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Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 09:30:38 AM

Quote from: intristin on December 03, 2015, 08:49:06 AM

Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 08:43:07 AM

So you programmed it to be fully automatic, but you just decided to tell everyone that it has to be manually approved. I'm sure that's the only thing that doesn't make sense in your system, nothing else could go wrong.

And we can either believe what you're saying now, or we can believe what the withdrawal system tells us.

I actually don't care if you're sitting there clicking "approved" on each withdrawal and then pretending it's automatic. It makes no difference to me.

intristin is the one who decided to make an issue of it and offer it as an example of why DGCS is superior to BARR.

If it works, it works. But then again, there is no proof that DGCS has ever burned a single coin. So we're just supposed to take his word that it works.

except for the burn market records that is : https://btcpool.exchange/Market?pair=SPACE/DGCS

That isn't a link to a Spacecoin block explorer showing the coins being sent to a burn address. It says that the Spacecoins now belong to BTCPoolExchange. (and it's less than 0.01% of the Spacecoin supply. So if you do 100 times more than that, you'll only be 50 times behind what BARR has already done this month)

So again, there is no proof that DGCS has ever burned a single coin.

But I'm sure there's a manual process that you're planning to use to destroy the coins, since you don't have automated burn transactions.

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what happens when our first burn ends and none of these doom and gloom predictions you have made come true?

I'm not making predictions, I'm describing the facts which have already happened. You premined 200 Million coins and said they would only be used for burned altcoins, and you've already done other things with those coins. No predictions necessary, you have already failed to run an honest project.

You have proven that your word can't be trusted - and the entire DGCS project depends entirely on trusting you, because it is not decentralized or automated. You send millions of premined DGCS from your personal wallet, using manual transactions.

DGCS = Your personal trustworthiness in running the coin as you promised = Nothing

Why are you so angry? Talking in such a childish, obscene manner only makes you out to look like a crazed lunatic.

You could have said all of that without being so offensive - it would have worked out better for you

One thing about the burn - I did get nervous after seeing the 'waiting for admin approval' on the withdraw page. But it did process quickly so I can't complain!

Chill out guys

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Let see what happens BARR_Official. But I can promise you that in the long run it will make you look like the idiot that you are.

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Quote from: intristin on December 03, 2015, 08:49:06 AM

Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 08:43:07 AM

So you programmed it to be fully automatic, but you just decided to tell everyone that it has to be manually approved. I'm sure that's the only thing that doesn't make sense in your system, nothing else could go wrong.

And we can either believe what you're saying now, or we can believe what the withdrawal system tells us.

I actually don't care if you're sitting there clicking "approved" on each withdrawal and then pretending it's automatic. It makes no difference to me.

intristin is the one who decided to make an issue of it and offer it as an example of why DGCS is superior to BARR.

If it works, it works. But then again, there is no proof that DGCS has ever burned a single coin. So we're just supposed to take his word that it works.

except for the burn market records that is : https://btcpool.exchange/Market?pair=SPACE/DGCS

That isn't a link to a Spacecoin block explorer showing the coins being sent to a burn address. It says that the Spacecoins now belong to BTCPoolExchange. (and it's less than 0.01% of the Spacecoin supply. So if you do 100 times more than that, you'll only be 50 times behind what BARR has already done this month)

So again, there is no proof that DGCS has ever burned a single coin.

But I'm sure there's a manual process that you're planning to use to destroy the coins, since you don't have automated burn transactions.

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what happens when our first burn ends and none of these doom and gloom predictions you have made come true?

I'm not making predictions, I'm describing the facts which have already happened. You premined 200 Million coins and said they would only be used for burned altcoins, and you've already done other things with those coins. No predictions necessary, you have already failed to run an honest project.

You have proven that your word can't be trusted - and the entire DGCS project depends entirely on trusting you, because it is not decentralized or automated. You send millions of premined DGCS from your personal wallet, using manual transactions.

DGCS = Your personal trustworthiness in running the coin as you promised = Nothing

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Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 08:43:07 AM

So you programmed it to be fully automatic, but you just decided to tell everyone that it has to be manually approved. I'm sure that's the only thing that doesn't make sense in your system, nothing else could go wrong.

And we can either believe what you're saying now, or we can believe what the withdrawal system tells us.

I actually don't care if you're sitting there clicking "approved" on each withdrawal and then pretending it's automatic. It makes no difference to me.

intristin is the one who decided to make an issue of it and offer it as an example of why DGCS is superior to BARR.

If it works, it works. But then again, there is no proof that DGCS has ever burned a single coin. So we're just supposed to take his word that it works.

except for the burn market records that is : https://btcpool.exchange/Market?pair=SPACE/DGCS

As inconvenient that might be to your bullshit FUD. In any case, I have been suggesting that everyone hold on to their SPACE and stake it to dump on the last day. But I guess that information don't fit in with the story your trying to tell. what happens when our first burn ends and none of these doom and gloom predictions you have made come true? Then what? My guess is you will just make up more bullshit.

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Quote from: intristin on December 03, 2015, 08:39:36 AM

If it says that you should change it to something like "currently being processed". Because admin approval would make people nervous. Either way they would have to have seen that it was processed quickly which would make their claims bullshit.

Kind of like how you can't think of anything else to brag about other than "automated transactions", but then reality made your claims bullshit?

I'm sorry you're having a public disagreement with your burn host partner, but they seem to be doing a good job. Nothing they did makes anyone nervous, it's just you.

But when someone sends Spacecoin to BTCPoolExchange, are those coins automatically sent to a verifiable burn address? Or is it not really automated, and your claims are bullshit?

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So you programmed it to be fully automatic, but you just decided to tell everyone that it has to be manually approved. I'm sure that's the only thing that doesn't make sense in your system, nothing else could go wrong.

And we can either believe what you're saying now, or we can believe what the withdrawal system tells us.

I actually don't care if you're sitting there clicking "approved" on each withdrawal and then pretending it's automatic. It makes no difference to me.

intristin is the one who decided to make an issue of it and offer it as an example of why DGCS is superior to BARR.

If it works, it works. But then again, there is no proof that DGCS has ever burned a single coin. So we're just supposed to take his word that it works.

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Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 08:22:47 AM

It's their exchange, and you chose it as your official burn partner. Don't blame me for the fact that it tells every user that their withdrawals must be manually processed, and then you come here bragging about how your system is all automated and never manual.

I'm just pointing out the facts and discrepancies. It's no surprise that you can't get together with them and tell the same story, since you can't even keep your own stories straight by yourself.

Are you referring to this

MyriadCoin 159.66 12/3/2015 1:26:53 PM PENDING Waiting for admin approval

if so this is the auto system at work

we can change this to say anything we want...

the withdraws are 100 % automatic we dont need to touch them at all...

If it says that you should change it to something like "currently being processed". Because admin approval would make people nervous. Either way they would have to have seen that it was processed quickly which would make their claims bullshit.

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Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 08:22:47 AM

It's their exchange, and you chose it as your official burn partner. Don't blame me for the fact that it tells every user that their withdrawals must be manually processed, and then you come here bragging about how your system is all automated and never manual.

I'm just pointing out the facts and discrepancies. It's no surprise that you can't get together with them and tell the same story, since you can't even keep your own stories straight by yourself.

Are you referring to this

MyriadCoin 159.66 12/3/2015 1:26:53 PM PENDING Waiting for admin approval

if so this is the auto system at work

we can change this to say anything we want...

the withdraws are 100 % automatic we dont need to touch them at all...

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DUDE, take statements out of context much? You are a sad little human being.

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Quote from: intristin on December 03, 2015, 08:00:31 AM

Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 07:57:19 AM

I wasn't complaining, as anyone can see if they can read.

I was just pointing out another inaccuracy in intristin's many stories.

His burn process is fully centralized and requires trusting both him and the exchange.

He asks you to trust that he won't send the premined coins without following the rules, even though he's already broken that trust.

Then he asks you to trust the exchange with your altcoins, because you send them your coins and trust that they will burn those coins.

Then he asks you to trust the exchange again to distribute the DGCS according to the rules, even though they have 5 million coins and transfer them off-blockchain in a way that would easily allow dishonest transfers to remain hidden.

After that, DGCS cannot be traded without again trusting a centralized exchange to hold the coins, not to delist the coins, not to get hacked, and not to go out of business.

And he thinks that system is some advantage over BARR, which is traded on the decentralized NXT Asset Exchange, fully trustless on the blockchain, where your coins stay in your address even while they're in sell orders.

Yet it's wasn't another inaccuracy was it? It was you FUDing and grasping at straws. I have allready responded to your other complaints in other threads but you keep rehashing them. Dude, your starting to look desperate. But good luck with that. You claimed that you yourself had a withdrawal held up with a "admin approval" notice. Both admins came here put an end to your bullshit. Now your claiming you never complained. Honestly dude, give up on this FUDing, your making yourself look like an idiot.

It's their exchange, and you chose it as your official burn partner. Don't blame me for the fact that it tells every user that their withdrawals must be manually processed, and then you come here bragging about how your system is all automated and never manual.

I'm just pointing out the facts and discrepancies. It's no surprise that you can't get together with them and tell the same story, since you can't even keep your own stories straight by yourself.

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Yes, Digital Credits has changed it's plans on many occasions.

Yes, you have repeatedly broken your promises about the most important aspects of your coin, such as how you will spend the 99% premine.

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You have not one shred of evidence that we have tried to scam or rip off anyone.

I have your own words and actions as evidence. You said that any funds moving from the premine address, without being exchanged for burned coins, would be stolen funds. You said anyone could check the block explorer at any time, to make sure the funds weren't stolen. Then you stole them. That's the word you used.

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And one final note before I put your stupid ass on my ignore list, Yes, Digital Credits has changed it's plans on many occasions. But we have never strayed form the original vision. That is what active coins under development do. They review what they are doing and make changes when they need to. That is something you can't do with a NXT asset because you have 0 control over the code. Digital Credits will continue to adjust as needed, and that is a good thing, not a bad one. You have not one shred of evidence that we have tried to scam or rip off anyone. All you do is speculate and lie. Good luck with that man. I am not your enmey, but you seem hell bend on making me one.

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Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 07:57:19 AM

I wasn't complaining, as anyone can see if they can read.

I was just pointing out another inaccuracy in intristin's many stories.

His burn process is fully centralized and requires trusting both him and the exchange.

He asks you to trust that he won't send the premined coins without following the rules, even though he's already broken that trust.

Then he asks you to trust the exchange with your altcoins, because you send them your coins and trust that they will burn those coins.

Then he asks you to trust the exchange again to distribute the DGCS according to the rules, even though they have 5 million coins and transfer them off-blockchain in a way that would easily allow dishonest transfers to remain hidden.

After that, DGCS cannot be traded without again trusting a centralized exchange to hold the coins, not to delist the coins, not to get hacked, and not to go out of business.

And he thinks that system is some advantage over BARR, which is traded on the decentralized NXT Asset Exchange, fully trustless on the blockchain, where your coins stay in your address even while they're in sell orders.

Yet it's wasn't another inaccuracy was it? It was you FUDing and grasping at straws. I have allready responded to your other complaints in other threads but you keep rehashing them. Dude, your starting to look desperate. But good luck with that. You claimed that you yourself had a withdrawal held up with a "admin approval" notice. Both admins came here put an end to your bullshit. Now your claiming you never complained. Honestly dude, give up on this FUDing, your making yourself look like an idiot.

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I wasn't complaining, as anyone can see if they can read.

I was just pointing out another inaccuracy in intristin's many stories.

His burn process is fully centralized and requires trusting both him and the exchange.

He asks you to trust that he won't send the premined coins without following the rules, even though he's already broken that trust.

Then he asks you to trust the exchange with your altcoins, because you send them your coins and trust that they will burn those coins.

Then he asks you to trust the exchange again to distribute the DGCS according to the rules, even though they have 5 million coins and transfer them off-blockchain in a way that would easily allow dishonest transfers to remain hidden.

After that, DGCS cannot be traded without again trusting a centralized exchange to hold the coins, not to delist the coins, not to get hacked, and not to go out of business.

And he thinks that system is some advantage over BARR, which is traded on the decentralized NXT Asset Exchange, fully trustless on the blockchain, where your coins stay in your address even while they're in sell orders.

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Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 07:11:49 AM

Quote from: intristin on December 03, 2015, 07:07:48 AM

Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 07:03:18 AM

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I'm using an automated burn process and he is using a manual one.

You require users to send their coins to BTCPoolExchange, and all withdrawals from BTCPoolExchange have to be manually approved by the admin.

No they don't. There is no record of the withdraw in question. It's FUD, most likely created by one of your alt accounts. Anyone can deposit coins on BTCPOOL and then withdraw them to see that what you are saying is complete bullshit lies!

Well I don't know about that other guy who reported the same facts, but I made my own withdrawal from BTCPoolExchange and it had to wait for manual admin approval.

Here is the record of that withdrawal: 6853eaebc5379685af912490ec5a544bb9e1188f6c04a9c832f7f5b591ff5429

So there are at least 2 users who had the same experience. How many users does BTCPoolExchange have? 0 people have ever traded DGCS there, even though it's the official host for your burns.

Ok mate time to set the record straight , 1 withdrawals go to a waiting area will they are processing this takes all of a few seconds it does say waiting for approval , but that is a automated process , its not instant as the system has to do some checks and balances , and not 1 person has said anything about any stuck withdrawals here or in support or in our chat and as for that transaction record check it on the block chain it was done on the 17th 11th 2015 and this was the time the withdrawal was submitted 11/17/2015 12:19:46 PM on our exchange and this is the time it hit the blockchain after the auto checks and balances 2015-11-17 12:20:31, took all of 45 seconds , mate go fud somewhere else check it on the blockchain yourself before fudding , if 45 seconds is to long for you mate blame satoshi!!

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Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 07:11:49 AM

Quote from: intristin on December 03, 2015, 07:07:48 AM

Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 07:03:18 AM

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I'm using an automated burn process and he is using a manual one.

You require users to send their coins to BTCPoolExchange, and all withdrawals from BTCPoolExchange have to be manually approved by the admin.

No they don't. There is no record of the withdraw in question. It's FUD, most likely created by one of your alt accounts. Anyone can deposit coins on BTCPOOL and then withdraw them to see that what you are saying is complete bullshit lies!

Well I don't know about that other guy who reported the same facts, but I made my own withdrawal from BTCPoolExchange and it had to wait for manual admin approval.

Here is the record of that withdrawal: 6853eaebc5379685af912490ec5a544bb9e1188f6c04a9c832f7f5b591ff5429

So there are at least 2 users who had the same experience. How many users does BTCPoolExchange have? 0 people have ever traded DGCS there, even though it's the official host for your burns.

Hi
can you please tell me what issue you have with the exchange

There are no outstanding withdraws on the exchange

so please tell me where the problem is ?

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Quote from: intristin on December 03, 2015, 07:07:48 AM

Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 07:03:18 AM

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I'm using an automated burn process and he is using a manual one.

You require users to send their coins to BTCPoolExchange, and all withdrawals from BTCPoolExchange have to be manually approved by the admin.

No they don't. There is no record of the withdraw in question. It's FUD, most likely created by one of your alt accounts. Anyone can deposit coins on BTCPOOL and then withdraw them to see that what you are saying is complete bullshit lies!

Well I don't know about that other guy who reported the same facts, but I made my own withdrawal from BTCPoolExchange and it had to wait for manual admin approval.

Here is the record of that withdrawal: 6853eaebc5379685af912490ec5a544bb9e1188f6c04a9c832f7f5b591ff5429

So there are at least 2 users who had the same experience. How many users does BTCPoolExchange have? 0 people have ever traded DGCS there, even though it's the official host for your burns.

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Quote from: intristin on December 03, 2015, 07:07:48 AM

Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 07:03:18 AM

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I'm using an automated burn process and he is using a manual one.

You require users to send their coins to BTCPoolExchange, and all withdrawals from BTCPoolExchange have to be manually approved by the admin.

No they don't. There is no record of the withdraw in question. It's FUD, most likely created by one of your alt accounts. Anyone can deposit coins on BTCPOOL and then withdraw them to see that what you are saying is complete bullshit lies!

and anyway a exchange that asks for manual approval is totally bs and i agree again with intristin.... and anyway let's end this fight ok?

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Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 07:03:18 AM

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I'm using an automated burn process and he is using a manual one.

You require users to send their coins to BTCPoolExchange, and all withdrawals from BTCPoolExchange have to be manually approved by the admin.

No they don't. There is no record of the withdraw in question. It's FUD, most likely created by one of your alt accounts. Anyone can deposit coins on BTCPOOL and then withdraw them to see that what you are saying is complete bullshit lies!

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Quote from: intristin on December 03, 2015, 06:51:41 AM

He is attacking my coin and will continue to attack any new Proof of burn coin that comes out.

That's another lie from you, since CeriumCombine just announced that they're exchanging for burned altcoins and BARR accepted their offer to work together.

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At the end of the day all his FUD is speculation and completely unproven.

Just the facts, ma'am. You're on record saying all the premined funds will be transparent on the block explorer, and that you won't be in control of those funds, but you've already sent 6 million with no way to track who they're given to.

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I'm using an automated burn process and he is using a manual one.

You require users to send their coins to BTCPoolExchange, and all withdrawals from BTCPoolExchange have to be manually approved by the admin.

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Quote from: dukester99 on December 03, 2015, 06:53:24 AM

Have you considered burning ECASH?

Quote from: intristin on December 03, 2015, 05:12:11 AM

Quote from: BARR_Official on December 03, 2015, 05:05:10 AM

Is there a block explorer for Spacecoin, so we can see the current supply, and see if any coins have been burned?

Block Explorer is here, hosted by us. We are also hosting a pool, Thanks Tekyboy, and 4 nodes to ensure the block chain keeps moving without issue during the burn.

http://spacecoin.dcredits.com/

Post your suggestion in this thread and we will look into it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/digital-credits-proof-of-burn-discussion-thread-burns-canceled-do-to-attacks-1254272

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