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Topic: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows - page 139. (Read 347340 times)

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It's already added.

4916   SBC   00:26:59   43   1075.55   20   500.45   35.51   1040.04   0.006166 BTC
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TECHNOLOGY, BABY!
Figured I'd just make a quick post here requesting that you add Stablecoin to the cow family Smiley

Currently there's at least one multipool mining it but I cannot figure out which one it is for the life of me, and I'd love to be able to keep some of my hashrate pointed at cows and keep the SBC when it's most profitable since the hashcows pool has a big enough hashrate to make a decent chunk of coins compared to the overall network hashrate.
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I have just a question...if in the last 24h you decided to mine coins based on profitability, but then you trade the same coin (that was profitable at the time) later, when maybe it's not anymore profitable with bitcoins, well the whole point is missing isn't it? Mining a profitable coin and having it traded when it's not anymore..  Huh

For example you mined lot of WDC in the moment it was good, but they're sold the day after when maybe (just as an example) they are worth much less. Do you wait until they go back to the original value when they were mined?

I ask because I know it cannot 100% certain, but I invested a few days I have of 1.5MH/s in your pool to maximise in btc (I'm lazy so I prefer to take maybe slightly less but let you choose what to mine)...but I don't want to waste my limited time mining power Sad

I hope I've put my investment in good hands  Smiley
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Things starting to look bleak once again :/

Trades are once again backed up due to exchanges.

Any news on my little problem? Sent you a pm a while ago.

I am at work if you would like send nearmiss a pm or pm me on here so one of us can fix it for you. Sorry abouy the delays but we will get your coins out we guarantee it.
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How fast are cah out requests processed? I've been waiting on mine for some time now. Sad

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Things starting to look bleak once again :/

Trades are once again backed up due to exchanges.

Any news on my little problem? Sent you a pm a while ago.
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Should be evaluated on how much money can be exchanged for a large number of altcoins. Should not be taken for calculating the best bid on the exchange, as it may be just the bait.

I agree.  The depth table should be used, not just the current best price.  In fact, I think it would be better if it didn't look at anomalous trading prices at all.  It should look at the price at X number of exchanges, add them together, and divide by X.  Otherwise, you're entirely too vulnerable to people gaming the system.  Remember -- people can see what coins are being mined.  And they know there's a delay between mining and payout.  And they can just about predict when you're going to attempt to sell, and where.  Some of that can't be avoided, but it can be minimized.

It should also look at the depth table to ensure that trading is actually occurring at that price, as a sanity check.  If coins are NOT moving on the exchange(s), then almost certainly the price is nonsense.  

Better still, it should not use the reported current prices at all.  It should calculate an average price paid for the last XX coins of that type on that exchange in the last XX minutes.  The time to make sure the price is valid is not AFTER you have a whole bag full of them and are trying to sell them off.  Tiny sales (ie. 0.0000001) could be performed periodically (every few minutes) to ensure that the price is legitimate.

Depth of coins is taken into account, both when determining profitability, and when trading coins.  Your post does include an idea or two I may look at adding however. 

The backlog of current coins/rounds also has nothing to do with us mining a coin we shouldn't have been and now being stuck with it due to prices.  There was only 1 coin affected at the exchange end due to pricing (the rest were api issues), and our decided average price when we hit said coin were all within reason/market levels at that time.
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I think Auto-Trade credit is not credit to my account.

I'm mining for some days but my BTC balance is not changed and also in log i can't see any AT_Credit .
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Guys,

Do u have any plan to add some new coins ?

Yes we are, we talked about a few prospects last night actually. If there is a coin you guys want me to lool at please send me a PM.



Why not make sure you're covering the top dozen or so coins at coinchoose?  I think the name of the coin is irrelevant.  The profitability is the all-important stat.  Sort it by the past week's performance, and get those into the system as fast as possible.

If you wait until half the world already knows about the coin before you add it, you're doing us no favors.  Profitability% over BTC...  That's all that matters.

I assure you we have looked at 90% of the coins out there, you can't just look at coinchoose and say this one would be the best to add, there are other factors to consider with us having so much hash. Low difficulty coins with FAST re-target time (every block etc) doesn't do anywhere near as good as the profitability states, we have tested it and it doesn't do well for the cows.

We added Stablecoin to the line-up last night looks to be a decent coin for payouts, we will continue to monitor it in the near future.
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We'll look at doing a reduced fee promotion or something similar to compensate for the reduced mining time once I gauge the scope.   Apologies for the issues.

Any news on this?
Are things back to normal now?

Things are back to normal yes.

Things do look pretty normal again but before moving my hashes back to your site I'm interested to know if precautions have been taken so this can not happen again in the future. A pool going down is one thing, we have failover settings for that, but a pool accepting my work and not forwarding it to the network to claim the blocks is just a waste of electricity, time and valuable profits.

Did you gauge the actual scope of the losses already and will you do some kind of reduced fees to compensate?
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Should be evaluated on how much money can be exchanged for a large number of altcoins. Should not be taken for calculating the best bid on the exchange, as it may be just the bait.

I agree.  The depth table should be used, not just the current best price.  In fact, I think it would be better if it didn't look at anomalous trading prices at all.  It should look at the price at X number of exchanges, add them together, and divide by X.  Otherwise, you're entirely too vulnerable to people gaming the system.  Remember -- people can see what coins are being mined.  And they know there's a delay between mining and payout.  And they can just about predict when you're going to attempt to sell, and where.  Some of that can't be avoided, but it can be minimized.

It should also look at the depth table to ensure that trading is actually occurring at that price, as a sanity check.  If coins are NOT moving on the exchange(s), then almost certainly the price is nonsense.  

Better still, it should not use the reported current prices at all.  It should calculate an average price paid for the last XX coins of that type on that exchange in the last XX minutes.  The time to make sure the price is valid is not AFTER you have a whole bag full of them and are trying to sell them off.  Tiny sales (ie. 0.0000001) could be performed periodically (every few minutes) to ensure that the price is legitimate.
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Guys,

Do u have any plan to add some new coins ?

Yes we are, we talked about a few prospects last night actually. If there is a coin you guys want me to lool at please send me a PM.



Why not make sure you're covering the top dozen or so coins at coinchoose?  I think the name of the coin is irrelevant.  The profitability is the all-important stat.  Sort it by the past week's performance, and get those into the system as fast as possible.

If you wait until half the world already knows about the coin before you add it, you're doing us no favors.  Profitability% over BTC...  That's all that matters.
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The estimate was completely screwed up today because of exchanges. Nothing we can do, we send the coins to the exchange and we have to wait for them to pop up so we can trade them.

Of course all un-traded coins will be credited to tomorrow's payout.

My payout was 3x the estimate, which was nice.

It really would be a good idea to implement a running total of exchanged so far since the last payout. I know the Cows are busy, and you spend most of your time on keeping the profitability good, but please make it high up on the todo list.

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The estimate was completely screwed up today because of exchanges. Nothing we can do, we send the coins to the exchange and we have to wait for them to pop up so we can trade them.

Of course all un-traded coins will be credited to tomorrow's payout.
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I'm still really confused about the estimated daily earnings...I check it earlier and it said .023, but then I got a payout for .067?

Estimated payouts seem incredibly inaccurate compared to the final payout. I'd much rather see a this is how many of each coin you personally have mined type thing, so you can self estimate it against say cryptsy prices to figure out how much you will likely have once the pool sells the coins for you.
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There should be a trollbox right there on the pools homepage so that peole can shout, "hey switch to such and such coin" and the admins can just do a quick swap...

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I don't think that fruitless rounds are a significant problem at the moment but I think you raise an interesting general suggestion that is worth considering.

Make the check for profitability, and change if appropriate, upon the discovery of a block or after a longer period of time.

I believe this pool has a great framework with unlocked potential profit that can hopefully be found by tinkering with the rules and carrying out some structured testing.

Keep up the good work Smiley

There are a ton of round that say 0 blocks found right now, according to the tracker.

The dev response sounds like this happens fairly often. It should almost never happen.

Just providing the math as to why its almost always pointless to change mid-block.

Wrong, just plain wrong.

It is most profitable in the long run to always mine the most profitable coin. Variance will always even out in the long run, you just need to understand probability. Start by reading this thread from the beginning and also the multipool.us thread where it has been addresses many times before.

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As far as round round switching goes I would hope the major consideration isn't how long has been spent on the current coin, but instead how long the difficulty will stay at its current level on the next coin. When I'm manually pool jumping I always try to check what the current block is in relation to the next difficulty adjustment and average block time so I can figure out if I'm going to see enough rounds for the switch to be worthwhile. If the profit differential is guaranteed to be high enough for long enough to make a switch worthwhile then the switch should be made, regardless of how long has been spent on the current coin. That's the optimal move anyway. I've found it can get a little annoying with some of the coins that have unusual difficulty changing systems (e.g. gradual change each round limited by a factor of x which I can never seem to find published, grr) but that's easy to model around.
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Exchanges backed up :/  Sounds highly plausible given my experiences with them lately...hanging in there in the hopes that things improve soon Smiley
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How fast are cah out requests processed? I've been waiting on mine for some time now. Sad

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Things starting to look bleak once again :/

Trades are once again backed up due to exchanges.
legendary
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Well hello there!
Things starting to look bleak once again :/
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