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sr. member
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Hey thanks for the mention.  I will still be making improvements as I find time, I just added some pagination in the address pages for transactions and mined blocks last night.

I will be adding some additional miner statistics and getting the API docs published once I have some time.

If anyone has any other suggestions about what they'd like to see, please let me know.

A richlist maybe?
newbie
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A new block explorer is available here, it's ran by Shift-pool.com owner. (Thank you!)

 http://www.shiftchain.net

https://i.imgur.com/KY7H6pt.png

Hey thanks for the mention.  I will still be making improvements as I find time, I just added some pagination in the address pages for transactions and mined blocks last night.

I will be adding some additional miner statistics and getting the API docs published once I have some time.

If anyone has any other suggestions about what they'd like to see, please let me know.
sr. member
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A new block explorer is available here, it's ran by Shift-pool.com owner. (Thank you!)

 http://www.shiftchain.net

hero member
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Why would anyone mine at a loss?
If you just hold and buy more it's not really a loss, it's just mining cheaply before the difficulty gets higher.

Sure you could mine another coin and buy SHIFT with this. But if you just keep mining SHIFT and buy SHIFT you'll support both the network and the market.
legendary
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Why would anyone mine at a loss?

Good heart? I don't know but the hash rate has remained consistent for the last few days at least.

I'll pitch in a few of my rigs if it dips below 1GH.
sr. member
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Why would anyone mine at a loss?
sr. member
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Block explorer is down. We're investigating, but that shouldn't be too long to fix. Smiley
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Long term SHIFT!!!! Will be huge Cool
sr. member
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The development team, you will work for 5+. Do you like statistics which is now observed after the change Huh

I'm not sure i understa d the question completely but we are content with the current status of the network. Block times are much better which means bloat is less of an issue but still fast enough for phantom integration.

Of course SHIFT is less profitable to mine now than it was before. But if you look at many coins they were never profitable to mine at their current price at that point and only later rewarded miners who kept their rigs running at a loss. I've seen posts where people complain they only get 5 bitcoin a day and have to shut down their gpus due to mining at a loss.

People always equate a pow network's inherent value with the electicity and hardware used to secure the blockchain which gives the minted tokens their value. I much more prefer to think of our (mining) community as our strongest asset. If you mine at almost no profitability or only breakeven that shows trust and that makes you valuable to us and us work that much harder for you!



All it is clear that at the moment, many coins are produced at a loss. I said that in this case, it was impossible to do this update because the network and community for such a small action in this situation, because there is still a staple in the project. Now the entire network and the coin holds only of mining that we see the statisticians at the time?
1) the fact that out of the glass on the market has gone from 12 Bitcoin purchases, was 20 was 8.
2) manners are gone, there were 8 Tx network fell by 1.5 Tx, the complexity of the 115 dropped to 66
3) raised doubts about the project.

project needed foreign investors, the company that will support and market as a team and you will drive to work. As the example of the expanse made by joining Microsoft.
You should not be afraid to attract new investors from outside, and it is necessary to speak at the forum, people need to know, and more people need to go to the project, not to sit a bunch of 20 people on a branch.
You remember the story expanse, what the price was for the coin and how everything changed after ??

At the expense of production, as previously said, I will disable the shift from his farm, because I was not profitable to produce, because the production costs cover only the costs of electricity, and so did many of because there are coins to show good results. But in my day is 1% of the total volume of coins that I hold, but these people think I can count on one hand all the other coins sold because miner class is just a breadwinner, rather than the investor and this must be understood.
newbie
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You guys realize the team has pushed 800,000 lines of code to the phantom github repo in the past month right? The Shift team is doing hell of a lot more work than other communities. They are doing original work implementing ZeroNet in their protocol and they have a straightfoward roadmap. This is not a sketchy alt coin that had to launch an ICO to pay for funding and still not get any work done. The Shift team is getting real work done and i am very excited for the future of this project and i hope the rest of you are too. It will be a long trip Wink
sr. member
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The plan is to follow the roadmap. Thats usually what people do with roadmaps.

Excuse my ignorance but where are you on the roadmap? Since the last update was not on the roadmap.

No ignorance on your side. When we set out we wanted to give a basic and easy to grasp overview over our development plans rather than too many detailed and technological explanations that turn people away before they fully understand the big picture.

As mentioned previously, we are working on providing a more detailed roadmap. We have made clear in the past that we monitor this thread closely and welcome each and every question, so in the meantime all you have to do is ask Smiley

Currently we are working on contract integration into Phantom, which means using SHIFT's contract programming language and ShiftHub's UI to allow for fast, simple and secure deployments, used for example in dns solvers for website domains (interpreting where to go when visiting yoursite.shift).

legendary
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The plan is to follow the roadmap. Thats usually what people do with roadmaps.

Excuse my ignorance but where are you on the roadmap? Since the last update was not on the roadmap.
sr. member
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How do you intend to keep me here? Reply here or send me a PM Smiley

Was it you who dumped all the coins dropping price from 7200 to 4500?

Running rigs at a loss? No offence but who are you fooling? There are better ways of doing it than running at a loss Wink

I'd like to understand what's your plan from now on... Hash rate dropped, miners run away, daily volume dropped, What do you intend to do to get investors back?

We did not dump anything. None of the team members getting paid from the funds are selling. We cannot control what voluntary contributors do with the bounties but those are smaller sums for now. The current movement is just natural price discovery happening between the different support and resistance levels. This is necessary for every market Smiley

Your other questions are so broad, I'm afraid there is no real way of answering them. I hope we made it clear since the relaunch what we are striving for and have shown users what they can expect. If you are interested in SHIFT just stick around and you'll see what we will be releasing.

sr. member
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Can you explain what SHIFT miners/investors offers now? That is all he asked in an accusatory way.

I see your team is submitting updates regularly but from the outside, a major fork 3.0 just to reduce supply still looks like a pump and dump technique as the previous post suspects. I didn't see the supply cut on the roadmap. Am I looking in the wrong place?

Your question is worded the wrong way. Our main concern is to offer something to the general public. And that is a completely decentralized, free, uncensored and immutable way of creating and sharing content, along with direct monetization and participation.

As stated previously, the fork happened to make an adjustment based on the experience up to this point. I'm not sure why you think we are able to announce unforeseen events in a very broad roadmap created months ago, but we have given advance notice about the fork and the new reward weeks before and asked the community about their opinion. The only response came from psyx80 at that time.

sr. member
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You skipped most of my questions unfortunately Sad does it mean you did dump the coins recently?

Any dates for the roadmap?

Also since you are so soo about the roadmap I would suggest changing the graphic above the roadmap. Block reward is 1 not 2 but I'm sure you are aware of that Smiley

Hi bbcoin,

thanks for pointing out the typo, we're currently working on a more indepth version of our ANN and we'll be sure to include up to date info.

There are no fixed dates for the roadmap as we all know that in most cases that never works out like expected. We will make sure to give updates on milestones and projections for upcoming releases as we see fit so the community has a good idea what we are working on and when we expect a release date, even if only a very vague one. It is a thin line between announcing something and creating false hype and we are trying to walk this line with utmost care.

Please keep in mind we are doing more than simply merging present developments into our codebase, we are working on the cutting edge of technology to build something unique so there is no manual or a good way to estimate exactly how long developments can take since we want to release software as stable and secure as possible Smiley

legendary
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The development team, you will work for 5+. Do you like statistics which is now observed after the change Huh

I'm not sure i understa d the question completely but we are content with the current status of the network. Block times are much better which means bloat is less of an issue but still fast enough for phantom integration.

Of course SHIFT is less profitable to mine now than it was before. But if you look at many coins they were never profitable to mine at their current price at that point and only later rewarded miners who kept their rigs running at a loss. I've seen posts where people complain they only get 5 bitcoin a day and have to shut down their gpus due to mining at a loss.

People always equate a pow network's inherent value with the electicity and hardware used to secure the blockchain which gives the minted tokens their value. I much more prefer to think of our (mining) community as our strongest asset. If you mine at almost no profitability or only breakeven that shows trust and that makes you valuable to us and us work that much harder for you!



How do you intend to keep me here? Reply here or send me a PM Smiley

Was it you who dumped all the coins dropping price from 7200 to 4500?


Running rigs at a loss? No offence but who are you fooling? There are better ways of doing it than running at a loss Wink

I'd like to understand what's your plan from now on... Hash rate dropped, miners run away, daily volume dropped, What do you intend to do to get investors back?

The plan is to follow the roadmap. Thats usually what people do with roadmaps. What you want to do on the other hand, is up to you.

A flippant answer does not help your credibility.

Can you explain what SHIFT miners/investors offers now? That is all he asked in an accusatory way.

I see your team is submitting updates regularly but from the outside, a major fork 3.0 just to reduce supply still looks like a pump and dump technique as the previous post suspects. I didn't see the supply cut on the roadmap. Am I looking in the wrong place?
newbie
Activity: 55
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The development team, you will work for 5+. Do you like statistics which is now observed after the change Huh

I'm not sure i understa d the question completely but we are content with the current status of the network. Block times are much better which means bloat is less of an issue but still fast enough for phantom integration.

Of course SHIFT is less profitable to mine now than it was before. But if you look at many coins they were never profitable to mine at their current price at that point and only later rewarded miners who kept their rigs running at a loss. I've seen posts where people complain they only get 5 bitcoin a day and have to shut down their gpus due to mining at a loss.

People always equate a pow network's inherent value with the electicity and hardware used to secure the blockchain which gives the minted tokens their value. I much more prefer to think of our (mining) community as our strongest asset. If you mine at almost no profitability or only breakeven that shows trust and that makes you valuable to us and us work that much harder for you!



How do you intend to keep me here? Reply here or send me a PM Smiley

Was it you who dumped all the coins dropping price from 7200 to 4500?


Running rigs at a loss? No offence but who are you fooling? There are better ways of doing it than running at a loss Wink

I'd like to understand what's your plan from now on... Hash rate dropped, miners run away, daily volume dropped, What do you intend to do to get investors back?

The plan is to follow the roadmap. Thats usually what people do with roadmaps. What you want to do on the other hand, is up to you.

You skipped most of my questions unfortunately Sad does it mean you did dump the coins recently?

Any dates for the roadmap?

Also since you are so soo about the roadmap I would suggest changing the graphic above the roadmap. Block reward is 1 not 2 but I'm sure you are aware of that Smiley
hero member
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The Shift Team
The development team, you will work for 5+. Do you like statistics which is now observed after the change Huh

I'm not sure i understa d the question completely but we are content with the current status of the network. Block times are much better which means bloat is less of an issue but still fast enough for phantom integration.

Of course SHIFT is less profitable to mine now than it was before. But if you look at many coins they were never profitable to mine at their current price at that point and only later rewarded miners who kept their rigs running at a loss. I've seen posts where people complain they only get 5 bitcoin a day and have to shut down their gpus due to mining at a loss.

People always equate a pow network's inherent value with the electicity and hardware used to secure the blockchain which gives the minted tokens their value. I much more prefer to think of our (mining) community as our strongest asset. If you mine at almost no profitability or only breakeven that shows trust and that makes you valuable to us and us work that much harder for you!



How do you intend to keep me here? Reply here or send me a PM Smiley

Was it you who dumped all the coins dropping price from 7200 to 4500?


Running rigs at a loss? No offence but who are you fooling? There are better ways of doing it than running at a loss Wink

I'd like to understand what's your plan from now on... Hash rate dropped, miners run away, daily volume dropped, What do you intend to do to get investors back?

The plan is to follow the roadmap. Thats usually what people do with roadmaps. What you want to do on the other hand, is up to you.
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
The development team, you will work for 5+. Do you like statistics which is now observed after the change Huh

I'm not sure i understa d the question completely but we are content with the current status of the network. Block times are much better which means bloat is less of an issue but still fast enough for phantom integration.

Of course SHIFT is less profitable to mine now than it was before. But if you look at many coins they were never profitable to mine at their current price at that point and only later rewarded miners who kept their rigs running at a loss. I've seen posts where people complain they only get 5 bitcoin a day and have to shut down their gpus due to mining at a loss.

People always equate a pow network's inherent value with the electicity and hardware used to secure the blockchain which gives the minted tokens their value. I much more prefer to think of our (mining) community as our strongest asset. If you mine at almost no profitability or only breakeven that shows trust and that makes you valuable to us and us work that much harder for you!



How do you intend to keep me here? Reply here or send me a PM Smiley

Was it you who dumped all the coins dropping price from 7200 to 4500?


Running rigs at a loss? No offence but who are you fooling? There are better ways of doing it than running at a loss Wink

I'd like to understand what's your plan from now on... Hash rate dropped, miners run away, daily volume dropped, What do you intend to do to get investors back?
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
The development team, you will work for 5+. Do you like statistics which is now observed after the change Huh

I'm not sure i understa d the question completely but we are content with the current status of the network. Block times are much better which means bloat is less of an issue but still fast enough for phantom integration.

Of course SHIFT is less profitable to mine now than it was before. But if you look at many coins they were never profitable to mine at their current price at that point and only later rewarded miners who kept their rigs running at a loss. I've seen posts where people complain they only get 5 bitcoin a day and have to shut down their gpus due to mining at a loss.

People always equate a pow network's inherent value with the electicity and hardware used to secure the blockchain which gives the minted tokens their value. I much more prefer to think of our (mining) community as our strongest asset. If you mine at almost no profitability or only breakeven that shows trust and that makes you valuable to us and us work that much harder for you!

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