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Topic: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][QuarryMN][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view - page 27. (Read 38771 times)

jr. member
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the intentions of etherhacker was clear to me on his first post. I mean he insulted the team calling them script kiddies. How am i not to take that as fud?

He was proven right and wasn't just doing it for the FUD. 

Easy to say after the fact. Just saying that his first post was hostile. So i took it as fud. Also at the time that account was brand new and never posted in this forum before.

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You know how they say smart people are always doubting and double checking themselves and the dumb ones are always sure they are right? 

"Useful men, who do useful things, don't mind being treated as useless. But the useless always judge themselves as being important and hide all their incompetence behind authority. There are few things more dangerous than a mixture of power, arrogance and incompetence." 

Well, you were arrogant because you thought you did SO much work for Ellaism, that you "made it what it is today", and so you think you could knock out another block chain in a week. You were so full of yourselves that when the issue presented itself, you didn't like the guy's tone and decided you must have nothing to worry about.  Only to end up eating those words the very next day. 

The fact that Egems so often stress that it is not a "hobby coin" as a dig at Ellaism just makes this accidental premine code debacle that much sadder. 
[/quote] tone or not to have him come here when there were other was of contacting the team members tells me his plan from the begining was to fud. And to have others on his side follow.  How come he hasnt responded to my request to get this to end?
newbie
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the intentions of etherhacker was clear to me on his first post. I mean he insulted the team calling them script kiddies. How am i not to take that as fud?

He was proven right and wasn't just doing it for the FUD. 
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Easy to say after the fact. Just saying that his first post was hostile. So i took it as fud. Also at the time that account was brand new and never posted in this forum before.

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You know how they say smart people are always doubting and double checking themselves and the dumb ones are always sure they are right? 

"Useful men, who do useful things, don't mind being treated as useless. But the useless always judge themselves as being important and hide all their incompetence behind authority. There are few things more dangerous than a mixture of power, arrogance and incompetence." 

Well, you were arrogant because you thought you did SO much work for Ellaism, that you "made it what it is today", and so you think you could knock out another block chain in a week. You were so full of yourselves that when the issue presented itself, you didn't like the guy's tone and decided you must have nothing to worry about.  Only to end up eating those words the very next day. 

The fact that Egems so often stress that it is not a "hobby coin" as a dig at Ellaism just makes this accidental premine code debacle that much sadder. 
jr. member
Activity: 82
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the intentions of etherhacker was clear to me on his first post. I mean he insulted the team calling them script kiddies. How am i not to take that as fud?
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He was proven right and wasn't just doing it for the FUD. 
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Easy to say after the fact. Just saying that his first post was hostile. So i took it as fud. Also at the time that account was brand new and never posted in this forum before.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0

[/quote] the intentions of etherhacker was clear to me on his first post. I mean he insulted the team calling them script kiddies. How am i not to take that as fud?
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He was proven right and wasn't just doing it for the FUD. 
jr. member
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jr. member
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Thanks guys!! Yeah, the giveaways are finally getting started and Mathias is pretty hyped that he can giveaway the EGEM now.... he's pretty cool for doing that.
newbie
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Dimsum and everyone:
To clarify - I control the previously named Ella community Twitter account, as has been done since the beginning. I started the account from scratch and built it to 3500 followers. Those followers still want and ask for updates from me as I have always done (except for a small number who dont like it now which I understand). To be clear - I am not an Egem developer and that account has nothing to do with the Egem team. They have their own twitter account - as can be seen. You can contact me directly to discuss the ella twitter account, but the Egem guys do not control or have anything to do with it. Please contact me directly with any issues or problems regarding that. Thanks, I hope that brings some clarity to the issue.
jr. member
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Hey Dimsum222

I think a few things:

1) I was talking to YOU specifically about the community wallet accusations you were making, and letting every reader (and you) know that we did offer to return the funds to the contributors of that wallet - still waiting on reply... funny thing is I am not a signer on that wallet and I think only one of our dev team is... so unfounded accusations really anyway. Never the less

the other comment was to "etherhacker. We do take any bug report seriously. We were asking if he could please submit a bounty request to help us fix the bug instead of just using it as a means to humiliate us publicly. That first bug was removed when it was reported and we did an entire chain reset to fix it. I think that is taking a report seriously. Our community was strong and supportive of that and it speaks volumes to me as a developer.

I also think the rest of your comments are directed blindly at me as if I am the whole group. I don't have a twitter account or treat anyone with disrespect. The comments about "FUD much" were exactly right on. General respect in the crypto community would be approaching the devs in private not coming over to the ANN and try to disrupt it. I would recommend you reply to tbates76 as he offered to straiten things out in private. Just so you know every one of the guys that did have signatures to that wallet you are mad about said they fully support giving it back to the people who put the money in the wallet. They cant just hand it over to someone else and I am sure you understand that. You see, crypto means a few things for sure:

1) they have the private key they own the funds and can do what they want with them, however, in this case they know the intention of those funds was not for the signers but to enable a community to work together on something. Also in this case it was to work together with a core dev that split that something up when he wouldn't vote on a consensus but left the discord - we know who that is

so....

2) if the transaction fails on smart contract the funds go back to the sender. In this case the contract for that community fund failed so a refund is inevitable and a multi sign wallet is a smart contract on consensys.

I hope you understand and can let this go and move on. EGEM is working  over here with the supportive community we have and that is our focus. The code we worked on was reviewed by thousands of peoples eyes before us (its open source) and we did our best and made some mistakes. We opened up the code for all to see on a testnet plenty of time before the soft launch. I would have expected someone to point out an error then. We fix errors when we find them and when they arise, now, and in the future. There is always a way to fix and move on. We don't have ill will toward the other community you speak of, we had a non consensus and unfortunately can't rectify it.

Please contact one of us in private to settle any issues from here on out. This ANN is for EGEM and that community. Thanks.
newbie
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Hey, bud, - why are you trying to rain on our parade? Submit a proper bounty request in private as is standard. This way everybody is happy. This is not a hobby coin so please don't FUD it. None of the ETH coins would have ever moved from that wallet because the ETH devs are pretty good guys - I know because when I worked on ELLA I asked them questions about the code and they asked me if ELLA was a copy paste scam. I told them no its not - its a legit coin. Now, please give us same respect.
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Well since it's not a hobby coin, and you guys are taking it so seriously, it sounds like it's a real "professional' coin.  Then why don't you act professionally? 

A professional project would have done the following:
1. return twitter account to the Ellaism community and start your own social media accounts
2. audit your code before official release
3. take bug reports seriously, not "GL to you", and "FUD much?"
4. take the second bug reports seriously
5. treat whistle blowers with respect
6. don't go around blame everyone else for your own incompetence and oversight
7. take criticism seriously instead of just pushing it aside as "raining on your parade", when your parade is one of incompetence and arrogance

So yeah, GL to you, sir. 

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newbie
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What is with your blockchain. Mined it all evening and then BAM and i got nothing on my wallet.
It was  Blockchain Height 9100+ and now  Blockchain Height: 194
 Angry

Chain was reset to remove the bug which was posted in this thread.
All coins mined up to block 9200 will be refunded.
The dev fee address will pay this out once it has enough to do so.


Haha, no. Your chain contains another bug.

You ignored my advice twice, so your judgement awaits. I will wait longer this time so you cannot relaunch again.

What a scam this is... I mean, after one serious bug, the developer is so incompetent that they even refuse to take time to review the code.

Hey, bud, - why are you trying to rain on our parade? Submit a proper bounty request in private as is standard. This way everybody is happy. This is not a hobby coin so please don't FUD it. None of the ETH coins would have ever moved from that wallet because the ETH devs are pretty good guys - I know because when I worked on ELLA I asked them questions about the code and they asked me if ELLA was a copy paste scam. I told them no its not - its a legit coin. Now, please give us same respect.

Oh? Continue to call my generous advice and bug report as FUD? Then you'll get what you deserve.

I'll say it again. You guys are not competent developers. Stop the launch immediately and get a proper blockchain developer to review you code before relaunch again. This is my last time posting advice to you.

And just so you know, I asked you to get in touch with me to get the bug detail but you treated me like shit. You didn't show respect to me, so in return, no respect for you as well.
jr. member
Activity: 133
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I have earned 38.23 EGEM since launch with 280 MHs so yes I agree slow and steady. The hash on the chain has been ridiculously good - even through the soft launch adjustment - and we are starting to close in on that 13 second block time just like before.



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sr. member
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Mining this has been interesting so far. No early easy mining rewards, just slow and steady. Some good amount of FUD, with a real bug found early on in the launch by ethhacker. Quite a start.
jr. member
Activity: 82
Merit: 1
What is with your blockchain. Mined it all evening and then BAM and i got nothing on my wallet.
It was  Blockchain Height 9100+ and now  Blockchain Height: 194
 Angry

Chain was reset to remove the bug which was posted in this thread.
All coins mined up to block 9200 will be refunded.
The dev fee address will pay this out once it has enough to do so.


Haha, no. Your chain contains another bug.

You ignored my advice twice, so your judgement awaits. I will wait longer this time so you cannot relaunch again.

What a scam this is... I mean, after one serious bug, the developer is so incompetent that they even refuse to take time to review the code.
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First, I notice every time that I post you pounce. Why is that. I am not a developer, in fact in post 1 its not my name. Why do you continue to attack just my comments? Second I was right in my second reply, anything I said would have ended in this same result. What I dont understand is this.My first reply to you was a question. Not a statement. And then you went off. All your posts in this thread are attacks.  I am taking it personal as you only reply to my comments. I ASK HOW can we end this?
jr. member
Activity: 133
Merit: 7
What is with your blockchain. Mined it all evening and then BAM and i got nothing on my wallet.
It was  Blockchain Height 9100+ and now  Blockchain Height: 194
 Angry

Chain was reset to remove the bug which was posted in this thread.
All coins mined up to block 9200 will be refunded.
The dev fee address will pay this out once it has enough to do so.


Haha, no. Your chain contains another bug.

You ignored my advice twice, so your judgement awaits. I will wait longer this time so you cannot relaunch again.

What a scam this is... I mean, after one serious bug, the developer is so incompetent that they even refuse to take time to review the code.

Hey, bud, - why are you trying to rain on our parade? Submit a proper bounty request in private as is standard. This way everybody is happy. This is not a hobby coin so please don't FUD it. None of the ETH coins would have ever moved from that wallet because the ETH devs are pretty good guys - I know because when I worked on ELLA I asked them questions about the code and they asked me if ELLA was a copy paste scam. I told them no its not - its a legit coin. Now, please give us same respect.
jr. member
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great team, great project  Kiss Kiss Kiss
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Well done, fixed the bugs of the purse!  Smiley


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