaches to take, but most leave the network still exposed to large amounts of rentable hashrate. One example here is merged-mining. The largest of mergemined sha256 coins, namecoin, has a significant share of the bitcoin hashrate. While namecoin is largely secured, the same effect isn't seen in other merge-mined sha256 coins - UNO, CRW (Crown) included. CRW has typically around 16PH/s when I last checked, while UNO was around 5-8PH/S - Antpool alone is sporting 1300PH/s, and available hash on rentals is over 150PH/s. This means it's very unlikely to secure the network by mergedmining alone.  

I've fielded several questions about MAZA converting to an ERC20 token on ETH or another EVM. I understand the reasoning for this, and while I think that could provide some immediate relief to current bagholders investors I don't think that it leaves a long term value proposition. That said, I think that smart contract based tokens, and the ethereum platforms in general are important to MAZA's success.

The low price of maza has definitely concentrated a good deal of it into just a few hands. This necessarily affect how we can, and must proceed forward. Perhaps the best example is to consider the idea that MAZA convert to a PoS consensus mechanism. It's clear form the behavior of so very many peercoin-protocol and NXT protocol PoS coins that the concentration of coins in just those few hands will lead us into a race to the bottom in the market, and leave us in no better situation for network security than the current mining situation. There are valid functions that can utilize PoS, albeit in a much larger overall network design than just a simple Satoshi Transaction Processor (bitcoin protocol blockchain).

I'm also firm in the knowledge of the value that Proof-of-Work mining brings to the network. The value of the hardware investment brought to the network is a very concrete measure of the value of the network itself. When we look at the development in Bitcoin, Litecoin, DASH, Siacoin, and others, we can see that it's not just the actual mining hardware itself that does this. Over the course of the years, we've seen the development of ASIC technology, which has lead to the biggest miners needing to produce their own chips. That, combined with the lack of chip fabrication facilities worldwide has lead to those ASIC manufacturers having to build their own ASIC plants. As competition narrows margins in mining, those miners need to look for new advantages, and this will necessarily lead to new hardware & facilities investments. We can easily expect that power generation facilities are in the minds of the top miners, and manufacturers. Each of these makes the network much more secure.

Unfortunately, because MAZA shares hashpower with Bitcoin, this investment in hardware & facilities is not an investment in the maza network, nor does MAZA derive any other type of value-benefit from this. Other options must be explored. While a PoW change is one possible path, the level of expertise required to develop a new mining algorithm plus the level of capital required to develop new ASIC technology, and produce ASICs for it is very significant. I do think there are other approaches that we can take to bring some of that hard investment value to the MAZA network directly, but to address those would take more space than we have here.

So, if you are able to help with

Communications & Marketing
Community leadership
Web Development
Code maintenance
Code development
smart contract development
Protocol development
Legal counsel
Business development
Tribal relations

We would very much like to see you become involved.

The current website is on github https://github.com/mazacoin/mazacoin.org
You can see in the library https://github.com/mazacoin that we have several projects and need people who can work in
C/C++, Java, Javascript, Python, go. We also will need rust development expertise.

It's very important that we assemble a team that is able to execute on our ideas as we develop them.
Competition in crypto is severe, ideas are easy, execution is hard.
Before I discuss too much of my own work, I need to see that we have this ability.
My own skill is not in development of code - for any of the ideas I have to bear fruit, I will need to work with more skilled people.

Its important as we move forward that we bring the network back to serve those people it was intended to serve, and fulfill Payu's original vision,
while not unnecessarily limiting ourselves to just the ideas it was created upon. The entire market has matured significantly since the Mazacoin Genesis Block,
and so now must MAZA in order to succeed.

If we're to expect Oglala Lakota SiouxTribe, or ANY other North American tribes to work with MAZA, we must provide them with the inroads to do so. Simply put, asking a tribe to buy some MZC on the exchange is not the path to success. We need to provide them the inroads to put value in, as well as derive utility from the MAZA network. This cannot be done while the majority of the circulating supply of MZC is in just a few hands.

This brings me to the current investors baghodlers & miners, of which I am one (though by no means am I a majority hodler, nor sadly am I able to mine today )
In order for MAZA to succeed, the coin needs to become more widely distributed, and by more rapid means than the limited trading markets will allow. In my own opinion, the network has a responsibility to you, the baghodler, and especially miners who've become hodlers. You need to make a fair profit on those coins you've been holding for, likely, some time. You need also to understand that part of the network is YOU. You need to provide value to the network to get value out - simply acquiring coin at the lowest price the market will bear isn't sufficient. We need your participation to move forward. You need to help you decide how you're going to get your value and ROI from MAZA. MAZA is, after all, an autonomous organization - it only works if we all work on it.

MAZA is not a corporation - MAZA does not have a foundation. There is no entity that can steer it but itself. If MAZA wants to remain autonomous,
it must not find itself under the control of either a corporation or a foundation, nor may it become one. To do so, it must build itself the capabilities needed to
develop and maintain itself, and fund that work.

With all this in mind, I'd like to encourage you to join us on Telegram, and bring your friends.
We need a large team if we're going to succeed in a world that includes Bitcoin, Dash, Tezos, Ethereum, EOS, LTC.
We've got a lotta work to do if we want MAZA to be the success that we all know it can be.

 - Rob


EDIT 14 Jul 14:30 - updated MAZAtribe Telegram link

very generous donations Peter, I ma sure team will be grateful

reading owlhooters post Peter, I think this is best donation address to send to:
MS5LqNWzrRo6DXzjXcafrCpWJL2NUXGRv5

 i will send some too in due course, to the address above
as they have personally built up the amount, the mzc dev core team.
the other address you mention I am not sure who controls or if they now have access or passwords, or is the burnt address mentioned as keys lost.
so possibly you sent 400k to an address can't be accessed, the one I mentioned owlhooter stated was definitely under their control and they are personally adding to. which is great as only makes sense to use some for dev purposes when mzc is at a reasonable level

from what i understand this is the key address , maybe owlhooter could clarify or another member of core dev team that this is the only address they control and send to

bittrex NUKED mazacoin because they knew it actually has a purpose funding activism !(*see Standing Rock)
 :\ fuck you Bittrex Bill, you will soon find my foot up your ass!!

http://mazacoin.thecoin.pw/address/MS5LqNWzrRo6DXzjXcafrCpWJL2NUXGRv5
balance 20,373,111.43724523 mzc

http://mazacoin.thecoin.pw/address/MNG15HKzUQeiT8QmtAghvSKpQwwgzZSFzS
balance 13,026,249.80000000 mzc



 ...

Donated 400k to each premine account.



totals in premine accounts are now

20773111.43714523 / http://mazacoin.thecoin.pw/address/MS5LqNWzrRo6DXzjXcafrCpWJL2NUXGRv5
+
13426249.79990000 http://mazacoin.thecoin.pw/address/MNG15HKzUQeiT8QmtAghvSKpQwwgzZSFzS
-------------------
34,199,361.237 / 50,000,000 according to the Google calculator

So if another 15,800,638.763 is donated the premine will be full and the devs can use 100% of it for an original purpose.

I have followed the coin a bit and researched a bit and to the best of my knowledge the devs are honest folk who will develop the coin properly if given the chance. If a few more people who have much bigger stakes in this coin help restore the original account, I'll donate more as other coins do well. The original problems with the premine, and other issues Maza had were largely the result of sloppiness I believe, not any maliciousness. Aside from a lot of poverty there is politics in that region people have to deal with, along with some pretty aggressive online attacks against the original devs, as some might remember.

The premine itself is not a big deal, it's actually a pretty small percentage of total coins, but symbolically it would be good to fix problems in this coin as they arise, rather than compensating for problems by invading other nations, as the oligarchs of another currency used in this region are prone to.

The original premine was 50 million MZC, divided into 2 wallets.  The Dev team has control of one of these wallets as it was handed over and the Maza for that is at address MS5LqNWzrRo6DXzjXcafrCpWJL2NUXGRv5  The previous dev in control of the wallet at time of creation had sold some of the MZC in that wallet to try to cover server costs, without disclosing the spending.  When it was handed over to the current Dev team in 2014 it had 16.8 million MZC of the 25 million left in it and we have built it back up to around 20 million.  The other 25 million from the premine was lost to the block chain due to a forgotten password when someone encrypted a wallet, so it's already been burned.


The original premine addresses are as follows:
MNG15HKzUQeiT8QmtAghvSKpQwwgzZSFzS  - password lost to original wallet (13 Million still sitting there) as well as the wallet that coins were transferred to (However, upon further inspection of the blockchain it appears the 12 million transferred out might have been recovered by someone as it seems to have possibly moved since I was told it was lost.
MKhbYDjoEUUJq1xoLqT5Xe4yLCNa1qWKqT - balance of coins stored at MS5LqNWzrRo6DXzjXcafrCpWJL2NUXGRv5


So at present there is around 13 million (possibly more) that is lost.  The 20 million is held by stronger willed individuals that will not touch it for any personal gain.  So that leaves 17 Million out of the original 50 million that is unaccounted for, and that was unaccounted for when the current dev team took over.

I'm not going to push the issue, but I have been keeping track of MZC for a while. The premine was not adequately monitored and early on the devs made a great effort to straighten it out, but it was not straightened out. The premine has to be dealt with properly and I think the best idea is for devs to clarify how much of it is still in their control and how much was lost. Then there can be an effort to clean it up. It is the one real cloud hanging over Maza. It was a small premine, and the intentions were good, but in the chaos of early days it was not handled well.

If devs announce a fund to raise as much of the premine as was lost, and burn the coins or donate them to a tribal entity that can be trusted, I can probably donate ~ 500k. I know of at least one other person who will probably donate more than that.

Mazacoin does have a history, better than most coins, but it also has that problem which has to be addressed.

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added
regarding price, of course it will go up a lot.  

also, I know there was no dev fund and devs worked a lot and traveled a lot on their own dime helping people learn about crypto. The premine was not taken by the devs and they had no fault in whatever happened, but there is a responsibility to clean it up. Somebody who remembers better what happened might explain in more detail...

the premine was just 25 million I think and thats held in a tribal trust
is untouched

plus no coins were mined as dev fund like most coins now, is a a good idea sometimes as aids development and is not free
look at expanse, millions premine and most if not all is able to do by dev

I see a lot of things happening with maza right now. wildly underpriced, that will change
it can go 100 fold

I don't mine, but I notice that there are more peers now than when it was on Bittrex, http://mazacoin.thecoin.pw/network , which is weird. The network also looks good at Cryptopia https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=MZC but when you look for pools all of them are old. Maybe it is only a lot of individuals mining? Not sure really.

Almost anything would cause the price to go up at this point lol. 

Remember back when this coin started a huge amount of publicity. Then a lot of negative comments like people used to do a lot about new coins. Looking back, Maza comes out as one of the better old coins anyway. The premine was handled poorly, but at this point it is only a small amount anyway. It was 25 or 50 million? We could probably create a donation address to get that many mzc and if we reached the premine amount then burn the coins or give them to 'somebody' to manage, and call the premine cleaned.

Payu put more effort into Maza than almost any dev from that area. Who knows if he quit or if he's running around the hills in a beat up pickup truck trying to giveaway mazacoins.

Are there any working pools for this?