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Topic: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Batch #1 Ships - page 80. (Read 238910 times)

legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1003
January 21, 2013, 09:34:25 AM


Silly question guys...Where is the logo on the left bottom chip?
Someone grab this guys avatar and post fail all over it. He's 7 tenths of the way there already....

Did you notice that the bottom row is "flipped", genius? (as in upside down)
sr. member
Activity: 306
Merit: 257
January 21, 2013, 09:32:41 AM
Looks like there will be significant over-subscription for the second batch. How will you handle it? Some lottery or auction scheme maybe?
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1003
January 21, 2013, 09:30:34 AM
You guys/gals do not know how to use that tool properly.

You folks don't even know what a JPEG matrix or quantization is nor how the tool even detects changes in an image.

There is nothing wrong with the tool. There is only bad interpretation(s) and bad application(s) of this tool without understanding what it compares.

(I used it several years ago (2006 -2008) when the hacker who made (and introduced) this tool first came out with it. I read the "white" papers on some of his theory and how they detect changes.

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Please don't make fools of yourselves by not knowing how to use the tool properly....

I wrote:
Quote
This photo was manipulated
This is not the original photo, you know it. I do not know what it was manipulated , It is possible that only resize. No exif also indicates manipulation.
I am not outright discouraging you.

I am just pointing out that you are using that tool in the wrong way without knowing how it's detection algorithms work and what they are intended to show.

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You should start off with a program that can compare pixels to pixels. (not through jpeg quantification and matrix mis-matches).

I'll help you out:

http://www.abonsoft.com/pd_imagecompare.html

This is a very crappy but simple pixel level compare software. It should point out what parts are actually different if any. (without the other method which required a better understanding of what the tool actually does or how to interpret the results)
hero member
Activity: 1162
Merit: 500
January 21, 2013, 09:25:31 AM
You're a creepy, stalking motherfucker you know that Frizz23?

Is it my fault that people have to publish everything on Facebook & Picasa these days?

https://plus.google.com/113877645796248769339
member
Activity: 116
Merit: 10
January 21, 2013, 09:24:47 AM
Gross

Says the guy with 5 million jizz references in his profile...
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 532
Former curator of The Bitcoin Museum
January 21, 2013, 09:17:42 AM
How does it work? :
http://29a.ch/2012/4/15/image-error-level-analysis-with-html5
Conclusion?
- This photo was manipulated
Why ?
- who knows...

Was this photo manipulated?
Who knows ...
For me it looks the same  Grin



You're a creepy, stalking motherfucker you know that Frizz23?

I'm betting you're on someone's CHILD SEX OFFENDER LIST.

Gross
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 532
Former curator of The Bitcoin Museum
January 21, 2013, 09:14:47 AM


Silly question guys...Where is the logo on the left bottom chip?
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
January 21, 2013, 09:14:20 AM
You guys/gals do not know how to use that tool properly.

You folks don't even know what a JPEG matrix or quantization is nor how the tool even detects changes in an image.

There is nothing wrong with the tool. There is only bad interpretation(s) and bad application(s) of this tool without understanding what it compares.

(I used it several years ago (2006 -2008) when the hacker who made (and introduced) this tool first came out with it. I read the "white" papers on some of his theory and how they detect changes.

-------------------------------

Please don't make fools of yourselves by not knowing how to use the tool properly....

I wrote:
Quote
This photo was manipulated
This is not the original photo, you know it. I do not know what it was manipulated , It is possible that only resize. No exif also indicates manipulation.
hero member
Activity: 1162
Merit: 500
January 21, 2013, 09:10:44 AM
How does it work? :
http://29a.ch/2012/4/15/image-error-level-analysis-with-html5
Conclusion?
- This photo was manipulated
Why ?
- who knows...

Was this photo manipulated?
Who knows ...
For me it looks the same  Grin

legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1003
January 21, 2013, 09:02:11 AM
You guys/gals do not know how to use that tool properly.

You folks don't even know what a JPEG matrix or quantization is nor how the tool even detects changes in an image.

There is nothing wrong with the tool. There is only bad interpretation(s) and bad application(s) of this tool without understanding what it compares.

(I used it several years ago (2006 -2008) when the hacker who made (and introduced) this tool first came out with it. I read the "white" papers on some of his theory and how they detect changes.

-------------------------------

Please don't make fools of yourselves by not knowing how to use the tool properly....
sr. member
Activity: 966
Merit: 311
January 21, 2013, 08:55:09 AM
The most inconvenient question you can find here:
http://29a.ch/sandbox/2012/imageerrorlevelanalysis/  - Drag & Drop  Avalon's image onto this page.
How does it work? :
http://29a.ch/2012/4/15/image-error-level-analysis-with-html5
Conclusion?
- This photo was manipulated
Why ?
- who knows...

Quote
Having that said the algorithm is not exactly reliable, especially with images that have been rescaled and compressed often/intensely. So take it with a pinch of salt and feel free to have a look at the simple source code.
http://29a.ch/2012/4/15/image-error-level-analysis-with-html5

Resizing an image will cause this tool to report "errors."
legendary
Activity: 2856
Merit: 1520
Bitcoin Legal Tender Countries: 2 of 206
January 21, 2013, 08:54:13 AM
Since I am stamped as a troll in these forums anyway, by so many people I step forward and ask the inconvenient questions:

Where is the image originally from?
Why isn't it in high resolution/uncropped/with exif data?
Why aren't there tons of pictures?
Why is the right chip significantly blurrier than the U4 label next to it?

Where is the image originally from? -> http://puu.sh/1Q8qQ

Why isn't it in high resolution/uncropped/with exif data? -> Handycam/Forumsize/i never do so too

Why aren't there tons of pictures? -> From personal experience.While your at development you rarly think of this.

Why is the right chip significantly blurrier than the U4 label next to it? -> Thats simply camera focus.A closeup cannot be all clear.

Who first posted it? Where?
Why crop it?
Why not make tons of photos in the shipping stage? (Where we are supposedly at)
Then why is the top right sharper than the bottom right and the bottom left sharper than the top left?

The most inconvenient question you can find here:
http://29a.ch/sandbox/2012/imageerrorlevelanalysis/  - Drag & Drop  Avalon's image onto this page.
How does it work? :
http://29a.ch/2012/4/15/image-error-level-analysis-with-html5
Conclusion?
- This photo was manipulated
Why ?
- who knows...

nope!

full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
January 21, 2013, 08:46:45 AM
Since I am stamped as a troll in these forums anyway, by so many people I step forward and ask the inconvenient questions:

Where is the image originally from?
Why isn't it in high resolution/uncropped/with exif data?
Why aren't there tons of pictures?
Why is the right chip significantly blurrier than the U4 label next to it?

Where is the image originally from? -> http://puu.sh/1Q8qQ

Why isn't it in high resolution/uncropped/with exif data? -> Handycam/Forumsize/i never do so too

Why aren't there tons of pictures? -> From personal experience.While your at development you rarly think of this.

Why is the right chip significantly blurrier than the U4 label next to it? -> Thats simply camera focus.A closeup cannot be all clear.

Who first posted it? Where?
Why crop it?
Why not make tons of photos in the shipping stage? (Where we are supposedly at)
Then why is the top right sharper than the bottom right and the bottom left sharper than the top left?

The most inconvenient question you can find here:
http://29a.ch/sandbox/2012/imageerrorlevelanalysis/  - Drag & Drop  Avalon's image onto this page.
How does it work? :
http://29a.ch/2012/4/15/image-error-level-analysis-with-html5
Conclusion?
- This photo was manipulated
Why ?
- who knows...
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
LTC
January 21, 2013, 08:36:05 AM

They can send it to me in HK SF express from Shang-Hai it only 1-2 days away.....


If my vote counts, I vote too to be sent to hardcore-fs..
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
January 21, 2013, 08:27:36 AM
Sorry, kano. That was just me asking a dumb question. Answer: SF express.

Sure, I'd love for someone to will-call it, then start posting pictures.
I'm pretty sure that's what that translates to also.
If caoxg wants to correct me - feel free to do so Smiley
They can send it to me in HK SF express from Shang-Hai it only 1-2 days away.....

OK, even 1 or 2 days is better than waiting for 5 to 10 days for it to get to jgarzik ...
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
January 21, 2013, 08:21:40 AM
Sorry, kano. That was just me asking a dumb question. Answer: SF express.

Sure, I'd love for someone to will-call it, then start posting pictures.
I'm pretty sure that's what that translates to also.
If caoxg wants to correct me - feel free to do so Smiley
They can send it to me in HK SF express from Shang-Hai it only 1-2 days away.....
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
January 21, 2013, 08:02:49 AM
Sorry, kano. That was just me asking a dumb question. Answer: SF express.

Sure, I'd love for someone to will-call it, then start posting pictures.
I'm pretty sure that's what that translates to also.
If caoxg wants to correct me - feel free to do so Smiley
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
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January 21, 2013, 07:48:29 AM
Sorry, kano. That was just me asking a dumb question. Answer: SF express.

Sure, I'd love for someone to will-call it, then start posting pictures.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
January 21, 2013, 07:47:22 AM
上海用户能直接发顺丰吗?


 Grin
Yes please - someone - anyone (in China)!
Go pick up the damn thing and start hashing with it.
This delay of not knowing anything about it is quite annoying.
The devices exist (apparently) have been shipped ... and we're gonna have to wait 5 to 10 days to find out for real?
Please if anyone can go visit them and pick it up ... do it!
full member
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