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Topic: [ANN][SPATA]★Spartacus★[X15]★POW/POS★3.5 days POW★ON BITTREX - page 5. (Read 38092 times)

sr. member
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We have verified the premine exists and a portion of it was dumped on the exchange.  I'd like to remind everyone, Bittrex is here to facilitate the trading of one coin for another between parties.  We do NOT police the coins that are listed and trading is your own investment.  We as a community need to work together to identify these types of malicious actors sooner.  I apologize for the FUD, but we will not be issuing refunds.

As of now, we have cancelled all orders on the market.  In the interest of free market, we will re-open the market and leave it to the community to decide the value and fate of the coin.  The wallet will remain open for anyone that wishes to withdrawal their coin.

Thanks,
richie@bittrex

Ok before you re-open the market what does this mean? Do you guys have control of the extra coins or not. If your going to let free market decide, how many coins remain in circulation on bittrex?
full member
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I don't blame you Richie keep fucking them every chance you get.  Lets see how long you last.
sr. member
Activity: 264
Merit: 250
I love Bittrex with all my heart i really do, ive never really traded much on any other exchange. And was proud of to see them overtake MP as the number one crypto exchange. But i would hate to see them fall from grace because of this stupid coin. Whether people think they played a role in it or not, some will hold it against them regardless. I think they have to step up here and solidify their legacy. This is a defining moment for them here, i really want to see how they handle this.
full member
Activity: 168
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I agree no one should expect Bittrex to pay them back.  People should do their own research.  Oh wait.  No I don't agree.  What the fuck do you think we are paying Bittrex for?  We pay them on every transaction.  We pay them to help safeguard our btc from theft.  Like I said you all ain't getting a refund that's life.  All you can do is start using exchanges that don't let this happen.
hero member
Activity: 937
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We have verified the premine exists and a portion of it was dumped on the exchange.  I'd like to remind everyone, Bittrex is here to facilitate the trading of one coin for another between parties.  We do NOT police the coins that are listed and trading is your own investment.  We as a community need to work together to identify these types of malicious actors sooner.  I apologize for the FUD, but we will not be issuing refunds.

As of now, we have cancelled all orders on the market.  In the interest of free market, we will re-open the market and leave it to the community to decide the value and fate of the coin.  The wallet will remain open for anyone that wishes to withdrawal their coin.

Thanks,
richie@bittrex
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1010
Well honestly, Bittrex should seriously consider making right to their customers for this - at the very least for the people who purchased through Bittrex - and STILL had their coins in the exchange.

Refund them out at the value at the time at which the scam was exposed.

There should have only been 1 million coins. The TOTAL supply was 1.5 million after POW - but its only 3/5 of the way complete.

So the fact that they allowed a coin that had a 1.5 million market cap - at which time should have only had 1 million in circulation - to have MORE than 1.5 million in their exchange - I'm sorry I love Bittrex but that is a big oversight on their part.

They are a financial exchange - pure and simple. They should have safe guards in place to prevent these things from happening.

I am also a bit surprised that they don't have some sort of review process when they list a currency. At the very least they take information - how many coins, POW length, Time, Block Size, Total Circulation - and then they do a quick scan of the source file to make sure 1+1 = 2.

If Bittrex is to continue to be a leader in this ever growing, highly competative CryptoWorld, they need to ask themselves what kind of company they plan to be.

If they allow these things to happen someone or group will open an exchange that offers these safe guards, and no doubt they will lose the market share they have worked so hard to obtain.

I think they should ask themselves that question right now.

Strato

Bittrex didn't allow shit to happen. They aren't obligated to review every single line of code (which if you know anything about computer science is literally what needs to be done to prevent these scenarios). I can't gauge how big of an oversight this was (it looks fairly obvious though) so I am not in the position to blame them but the exchanges aren't responsible IMO. In that case, go ahead and blame bitcointalk, the pools, and every other service for enabling you to access the coin.

I am not "blaming" Bittrex.  I am simply saying that we pay a fee to bittrex when we trade - which we should. But part of their job, for that fee, should be at the very least offering some degree of protection - such as source code review. Or perhaps knowing that somethings not right when a coin that only has 1 million in total circulation at the moment - has more than 1.5 million coins in the exchange. Like if WALLET > X NUMBER = BIG PROBLEM.

If they don't do this, another exchange will open that will. Am I alone here in saying that we, as a community, want exchanges that provide oversight, and don't list any and all coins - some of which are likely total scams - literally devices created to steal money right out of the hands of the exchanges customers?

Not assigning blame at all. This is an evolving world (cryptos). We are all learning - even the exchanges. It will continue to change. Bittrex has the chance here to step up and tell everyone loud and clear:

We will not allow, nor tollerate these types of events to occur.  We should have never listed this coin. We are doing right by our customers.  We are implementing new security and review measures for all currencies.  We will be reviewing all currencies to ensure this does not happen again. We apologize and hope you will continue to trade with us because we value you - our customers.

Again, I love Bittex, and I do most of my trading there. This is very unfortunate that this happened, for us and them.

But I think what I wrote in bold above is what everyone wants and needs to hear  - whether or not they were invested in SPATA or not.

If not, I think Bittrex will lose an enormous amount of trust by it's users. Which would be unfortunate.  

Strato
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Are you guys seriously blaming an exchange because you got scammed?

I agree they should do some checking and perhaps stop listing these crapcoins the moment they are announced but the bottom line is it's everone's fault this shit happens,if people weren't so greedy and eager to jump on every shitcoin announced here without due diligence in the hope for a pump there would be no reason for these so called "devs" to release them.

Supply and demand at work here
member
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Well honestly, Bittrex should seriously consider making right to their customers for this - at the very least for the people who purchased through Bittrex - and STILL had their coins in the exchange.

Refund them out at the value at the time at which the scam was exposed.

There should have only been 1 million coins. The TOTAL supply was 1.5 million after POW - but its only 3/5 of the way complete.

So the fact that they allowed a coin that had a 1.5 million market cap - at which time should have only had 1 million in circulation - to have MORE than 1.5 million in their exchange - I'm sorry I love Bittrex but that is a big oversight on their part.

They are a financial exchange - pure and simple. They should have safe guards in place to prevent these things from happening.

I am also a bit surprised that they don't have some sort of review process when they list a currency. At the very least they take information - how many coins, POW length, Time, Block Size, Total Circulation - and then they do a quick scan of the source file to make sure 1+1 = 2.

If Bittrex is to continue to be a leader in this ever growing, highly competative CryptoWorld, they need to ask themselves what kind of company they plan to be.

If they allow these things to happen someone or group will open an exchange that offers these safe guards, and no doubt they will lose the market share they have worked so hard to obtain.

I think they should ask themselves that question right now.

Strato

Bittrex didn't allow shit to happen. They aren't obligated to review every single line of code (which if you know anything about computer science is literally what needs to be done to prevent these scenarios). I can't gauge how big of an oversight this was (it looks fairly obvious though) so I am not in the position to blame them but the exchanges aren't responsible IMO. In that case, go ahead and blame bitcointalk, the pools, and every other service for enabling you to access the coin.

Totally not the same thing, do you think a bank would allow more Dollars in USD to circulate than the US Treasury actually has accounted for? Think about that for a second.

Edit: and thats disregarding credit by the way

eh, i understand your point but i think its more of the investor's responsibility to research their coins than it is the exchange. the OTC markets don't get blamed for listing pump-n-dump scams and neither should bittrex. if anything, this incident is reflective of the community's knee-jerk eagerness to put their money in anything. hopefully some will smarten up and be more apprehensive about their investments.
full member
Activity: 126
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As a community we should be stopping these financial rapists from pulling this crap in the first place.
newbie
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Well honestly, Bittrex should seriously consider making right to their customers for this - at the very least for the people who purchased through Bittrex - and STILL had their coins in the exchange.

Refund them out at the value at the time at which the scam was exposed.

There should have only been 1 million coins. The TOTAL supply was 1.5 million after POW - but its only 3/5 of the way complete.

So the fact that they allowed a coin that had a 1.5 million market cap - at which time should have only had 1 million in circulation - to have MORE than 1.5 million in their exchange - I'm sorry I love Bittrex but that is a big oversight on their part.

They are a financial exchange - pure and simple. They should have safe guards in place to prevent these things from happening.

I am also a bit surprised that they don't have some sort of review process when they list a currency. At the very least they take information - how many coins, POW length, Time, Block Size, Total Circulation - and then they do a quick scan of the source file to make sure 1+1 = 2.

If Bittrex is to continue to be a leader in this ever growing, highly competative CryptoWorld, they need to ask themselves what kind of company they plan to be.

If they allow these things to happen someone or group will open an exchange that offers these safe guards, and no doubt they will lose the market share they have worked so hard to obtain.

I think they should ask themselves that question right now.

Strato

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+1
hero member
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There is NO Freedom without Privacy
Well honestly, Bittrex should seriously consider making right to their customers for this - at the very least for the people who purchased through Bittrex - and STILL had their coins in the exchange.

Refund them out at the value at the time at which the scam was exposed.

There should have only been 1 million coins. The TOTAL supply was 1.5 million after POW - but its only 3/5 of the way complete.

So the fact that they allowed a coin that had a 1.5 million market cap - at which time should have only had 1 million in circulation - to have MORE than 1.5 million in their exchange - I'm sorry I love Bittrex but that is a big oversight on their part.

They are a financial exchange - pure and simple. They should have safe guards in place to prevent these things from happening.

I am also a bit surprised that they don't have some sort of review process when they list a currency. At the very least they take information - how many coins, POW length, Time, Block Size, Total Circulation - and then they do a quick scan of the source file to make sure 1+1 = 2.

If Bittrex is to continue to be a leader in this ever growing, highly competative CryptoWorld, they need to ask themselves what kind of company they plan to be.

If they allow these things to happen someone or group will open an exchange that offers these safe guards, and no doubt they will lose the market share they have worked so hard to obtain.

I think they should ask themselves that question right now.

Strato
Bittrex didn't scam you or tell you to buy the coin. What do you want them to do to the sellers, make them buy it back  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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They were likely in on the scam with the dev.  How else could they be so incompetent. Why else wouldn't they cover the lose.
Because they cant afford refunding everyone? and i dont see how its their fault

I'd have to agree here. I highly doubt intentional foul play took place.

But I do think perhaps that Bittrex may need to stop and consider the impact these events have- not only on the individual investors who lose their money when this happens, but how this in every way shape and form harms and shames the crypto community.

Scams are not what 99% of us here are for.

Bittrex is an exchange. A hub. A central point for the crypto community. It is where we come together to buy and sell the currencies we believe in (or dont).  

They charge a fee for this service, as they should.

But for that fee I truly believe part of their job is to protect us from just this type of event. They shouldn't allow coins like this to be listed. Source Files should be reviewed. There should be safe guards.

If they don't do this, someone else will, and the community will move there.

Pure and simple.

Strato

Polo made that decision to check code , and i agree with you all the exchanges should do that.
sr. member
Activity: 264
Merit: 250
Well honestly, Bittrex should seriously consider making right to their customers for this - at the very least for the people who purchased through Bittrex - and STILL had their coins in the exchange.

Refund them out at the value at the time at which the scam was exposed.

There should have only been 1 million coins. The TOTAL supply was 1.5 million after POW - but its only 3/5 of the way complete.

So the fact that they allowed a coin that had a 1.5 million market cap - at which time should have only had 1 million in circulation - to have MORE than 1.5 million in their exchange - I'm sorry I love Bittrex but that is a big oversight on their part.

They are a financial exchange - pure and simple. They should have safe guards in place to prevent these things from happening.

I am also a bit surprised that they don't have some sort of review process when they list a currency. At the very least they take information - how many coins, POW length, Time, Block Size, Total Circulation - and then they do a quick scan of the source file to make sure 1+1 = 2.

If Bittrex is to continue to be a leader in this ever growing, highly competative CryptoWorld, they need to ask themselves what kind of company they plan to be.

If they allow these things to happen someone or group will open an exchange that offers these safe guards, and no doubt they will lose the market share they have worked so hard to obtain.

I think they should ask themselves that question right now.

Strato

Bittrex didn't allow shit to happen. They aren't obligated to review every single line of code (which if you know anything about computer science is literally what needs to be done to prevent these scenarios). I can't gauge how big of an oversight this was (it looks fairly obvious though) so I am not in the position to blame them but the exchanges aren't responsible IMO. In that case, go ahead and blame bitcointalk, the pools, and every other service for enabling you to access the coin.

Totally not the same thing, do you think a bank would allow more Dollars in USD to circulate than the US Treasury actually has accounted for? Think about that for a second.

Edit: and thats disregarding credit by the way
full member
Activity: 168
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The volume of the cost was pretty low.  Bittrex could refund the btc from the time of the dump.  They won't because they don't have to.  They will lose some business over it that is for sure.  In the grander scale of things it is a small matter to them.  
legendary
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DASH is the future of crypto payments!
Thnx God I didnt rented rigs this time only mined with my priv rig.
Ehhhh
Thats why I love DRKcoin with real identites of dev team. Nothing to hide...ok meaby tx with darksend+
This time no pump guys no btc to buy more drks ....life.....
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Well honestly, Bittrex should seriously consider making right to their customers for this - at the very least for the people who purchased through Bittrex - and STILL had their coins in the exchange.

Refund them out at the value at the time at which the scam was exposed.

There should have only been 1 million coins. The TOTAL supply was 1.5 million after POW - but its only 3/5 of the way complete.

So the fact that they allowed a coin that had a 1.5 million market cap - at which time should have only had 1 million in circulation - to have MORE than 1.5 million in their exchange - I'm sorry I love Bittrex but that is a big oversight on their part.

They are a financial exchange - pure and simple. They should have safe guards in place to prevent these things from happening.

I am also a bit surprised that they don't have some sort of review process when they list a currency. At the very least they take information - how many coins, POW length, Time, Block Size, Total Circulation - and then they do a quick scan of the source file to make sure 1+1 = 2.

If Bittrex is to continue to be a leader in this ever growing, highly competative CryptoWorld, they need to ask themselves what kind of company they plan to be.

If they allow these things to happen someone or group will open an exchange that offers these safe guards, and no doubt they will lose the market share they have worked so hard to obtain.

I think they should ask themselves that question right now.

Strato

+1
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1010
They were likely in on the scam with the dev.  How else could they be so incompetent. Why else wouldn't they cover the lose.
Because they cant afford refunding everyone? and i dont see how its their fault

I'd have to agree here. I highly doubt intentional foul play took place.

But I do think perhaps that Bittrex may need to stop and consider the impact these events have- not only on the individual investors who lose their money when this happens, but how this in every way shape and form harms and shames the crypto community.

Scams are not what 99% of us here are for.

Bittrex is an exchange. A hub. A central point for the crypto community. It is where we come together to buy and sell the currencies we believe in (or dont).  

They charge a fee for this service, as they should.

But for that fee I truly believe part of their job is to protect us from just this type of event. They shouldn't allow coins like this to be listed. Source Files should be reviewed. There should be safe guards.

If they don't do this, someone else will, and the community will move there.

Pure and simple.

Strato
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
same shit happened on ninja, where a lot of us lost 100%(everything ) (now the decisions that Poloniex made to check the code looks great, at least you will be safe from scams like this one if code is checked)
sr. member
Activity: 264
Merit: 250
They were likely in on the scam with the dev.  Why else wouldn't they cover the lose.

I doubt Bittrex would throw away all of the volume they have just to get in on one measly pump and dump coin. That would potentially ruin their reputation. It was just simply a HUGE oversight on everyones part.

Everytime people enter submit on an order at Bittrex (or any exchange) it reminds you that the sale is non-refundable and subject to the site's terms.

Investors need to check the source code.

This was not a sophisticated scam at all.

This has happened before and will continue to happen as long as people jump in so fast to every coin.

As an exchange how do you not realize a coin surpasses its CAP? Do they not have checks for these kinds of things. They only noticed when someone pointed it out to them. I know its not totally their fault, but they played a bit of a role in the loss as well.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1010
Well honestly, Bittrex should seriously consider making right to their customers for this - at the very least for the people who purchased through Bittrex - and STILL had their coins in the exchange.

Refund them out at the value at the time at which the scam was exposed.

There should have only been 1 million coins. The TOTAL supply was 1.5 million after POW - but its only 3/5 of the way complete.

So the fact that they allowed a coin that had a 1.5 million market cap - at which time should have only had 1 million in circulation - to have MORE than 1.5 million in their exchange - I'm sorry I love Bittrex but that is a big oversight on their part.

They are a financial exchange - pure and simple. They should have safe guards in place to prevent these things from happening.

I am also a bit surprised that they don't have some sort of review process when they list a currency. At the very least they take information - how many coins, POW length, Time, Block Size, Total Circulation - and then they do a quick scan of the source file to make sure 1+1 = 2.

If Bittrex is to continue to be a leader in this ever growing, highly competative CryptoWorld, they need to ask themselves what kind of company they plan to be.

If they allow these things to happen someone or group will open an exchange that offers these safe guards, and no doubt they will lose the market share they have worked so hard to obtain.

I think they should ask themselves that question right now.

Strato
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