Topic: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) - page 255. (Read 466822 times)

Any news about POSv transition?

Thank you and Joe for coming up with the idea! It's brilliant. 

Epiphany, as always, your dedication and honest reflection are great.  Thank you.

That's a driver issue with your mining software. What version of what mining software are you using? Also what hardware are you running?

Are there any working pools other than http://solarcoin.miningpoolhub.com ?

My asics don't seem to want to stay connected to this pool.  I have tried all 3 of their servers (europe, north america, asia) and my asics will not keep hashing on their servers for some reason.  After a couple minutes I quit getting any response from their server.

The solarcoin conversion has another element to it as well with the solar generation reserves/wallets, as I believe I read that they are not to be staking; meaning when they are brought online (from cold storage or whatever the future provides for securing them) to buffer the online wallets that may be manual or automatically sending out solarcoin rewards to solar providers, they are not to stake during that process.  Not sure of the method, and have not spent any time looking at the current CCN PoSV source, but I'm sure they'll be a few places in the code to delve.  As well, that may add to the complexity of testing, as it should be something that is tested (on the testnet)?

Okay cool.

Well, just so you know, I'm now working on the repository with Josh and will keep you guys updated

As for funds to be used for development, that's exactly what the Genesis Pool is intended for (among other things) as I believe Nick was referring to in his most recent post.

EDIT: The issue we faced in the early months and into summer was that people wanted payment in BTC, not SLR, so we had to finance things privately and not out of the Genesis pool. There is also the 5% coins in circulation restriction that has to be considered. Assuming development work is something that fits with the philosophy, paying for that out of the Genesis pool would be a valid option IMHO. It's just that whoever does the work must be willing to accept SLR as payment and that's something we can't decide, only the people doing the work can decide how they want to be paid.

I deeply respect the work you guys are doing and I am confident in the relationship. My moment of doubt had everything to do with me in the end, as these things generally do. It's so easy to try and deflect when negative emotions pop up when it is merely a reflection of a belief system we have that may need some tweeking.

Thanks Epiphany for your thoughtful post

The CCN team is very aware of the anxiety related to the Solarcoin PoSV wallets.  It does take man hours to make it happen and SubCreative has definitely been working on chipping away at it in these extremely busy times.  It's a larger undertaking than people might think, because it requires a lot of due diligence to make sure everything is correct in the code .  It's not as easy as copy/paste for this transition - otherwise many other coins would have attempted it by now.  I am standing by ready to diffcheck the code and set my Linux box up for testing whenever I get the word from Sub.

In case anyone is concerned or curious, the projects that we have just introduced to our community (TradeManager, fObfuscate) are not SubCreative's projects and they are not impeding progress on the Solarcoin transition.

I can also try to bring in some more developers for testing and helping if you guys are interested, that's why I inquired about if you had any SLR you set aside for development.

I'm actually not anxious now. That was part of the epiphany I had, pardon the pun.

The exchanges are risky. I always found it interesting how third party exchanges managed to insert themselves so deeply into a technology designed to eliminate the middle man and be decentralized. LOL

Epiphany,

Thanks for taking the time to research things, on behalf of all of us. If people thought your decision making, or the Foundation's, was inaccurate or misguided, they are free to voice their opinions.  I have yet to see anyone criticize the decisions made.  I'm not, that's for sure.  And, don't lose sleep over it, especially over the technology side of things. The crypto world has major advancements every few months, which means in 3 or 4 years, the entire technology could be flipped to something much improved?  Who knows, the decisions made today, could be totally replaced in the future, and your worrying could be wasted anxiety. lol

I think the CCN folks are pretty straight-up. As you say, we could be wrong…but I doubt it.

Exchanges are different. As I mentioned in the SLR forum previously, I wouldn't keep my coins or $ in the exchanges - get in and get out! They can be hacked…even if you're a Co. filled with nice people.

Solarcoin - onward and upward!   

LOL I'm not lost, just off finding myself. Now I'm going to share something with all of you and be as truthful as possible, you can choose whether to like it or not.

Back in December I felt myself getting frustrated because the new wallet still wasn't here. Even though PoW vs. PoS isn't all that relevant to the mission of helping to increase solar adoption, it's still an important milestone. Not only for blockchain security reasons but, more importantly IMHO, for eliminating our dependence on traditional mining which isn't actually helping Mother Earth breathe any better given all the power it sucks up. I want PoS so that we can be greener! My frustrations at the delay were causing me some angst. I had some e-mails with Josh, Patrick, Nick, Joe about the delay. Josh really would like to get the messaging function to work since it is used to store information on the grants. In the big scheme, that information is very important for transparency issues until the granting is fully automated, so I understood that it's better to suffer the wait and get it right than to obsess about it day in and day out. Yet I was obsessing and feeling negative. So I decided to go inward to see if there were some other fears at play causing my negative vibes that I could conquer. So I began the trek!

I recognized that I had done all I could to get us to this spot and it was just time to chill, yet I wasn't chill. Hmmm... So I reviewed the "data". Josh and his team at CCN are a really decent group and I trust them. That's a big leap of faith in this new world of ours! I did my own version of due diligence on them before they were even approached as a possible dev team for us and it was my recommendation that led the team to choose them. As I pondered that, I realized that my frustrations were in fact based on the worry/fear that, "What if I was wrong?". Maybe they were scam artists and I was duped? Then I asked myself, "What's the worst that can happen if that's true?". When the answer finally came, it smacked me and my ego HARD up side the head...

I actually believed that, if that happened, then the failure would lay entirely on my lap! If that happened, I would go down in history as the one who destroyed SolarCoin!!! OMFG!!!    It was causing me panic attacks, not kidding. It was completely irrational but that was the underlying fear causing my negative vibes. That told me there was some part of my equation that wasn't adding up, there was a paradox. If I had done my due diligence, knew the risks and acted on that then I shouldn't be anxious. Do I trust myself? Yes. Did I trust my own judgment and intuition? Yes. Am I willing to accept if we need to find another dev? Yes. Would that suck? Yes. Would a delay destroy the coin? No. Would it affect price? Probably, but a MWh of solar electricity is worth a helluva lot more to me than a fraction of a useless fiat penny... so I don't really care much about the price. So why was I so focused on it? I'll tell you why, my damn ego was the one focused on it!!! Once I recognized that, along with the above irrational fear, I also recognized I had a choice to just let it go. Trust myself that I did that best that I could up until this point and just let it go. The CCN team will deliver and if they don't, we'll figure it out together. It's not the end of the world for SolarCoin, just another road bump along the way.

And if it is the end of the world for SolarCoin and the world wants to blame it on me? I'll take that one for the team. If that's the worst that can happen, I've decided I'm OK with that. I sat my ego down and had a serious chat and told him who was boss. (Yes, it's a him, how Freudian.) This coin isn't about me, it's about all of us and the world we choose to live in. If it ever becomes about me (or any one person), then it's already failed. We have a duty to ourselves to make our own judgments, do our own research, trust our own guts. I have done that here, from the beginning. I'm all in because it's a risk I'm willing to take. Each and every person should do that and not just blindly trust what others say (including me!!!). But recognize that this crypto world IS a high risk one. Sometimes a leap of faith is necessary, especially in people. If you aren't comfortable with that kind of environment, perhaps ask yourself some questions about why not? What's the worst that can happen?  


EDIT: Forgot to mention how good that CoinDesk article is! While that is talking more about exchanges/companies rather than coins themselves, it's still very good advice. Thank you for sharing your concern. I fully agree that it is important to be as transparent and open as possible.

so far 300k SLR has been spoken for and needs to be paid for development outstanding.  The rest has all been out of pocket paid for in $'s by founders.

hi, happy new year all , beginning with this bitstamp lost , once again ....
I was reading this http://www.coindesk.com/avoid-bitcoin-scams-2015/ in particular #2
then i checked on http://www.whois.com/whois/solarcoin.org
Registrant Name:Registration Private

I am sure there is a way to change this. For sure , on 2015, people will double check on their side with what they have in hands.
The previous post is going in the same direction, people need security.
Thanks

BTW, we lost epiphany at the epiphany ?

Happy New Year and Happy 1st Anniversary, SOLARCOIN!

Only current coin listed in THE WALL OF HONOR: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10055393

Congratulations!

What's up SolarCoin guys.  Happy New Year

I am looking forward to seeing SolarCoin become a really strong cryptocurrency this year.  Thanks for the patience with us.  I have a question for you guys.  Has your community used some of the pre-mined funds for development?  I haven't followed the thread too closely so I'm not sure if you guys have talked about this before. 

The Bitcoins and Gravy guy hit @CCNProject up on Twitter after your interview, but I think everyone's pretty busy right now. 

So I hope you guys had a Merry Christmas.  I've got some fun ideas in the back of my mind for SolarCoin, but I'll have to share them another time.  Cheers

This is my favourite coins, it is the best idea and most viable project among alts.

This is kinda funny reading this now.

I think they might have had a chance, if they put a big sellwall at $20 and then sat on the cash to establish a floor at say $5. But that wouldn't buy any yachts or private islands.

Now let's go back to solarcoin. Personally, I think what's going to drive lots of distributed solar installations over the next 15 years is electrical demand for proof-of-work mining to secure distributed equity & commodities commodities trading (such as on counterparty), with one of those commodities being solar energy, which ties in solarcoin somehow. I also expect there will be a market for CPU time on the distributed mining infrastructure for algorithmic trading, so that you can write code that forecasts solar irradiance and make money by buying & selling solar energy futures on the real-time power markets.

2015 Year of the SolarCoin elephant.
http://solarcoin.org/over-2m-in-claimable-solarcoin-available-globally/