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Topic: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows - page 142. (Read 347340 times)

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Hey 007 thanks for that. It's a 5770!

edit: yay just restarted with intensity at 15 and got my pc back> certainly enough to use for researching recommended thread-concurrency.

edit: hashing at 184k down from 200+ seems a good compromise

many thanks again

no problem Wink here to help - i have a 6770 and 2 5770s to install atm - i'm going to use 6144 - i'll let you know what i get Smiley
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Lux e tenebris
Hey 007 thanks for that. It's a 5770!

edit: yay just restarted with intensity at 15 and got my pc back> certainly enough to use for researching recommended thread-concurrency.

edit: hashing at 184k down from 200+ seems a good compromise

many thanks again
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Guiminer worked, but made my pc run impossibly slowly. Then it failed on me, but left me with this .bat: ...guiminer-scrypt_win32_binaries_v0.04\cgminer\cgminer.exe" --scrypt -u railzand.1 -p 123 -o stratum+tcp://stratum01.hashco.ws:8888 --gpu-platform 0 -d 0 -w 256 -v 1 -I 18 -g 1 -l 1  --thread-concurrency 3200

The .bat mines great for me, but it has taken me 30 mins just to type thus far, the pc is so slow.

Please would some kindly soul help me tweak my bat?

You'll need to dial back your intensity -I 15 or lower will make it more usable but will reduce your overall hashrate

what card are you running - you might also need to tweak your thread-concurrency

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Complete newbie questions alert

So I just switched my Juniper (yes) from mining btc to Hashcows, and I'm delighted to be collecting a few more very expensive satoshis than I used to.

Guiminer worked, but made my pc run impossibly slowly. Then it failed on me, but left me with this .bat: ...guiminer-scrypt_win32_binaries_v0.04\cgminer\cgminer.exe" --scrypt -u railzand.1 -p 123 -o stratum+tcp://stratum01.hashco.ws:8888 --gpu-platform 0 -d 0 -w 256 -v 1 -I 18 -g 1 -l 1  --thread-concurrency 3200

The .bat mines great for me, but it has taken me 30 mins just to type thus far, the pc is so slow.

Please would some kindly soul help me tweak my bat?
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Hi

Before I start I'd like to say that aTriz & nearmiss deserve a lot of credit for the work they have put in. I am also impressed with their responsiveness to questions and suggestions.

As a lazy miner I am really pleased with both the automatic selection of coins to mine and the automatic conversion to BTC.

With that in mind I hope you take this posting in the spirit it is meant  Grin

I carried out a very unscientific review of the performance yesterday by saving and analysing the Past Round stats from the website.

I recorded rounds 4758 - 4803. In 18 hours the total recorded mining time was 12h 30m 50s which, if the stats are accurate, equates to only 69.5% productive mining time. If this is the case then I would suggest that concentrating on improving the transition between coins should be high on the development list.

I have also noticed a massive change in the performance of my miners when working with the different coins, up to 40% difference in hashrates on a stable rig. When setting the weighting for each coin is this taken into account?

As you can tell I do like to research and crunch the numbers. With that in mind my own personal wish list has better stats at the top. I would love to be able to look at more detailed historic data, beyond the Last 30 Rounds currently visible on the website. I would like to see the actual BTC paid out as well as keep My Estimated Earnings, for comparison. I would also love to see the profitability as calculated at coin selection time and the actual profitability once paid out.

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I realize that MOST people don't mind being paid in BTC at all.  But it would still be nice to be able to choose a payout coin OTHER THAN BTC.  It would be nice if they'd consider adding that feature in the future.
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anyone with around 5 MH figure mining? what was your payout last night?
tnx Smiley
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If they knew in advance what a coin's future price would be then they would be better off trading than running a pool. The best way to try to ensure that they get a good price for a coin is for the coin selection algorithm to take into account market depth on various exchanges, time to mature and transfer a given coin type, and typical trading volumes.

If you want to get slightly more out there in pool design and coin selection I do have one idea (which might require a little extra work). During times in which multiple small network hash coins are significantly more profitable it might be advantageous to split off chunks of the pool's hashpower onto those coins. This would be potentially less damaging to the low hash coins targeted than slamming them with 600MH all at once (making it more likely they can be returned to profitably in the reasonably near future), in some limited situations it could reduce the total miner time lost to rapid coin transitions, under some situations it could be easier to trade smaller amounts of multiple thinly traded coins rather than larger amounts of one, and it might significantly reduce the rate of stales and rejects in some cases. The use would have to be judicious in order to outperform the current method, and obviously you wouldn't want to split while mining FTC for instance, but in some situations it might boost earnings.



Market depth and maturity time are factored in, though many alts are so volatile these days, its interesting times.  Regarding the split hash...I've thought about it quite a bit when I first launched the pool, but dismissed it due to not being compatible with us allowing users to receive payment in the original coin type, as well as being somewhat unfair, if one group of miners hit a higher diff coin than the rest, resulting in fewer rejects and therefore a larger piece of the (presumably shared) pie.    However, it may be possible to accomplish something similar using a specific group of coins with similar attributes, and only every splitting between 2 coins within this group.   Something I'll revisit at some point.
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TL;DR:
1) Trade these coins at the 'profitable' times, after each round..
2) Stash a days' worth of coins. Then as you build up inventory, sell them the NEXT time they are profitable (I realise this may upset some miners, but it would reward the dedicated ones - in fact, this will discourage hopping as well).

The once a day is just when we pay out the miners (as we have to manually transfer and make sure we have enough earned btc in the hot wallet ect.   We trade coins in the background throughout the day!

We somewhat accomplish #2, simply by many coins having a long mature time.  You'd find if you stopped mining, you'd end up with payouts over the next couple of days as well.  Doing this intentionally is an interesting thought.
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You guys having trouble with cashouts?  Tried to do it 3x, but my available balance doesn't update and it's not showing up in my user ledger..

There was a period of about 45min or so where they were held up. Everything should have since been sent by now.
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Yeah the issue is the maturity may take quite some time =\

Let's take a poll on it, I have another miner coming and I'm seeing more profitability at other pools, but I can, and want to totally see hashcows working. Also, you guys need to do a smoother transition when you start mining another coin - start up the other server in parallel and do a proper hand-off so we don't all disconnect and then reconnect.. wasted 30sec every 20min of the day or so, adds up...

If they knew in advance what a coin's future price would be then they would be better off trading than running a pool. The best way to try to ensure that they get a good price for a coin is for the coin selection algorithm to take into account market depth on various exchanges, time to mature and transfer a given coin type, and typical trading volumes.

If you want to get slightly more out there in pool design and coin selection I do have one idea (which might require a little extra work). During times in which multiple small network hash coins are significantly more profitable it might be advantageous to split off chunks of the pool's hashpower onto those coins. This would be potentially less damaging to the low hash coins targeted than slamming them with 600MH all at once (making it more likely they can be returned to profitably in the reasonably near future), in some limited situations it could reduce the total miner time lost to rapid coin transitions, under some situations it could be easier to trade smaller amounts of multiple thinly traded coins rather than larger amounts of one, and it might significantly reduce the rate of stales and rejects in some cases. The use would have to be judicious in order to outperform the current method, and obviously you wouldn't want to split while mining FTC for instance, but in some situations it might boost earnings.

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You guys having trouble with cashouts?  Tried to do it 3x, but my available balance doesn't update and it's not showing up in my user ledger..
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Yeah the issue is the maturity may take quite some time =\

Let's take a poll on it, I have another miner coming and I'm seeing more profitability at other pools, but I can, and want to totally see hashcows working. Also, you guys need to do a smoother transition when you start mining another coin - start up the other server in parallel and do a proper hand-off so we don't all disconnect and then reconnect.. wasted 30sec every 20min of the day or so, adds up...

Yea, we already are working on something along those lines.

Thanks though you bring up great points, we value the feedback.
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Yeah the issue is the maturity may take quite some time =\

Let's take a poll on it, I have another miner coming and I'm seeing more profitability at other pools, but I can, and want to totally see hashcows working. Also, you guys need to do a smoother transition when you start mining another coin - start up the other server in parallel and do a proper hand-off so we don't all disconnect and then reconnect.. wasted 30sec every 20min of the day or so, adds up...
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Okay so finally decided to make an account here and ask this..

Why not trade the coins after each round? These coins are so volatile that by the time it gets to 11pm EST, the 'most profitable coin' is only the one we are mining at THAT time, the rest are completely random, usually less on average.. What's the point of an auto-switching auto-trading pool if it's really 'auto-traded ONCE'? You're better off just stashing each coin till it becomes profitable again THEN sell/dump it..

Is that not how it works, or at least should work? Otherwise this profit-switching thing makes no sense.. I'm fine with a one-time a day payout, but you should be trading these while they're still profitable!

TL;DR:
1) Trade these coins at the 'profitable' times, after each round..
2) Stash a days' worth of coins. Then as you build up inventory, sell them the NEXT time they are profitable (I realise this may upset some miners, but it would reward the dedicated ones - in fact, this will discourage hopping as well).

We do trade coins after they mature, we just simply don't dump the coins, unless they are above our target price. So in theory, we do trade when the coins are at the "profitable" times Smiley

The second point you bring up could work, its a good idea that everyone would need to agree to.

Thanks!
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Okay so finally decided to make an account here and ask this..

Why not trade the coins after each round? These coins are so volatile that by the time it gets to 11pm EST, the 'most profitable coin' is only the one we are mining at THAT time, the rest are completely random, usually less on average.. What's the point of an auto-switching auto-trading pool if it's really 'auto-traded ONCE'? You're better off just stashing each coin till it becomes profitable again THEN sell/dump it..

Is that not how it works, or at least should work? Otherwise this profit-switching thing makes no sense.. I'm fine with a one-time a day payout, but you should be trading these while they're still profitable!

TL;DR:
1) Trade these coins at the 'profitable' times, after each round..
2) Stash a days' worth of coins. Then as you build up inventory, sell them the NEXT time they are profitable (I realise this may upset some miners, but it would reward the dedicated ones - in fact, this will discourage hopping as well).
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I've tried to cash out some tag coins from my account but they just won't go out...

Sorry, TAG got left disabled for payouts due to the recent fork problems.  I've got to go in and clean up some erroneous balances before re-enabling.  I will try and get to this tonight or tomorrow.

This is cleaned up and payouts re-enabled.
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CtmanGer, if you could post your .bat information, we may be able to help you. It likely has nothing to do with your internet connection, just how you configured your miner. I'm also running a 7970 and am getting ~600 kHs.
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Hello Guys

cgminer 3.7.2
I have a GTX770 120-150KH/s - 98% Load for a couple of hours
Wanted to test before I switch to AMD

My Hashrate on the website: 0 Kh/s
and 100% rejected showing on the website

And on cgminer: Rejected 01axxxxxxx Diff 154/15 ......(damn didnt get the rest of it)
but most of the time it announces: Found block from pool 0!

Is it maybe because I have an IPV6 Provider and can`t PortForward?
but cgminer is working fine - gets blocks from stratum pool 0, adjusts difficulty, switches through the altcoins...

I have no clue what to try or do



With cudaminer all is ok

Got cgminer running, but with --scrypt (forgot it Tongue) BUT its hashing with only 10kh on 770
Without --scrypt it was faster but wasnt recognised by the website... sry am a noob
and on a friends 7970 with only 20KH
Friend didn't get it running without --scrypt, too. He has standard dsl,opened all ports

Oooooops found this.... my fault didnt configure it https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/consolidated-litecoin-mining-guide-for-5xxx-6xxx-and-7xxx-gpus-117221
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 I dont think they can do that ShaBan, because they dont know how much it will be since the coins are constantly going up and down and arent sold instantly. Sometimes we will lose a bit, sometimes gain.
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