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Topic: [ANN][TZC] TrezarCoin Super-Secure-PoW/PoS - page 9. (Read 156533 times)

sr. member
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Merit: 252
Crazy cheap TZC  Grin

How mych coins,i need for stacking.
For about 1 coin/day?

to get 1 coin a day you'd need to stake once every hundred days not sure how many coins you'd need for that but my 200k(inputs at 5k-20k) stake once every day or two
newbie
Activity: 61
Merit: 0
FOR CPU MINNING IS IT READY OR AFTER PRE SELLS ,?
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
How mych coins,i need for stacking.
For about 1 coin/day?
newbie
Activity: 43
Merit: 0
Hi, dev's! I expect your idea runs happily!
Logical design, wondrous website!
jr. member
Activity: 154
Merit: 1
I never doubted TrezarCoin, the excellent work of the developers.
Mining is really very profitable.
newbie
Activity: 64
Merit: 0
waldo was here, 13 of july 2018
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
List of nodes. v1.1.0.0
addnode=1.20.160.129
addnode=103.232.209.140
addnode=104.14.148.127
addnode=104.5.69.242
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addnode=110.22.158.11
addnode=121.124.96.185
addnode=124.121.254.233
addnode=14.46.163.89
addnode=141.105.139.218
addnode=159.89.29.113
addnode=165.73.111.92
addnode=173.22.61.152
addnode=173.249.34.54
addnode=176.184.122.144
addnode=176.184.96.99
addnode=176.72.140.250
addnode=178.169.87.16
addnode=185.229.190.43
addnode=187.87.103.78
addnode=188.167.251.218
addnode=189.157.79.104
addnode=189.6.16.3
addnode=194.87.145.250
addnode=195.201.61.95
addnode=202.57.55.218
addnode=207.154.199.0
addnode=208.54.40.139
addnode=212.116.106.98
addnode=217.245.203.240
addnode=24.8.107.243
addnode=27.122.114.229
addnode=37.145.113.122
addnode=43.228.142.242
addnode=46.174.232.143
addnode=47.185.244.79
addnode=47.21.40.218
addnode=47.31.104.254
addnode=47.31.82.58
addnode=49.197.10.140
addnode=52.221.41.123
addnode=54.92.43.109
addnode=62.220.52.54
addnode=67.168.127.173
addnode=67.184.83.76
addnode=72.234.195.114
addnode=76.181.182.41
addnode=76.28.6.240
addnode=78.22.237.106
addnode=79.116.187.63
addnode=80.193.196.33
addnode=82.45.113.136
addnode=83.216.177.26
addnode=83.253.8.255
addnode=85.164.241.169
addnode=85.214.216.220
addnode=85.222.184.68
addnode=86.57.164.146
addnode=86.63.110.105
addnode=86.90.5.82
addnode=86.91.173.25
addnode=89.252.203.250
addnode=90.109.69.192
addnode=94.209.249.101
addnode=94.254.251.41
legendary
Activity: 1884
Merit: 1005
I downloaded it with GitHub.

I unpacked the barely-completed wallet file into the folder.
It started, then I closed it and it immediately disappeared from the folder where it was unpacked!

Sound like an Antivirus problem to me. Your Windows Defender or Antivirus is blocking it. - Please whitelist it.
sr. member
Activity: 1750
Merit: 305
I downloaded it with GitHub.

I unpacked the barely-completed wallet file into the folder.
It started, then I closed it and it immediately disappeared from the folder where it was unpacked!
member
Activity: 179
Merit: 27
Hello!
My wallet is not synchronized, I added nods.

And also I can not unpack the archive.
https://cdn1.savepice.ru/uploads/2018/7/8/ae962477a7b0d2035ba2c4e42d81b8b5-full.png

And after closing the wallet, the purse file itself disappears!



please make sure you download the wallet from an official source, 

either https://trezarcoin.com  or https://github.com/TrezarCoin/TrezarCoin/releases


- can you explain what you mean by "the purse file itself disappears!" ??
sr. member
Activity: 1750
Merit: 305
Hello!
My wallet is not synchronized, I added nods.

And also I can not unpack the archive.
https://cdn1.savepice.ru/uploads/2018/7/8/ae962477a7b0d2035ba2c4e42d81b8b5-full.png

And after closing the wallet, the purse file itself disappears!
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 252
Anyone here using raspberry pi to stake? Do you have anything else running on the pi? Hoe much of the system resources are used up?

i used to run wallets on the pi but i found 2-3 was all it was capable of due to ram constraints I moved on to an intel NUC as they're quite cheap & quite low power its currently on a power monitor with 2 laptops mining ytn apparently drawing 71w for all 3, which likely means my monitors dodgy
jr. member
Activity: 96
Merit: 1
Anyone here using raspberry pi to stake? Do you have anything else running on the pi? Hoe much of the system resources are used up?
legendary
Activity: 1884
Merit: 1005
Some of the more widely discussed topics on inputs and groupings are that you would like to get your inputs grouped into several smaller ones rather than very few bigger ones. The thinking is the amount of time it takes to get an input to max age of 16 days would suck if you only had 1 or 2 inputs with large sums in each input.
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This makes a lot of sense in the context of what AltScope previously wrote, but what is an ideal number of coins per input to earn a stake every 14-16 days? My seat-o-the-pants estimate is around 10000, understanding the PoS difficulty is not constant, etc.



Community found out that the sweetspot seems to be at 8k - 10k per input. To stake daily you need about 150k-200k coins. So with 10k input you are good set to reach a stake within 16 days. Also luck is involved obviously. - Iam working on a wallet-update right now, which will give an "estimated time to stake".
jr. member
Activity: 213
Merit: 3
Some of the more widely discussed topics on inputs and groupings are that you would like to get your inputs grouped into several smaller ones rather than very few bigger ones. The thinking is the amount of time it takes to get an input to max age of 16 days would suck if you only had 1 or 2 inputs with large sums in each input.
...

This makes a lot of sense in the context of what AltScope previously wrote, but what is an ideal number of coins per input to earn a stake every 14-16 days? My seat-o-the-pants estimate is around 10000, understanding the PoS difficulty is not constant, etc.



A stake every 15 days = 2 stakes a month = 24 stakes a year = 2400 coins.. Say an avg of 17% returns a year would require about 14,000 coins staked for a full year. Because 14,000 x 17% (I took the avg of 15-20% PoS return) = 2380 coins.
full member
Activity: 420
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Some of the more widely discussed topics on inputs and groupings are that you would like to get your inputs grouped into several smaller ones rather than very few bigger ones. The thinking is the amount of time it takes to get an input to max age of 16 days would suck if you only had 1 or 2 inputs with large sums in each input.
...

This makes a lot of sense in the context of what AltScope previously wrote, but what is an ideal number of coins per input to earn a stake every 14-16 days? My seat-o-the-pants estimate is around 10000, understanding the PoS difficulty is not constant, etc.

jr. member
Activity: 213
Merit: 3
Some of the more widely discussed topics on inputs and groupings are that you would like to get your inputs grouped into several smaller ones rather than very few bigger ones. The thinking is the amount of time it takes to get an input to max age of 16 days would suck if you only had 1 or 2 inputs with large sums in each input. Sure, you’d hit that input sooner, but it would take 16 days again to ramp back up along with the 24 hrs reset time. Whereas 10 smaller inputs of reasonable size (maybe 4-5k is decent enough) would have more inputs working at max age looking for blocks and would then stand more of a chance to hit. And once one hit, you wouldn’t need to have most of your coins tied up in a 24hr reset coin weight period and requiring another 16days to max age again. So there is slightly more value in splitting the inputs up into several moderate sized inputs rather than 2-3 large inputs. As always, if you're at max age right now you might want to wait until you hit a stake before you do any coin moving so as not to reset your coin age.

I think for newer people that do not group their inputs and send 100-200 coins from the pool to their wallet and do nothing else are really losing out on staking. I think if you’re a miner that has the pool send money to their wallet, you would benefit greatly by coming to the tzc Discord or Slack channel and speaking to Stat or any of the members to optimize your input grouping. He helped me and I’ve been staking well ever since.
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 182
thats weird try restarting the wallet  Huh

the main concern I'd have with 2000 is the max age which I was wrong about its 16 days not 14 days, what that means is after 16 days they stop gaining age/weight. If you dont stake after 16 days you need to add more coins to get more weight and increase your chances of staking.

Restarting the wallet reset the minimum age to 0 which is what I expected to happen, so that appears to have done the trick.

Also, interesting point about needing sufficient coins to stake every 16 days, minimum, because coin-weight stops increasing after that time. I never really considered that before, but it makes perfect sense now that you pointed it out!  Tongue

So, a merit for your help! It ain't much, but it's something.

member
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Merit: 12
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What's the best way to condense your existing coin balance down to one input?
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use coincontrol select all inputs and send them to an address you control (even the adress their in is fine) if you want to join your inputs into 1.
personally I wouldnt bother if you hit a block the wallet should rejoin your inputs, max stake age is 14 days if memory serves so tbh the chances of getting a reward with 2k are slim regardless of how you've got them split on average my 185k coins only stake once per day so I'd say you need more coins rather than one input

Hmm, this made absolutely no sense when I first read it, but fortunately I am very curious and prone to getting into trouble because of it so I went poking around the wallet and found an option called "enable coin control beta." After enabling it I then pressed the "coin control" button and selected both addresses that received payments from mining as inputs (tree mode) then went back to the send screen and sent the entire balance, minus a 0.26 TZC Tx fee, to the first mining address. The wallet asked me to confirm paying the "higher than normal" fee and the only indications something happened were that the fee showed up in recent payments, my balance was marked as unconfirmed and my wallet stopped staking.

After the balance was confirmed I re-enabled staking then checked the Penrose triangle and it still says I have 151 inputs weighing 29832 coin days?! So it looks like nothing happened, except when I go back to coin control it now says all of my coins are in one address, not two, and that there is only one input. So something happened - besides paying a 0.26 TZC fee - but I'm not sure whether there was any point to it or not?

Oh, and I know that my 2k coins won't receive a stake very often, but based on comments in this thread I've inferred it should happen every 90 days or so; I'm cool with that.


just wait 24 hours after the first confirmation of this tx and staking will be working with new input, just restart your wallet after 24 hours. I can see this happening in TZC and ORB wallet too.
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 252
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Hmm, this made absolutely no sense when I first read it, but fortunately I am very curious and prone to getting into trouble because of it so I went poking around the wallet and found an option called "enable coin control beta." After enabling it I then pressed the "coin control" button and selected both addresses that received payments from mining as inputs (tree mode) then went back to the send screen and sent the entire balance, minus a 0.26 TZC Tx fee, to the first mining address. The wallet asked me to confirm paying the "higher than normal" fee and the only indications something happened were that the fee showed up in recent payments, my balance was marked as unconfirmed and my wallet stopped staking.

After the balance was confirmed I re-enabled staking then checked the Penrose triangle and it still says I have 151 inputs weighing 29832 coin days?! So it looks like nothing happened, except when I go back to coin control it now says all of my coins are in one address, not two, and that there is only one input. So something happened - besides paying a 0.26 TZC fee - but I'm not sure whether there was any point to it or not?

Oh, and I know that my 2k coins won't receive a stake very often, but based on comments in this thread I've inferred it should happen every 90 days or so; I'm cool with that.


thats weird try restarting the wallet  Huh

the main concern I'd have with 2000 is the max age which I was wrong about its 16 days not 14 days, what that means is after 16 days they stop gaining age/weight. If you dont stake after 16 days you need to add more coins to get more weight and increase your chances of staking.
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