[ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | New Road Map - page 88.

barabbas

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Quote from: wiser on October 10, 2014, 05:17:22 PM

Quote from: klopper on October 10, 2014, 05:15:21 PM

Okay, let me lay it out for you. Barabbas=IconicExpert.

IconicExpert M.O. = FUD the coin -> But the coin cheap -> Hype the coin.

After growth IconicExpert will hype this coin.

That's why he (along with a couple others) is on my ignore list...

Like I said, immense raw idoicy it all its splendor... wow...

cryptzo

full member

Activity: 140

Merit: 100

Quote from: travis72682 on October 10, 2014, 05:15:37 PM

Quote from: cryptzo on October 10, 2014, 05:13:20 PM

Quote from: bitkokos on October 10, 2014, 05:00:01 PM

Quote from: wiser on October 10, 2014, 04:56:22 PM

Quote from: furcoin on October 10, 2014, 04:50:53 PM

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

This is crypto, not something guaranteed.

NXT had a lot of issues with the wallet even a couple months after it launched. But it's working well now and the coin is going places, and early adopters will probably benefit handsomely.

The main dev here answers questions promptly and applies fixes in a reasonable amount of time.

I think those are good signs.

NXT is doing well because they hired James (jl777)

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

didnt you fix the issue of under 1 seed not staking right earlier this week? did you not test it?

Yeah. I fixed the issue of them not staking at all. But I missed the amount they actually staked for, since they staked so rarely in accelerated testing. Blocks are flying by, and I was more concerned that they were staking at all. I rushed myself through 3 test runs trying to make them work right without disrupting the time scale and I missed that detail.

furcoin

newbie

Activity: 38

Merit: 0

Quote from: bitkokos on October 10, 2014, 05:16:02 PM

Quote from: cryptzo on October 10, 2014, 05:13:20 PM

Quote from: bitkokos on October 10, 2014, 05:00:01 PM

Quote from: wiser on October 10, 2014, 04:56:22 PM

Quote from: furcoin on October 10, 2014, 04:50:53 PM

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

This is crypto, not something guaranteed.

NXT had a lot of issues with the wallet even a couple months after it launched. But it's working well now and the coin is going places, and early adopters will probably benefit handsomely.

The main dev here answers questions promptly and applies fixes in a reasonable amount of time.

I think those are good signs.

NXT is doing well because they hired James (jl777)

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

yes but, for you to make experiments and gain valuable experience, some people lost money. And THEY should be shouting. Not I

If I remember correctly, it was due to the maturing of coins for staking that he fixed. If you have small coins then your coins would not mature in time to take advantage of the growth period. I think it was 24+(24/# of coins). So 1 coin would take 48 hrs to mature vs 0.1 would take 264 hrs ie, 11 days!

wiser

legendary

Activity: 1806

Merit: 1029

Quote from: candlesticks on October 10, 2014, 05:17:13 PM

My larger block just staked at 269% Grin

Yay!

Do larger blocks stake first, given the same number of confirms?

wiser

legendary

Activity: 1806

Merit: 1029

Quote from: klopper on October 10, 2014, 05:15:21 PM

Okay, let me lay it out for you. Barabbas=IconicExpert.

IconicExpert M.O. = FUD the coin -> But the coin cheap -> Hype the coin.

After growth IconicExpert will hype this coin.

That's why he (along with a couple others) is on my ignore list...

candlesticks

sr. member

Activity: 345

Merit: 250

My larger block just staked at 269% Grin

bitkokos

hero member

Activity: 490

Merit: 500

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Quote from: cryptzo on October 10, 2014, 05:13:20 PM

Quote from: bitkokos on October 10, 2014, 05:00:01 PM

Quote from: wiser on October 10, 2014, 04:56:22 PM

Quote from: furcoin on October 10, 2014, 04:50:53 PM

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

This is crypto, not something guaranteed.

NXT had a lot of issues with the wallet even a couple months after it launched. But it's working well now and the coin is going places, and early adopters will probably benefit handsomely.

The main dev here answers questions promptly and applies fixes in a reasonable amount of time.

I think those are good signs.

NXT is doing well because they hired James (jl777)

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

yes but, for you to make experiments and gain valuable experience, some people lost money. And THEY should be shouting. Not I

travis72682

full member

Activity: 168

Merit: 100

Quote from: cryptzo on October 10, 2014, 05:13:20 PM

Quote from: bitkokos on October 10, 2014, 05:00:01 PM

Quote from: wiser on October 10, 2014, 04:56:22 PM

Quote from: furcoin on October 10, 2014, 04:50:53 PM

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

This is crypto, not something guaranteed.

NXT had a lot of issues with the wallet even a couple months after it launched. But it's working well now and the coin is going places, and early adopters will probably benefit handsomely.

The main dev here answers questions promptly and applies fixes in a reasonable amount of time.

I think those are good signs.

NXT is doing well because they hired James (jl777)

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

didnt you fix the issue of under 1 seed not staking right earlier this week? did you not test it?

klopper

hero member

Activity: 616

Merit: 500

Quote from: barabbas on October 10, 2014, 05:09:21 PM

Quote from: klopper on October 10, 2014, 05:06:03 PM

Go troll somewhere else. Some are in profits, some are not. Just the way this coin works - you really have to plan your next moves and think them through.
If you don't like the way it works move on, no one is forcing you to buy or use time on this coin.

And yet another monument to the eternal raw idiocy we see here so often... wow...

Okay, let me lay it out for you. Barabbas=IconicExpert.

IconicExpert M.O. = FUD the coin -> But the coin cheap -> Hype the coin.

After growth IconicExpert will hype this coin.

DenisZabar

sr. member

Activity: 614

Merit: 254

Quote from: travis72682 on October 10, 2014, 05:10:31 PM

Quote from: bitkokos on October 10, 2014, 04:55:09 PM

Just have a look at what I said 5 days ago. You could have lost a lot less if you were reading.
Someone rushed to call me troll for saying this.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9103702

If you didnt scream the same shit for every other coin then I would agree with you....Shit didnt you just say you mined it for 5 days? As for the coin, yeah its becoming a joke pretty quick. If it wasnt bad enough that there were huge stacks staking for days, now the guys with chunks under 1 seed are getting 1% still...

Same problem for me 1% still.

Shutting down my wallet and waiting for the problem be solved. Sad

wiser

legendary

Activity: 1806

Merit: 1029

Quote from: cryptzo on October 10, 2014, 05:13:20 PM

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

I think you're doing a good job.

cryptzo

full member

Activity: 140

Merit: 100

Quote from: bitkokos on October 10, 2014, 05:00:01 PM

Quote from: wiser on October 10, 2014, 04:56:22 PM

Quote from: furcoin on October 10, 2014, 04:50:53 PM

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

This is crypto, not something guaranteed.

NXT had a lot of issues with the wallet even a couple months after it launched. But it's working well now and the coin is going places, and early adopters will probably benefit handsomely.

The main dev here answers questions promptly and applies fixes in a reasonable amount of time.

I think those are good signs.

NXT is doing well because they hired James (jl777)

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

bitkokos

hero member

Activity: 490

Merit: 500

0_0

Quote from: klopper on October 10, 2014, 05:06:03 PM

Quote from: bitkokos on October 10, 2014, 04:55:09 PM

Quote from: lolilo on October 10, 2014, 04:35:04 PM

Come on! this isn't even funny anymore.
people had put their money on this and have been staking for measly 0.00001 while others get a 269% growth on thier coins and obviousy dumping them because they now have more coins then the others.
this isn't fair and very dissapointing.

if this was the first issue than maybe, maybe, it would have been understandable but come-on man this is the fourth wallet version you released in 48 hrs.

why oh why do i make the same mistakes and trust incompetent devs!!!???

best of luck with your coin. i fucking lost 80% on this shit.

Just have a look at what I said 5 days ago. You could have lost a lot less if you were reading.
Someone rushed to call me troll for saying this.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9103702

Go troll somewhere else. Some are in profits, some are not. Just the way this coin works - you really have to plan your next moves and think them through.
If you don't like the way it works move on, no one is forcing you to buy or use time on this coin.

Who planned his next moves with this coin? You or dev ?

travis72682

full member

Activity: 168

Merit: 100

Quote from: bitkokos on October 10, 2014, 04:55:09 PM

Just have a look at what I said 5 days ago. You could have lost a lot less if you were reading.
Someone rushed to call me troll for saying this.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9103702

If you didnt scream the same shit for every other coin then I would agree with you....Shit didnt you just say you mined it for 5 days? As for the coin, yeah its becoming a joke pretty quick. If it wasnt bad enough that there were huge stacks staking for days, now the guys with chunks under 1 seed are getting 1% still...

edit: actually. If they are "smart", those with small chunks arent getting anything right now as their wallets are locked, yet those with multiple seeds are getting their 259% Sooner or later you gotta fuck up for the little guys are it just looks bad..

wiser

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Activity: 1806

Merit: 1029

Cryptzo, I have a couple more questions:

1. What time zone is the wallet on? Is it London Time?
2. If I have two chunks of coin with the same transaction numbers, will the larger one stake first before the smaller one?

barabbas

legendary

Activity: 1162

Merit: 1000

Quote from: klopper on October 10, 2014, 05:06:03 PM

Go troll somewhere else. Some are in profits, some are not. Just the way this coin works - you really have to plan your next moves and think them through.
If you don't like the way it works move on, no one is forcing you to buy or use time on this coin.

And yet another monument to the eternal raw idiocy we see here so often... wow...

barabbas

legendary

Activity: 1162

Merit: 1000

Quote from: cryptzo on October 10, 2014, 05:04:47 PM

Quote from: furcoin on October 10, 2014, 04:50:53 PM

Quote from: wiser on October 10, 2014, 04:36:57 PM

Quote from: lolilo on October 10, 2014, 04:35:04 PM

Come on! this isn't even funny anymore.
people had put their money on this and have been staking for measly 0.00001 while others get a 269% growth on thier coins and obviousy dumping them because they now have more coins then the others.
this isn't fair and very dissapointing.

if this was the first issue than maybe, maybe, it would have been understandable but come-on man this is the fourth wallet version you released in 48 hrs.

why oh why do i make the same mistakes and trust incompetent devs!!!???

best of luck with your coin. i fucking lost 80% on this shit.

You only lost if you dumped.

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

I have to agree that it was experimental. I thought I had gotten on the bugs worked out before I launched it but I was clearly wrong. I only had a small group of people helping me and I'm incredibly grateful to them, but unfortunately some things only became apparent when observed on this scale. Some things are difficult to see when everything is set to go 50 or 100x faster than the final product, and shortening the mining periods and staking periods (as was necessary in order to test in a reasonable timeframe) also skipped over the bugs I've seen since launch.

The only way to really test it was to actually launch it, and I feel awful for the trouble everyone has had so far, but unfortunately these are the types of pains we face when we try doing something that nobody's ever done before.

Something like offering a ridiculous 269% for 7 days, you mean, right? Because there's no innovation whatsoever in your clone coin...

But what is even more amazing is that you got your friends at Pinkcoin to sponsor and promote this mess of yours.

Amazing indeed.

klopper

hero member

Activity: 616

Merit: 500

Quote from: bitkokos on October 10, 2014, 04:55:09 PM

Quote from: lolilo on October 10, 2014, 04:35:04 PM

Come on! this isn't even funny anymore.
people had put their money on this and have been staking for measly 0.00001 while others get a 269% growth on thier coins and obviousy dumping them because they now have more coins then the others.
this isn't fair and very dissapointing.

if this was the first issue than maybe, maybe, it would have been understandable but come-on man this is the fourth wallet version you released in 48 hrs.

why oh why do i make the same mistakes and trust incompetent devs!!!???

best of luck with your coin. i fucking lost 80% on this shit.

Just have a look at what I said 5 days ago. You could have lost a lot less if you were reading.
Someone rushed to call me troll for saying this.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9103702

Go troll somewhere else. Some are in profits, some are not. Just the way this coin works - you really have to plan your next moves and think them through.
If you don't like the way it works move on, no one is forcing you to buy or use time on this coin.

barabbas

legendary

Activity: 1162

Merit: 1000

Quote from: wiser on October 10, 2014, 04:36:57 PM

You only lost if you dumped.

The eternal monument to raw idiocy... sigh...

cryptzo

full member

Activity: 140

Merit: 100

Quote from: furcoin on October 10, 2014, 04:50:53 PM

Quote from: wiser on October 10, 2014, 04:36:57 PM

Quote from: lolilo on October 10, 2014, 04:35:04 PM

Come on! this isn't even funny anymore.
people had put their money on this and have been staking for measly 0.00001 while others get a 269% growth on thier coins and obviousy dumping them because they now have more coins then the others.
this isn't fair and very dissapointing.

if this was the first issue than maybe, maybe, it would have been understandable but come-on man this is the fourth wallet version you released in 48 hrs.

why oh why do i make the same mistakes and trust incompetent devs!!!???

best of luck with your coin. i fucking lost 80% on this shit.

You only lost if you dumped.

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

I have to agree that it was experimental. I thought I had gotten on the bugs worked out before I launched it but I was clearly wrong. I only had a small group of people helping me and I'm incredibly grateful to them, but unfortunately some things only became apparent when observed on this scale. Some things are difficult to see when everything is set to go 50 or 100x faster than the final product, and shortening the mining periods and staking periods (as was necessary in order to test in a reasonable timeframe) also skipped over the bugs I've seen since launch.

The only way to really test it was to actually launch it, and I feel awful for the trouble everyone has had so far, but unfortunately these are the types of pains we face when we try doing something that nobody's ever done before.

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