Topic: [ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released - page 216. (Read 1356154 times)

::whistling innocently...::

I hope I'm doing this right. lol (Do I just type below the quote etc???)

AltCoinUK - Yeah I guess I'll have to DMOR using your previous posts but honestly… that's a LOT of work. lol

However I remember browsing this forum once… I don't know… weeks ago and I read one of your posts and actually agreed with a good portion of it - but I haven't followed anything in here beyond that.
* I almost wish I had joined earlier when I first became invested in VeriCoin so I could be "up to speed" on everything - then again… coming in a bit late might be a good thing - for everyone.

All that said… Kaz (I think his name is Kaz - apologize if I'm way off the mark) has made some points that I absolutely agree with.

Many of us ARE indeed "bag holders" - although I almost feel as though that's some sort of AltCoin "slur" towards those who believe in the longevity of a coin.
There is definitely some fanaticism and I've always disliked anything overly biased or extreme - politics or otherwise. There ARE legitimate points to be made on both ends of the spectrum but the truth really does reside somewhere near the center.

Here's what happened… the MintPal hack hurt. (Without getting too conspiratorial - there are others out there with agendas who have had VeriCoin in their crosshairs and unfortunately… still do.)

Yet there's something to be said for being one of the first COMPLETELY transparent AltCoin Dev Teams. With the decision to be SO open… they've allowed themselves to become targets at the same time.

Now a FEW people in this "arena" are fairly extreme in their philosophy of everything being ANON - as well as maintaining the so called "purity" of the BlockChain etc.
The irony though lies in the fact that those same people in the AltCoin Community who have used the "Rollback" as a means to beat the "purity of the block chain" drum… are the same people who - after dumping the latest ScamCoin - trade it all in for a fat profit... in FIAT.

Look… VeriCoin… the coin itself, the economic model, the PoS concept, the features, the community, the IDEA… is still in its infancy. This is the beginning. No one is going anywhere. These guys could've taken off just like SO many other coin "Devs" have.
They didn't.
They haven't.
They do NOT WANT to leave.

They're STILL busting their asses determined to make this work.

It's true - they've made a few mistakes - but remember these guys are scientists and programmers… not promoters. They're not marketeers.
They slice up proteins, code and program at their jobs during the day and then ignore their wives and girlfriends at night - working their butts off creating new code, redesigning UI's and generally concentrating on the future of this coin.

So where do I come in?

I've been watching BitCoin since around $17 per share. I had heard of it before that but completely brushed it off. Even at $17 and up… I was too scared to take the risk. I didn't understand the technology… the entire block chain "idea" was foreign to me.
That said... I still kept an eye on it… even on LiteCoin. I ALMOST jumped into mining but when I heard of all the scams of companies not delivering rigs on time or just taking off with other peoples money etc - I said… "Fuck that. That's a big NOPE."

What I do know is… there won't be just ONE "BitCoin". There isn't just ONE Credit Card, ONE bank or even ONE currency. Will it be VeriCoin? I. Don't. Know. Sort of a long shot right?

Well here's what we DO know about VeriCoin. We KNOW it's an awesome piece of tech. We KNOW the Devs are reputable. We KNOW the long term economic model is sound - at least on paper.
We also know that it had a bumpy start - to say the least - and yet the coin didn't die… and the Developers are working harder then ever.
(I'm not sure people realize how much of a toll the MP shenanigans took on these guys. Not just physically - but morale wise too.)

Imagine ALL that work and effort… gone in an instant. POOF! But then you weigh your options and decide to roll back the block chain to BEFORE the thieves did the hack… effectively SAVING… EVERYTHING... only to be berated, accused and burned at the… stake.
(That was a punny.)

Yet, through all of that chaos, here they are.

I'll tell you this… we're building a real team… with real plans… with real investors and one day that entire MP hack fiasco will be an interesting footnote during the humble beginnings of a long term, successful coin.

So yeah… integrity. These guys have it. A whole bunch of it.
They don't have to do this. They have their hands full already! They're breeding promiscuous microbes with raccoons or whatever it is they do in their laboratories. All THREE Devs are going to be successful - WITHOUT VeriCoin.

So give these guys some elbow room. Let them catch their breath.

I know everyone is "down". It's not a great feeling to see your investment lose "perceived value". Listen. Fuck the market. It's full of scam artists and manipulators. The AltCoin market is an UNREGULATED version of penny stocks.
It is NOT an accurate description of the VALUE of ANY company/product/coin and you should not base your opinions on what others think or say.

That includes ME. Don't take MY word for it. Look at what makes VeriCoin FUNDAMENTALLY different from the other coins economically. Look at the features and the transparency.

Most importantly though - look at the resilience. You want perfect? Good luck finding it ANYWHERE else.

You want hard working Devs with integrity and who really believe in something bigger than themselves? VeriCoin.
You want guts? VeriCoin
You want a team with giant balls, a long term vision and the persistence to see it through? VERICOIN.

The next 6 months will be interesting. We'll show you momentum and heart… and ambition - return the favor and we WILL be successful - together.


- Me. VeryVeriViral. Jay Jay. 38. S/W/M. Enjoys long walks in the dark.

PS - I don't get paid a SINGLE SATOSHI for saying ANY of this. Have an amazing night.

every time someone asks something real, you avoid the question...

Exactly the response I thought I would receive.  Nothing new.  Sorry you feel that way.  Don't you grow tired of this?  I'm sure you are just here to bash every attempt of this being something more.  If you are a bagholder like you so like to call it, how is what you are doing going to help affect the final outcome?  If you are just here to bash and try to make it like you are the only one who knows it all, sorry to inform you that you are wrong.  No reply needed.  Thank you very much. 

And here, again, the personal perceptions... and back again to square one. Anything to avoid reality. Oh well, it has quite a decisive way to make itself present.

I also was against it awhile ago and have also changed my mind... your post sums up why perfectly.
+1

God I hate to quote but maybe this one last time,

Not ignoring any evidence, I just see more potential in this than in others.  The fact that this coin has Devs who are known and do interact with the community, although I can see why they have stopped in here, says a lot.  I used to agree on some of your points till  your posts became vulgar and rather boring to read due to the overall content and length just going on and on about how you think things should be and there's no other way.  Like it's your way or the highway.  I think the fact the Devs have been looking at other possibilities and have finally admitted their shortcomings also says a lot about their character.  I agree on the "Good Guys" theme but I also believe the job is not done and the ink is still wet.  Everyone has their own views and or opinions and this back and forth "No you are wrong and I am right" has to stop.  We just need to come together as a community, hold hands, give a big group hug, kiss and make up.  Let bygones be bygones and let's move forward, give our Devs the support they so desperately need and see this project though to the end.

Hi Xosihc,

so did I think a while ago but I changed my mind. Not the arguements are driving me mad, in some points B&A are right and we should think about. It's the way they do it. Would you enter a restaurant, if in front of it two guys are telling you the meat is rotten? You can go in and find out if it's true, but i bet you would go to the next restaurant. That's what is happening here.
They hate VRC and don't want it to succeed, so they try everything to talk it down and keep people out of it.

Whenever VRC was ascending huge sellwalls appeared and I believe the intention is the same.
New customers don't read hours over hours to find out who's right. On every page of the thread you find the negative crap of these guys and run away, that's why I hope this thread will be  closed or at least not be promoted anymore.

Regards,
Michael

sad but true

Why are people arguing with people that were not smart enough to sell after the hack above 30k. There is no hope for these people.

I would say just cash out and move on but that is impossible now. You can hang out with QRK and BC bagholders. WDC and CLOAK guys too. See the trend?

Is "boxxa" 'dev4'?

Although this has absolutely nothing to do with the rumor/possibility, let's get it out of the way first: I don't like "boxxa" at all. I believe he is an insufferable, arrogant SOB.

Now, with that out of the way, is "boxxa" 'dev4'?

I bring up the question because "boxxa" joined the dev team at Pink Coin a couple weeks ago and, after delivering a complex system by which people can send money from their smartphones without having to type the entire wallet address of the receiver -main reason why VeriSMS is actually impossible to use in real life- but rather their email or even a much shortened code made of a few symbols, has now, abruptly, left the Pink team...

Now, Vericoin's devs have said they are developing a similar system to make VerySMS usable (the translation for that would be "we are copying "boxxa's" invention..."), so putting a few dots together, some have come to the "conclusion" that "dev4" could indeed be "boxxa". IF that is the case, I personally would be quite disappointed for the "Good Guys" brand that barely remains Vericoin's only asset, and that in and of itself is quite quickly disappearing, definitely would be sitting on a time bomb with "boxxa" on board.

That said, he cannot be more arrogant than Nosker and Pike have been... the difference being that he can actually code.

Developments regarding this rumor upcoming, I am sure.  

ok gonna try this again... if we can speak as two mature ppl for now...

i understand what your saying and i understand that you've come to that conclusion and are sure about it, but what i really want to know is if you've come to these conclusion ,why do you continue to post here and say those things about the devs etc... anyone who truly believes that should not be invested in vericoin. can u be honest and tell me if your holding a bag and hoping things change so u can recoup and be done with it? or if you actually have hopes that vericoin can be great and are just upset ? i just can't understand your motive..

please try and refrain from being condescending , I'm being 100% neutral right now.

I don't know if you ignore the evidence on purpose or are just trying to convince yourself... it's baffling, really. Look, since the coin was released, there has not been any development, any at all, of any significance. 2 deals with third parties that ONLY benefit those third parties (Moolah and the one behind the Visa prepaid card) and, much more importantly, the already widely evidenced -and, de facto, admitted- incompetence of the three devs. It is admitted and for that reason they are looking at what "dev 4" can offer since they are just not capable of even covering the most basic bases of the current coin (working wallet, even a realistic attempt at a multipool...), much less of progress with the project in any technical -or otherwise- way. There's, I repeat, ample evidence of all of this... even now and in the past 2 months, when the devs have had the luxury of vacation tyime to dedicate to Vericoin... imagine what is going to happen going forward when they have many more pressing obligations.

So it isn't a matter of patience at all. It is a matter of, credibly, honestly, taking a deep look at what the project is and where it stands, not patience.

also scott i would like to add that I've emailed pnosker to find a way so i can accept vericoin in my business website... you can ask him about it. i don't reveal my personal info here exclusively because of altcoinUK and barabbas..i run a clothing manufacturing company and my own brand that i don't need either of those two guys trying some weird kinds of things to sabotage my company... i run it with my two brothers and it wouldn't be fair to them. If you would like to know my twitter account or talk about my business or anything u are concerned about regarding me , plz pm me and ill gladly show you anything you want ,i trust you'll  keep it off this thread

I fully agree with you. I tried many time to reach out, to diffuse previous issues. No go ~

A while back i described this " all it takes an insult, the wrong word and tempers will fly"

Over time I have come to accept the outspoken ones. If they are frustrated investors who wish to vent do so. If they wish to offer advice do so. However this is not what took place. Time and time again we are treated to a barrage of insults, long winded emotionally charged dissertations. it is ok to have different views and opinions, provided we can remain civil.

So have at it, let them write their essays and books.

So the whole website showing the current progress and everything that has already been implemented means nothing???  The fact the price is low is something to be concerned about I agree but just because the Devs are not on here every day like most holding our hands and saying everything is ok and giving us updates doesn't mean there aren't any coming.  Like I have heard numerous times, this is still a coin that's being developed whether it's something we see or it's something that is being done behind the scenes and will see once complete.  This coin is only a few months old at best and I cannot possibly imagine how hard it must be to make everyone happy all at once, develop, have personal lives and still have to come here to listen to all this whining non stop about how this or that sucks and how we as investors are mad about the progress or lack of.  Seems the word patience means very little these days but I honestly think that the ones that have it will be rewarded long term.  

@scottallyn ...look i agree with you completely and my blow out was uncalled for but i tried my best to stay away from it and eventually blew up... i follow and appreciate what u do for vericoin and respect your words always... if i earned a pre ban from the new forums then so be it... I'm not a malicious person and my accounts past shows this ,also people like veryveriviral and socal know me and can tell u themselves, i can accept when I'm wrong and my full retard blowout i apologize for but I've had enough of altcoinUK and barabbas...

if I'm banned from the new thread its ok and completely understand... I'm not the type to overstay my welcome from ppl i respect... i follow u on twitter and love your work.

i obviously won't be coming here for productive information and if i can't go to the moderated thread either theres no reason for me to stay in vericoin... I'm not difficult like altcoinUK or barabbas, I'm not gonna sell and come back to bash vericoin, rather i stay invested or not i respect the devs and vericoin.

Mainly because of work - I haven't had the time to post on here to the degree I would like to.

I would however like to take a moment and chime in my 2 cents on the recent debates and say NO WAY should we moderate these threads. Everyone is entitled to their opinions (both good and bad) and it's sad to think people want to ban those who simply disagree with their side.

It's great to hear there are going to be new, moderated forums outside of BTCtalk.org - I will however continue to use this website as my main channel for communication. Why would I want to go to a website where I only hear like minded people agreeing with every thought? The strength any idea gets comes from those who challenge it.