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August 15, 2014, 01:29:49 AM
Hi! I've been away for a while and I see that the community did GREAT work organising behind this coin. This is disappointing, that despite all the community's work, the price contunued to fall. I might be one of the people who were most affected by all Voot-related things and it might be a lesson for me (and all of us!) to diversify our portfolio, because crypto world is really unpredictable. You might profit on bad coins and lose on good ones. As we all see, situation is harsh now. For the last few days I've continued to manage Twitter and I will gladly continue this as long as it is needed. So I will probably be the person to close the door here if the coin fails or I will be the one who opens the door to the whole new chapter in Voot's story if it manages to succeed. I was reading everything that was posted in this topic and I will continue to, however at this situation, when the community collectively took over the coin and has ideas on how to manage it, I will not interfere with the decisions and just be voice of the community or will aim to share my opinion in some cases. Let's continue the good work and see where it takes us!
August 15, 2014, 12:55:43 AM
I hope my syscoin can cover my voot loss, SYS to da moon 
August 15, 2014, 12:43:31 AM
Turk traderlar icin bisiler solemek istiyorum bende yaklasik 6000 lira kadar parami kaybettim suanda ama beklemekten baska caremiz varmi elimde 300000 coin var ve bunlari 100 sattan satmak istemiyorum suan birileri 28 milyon tane coini elinde tutuyor siz ce ne icin evet en ufak bir pumplama bu coin yine 2500 satlara cikicaktir buna eminim vwe uzun suredir bu coindeyim 60 sattan 2000 sata geldigi gunleri cok iyi hatirliyorum ve suna inanin mscollec cok kuvvetli bir el bir coin icin zaten kendi coini olan sync ta bunu goruyoruz herkese iyi tradeler.icinizi ferah tutun altcoin piyasadinda kaybetmeden baslamak olmuyor ve ileriyi okuma cook onemli ve ben nu yetiye libertycoin ve voot sayesinde kavustum
Yes! To the moon!
August 15, 2014, 12:39:26 AM
Turk traderlar icin bisiler solemek istiyorum bende yaklasik 6000 lira kadar parami kaybettim suanda ama beklemekten baska caremiz varmi elimde 300000 coin var ve bunlari 100 sattan satmak istemiyorum suan birileri 28 milyon tane coini elinde tutuyor siz ce ne icin evet en ufak bir pumplama bu coin yine 2500 satlara cikicaktir buna eminim vwe uzun suredir bu coindeyim 60 sattan 2000 sata geldigi gunleri cok iyi hatirliyorum ve suna inanin mscollec cok kuvvetli bir el bir coin icin zaten kendi coini olan sync ta bunu goruyoruz herkese iyi tradeler.icinizi ferah tutun altcoin piyasadinda kaybetmeden baslamak olmuyor ve ileriyi okuma cook onemli ve ben nu yetiye libertycoin ve voot sayesinde kavustum
August 15, 2014, 12:18:23 AM
I put all my BTC into the shit coin, now it lost 80%, what can I do? 
August 14, 2014, 09:31:40 PM
@Gullu,
I can understand your frustration but please note that this is a temporary foundation that is trying to stabilize the situation ASAP. No one person is calling the shots and every decision will be bought forward to voot community first, before being implemented. We are all here try to help the coin
Once we get a decision on the Anon exchange and the future involvement of the smoke team from MsCollec, we will dissolve the temporary foundation and elect a new one based on community votes.
What's really stalling us at the moment is the reply from Mscollec regarding 'agreement' with Smoke team.
Once we get a clear history on the 'agreement' from Mscollec, we can move forward.
Thanks
Dp
i tell you what, i will put my fight for principals on a pause for now and i am doing it just because of you.I can understand your frustration but please note that this is a temporary foundation that is trying to stabilize the situation ASAP. No one person is calling the shots and every decision will be bought forward to voot community first, before being implemented. We are all here try to help the coin
Once we get a decision on the Anon exchange and the future involvement of the smoke team from MsCollec, we will dissolve the temporary foundation and elect a new one based on community votes.
What's really stalling us at the moment is the reply from Mscollec regarding 'agreement' with Smoke team.
Once we get a clear history on the 'agreement' from Mscollec, we can move forward.
Thanks
Dp
i like you over the others. they simply willing refuse to see the problem i have been pointing out over and again.
as for the anonex, MsCollec said "The lead dev for smoke is someone that I trust, and I will sort out the issues regarding the exchange source."
this might take some time.
my gut feeling is that MsCollec would come out as a winner.
August 14, 2014, 08:19:02 PM
@Sluppy,
Answer to all this lies with Mscollec and we need him to reply here ASAP. Some of us have been pm'ing him for a while now.
Answer to all this lies with Mscollec and we need him to reply here ASAP. Some of us have been pm'ing him for a while now.
August 14, 2014, 08:10:47 PM
How much was payed to the Smoke team ? (id like to know)
was it all payed in advance to nameless people ? (you trusted on the blue eyes of their avatar that seems risky)
Are they Offering to return the payment since they wont/cant deliver ? (would really suck but better then nothing)
Some clear answers would be nice , How much "extra" money do they want and why do they need / think their entitled to it?
What garantees would we get that they will stick to that deal ?
was it all payed in advance to nameless people ? (you trusted on the blue eyes of their avatar that seems risky)
Are they Offering to return the payment since they wont/cant deliver ? (would really suck but better then nothing)
Some clear answers would be nice , How much "extra" money do they want and why do they need / think their entitled to it?
What garantees would we get that they will stick to that deal ?
August 14, 2014, 08:03:41 PM
@Gullu,
I can understand your frustration but please note that this is a temporary foundation that is trying to stabilize the situation ASAP. No one person is calling the shots and every decision will be bought forward to voot community first, before being implemented. We are all here try to help the coin
Once we get a decision on the Anon exchange and the future involvement of the smoke team from MsCollec, we will dissolve the temporary foundation and elect a new one based on community votes.
What's really stalling us at the moment is the reply from Mscollec regarding 'agreement' with Smoke team.
Once we get a clear history on the 'agreement' from Mscollec, we can move forward.
Thanks
Dp
I can understand your frustration but please note that this is a temporary foundation that is trying to stabilize the situation ASAP. No one person is calling the shots and every decision will be bought forward to voot community first, before being implemented. We are all here try to help the coin
Once we get a decision on the Anon exchange and the future involvement of the smoke team from MsCollec, we will dissolve the temporary foundation and elect a new one based on community votes.
What's really stalling us at the moment is the reply from Mscollec regarding 'agreement' with Smoke team.
Once we get a clear history on the 'agreement' from Mscollec, we can move forward.
Thanks
Dp
August 14, 2014, 07:40:36 PM
August 14, 2014, 07:37:36 PM
what i have been saying is no fud.
if you have no problem with the manners of vt creation then fine. but, i do have concerns and i don't like the tactics used in the creation.
i am worried about my investment just like you are.
but there is a difference. i have not invested more than i can afford to lose.
having said that, i do want voot to get stable again.
but i don't see that happening because of few self-righteous people deciding to form a group/foundation without the input of the whole community.
you can leave if that is what you want.
but, don't blame me for what voot is today.
if you have no problem with the manners of vt creation then fine. but, i do have concerns and i don't like the tactics used in the creation.
i am worried about my investment just like you are.
but there is a difference. i have not invested more than i can afford to lose.
having said that, i do want voot to get stable again.
but i don't see that happening because of few self-righteous people deciding to form a group/foundation without the input of the whole community.
you can leave if that is what you want.
but, don't blame me for what voot is today.
I don't care how much money i invested, i just can't hold a bag of Xcoins without following his thread everyday... What I can see with voot is a sleepy community (don't want voot foundation) vs an active Voot Foundation
These guys are the only ones trying to make this coin better right now...
Look at page 1 and last page, what's new? Anon Exchange BETA, a f*cking useless exchange that nobody will use... not even the final release, oh forgot to told you, the anon exchange beta is even down, and nobody but SmokeTeam got the code.
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THE NUKES HAVE BEEN FIRED. ALL TRADING SYSTEMS HALTED. ///.///0004
http://7mzwlsz44m2ljj23.onion/So nothing, 118 pages of NOTHING and you don't want a Foundation to help this coin?
I understand you might be disappointed but the situation is critic, in 1-2 weeks this coin is dead and worth 1-10 sat if nothing changes, just join the IRC and talk with them
I really don't understand why you don't want it, it can't be worse......
why is it so hard for people to understand?
edit:
let me try and help your head just a little and i hope it works.
if given the opportunity to vote for the foundation members, i would most likely vote each and every current member in.
but as it stand right now, i just don't accept it.
August 14, 2014, 07:36:55 PM
Thanks to everyone who is active in the IRC. I am not able to hang around IRC for long. Given all the crap that's been happening around Voot, I am glad that there are lot of people voluntaring to help and coming with new ideas for the pipeline.
+1
August 14, 2014, 07:26:19 PM
what i have been saying is no fud.
if you have no problem with the manners of vt creation then fine. but, i do have concerns and i don't like the tactics used in the creation.
i am worried about my investment just like you are.
but there is a difference. i have not invested more than i can afford to lose.
having said that, i do want voot to get stable again.
but i don't see that happening because of few self-righteous people deciding to form a group/foundation without the input of the whole community.
you can leave if that is what you want.
but, don't blame me for what voot is today.
if you have no problem with the manners of vt creation then fine. but, i do have concerns and i don't like the tactics used in the creation.
i am worried about my investment just like you are.
but there is a difference. i have not invested more than i can afford to lose.
having said that, i do want voot to get stable again.
but i don't see that happening because of few self-righteous people deciding to form a group/foundation without the input of the whole community.
you can leave if that is what you want.
but, don't blame me for what voot is today.
So basically what you're saying is, that everyone who is trying to help out in the Voot Foundation shouldn't be doing this, and should let Voot die off? (I say die off because in my opinion theres slim to no chance that SMOKE will deliver anything)
that's your interpretation and it's way off.
you must have tried very hard to twist my words in order to come to that conclusion.
honestly, that is what i expected of you since you are part of the foundation.
August 14, 2014, 07:14:23 PM
Thanks to everyone who is active in the IRC. I am not able to hang around IRC for long. Given all the crap that's been happening around Voot, I am glad that there are lot of people voluntaring to help and coming with new ideas for the pipeline.
August 14, 2014, 06:55:00 PM
what i have been saying is no fud.
if you have no problem with the manners of vt creation then fine. but, i do have concerns and i don't like the tactics used in the creation.
i am worried about my investment just like you are.
but there is a difference. i have not invested more than i can afford to lose.
having said that, i do want voot to get stable again.
but i don't see that happening because of few self-righteous people deciding to form a group/foundation without the input of the whole community.
you can leave if that is what you want.
but, don't blame me for what voot is today.
if you have no problem with the manners of vt creation then fine. but, i do have concerns and i don't like the tactics used in the creation.
i am worried about my investment just like you are.
but there is a difference. i have not invested more than i can afford to lose.
having said that, i do want voot to get stable again.
but i don't see that happening because of few self-righteous people deciding to form a group/foundation without the input of the whole community.
you can leave if that is what you want.
but, don't blame me for what voot is today.
I don't care how much money i invested, i just can't hold a bag of Xcoins without following his thread everyday... What I can see with voot is a sleepy community (don't want voot foundation) vs an active Voot Foundation
These guys are the only ones trying to make this coin better right now...
Look at page 1 and last page, what's new? Anon Exchange BETA, a f*cking useless exchange that nobody will use... not even the final release, oh forgot to told you, the anon exchange beta is even down, and nobody but SmokeTeam got the code.
Quote
THE NUKES HAVE BEEN FIRED. ALL TRADING SYSTEMS HALTED. ///.///0004
http://7mzwlsz44m2ljj23.onion/So nothing, 118 pages of NOTHING and you don't want a Foundation to help this coin?
I understand you might be disappointed but the situation is critic, in 1-2 weeks this coin is dead and worth 1-10 sat if nothing changes, just join the IRC and talk with them
I really don't understand why you don't want it, it can't be worse......
August 14, 2014, 06:18:32 PM
what i have been saying is no fud.
if you have no problem with the manners of vt creation then fine. but, i do have concerns and i don't like the tactics used in the creation.
i am worried about my investment just like you are.
but there is a difference. i have not invested more than i can afford to lose.
having said that, i do want voot to get stable again.
but i don't see that happening because of few self-righteous people deciding to form a group/foundation without the input of the whole community.
you can leave if that is what you want.
but, don't blame me for what voot is today.
if you have no problem with the manners of vt creation then fine. but, i do have concerns and i don't like the tactics used in the creation.
i am worried about my investment just like you are.
but there is a difference. i have not invested more than i can afford to lose.
having said that, i do want voot to get stable again.
but i don't see that happening because of few self-righteous people deciding to form a group/foundation without the input of the whole community.
you can leave if that is what you want.
but, don't blame me for what voot is today.
So basically what you're saying is, that everyone who is trying to help out in the Voot Foundation shouldn't be doing this, and should let Voot die off? (I say die off because in my opinion theres slim to no chance that SMOKE will deliver anything)
August 14, 2014, 06:16:20 PM
SMOKE team is avoiding our questions and demands. We gave them a deadline. After which the poll results will go into effect.
Does everybody know that axedcode has sold all his voot?Why he is still speaking and deciding in the behalf of the voot comunity?
For the someone asking why i have smthng to say,i will put a sell order right in this moment at: 250 sat,that is the sum i will like to sell, after all this drama...unfortunately,losing 4000$
Yes, he did mention that right at the beginning when we joined the foundation. He will help us manage the foundation but rational decisions and not work on emotions. He has come forward because he wants to be involved in the future of voot.
I have no association with him, and instead of thanking him for taking time for voot, there is no sense in complaining about his credentials. Note his position in the foundation is temporary and he is helping us and does not hold permanent position in the foundation. People who have come forward to the voot foundation have joined for the right reasons.
I see it's better to dump now than wait the selling order is being filled:)
these guys don't see it coming.
they want to help, just look at the price : it's going down and you don't want their help/slow it ?
if you have no problem with the manners of vt creation then fine. but, i do have concerns and i don't like the tactics used in the creation.
i am worried about my investment just like you are.
but there is a difference. i have not invested more than i can afford to lose.
having said that, i do want voot to get stable again.
but i don't see that happening because of few self-righteous people deciding to form a group/foundation without the input of the whole community.
you can leave if that is what you want.
but, don't blame me for what voot is today.
August 14, 2014, 04:58:41 PM
and 2 If the exchange was paid for then smoke actually have no rights to this exchange
as they have been paid to do a job.
If they want more money then they need to come out and say why,
however as its stands you've tendered for a job got paid then you must deliver
to the community foundation what they paid for, or it will be nothing but a theft and scam for anything less than that.
The cards are on the table so answers need to be forthcoming on this thread and not in
secret backroom irc chatrooms.
Agree with you sovie. Regarding #2, we need Mscollec to confirm. For the last two days, we are trying to find out the original agreement with Mscollec and smoke. Some people including Jeff have pm'd him about this.
Like you said I also don't see why the smoke team is not handing over the exchange to Jeff or Mscollec. We know Mscollec paid Smoke with the development fund for the creation of the anon exchange. We need his confirmation on the ownership of the exchange and if smoke team has any ownership / stake after the creation of the exchange.
After this, Mscollec also has to confirm the 'agreement' for Voot market and voot cloud.
P.s - it is Mscollec's decision to leave or stay with Voot, but if this coin needs to progress, then we need answers from him.
Thanks
+1
totally agree
August 14, 2014, 04:41:21 PM
SMOKE team is avoiding our questions and demands. We gave them a deadline. After which the poll results will go into effect.
Does everybody know that axedcode has sold all his voot?Why he is still speaking and deciding in the behalf of the voot comunity?
For the someone asking why i have smthng to say,i will put a sell order right in this moment at: 250 sat,that is the sum i will like to sell, after all this drama...unfortunately,losing 4000$
Yes, he did mention that right at the beginning when we joined the foundation. He will help us manage the foundation but rational decisions and not work on emotions. He has come forward because he wants to be involved in the future of voot.
I have no association with him, and instead of thanking him for taking time for voot, there is no sense in complaining about his credentials. Note his position in the foundation is temporary and he is helping us and does not hold permanent position in the foundation. People who have come forward to the voot foundation have joined for the right reasons.
I see it's better to dump now than wait the selling order is being filled:)
these guys don't see it coming.
they want to help, just look at the price : it's going down and you don't want their help/slow it ?
August 14, 2014, 04:38:28 PM
Maybe refund can be another option?
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