How about making things right with the twitter account and the community fund? Until then, your credibility is zero.
What's this about the community fund? Can you elaborate?
Topic: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][QuarryMN][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view - page 29. (Read 38769 times)
March 30, 2018, 04:30:18 PM
How about making things right with the twitter account and the community fund? Until then, your credibility is zero.
What's this about the community fund? Can you elaborate?
March 30, 2018, 04:26:54 PM
This is really sohcking. I was interested in EGEM because it seemed like a good opportunity and a cleaner ELLA with no centralization.
But from the look of things, these guys are really scammers. They advertised no premine, but there's a huge premine as some people have already pointed out. Just check the address:
0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
It's legit.
EGEM is really a huge nightmare after I saw this, and then looked up its history. Turns out it was originally called "ELLAGEM." But then the devs couldn't even agree on which coin they wanted to base themselves off of. So they decided to go off of the more popular ethereum, and somehow, despite all the code, they did some night hours monkeying and changed their whole coin so that it runs as an Ethereum clone instead rather than an Ella clone, so now it's EtherGem LOL.
If you don't believe me, you can see their history yourself if you research it.
And now they sneakily put in this premine... oh no....
But from the look of things, these guys are really scammers. They advertised no premine, but there's a huge premine as some people have already pointed out. Just check the address:
0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
It's legit.
EGEM is really a huge nightmare after I saw this, and then looked up its history. Turns out it was originally called "ELLAGEM." But then the devs couldn't even agree on which coin they wanted to base themselves off of. So they decided to go off of the more popular ethereum, and somehow, despite all the code, they did some night hours monkeying and changed their whole coin so that it runs as an Ethereum clone instead rather than an Ella clone, so now it's EtherGem LOL.
If you don't believe me, you can see their history yourself if you research it.
And now they sneakily put in this premine... oh no....
This is just the first day. Things will be corrected. No premine. We are working out the details now. More info to follow.
How can you just say "this is just the first day?" You sound like those wallets that got hacked and all you can say is, "lol this is just the first oversight. Dw, it'll be fixed bby."
HOW DO YOU MISS A 12 PERCENT PREMINE? Dude! Did you guys just copy and paste the ethereum code, then slap on the EGEM name?
I'm not trying to be a dick, but c'mon, you're overly downplaying this obviously huge deal.
You have, what, 10 devs on your team. All of them missed the 12% premine. I think that speaks to a lot of your competencies. I hope everyone takes note of who the core team is so they can watch out for these people in the future. It's obvious they're either highly incompetent or scammers.
Anytime any of them are on a project, make sure to scrutinize that project with enough depth and voracity to make sure there's some legitimacy.
I mean like, how does that happen? When you say there's no premine, aren't you supposed to literally check for a premine. Like, you know, using due diligence, and logic, this should be the very first step.
No other eth clones have had an issue this big... look at ETC, ELLA, and others.
Ironically, if you had just stuck with being based off of Ella, you would never have fun into this problem because Ella's code is original. But since you copied Eth's code, it came with Vitalik's original premine...
So I mean, even if this "accidental premine" is fixed. How do we know your project is legit? What if we invest or mine EGEM and waste electricity and money, and then suddenly there's some other huge hole that ends up happening because you guys didn't see it?
I will watch EGEM, because I believe some of you on the core team are truly trying to make a project worth being made. I hope you guys step it up and cover for the other devs who miss these holes.
March 30, 2018, 04:20:50 PM
Egem was made by a few people that threw a huge hissy fit over some trivial dispute with the original Ellaism dev, cursed everyone that disagreed with them, used nasty personal insults, and hijacked the Ellaism twitter and the community funds. They were self important jackasses that claimed to have done SO much of the work for Ellaism and "got Ellaism to where they are today".
That's the character of the team you are dealing with, is it any wonder they would be discovered with this utter incompetence and/or straight up scam? I want to know which one it is though, since you claim to have done SO much for Ellaism, but apparently can't even check the copy and paste code for a huge pre-mine? Or are you guys straight up just scamming people into buying/mining/supporting your coin?
That's the character of the team you are dealing with, is it any wonder they would be discovered with this utter incompetence and/or straight up scam? I want to know which one it is though, since you claim to have done SO much for Ellaism, but apparently can't even check the copy and paste code for a huge pre-mine? Or are you guys straight up just scamming people into buying/mining/supporting your coin?
There are many things which happened, that is all in the past. Moving forward we will make things right with this oversight regarding the premine.
How about making things right with the twitter account and the community fund? Until then, your credibility is zero.
March 30, 2018, 04:05:53 PM
Egem was made by a few people that threw a huge hissy fit over some trivial dispute with the original Ellaism dev, cursed everyone that disagreed with them, used nasty personal insults, and hijacked the Ellaism twitter and the community funds. They were self important jackasses that claimed to have done SO much of the work for Ellaism and "got Ellaism to where they are today".
That's the character of the team you are dealing with, is it any wonder they would be discovered with this utter incompetence and/or straight up scam? I want to know which one it is though, since you claim to have done SO much for Ellaism, but apparently can't even check the copy and paste code for a huge pre-mine? Or are you guys straight up just scamming people into buying/mining/supporting your coin?
That's the character of the team you are dealing with, is it any wonder they would be discovered with this utter incompetence and/or straight up scam? I want to know which one it is though, since you claim to have done SO much for Ellaism, but apparently can't even check the copy and paste code for a huge pre-mine? Or are you guys straight up just scamming people into buying/mining/supporting your coin?
There are many things which happened, that is all in the past. Moving forward we will make things right with this oversight regarding the premine.
March 30, 2018, 04:02:32 PM
This is really sohcking. I was interested in EGEM because it seemed like a good opportunity and a cleaner ELLA with no centralization.
But from the look of things, these guys are really scammers. They advertised no premine, but there's a huge premine as some people have already pointed out. Just check the address:
0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
It's legit.
EGEM is really a huge nightmare after I saw this, and then looked up its history. Turns out it was originally called "ELLAGEM." But then the devs couldn't even agree on which coin they wanted to base themselves off of. So they decided to go off of the more popular ethereum, and somehow, despite all the code, they did some night hours monkeying and changed their whole coin so that it runs as an Ethereum clone instead rather than an Ella clone, so now it's EtherGem LOL.
If you don't believe me, you can see their history yourself if you research it.
And now they sneakily put in this premine... oh no....
But from the look of things, these guys are really scammers. They advertised no premine, but there's a huge premine as some people have already pointed out. Just check the address:
0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
It's legit.
EGEM is really a huge nightmare after I saw this, and then looked up its history. Turns out it was originally called "ELLAGEM." But then the devs couldn't even agree on which coin they wanted to base themselves off of. So they decided to go off of the more popular ethereum, and somehow, despite all the code, they did some night hours monkeying and changed their whole coin so that it runs as an Ethereum clone instead rather than an Ella clone, so now it's EtherGem LOL.
If you don't believe me, you can see their history yourself if you research it.
And now they sneakily put in this premine... oh no....
This is just the first day. Things will be corrected. No premine. We are working out the details now. More info to follow.
March 30, 2018, 03:10:38 PM
Egem was made by a few people that threw a huge hissy fit over some trivial dispute with the original Ellaism dev, cursed everyone that disagreed with them, used nasty personal insults, and hijacked the Ellaism twitter and the community funds. They were self important jackasses that claimed to have done SO much of the work for Ellaism and "got Ellaism to where they are today".
That's the character of the team you are dealing with, is it any wonder they would be discovered with this utter incompetence and/or straight up scam? I want to know which one it is though, since you claim to have done SO much for Ellaism, but apparently can't even check the copy and paste code for a huge pre-mine? Or are you guys straight up just scamming people into buying/mining/supporting your coin?
That's the character of the team you are dealing with, is it any wonder they would be discovered with this utter incompetence and/or straight up scam? I want to know which one it is though, since you claim to have done SO much for Ellaism, but apparently can't even check the copy and paste code for a huge pre-mine? Or are you guys straight up just scamming people into buying/mining/supporting your coin?
March 30, 2018, 02:50:32 PM
This is really sohcking. I was interested in EGEM because it seemed like a good opportunity and a cleaner ELLA with no centralization.
But from the look of things, these guys are really scammers. They advertised no premine, but there's a huge premine as some people have already pointed out. Just check the address:
0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
It's legit.
EGEM is really a huge nightmare after I saw this, and then looked up its history. Turns out it was originally called "ELLAGEM." But then the devs couldn't even agree on which coin they wanted to base themselves off of. So they decided to go off of the more popular ethereum, and somehow, despite all the code, they did some night hours monkeying and changed their whole coin so that it runs as an Ethereum clone instead rather than an Ella clone, so now it's EtherGem LOL.
If you don't believe me, you can see their history yourself if you research it.
And now they sneakily put in this premine... oh no....
But from the look of things, these guys are really scammers. They advertised no premine, but there's a huge premine as some people have already pointed out. Just check the address:
0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
It's legit.
EGEM is really a huge nightmare after I saw this, and then looked up its history. Turns out it was originally called "ELLAGEM." But then the devs couldn't even agree on which coin they wanted to base themselves off of. So they decided to go off of the more popular ethereum, and somehow, despite all the code, they did some night hours monkeying and changed their whole coin so that it runs as an Ethereum clone instead rather than an Ella clone, so now it's EtherGem LOL.
If you don't believe me, you can see their history yourself if you research it.
And now they sneakily put in this premine... oh no....
March 30, 2018, 02:43:10 PM
Okay. Here's the bug detail: your network contains the 72 millions premine from the original Ethereum blockchain. You can confirm the bug in many ways.
Look into the Ethereum premine addresses. For example, the EthDev premine address 0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9 which contains 12 million coins on both blockchain.
EGEM: https://explorer.egem.io/addr/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
PIRL: https://poseidon.pirl.io/explorer/address/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9/
Now have fun.
Look into the Ethereum premine addresses. For example, the EthDev premine address 0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9 which contains 12 million coins on both blockchain.
EGEM: https://explorer.egem.io/addr/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
PIRL: https://poseidon.pirl.io/explorer/address/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9/
Now have fun.
This was unintentional, and will be corrected. How that will be done will be released.
March 30, 2018, 02:33:57 PM
How can you mine this coin? Is Dagger Hashimoto a gpu cpu asics algo? I have never met this, thankful for the information 
March 30, 2018, 02:30:04 PM
Okay. Here's the bug detail: your network contains the 72 millions premine from the original Ethereum blockchain. You can confirm the bug in many ways.
Look into the Ethereum premine addresses. For example, the EthDev premine address 0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9 which contains 12 million coins on both blockchain.
EGEM: https://explorer.egem.io/addr/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
PIRL: https://poseidon.pirl.io/explorer/address/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9/
Now have fun.
Look into the Ethereum premine addresses. For example, the EthDev premine address 0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9 which contains 12 million coins on both blockchain.
EGEM: https://explorer.egem.io/addr/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
PIRL: https://poseidon.pirl.io/explorer/address/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9/
Now have fun.
How did you 'discover' this..?
and why is there 11M egems in that wallet when were only showing 15K....
March 30, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
Wallet?
March 30, 2018, 02:09:15 PM
Okay. Here's the bug detail: your network contains the 72 millions premine from the original Ethereum blockchain. You can confirm the bug in many ways.
Look into the Ethereum premine addresses. For example, the EthDev premine address 0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9 which contains 12 million coins on both blockchain.
EGEM: https://explorer.egem.io/addr/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
PIRL: https://poseidon.pirl.io/explorer/address/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9/
Now have fun.
Look into the Ethereum premine addresses. For example, the EthDev premine address 0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9 which contains 12 million coins on both blockchain.
EGEM: https://explorer.egem.io/addr/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
PIRL: https://poseidon.pirl.io/explorer/address/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9/
Now have fun.
March 30, 2018, 01:49:52 PM
let the fudders role in 
March 30, 2018, 01:46:49 PM
Seems this is a scam, check out their project:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndxdivision-x-communal-validation-and-scam-awareness-3201421
People are not real, I checked out the Linked in Profiles.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndxdivision-x-communal-validation-and-scam-awareness-3201421
People are not real, I checked out the Linked in Profiles.
March 30, 2018, 01:37:53 PM
EGEM devs, your code contains a fatal bug that permits concerned parties to attack the whole network. Please consider immediately stop the launch. Once the launch stops, please get in touch with me to get the bug details. Ironically, PIRL, and only PIRL, is affected by the same issue. Every single other clones I checked, EXP, UBQ, MUSIC, ELLA, ETSC, PGC, etc, at least get this correctly.
No offense, however I truly think EGEM devs are guilty here. The code looks like to be developed by a bunch of script kiddies but not professional developers, and I wouldn't be surprised if comparable bugs were discovered later. I urge investors to do your own research. If you can, investigate the code. This could help you to identify scams like this.
No offense, however I truly think EGEM devs are guilty here. The code looks like to be developed by a bunch of script kiddies but not professional developers, and I wouldn't be surprised if comparable bugs were discovered later. I urge investors to do your own research. If you can, investigate the code. This could help you to identify scams like this.
FUD MUCH?
Haha, okay. If I'm treated like this, I'll let your competitors to know the bug detail first. They're not affected anyway.
Just wait.
This seemed like it was the end result anyway.
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March 30, 2018, 11:55:27 AM
EGEM devs, your code contains a fatal bug that permits concerned parties to attack the whole network. Please consider immediately stop the launch. Once the launch stops, please get in touch with me to get the bug details. Ironically, PIRL, and only PIRL, is affected by the same issue. Every single other clones I checked, EXP, UBQ, MUSIC, ELLA, ETSC, PGC, etc, at least get this correctly.
No offense, however I truly think EGEM devs are guilty here. The code looks like to be developed by a bunch of script kiddies but not professional developers, and I wouldn't be surprised if comparable bugs were discovered later. I urge investors to do your own research. If you can, investigate the code. This could help you to identify scams like this.
No offense, however I truly think EGEM devs are guilty here. The code looks like to be developed by a bunch of script kiddies but not professional developers, and I wouldn't be surprised if comparable bugs were discovered later. I urge investors to do your own research. If you can, investigate the code. This could help you to identify scams like this.
FUD MUCH?
Haha, okay. If I'm treated like this, I'll let your competitors to know the bug detail first. They're not affected anyway.
Just wait.
March 30, 2018, 11:50:42 AM
by stamp a coin Ease with a monetary cap will be applied when the community determines that logical development, and there is no limit to current EGEM.
March 30, 2018, 11:44:41 AM
EGEM devs, your code contains a fatal bug that permits concerned parties to attack the whole network. Please consider immediately stop the launch. Once the launch stops, please get in touch with me to get the bug details. Ironically, PIRL, and only PIRL, is affected by the same issue. Every single other clones I checked, EXP, UBQ, MUSIC, ELLA, ETSC, PGC, etc, at least get this correctly.
No offense, however I truly think EGEM devs are guilty here. The code looks like to be developed by a bunch of script kiddies but not professional developers, and I wouldn't be surprised if comparable bugs were discovered later. I urge investors to do your own research. If you can, investigate the code. This could help you to identify scams like this.
No offense, however I truly think EGEM devs are guilty here. The code looks like to be developed by a bunch of script kiddies but not professional developers, and I wouldn't be surprised if comparable bugs were discovered later. I urge investors to do your own research. If you can, investigate the code. This could help you to identify scams like this.
FUD MUCH?
March 30, 2018, 11:43:24 AM
GL to you sir.
Wow? Okay then. You want haters, you get it. I'll change my bug disclosure strategy to cause as much damage as I can to EGEM.
Good luck to you sir.
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