[ANN][SGL] Sigil - Decentralized, 0% Fee Crowdfunding - page 13.

cdawall

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http://img.techpowerup.org/180212/capture073.jpg

Can you update the wallet so it does this Dev's? It would remove a lot of the questions. This is the QT wallet for honey coin.

Quote from: xxmetalmartyrxx on February 11, 2018, 06:37:09 PM

>assuming it doesn't shoot up in difficulty which it will based on the low difficulty to mine.

Actually, mining difficulty doesn't affect how fast SGL is released, thus it won't epic the staking difficulty. The amount of SGL released is fixed regardless of how many or how few miners there are. Come on cdawall, this is basic stuff. I expect you to understand these kinds of things.

Most of the miners I assuming are holding the coins, because they are not worth as much. Constant transactions kill staking difficulty since the new coins cannot stake if they do not sit in a wallet. That was the reasoning behind my comment. It was a large assumption based on who I see mining and their comments however.

AlexE2E4

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Thank You, Dev's.
Your team killed this project by your overstacking, as i say'd before.
... Miracle did not happen.

xxmetalmartyrxx

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Quote from: cdawall on February 11, 2018, 06:35:28 PM

Quote from: dkmontague on February 11, 2018, 03:45:21 PM

I see your sheet. How many coins do you have staked? I mined 125 coins to the main address, haven't split them up (per their instructions to have at least 100 in each address). Do you think adding addresses with coin control is what makes the difference here?

I have received 1 payout of 25 coins after the first few days (when the staking scandal became more public and im assuming they put a hold on staking temporarily) and then nothing since. There is really no wallet setup to fuck up here on the user end if youre just using the single address with no coin control, so im not sure what you're talking about. The wallet is open on a machine that I leave on 24/7 (no sleep settings, etc) with the wallet always open, showing connections and active staking. It's been like 2 weeks. I am at 2 inputs with 2069 days right now.

I would LOVE to be wrong about this and get staking like you are, but as of now it looks like its not user error and these guys just need to quit being greedy bastards

Minimum staking amount is 50 coins per input. You have next to no weight with 125 coins. I have enough coins going to be in the rich list. The Dev's have not stopped staking minus one the entire time this has been a thing. With 125 coins I could see you hitting once a month assuming it doesn't shoot up in difficulty which it will based on the low difficulty to mine.

>assuming it doesn't shoot up in difficulty which it will based on the low difficulty to mine.

Actually, mining difficulty doesn't affect how fast SGL is released, thus it won't epic the staking difficulty. The amount of SGL released is fixed regardless of how many or how few miners there are. Come on cdawall, this is basic stuff. I expect you to understand these kinds of things.

cdawall

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Quote from: dkmontague on February 11, 2018, 03:45:21 PM

I see your sheet. How many coins do you have staked? I mined 125 coins to the main address, haven't split them up (per their instructions to have at least 100 in each address). Do you think adding addresses with coin control is what makes the difference here?

I have received 1 payout of 25 coins after the first few days (when the staking scandal became more public and im assuming they put a hold on staking temporarily) and then nothing since. There is really no wallet setup to fuck up here on the user end if youre just using the single address with no coin control, so im not sure what you're talking about. The wallet is open on a machine that I leave on 24/7 (no sleep settings, etc) with the wallet always open, showing connections and active staking. It's been like 2 weeks. I am at 2 inputs with 2069 days right now.

I would LOVE to be wrong about this and get staking like you are, but as of now it looks like its not user error and these guys just need to quit being greedy bastards

Minimum staking amount is 50 coins per input. You have next to no weight with 125 coins. I have enough coins going to be in the rich list. The Dev's have not stopped staking minus one the entire time this has been a thing. With 125 coins I could see you hitting once a month assuming it doesn't shoot up in difficulty which it will based on the low difficulty to mine.

lutuy

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is there a linux wallet daemon?

dkmontague

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Quote from: cdawall on February 10, 2018, 10:16:57 PM

Quote from: dkmontague on February 10, 2018, 09:54:24 PM

Ok so I mined some of this a few weeks ago and now have ~1957 coin days with no POS payout. The devs are the ones getting all the blocks, staking the entire premine of millions and millions of coins.

You guys really think this project will survive when they have made it effectively pointless to stake coins? Absolutely ridiculous.

If you want adopters, you need to make it worthwhile to participate. Fucking greed is all this is.

At this point, I dont even care about the coins and just want this project dead so the greedy devs arent making money off the community. Especially off people who are buying the coins they stake with their hard-earned BTC.

This project had potential but they have made it just another crypto joke on investors. Fuck these guys.

With roughly 2000 coins how do you have those coins split up? Did you leave everything on auto? Is the wallet open 24/7 on an internet connected machine?

This is just one of my wallets. It has been closed up multiple days in between these due to weather or the rig it runs being down for service of some sort (I use it for GPU BIOS mods and testing trouble cards before RMA)

http://img.techpowerup.org/180211/capture068.jpg

If you notice it has hit PoS multiple times (and this does not show orphan hits). That is with inputs as low as 50.xx coins.

This is my coin weight sheet. It is now above 2000 coins an amount for this wallet.

http://img.techpowerup.org/180211/capture069.jpg

If you don't have coin weights in the 2000+ range don't expect to hit anything. That goes for any PoS setup. There is absolutely no reason if your wallet is setup correctly and left running connected to the net 24/7 that it should not hit PoS with 2000 coins. That is user error.

http://img.techpowerup.org/180211/capture070.jpg

This kind of weight hits daily on average if difficulty for PoS stays under 30-40. We are over that so I expect every 3 days now.

I see your sheet. How many coins do you have staked? I mined 125 coins to the main address, haven't split them up (per their instructions to have at least 100 in each address). Do you think adding addresses with coin control is what makes the difference here?

I have received 1 payout of 25 coins after the first few days (when the staking scandal became more public and im assuming they put a hold on staking temporarily) and then nothing since. There is really no wallet setup to fuck up here on the user end if youre just using the single address with no coin control, so im not sure what you're talking about. The wallet is open on a machine that I leave on 24/7 (no sleep settings, etc) with the wallet always open, showing connections and active staking. It's been like 2 weeks. I am at 2 inputs with 2069 days right now.

I would LOVE to be wrong about this and get staking like you are, but as of now it looks like its not user error and these guys just need to quit being greedy bastards

xxmetalmartyrxx

jr. member

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Quote from: sommersut on February 11, 2018, 01:10:32 PM

No official statement concerning Devs staking most of coins?

Nope. They expect people to lurk through their Slack to get info, instead of just coming forward an announcing it.

xxmetalmartyrxx

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Quote from: cdawall on February 11, 2018, 02:09:12 AM

Quote from: xxmetalmartyrxx on February 11, 2018, 01:09:09 AM

I feel ya. If devs stopped staking, that would cut PoS difficulty by atleast 50%-60%, and you'd get your blocks. But sadly they seemed to have implemented PoS to pad their own pockets.

They could never sell what they have as of right now. The market wouldn't support it. They would have to heap effort into the coin to get it trading on multiple exchanges, and pumped in price before the market could handle selling 10000 SGL in a day let alone 10-100 times that. I don't really understand how you clowns think economics work, but supply and demand still works and until there is a demand they could stake 100% of all the SGL in existence and they wouldn't make a bloody dime.

That being said if people would stop second guessing every single step a dev takes and believe in the coin like they scream about on and on maybe that would allow them to possibly put some of the effort they were using to stop the fires you have started into actually developing the coin.

LOL so with your logic, a premine of any percent would be palatable for you? "Because they couldn't sell it all anyways", yeah, no shit sherlock. But big premines, and staking pre mines are RED FLAGS in projects. Devs make it seem like they have a reasonable premine (which they do) and then they go about quietly staking it which is shady af.
Listen to this blind shill "the fires you have started". Damn, all I'm doing is pointing out what the devs are doing because they aren't upfront about it. If they REALLY believed in SGL, 2million SGL would be more then enough to finance whatever they needed, because a decent project should at least hit a 50mil marketcap right? Which after year one, SGL would be worth approximately 4$, and their 2million SGL would equate 8milllion USD. Sure, they couldn't sell ALL of it, but holy shit how much do you need to pay for a shitty app developer? I sound like a broken record, but damn you guys don't get it. If 8 million dollars isn't enough, hell, if 1 million dollars isn't enough to fund this, then these devs really need to learn finance management.

sommersut

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No official statement concerning Devs staking most of coins?

nornbergkristi

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Quote from: Sigil-Developer on January 08, 2018, 12:28:06 PM

Okay, just lowered the fee from 10% to 3%

It is important that the team is on a compromise. It's always a pleasure to work with such people.

cdawall

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Quote from: xxmetalmartyrxx on February 11, 2018, 01:09:09 AM

I feel ya. If devs stopped staking, that would cut PoS difficulty by atleast 50%-60%, and you'd get your blocks. But sadly they seemed to have implemented PoS to pad their own pockets.

They could never sell what they have as of right now. The market wouldn't support it. They would have to heap effort into the coin to get it trading on multiple exchanges, and pumped in price before the market could handle selling 10000 SGL in a day let alone 10-100 times that. I don't really understand how you clowns think economics work, but supply and demand still works and until there is a demand they could stake 100% of all the SGL in existence and they wouldn't make a bloody dime.

That being said if people would stop second guessing every single step a dev takes and believe in the coin like they scream about on and on maybe that would allow them to possibly put some of the effort they were using to stop the fires you have started into actually developing the coin.

xxmetalmartyrxx

jr. member

Activity: 98

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Quote from: dkmontague on February 10, 2018, 09:54:24 PM

Ok so I mined some of this a few weeks ago and now have ~1957 coin days with no POS payout. The devs are the ones getting all the blocks, staking the entire premine of millions and millions of coins.

You guys really think this project will survive when they have made it effectively pointless to stake coins? Absolutely ridiculous.

If you want adopters, you need to make it worthwhile to participate. Fucking greed is all this is.

I feel ya. If devs stopped staking, that would cut PoS difficulty by atleast 50%-60%, and you'd get your blocks. But sadly they seemed to have implemented PoS to pad their own pockets.

cdawall

newbie

Activity: 19

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Quote from: dkmontague on February 10, 2018, 09:54:24 PM

Ok so I mined some of this a few weeks ago and now have ~1957 coin days with no POS payout. The devs are the ones getting all the blocks, staking the entire premine of millions and millions of coins.

You guys really think this project will survive when they have made it effectively pointless to stake coins? Absolutely ridiculous.

If you want adopters, you need to make it worthwhile to participate. Fucking greed is all this is.

At this point, I dont even care about the coins and just want this project dead so the greedy devs arent making money off the community. Especially off people who are buying the coins they stake with their hard-earned BTC.

This project had potential but they have made it just another crypto joke on investors. Fuck these guys.

With roughly 2000 coins how do you have those coins split up? Did you leave everything on auto? Is the wallet open 24/7 on an internet connected machine?

This is just one of my wallets. It has been closed up multiple days in between these due to weather or the rig it runs being down for service of some sort (I use it for GPU BIOS mods and testing trouble cards before RMA)

http://img.techpowerup.org/180211/capture068.jpg

If you notice it has hit PoS multiple times (and this does not show orphan hits). That is with inputs as low as 50.xx coins.

This is my coin weight sheet. It is now above 2000 coins an amount for this wallet.

http://img.techpowerup.org/180211/capture069.jpg

If you don't have coin weights in the 2000+ range don't expect to hit anything. That goes for any PoS setup. There is absolutely no reason if your wallet is setup correctly and left running connected to the net 24/7 that it should not hit PoS with 2000 coins. That is user error.

http://img.techpowerup.org/180211/capture070.jpg

This kind of weight hits daily on average if difficulty for PoS stays under 30-40. We are over that so I expect every 3 days now.

dkmontague

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Ok so I mined some of this a few weeks ago and now have ~1957 coin days with no POS payout. The devs are the ones getting all the blocks, staking the entire premine of millions and millions of coins.

You guys really think this project will survive when they have made it effectively pointless to stake coins? Absolutely ridiculous.

If you want adopters, you need to make it worthwhile to participate. Fucking greed is all this is.

At this point, I dont even care about the coins and just want this project dead so the greedy devs arent making money off the community. Especially off people who are buying the coins they stake with their hard-earned BTC.

This project had potential but they have made it just another crypto joke on investors. Fuck these guys.

HotSwapp

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fsrebel

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developers here?
Is the coin alive?
What about the price?
what is the future of this coin?

Ayers

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Quote from: cdawall on February 08, 2018, 10:25:38 PM

Quote from: xxmetalmartyrxx on February 08, 2018, 04:43:08 PM

Here to shine some light on devs staking the pre mine. https://www.reddit.com/r/sigilplatform/comments/7w6n4m/an_issue_with_sgl_not_spreading_fud_just_an/?ref=share&ref_source=link

Are you going to spam your personal opinion everywhere?

Staking their own coins to pay for anything and everything that has to do with the coins makes business sense. I am sorry it hurts your feelings and you think they will just use any money made to be "rich"

Here is my personal opinion, I don't care if they are staking. I would prefer if they staked ALL of their coins because they as the developers deserve to be paid for their work. If you don't like that they have staked it make your own coin up, use your own rules. I mean this whole "I know best" attitude is by far the most frustrating part of the web warriors stalking all the coins. Half the "shitcoin" callouts are about as fake news as it gets.

I agree with this.

cdawall

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Quote from: xxmetalmartyrxx on February 08, 2018, 04:43:08 PM

Here to shine some light on devs staking the pre mine. https://www.reddit.com/r/sigilplatform/comments/7w6n4m/an_issue_with_sgl_not_spreading_fud_just_an/?ref=share&ref_source=link

Are you going to spam your personal opinion everywhere?

Staking their own coins to pay for anything and everything that has to do with the coins makes business sense. I am sorry it hurts your feelings and you think they will just use any money made to be "rich"

Here is my personal opinion, I don't care if they are staking. I would prefer if they staked ALL of their coins because they as the developers deserve to be paid for their work. If you don't like that they have staked it make your own coin up, use your own rules. I mean this whole "I know best" attitude is by far the most frustrating part of the web warriors stalking all the coins. Half the "shitcoin" callouts are about as fake news as it gets.

xxmetalmartyrxx

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Here to shine some light on devs staking the pre mine. https://www.reddit.com/r/sigilplatform/comments/7w6n4m/an_issue_with_sgl_not_spreading_fud_just_an/?ref=share&ref_source=link

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