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Topic: [ANN][NEOS]Neos v2.0.1 Released - Official Upgrade Thread - Performance & More - page 20. (Read 84749 times)

legendary
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ALL CPU coins will run into this same issue if their value is good enough to attract the botnet criminals. You either have to live with their influence, come up with a way to slow or stop them like SPR, or drop CPU support altogether. XMR is a good example of another innovating coin (not even multi, just CPU) that was highly abused by botnets until its difficulty/market value drove a lot of its bots to greener pastures (ie: neos and other blake coins). It may or may not recover either...

It's bad enough that we are losing X11. The problem isnt multi-algo, its botnets killing your price. Just getting rid of the blake would have X11 and SHA coming back online after the botnet flooding stops. But, no, instead you choose to lock it into the rich ASIC guys and hope they even bother to look this way when you go up against the bitcoin and other SHA market evals. I don't really think you folks have thought this through. If so, I think you would have gone with X11 instead of SHA. or done something like SPR that kills the bots but still allows CPU mining. Either one would have stopped the flooding and kept the energy efficient and decentralized mining intact. What you are doing feels like overkill. For your sake and my bag, I hope I am wrong...

Hell, at this point I'd just be happy to be able to upgrade from a functioning v1.2 to v2+ without having to start over with a completely new address! What a pain! http://127.0.0.1:18000 simply isn't there... After 2 hours of dicking with this, I'm about ready to dump it all for something that is isn't actively trying to be ASIC centralized, is easy to install, and works out of the box!

I noticed a couple of details here, you point out other projects in both of your posts and passively suggest you're moving onto another project.  That and the fact we've never had a version 1.2 and the instructions from moving from 1.0 to 2.0 were pretty clear with the majority of people upgrading seamlessly (even though I'll even say 1.0 -> 2.x wasn't the smoothest even).  You claim to have been running Neos since v1, yet I've never nor has anyone on the team received a request for support from you or have even see your name - yet all of this time (months now) has passed and you've brought this to attention here on a major announcement post of ours.  Doesn't really sound all that genuine and typical attempt to talk Neos down while pushing other cryptos.  Pretty low.

      Best regards,

syntaks
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Trphy.io
looking forward to 2.0.2
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Does myriad (or any multi-algo) coin have the same troubles that neos was having?

ALL CPU coins will run into this same issue if their value is good enough to attract the botnet criminals. You either have to live with their influence, come up with a way to slow or stop them like SPR, or drop CPU support altogether. XMR is a good example of another innovating coin (not even multi, just CPU) that was highly abused by botnets until its difficulty/market value drove a lot of its bots to greener pastures (ie: neos and other blake coins). It may or may not recover either...
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Does myriad (or any multi-algo) coin have the same troubles that neos was having?
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It's bad enough that we are losing X11. The problem isnt multi-algo, its botnets killing your price. Just getting rid of the blake would have X11 and SHA coming back online after the botnet flooding stops. But, no, instead you choose to lock it into the rich ASIC guys and hope they even bother to look this way when you go up against the bitcoin and other SHA market evals. I don't really think you folks have thought this through. If so, I think you would have gone with X11 instead of SHA. or done something like SPR that kills the bots but still allows CPU mining. Either one would have stopped the flooding and kept the energy efficient and decentralized mining intact. What you are doing feels like overkill. For your sake and my bag, I hope I am wrong...

Hell, at this point I'd just be happy to be able to upgrade from a functioning v1.2 to v2+ without having to start over with a completely new address! What a pain! http://127.0.0.1:18000 simply isn't there... After 2 hours of dicking with this, I'm about ready to dump it all for something that is isn't actively trying to be ASIC centralized, is easy to install, and works out of the box!
hero member
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some can still mining with blake apparently...
Pretty sure the changes will be in effect in a few days Smiley
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Trphy.io
Heading in the right direction !
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some can still mining with blake apparently...
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Its great, it will diminish the sell pressure significantly.

Yep, I think it's buy-in time for me.
hero member
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sha256 - only?

temporarily or permanently?
Permanent, but you can always mine from the MP with x11 and I'm not sure what else Smiley

Its great, it will diminish the sell pressure significantly.
sr. member
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sha256 - only?

temporarily or permanently?
hero member
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DO NOT DOWNLOAD FROM ANYWHERE ASIDE FROM OUR SITE.

Do not fuck with my community.  Post your virus links elsewhere.

Fuckn tell em syntaks! Wink
legendary
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DO NOT DOWNLOAD FROM ANYWHERE ASIDE FROM OUR SITE.

Do not fuck with my community.  Post your virus links elsewhere.
legendary
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My pleasure man.  I mean ultimately the goal here is to maintain a sustainable presence with the interest of the community in mind.  The past 3 weeks of work towards making this fork happen wasn't on a whim or by choice but done after some serious collaboration, thought, and foresight.  Now I can get back to work on 2.0.2 =).

     Best regards,

syntaks
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Heading in the right direction !
+1

Definitely the right direction! Wink
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The announcement post for the hard fork and new changes can be read over at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888466.new#new

     Best regards,

syntaks
Awesome, keep up the good work.
Great stuff! Very happy with the changes, happy to keep seeing how were all in great hands, good looking out syntaks! Cant wait for V2.0.2!
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BitcoinStoreStarter.com
The announcement post for the hard fork and new changes can be read over at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888466.new#new

     Best regards,

syntaks
Awesome, keep up the good work.
legendary
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The announcement post for the hard fork and new changes can be read over at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888466.new#new

     Best regards,

syntaks
legendary
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Sorry folks!  The windows patch is being built now and I'll announce directly following that!

     Best regards,

syntaks
legendary
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Update: working on patch installers and then I'll be making the announcement. Sorry this is taking as long as it is, it's a process.

     Best regards,

syntaks

c'mon syntaks i have broke my F5 key  Cheesy

lol +1 , cant wait aswell will be great Cheesy
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