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Topic: [announce] Namecoin - a distributed naming system based on Bitcoin - page 77. (Read 596107 times)

legendary
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How's this for a plan? I need the following RPC calls added:
- importprivkey
- dumpprivkey
- importaddress (from codeshark's PR, I can dig the number if needed)
- listunspent
- createrawtransaction
- decoderawtransaction
- getrawtransaction
- sendrawtransaction
- signrawtransaction
- signmessage
- verifymessage
- listaddressgroupings (I can live without this one, but it is useful)

I also need all the tx to be available for querying, not just those for wallet addresses (I think that's already the way it is).

I have a new idea. These would be most important imho:
- importprivkey
- dumpprivkey
- signmessage
- verifymessage


What? Where did you take that those would be the most important *for my needs*? Smiley

So, in a nutshell no, that will not be enough, not even close to it, for my needs. I will, however, be glad to tip anyone that pushes those 4 rpc calls into namecoin.
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1020
[...]
How's this for a plan? I need the following RPC calls added:
- importprivkey
- dumpprivkey
- importaddress (from codeshark's PR, I can dig the number if needed)
- listunspent
- createrawtransaction
- decoderawtransaction
- getrawtransaction
- sendrawtransaction
- signrawtransaction
- signmessage
- verifymessage
- listaddressgroupings (I can live without this one, but it is useful)

I also need all the tx to be available for querying, not just those for wallet addresses (I think that's already the way it is).

I have a new idea. These would be most important imho:
- importprivkey
- dumpprivkey
- signmessage
- verifymessage


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i'm sure some more people are holding huge stacks of nmc,
they should step-up, join together, make a foundation or something to manage the bounties and pay someone
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There is a little known Namecoin Marketing and Development Fund:
http://dot-bit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=473&p=2694


I was not even aware there is a Namecoin subreddit now: http://www.reddit.com/r/namecoin
legendary
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legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
Shouldn't this be in Alternate Cryoptocurrencies?

No. Namecoin is special since it was designed as a complement for bitcoin (data storage, naming spaces, etc) not a competitor (merged-mining).

And besides it has been in this section since April 2011 and now you want to move it?


snailbrain:

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Namecoin-qt - based on Namecoin 3.50 + Latest Bitcoin-qt

Awesome. I think this alone will be sufficient to revive interest in namecoins and its vision. Make sure it is well-tested, I can help with that ...
hero member
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This is a preview:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40390855/namecoin_wallet.html
Logo, domain, translations will come and may be other features also.
hero member
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Shouldn't this be in Alternate Cryoptocurrencies?
Today, yes. But this is a thread of historical value. Above people event planted the rumor vinced could be an alter ego of the great Satoshi himself.  Cheesy

Also it's so messy in the Altcoins section these days.  Wink

Far too many Alt errr Egos  Tongue
legendary
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Shouldn't this be in Alternate Cryoptocurrencies?
Today, yes. But this is a thread of historical value. Above people event planted the rumor vinced could be an alter ego of the great Satoshi himself.  Cheesy

Also it's so messy in the Altcoins section these days.  Wink
legendary
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
hero member
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Namecoin-qt - based on Namecoin 3.50 + Latest Bitcoin-qt

not far off..

currently encrypt wallet not working
and ----->> sending coins seem to go into oblivion Smiley (but working from console it seems).. other than that, seems "ok"... will upload something soon









Good work. I like it.
Namecoin is great.
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My utility is a Merged Bitcoin and Namecoin Address and Brain Wallet with the same private key.
Its a fork of bitaddress.org and the same pass-phrase can be used to generate the BTC and NMC address.
So it is less to memorize. I took this idea from the Casascius utility.
legendary
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Namecoin-qt - based on Namecoin 3.50 + Latest Bitcoin-qt

not far off..

currently encrypt wallet not working
and ----->> sending coins seem to go into oblivion Smiley (but working from console it seems).. other than that, seems "ok"... will upload something soon








hero member
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I have done a little bit Namecoin development in JavaScript but I think it will be useful.
It is still not ready the logo, domain reservation and some translations are incomplete.
Do you want to see it now or do you wait a couple of days until it is ready ?
legendary
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funny.. i actually thought this myself

Satoshi = Vinced
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Also, I will accept paying the bounty for a working namecoind as described above even if it doesn't have the merged mining stuff in, as that is something well served afaik with the outdated client.

That is simply not going to work, unless you mean a namecoin fork or alternative.  Namecoin needs merge mining to at least validate the blocks already made with it active, even if you turn it off in this new version.   Merged mining is a forking change.

I just arrived at the same conclusion myself; I got a nodejs implementation able to connect and download the namecoin blockchain up until the merged mining fork at block 19200. Looks like I'll have to delve into the Aux-POW logic to make any more progress.

Updated Mac port, and a gui version for sending coins for windows as well.

--URL REMOVED--

Can you share the source code? Pushing binaries around is dangerous (for users) at best.

Yes.   Binaries from unknown sources are very dangerous.  

It's great there is some new namecoin work being done, but it has to be in the open for all of us to see or else no one will trust it.

Post the source on github or another suitable location and let us all review it.  


The benefits of having a compiled binary is speed and simplicity in that its one file to move around, but then you run into these issues; you need to have a trusted compiler who can GPG sign the results and be trusted by the community. That's why I'm liking the possibilities of a Nodejs implementation; it has the power of server and a client, and doesn't have to be compiled, so is a lot easier to verify it's not been tampered with. The advancements in the Bitcoin source have added lots of great features for wallet manipulation and security, and building on a different platform doesn't take full advantage of that, but those can be added incrementally. I'm glad this thread necromancy has revitalized some developers to come out of the woodwork! Cheesy
hero member
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ooohhhh aaahhhhhhhh, namecoin updates.  im so excited!
legendary
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My money; Our Bitcoin.
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what has happened to Vinced and Khal?

I'll keep all updated..

I am passionate about NMC, and would love to see this crypto become no1 coin Smiley

As far as I know, Khal is still around but difficult to get hold of ...  Sad

It seems this project has kept him busy recently:
Free bitcoins with Surf4Bitcoin.com


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Will you use some of the money you make from this to do something for namecoin and bring it back from the dead? Or is namecoin a lost cause?    Undecided
I had no time to give to namecoins those last months (spent on charityad mainly), and we still lack support from developers or anybody. Maybe there are some things that could be done to improve this ?
Now that i'm a bit more available (I started to read this forum again some weeks ago :p), i'll take [some] time to make things evolve a bit ( do you know a magical way to get help from people ? :p).



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Namecoin has great potential but had a rocky start with the miners basically raping it in the early days before merged mining, left it hanging for months stuck on a too high difficulty for a short term gain (it actually makes a great case study for a potential bitcoin attack). Many early developers lost interest and moved back to bitcoin and surrounding ventures after the mining attack.

Vinced hasn't been seen since v. early days ... there is some suspicion he was satoshi also (the level of code changes needed, speed and accuracy with which it was produced, use of british english and his disappearance around same time all point towards that). The namecoin idea was partly to keep bitcoin blockchain free from data storage and exclusively for transactions by providing namecoin for data storage ... so nothing has changed, we are still arguing over keeping data storage off bitcoin blockchain but namecoin cannot get even one bitcoin dev interested ...

It is probably the best piece of coding of the alt-coins next to bitcoin but is becoming out-dated and there are some unresolved issues regarding appropriate levels for fees (yes that old chestnut again) which are more complex than bitcoin's issue with fees since name transactions are involved. Nothing insurmountable in my opinion. Namecoin DNS is only a tiny part of what namecoin is capable of ....

Yes I feel it is the only legit cryptocurrency besides Bitcoin itself, since it is not just some pump-and-dump clone coin created only as some get rich quick scheme but has an actual use (potentially many) which, as mentioned, will compliment Bitcoin and not be in competition with it among speculators.  

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Yes, please we need a gavin for namecoin ... or at least a coordinated dev effort. Khal needs help or may even want to hand over the keys to the main github source and forum to allow some new blood in ...

Perhaps if khal sees more people willing to step up and help out he may find more time to devote to it himself.  I hope it can start moving again. Namecoin has so much potential...


legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
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what has happened to Vinced and Khal?

I'll keep all updated..

I am passionate about NMC, and would love to see this crypto become no1 coin Smiley

As far as I know, Khal is still around but difficult to get hold of ...  Sad

Namecoin has great potential but had a rocky start with the miners basically raping it in the early days before merged mining, left it hanging for months stuck on a too high difficulty for a short term gain (it actually makes a great case study for a potential bitcoin attack). Many early developers lost interest and moved back to bitcoin and surrounding ventures after the mining attack.

Vinced hasn't been seen since v. early days ... there is some suspicion he was satoshi also (the level of code changes needed, speed and accuracy with which it was produced, use of british english and his disappearance around same time all point towards that). The namecoin idea was partly to keep bitcoin blockchain free from data storage and exclusively for transactions by providing namecoin for data storage ... so nothing has changed, we are still arguing over keeping data storage off bitcoin blockchain but namecoin cannot get even one bitcoin dev interested ...

It is probably the best piece of coding of the alt-coins next to bitcoin but is becoming out-dated and there are some unresolved issues regarding appropriate levels for fees (yes that old chestnut again) which are more complex than bitcoin's issue with fees since name transactions are involved. Nothing insurmountable in my opinion. Namecoin DNS is only a tiny part of what namecoin is capable of ....

Yes, please we need a gavin for namecoin ... or at least a coordinated dev effort. Khal needs help or may even want to hand over the keys to the main github source and forum to allow some new blood in ...
member
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If someone else is working on this project, let me know asap and I will give up... i wouldn't bother changing or trying to roll out an update namecoin (3.50+) until we find out off the Khal/vinced and/or the community what updates are required... also what i have had done thus far will have been a complete waste of my time.

what has happened to Vinced and Khal?

I'll keep all updated..

I am passionate about NMC, and would love to see this crypto become no1 coin Smiley

what happend? no idea... please someone explain...

Man, i hope you have the knowledge and time to keep going.
We need the Gavin Andressen of namecoin, someone that can do proper bitcoin follow up,

and as the good guys here offering the bounty, they really need to setup a dev team and convince them that nmc
can be as valuable as ltc or more if the proper dev follow-up is mantained.

i'm sure some more people are holding huge stacks of nmc,
they should step-up, join together, make a foundation or something to manage the bounties and pay someone

i would love to help but i'm out off the loop, since i've work long time in IT admin.
legendary
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I didn't think the merged mining issue through, you are correct. I was going for "no need to allow mining" but obviously full merged POW is needed to verify blocks, so that's moot.

So the only viable option is improve on the current 0.3.50 codebase, I guess. I would still think it possible to hook into the latest bitcoind to support NMC, but that's likely much less trivial than I assumed from the start.

How's this for a plan? I need the following RPC calls added:
- importprivkey
- dumpprivkey
- importaddress (from codeshark's PR, I can dig the number if needed)
- listunspent
- createrawtransaction
- decoderawtransaction
- getrawtransaction
- sendrawtransaction
- signrawtransaction
- signmessage
- verifymessage
- listaddressgroupings (I can live without this one, but it is useful)

I also need all the tx to be available for querying, not just those for wallet addresses (I think that's already the way it is).
sr. member
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Reiterating my needs once more: I need namecoind (command line daemon, don't care for GUI) to be rebased on top of a current bitcoind source code so I have access to the newer RPC calls and to allow easy tracking of bitcoin development to leverage the amazing work being done there constantly. All else is sugar, although said sugar is certainly important to increase adoption that is not my current priority.

The bitcoin source is really not architectured to support alts, and given that changes since 0.3 have made this more the case then it was even then I am pretty sure it never will be.     I personally would really like to see the major alts put some effort to bring something like the picocoin codebase into a usable form for this.  As it is built around a library it should prove more easy for the alts to share work and advance some things on their own rather then just somewhat blindly taking random patches from bitcoin on an uncoordinated basis.

It may be easier or at least quicker to add in the RPC calls you want.  That of course does not give you the tracking of the development, but I still think that will only last for a short term once again and a better long term solution is needed.  That said, I think most currently agree with you, as they see it easier to just keep mirroring bitcoin development.

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Also, I will accept paying the bounty for a working namecoind as described above even if it doesn't have the merged mining stuff in, as that is something well served afaik with the outdated client.

That is simply not going to work, unless you mean a namecoin fork or alternative.  Namecoin needs merge mining to at least validate the blocks already made with it active, even if you turn it off in this new version.   Merged mining is a forking change.

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ead of a bounty there's someone willing to take this task for a set price I'll be happy to chip in with NMC, BTC, XRP, LTC and/or TRC. Just state your price and expected time to delivery and we can try and fund that (but ultimately only paid after delivery, though I'll be glad to put the 'prize' in escrow)

I might be up for that, even if I do disagree with the approach.   I know there is some talk of doing this once leveldb is more stable for some of the other chains, and it would be easier to do both at once.
sr. member
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btw: I just put my old windows makefile and some stolen instructions on git: https://github.com/phelixbtc/namecoin


Maybe I am picking the wrong repository?  Why did you pick to fork from  https://github.com/khalahan/namecoin  and not from https://github.com/namecoin/namecoin ?


"the binaries that majority of clients are running are built using khal's source git tree"
https://dot-bit.org/BuildNamecoinFromSource

v350 windows is built from Khal's source.

Hmm... I see that page is from Dec 2011.  I can say that that was not true at that time since I built two of the three clients  available from dot-bit at that time and my two got built from Vince's source at the time.  Of course it was never the head, but when he announced a tagged release.

At that time also, there was no official source.   Guess I will have to ask what is the right one to use then, I thought it would be the official source at this point now that they have one.
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