Topic: [ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released - page 217. (Read 1356154 times)

You are absolutely right ScottAllyn, I have to agree with you.

One minor element that I would disagree on, that my intention was not provoking any one but hoping that the DEVs will say, it's enough, it's really not good investors are unhappy, it's sucks that we failed, lets start working and put the coin to the level that we have promised it's going to be.

I am sure you know I was one of the biggest supporters of the DEVs. It's clear from my posts in this thread and tweets that until the price has not reached the (in my opinion) critical 10k (Aug 12) I had unconditionally supported anything the DEVs did from software development to Wall Street trips to Conference attendance. However, once the price reached the critical 10k level, I believe there is no place for accepting the failure and the not delivering DEVs must be questioned by investors: why there is no progress as well as the investors must demand progress. I thought, since the DEVs asked my investment, it is very reasonable to demand work if the project is failed - which is clearly the case. Well my strategy to demand work didn't work out :-))) and it seems the DEVs are not interested in the opinion of disappointed investors and instead of start delivering they move to another forum.

Again, apart from this aspect of the happenings you are quite right what you said.

Yeah looks like nothing but positive talk about Vericoin, NOT.  Bashing it completely, think you need to take any offers here seriously and just leave this thread.  

Funny how you did a complete 360 starting early/mid August up to now as you were originally for Vericoin and now do everything you can to bash it and everyone who believes in it.

Hopefully

i think within the week there will be a new moderated thread but it won't be on btct... hopefully the devs shut this one down and open a moderated one here aswell, lots of ppl naturally go to btct, i think its necessary imo

Another pumped and dumped coin a shame really it has poten.

Nobody in their right mind believes that the behavior that we've seen here in the past 24 hours is acceptable. As far as I'm concerned, ofp and ereborltc have earned themselves pre-bans on the new forum. Just don't pretend that you're innocent in all of this. You've dirtied your hands in this forum with minimal provocation in the recent past; the fact that it wasn't as aggressive or foul-mouthed does not make it any more acceptable.

Everybody who's been bickering here and getting into flame-wars and angry arguments over the past couple of weeks, do me a favor. Get the hell off these forums for a few days. Find something productive to do with your time for a change.

So when's the new forums live? I'm not been funny but I could have one live within the hour, this waiting around is getting boring!

also if ppl want to see in short what altcoinUK really is about go check out his twitter @altcoinUK ...says it all in a nutshell

but are u serious.... plz the ignore button is right under everyones account name... just click it

you and altcoinUK are a joke... keep trying to play your reverse psychology.. you pushed ppl to their limits and then try and make them the bad guys by talking about their insults toward u two... i don't care what u or altcoinUK thinks ..anyone who's been following knows what u 2 are about and your motives are clearly to bash vericoin and the devs... just dump your bag and get on with your lives.. so pathetic... all you do is call the positive ppl cheerleaders ,its soooo old already, i can't wait for the moderated thread so we never have to see u or your little 2 man posse anymore and we can move forward...

Of course I am not saying that :-)) Of course I should not loose my temper and just ignore the insults and not talk to the trolls (actually you guys are talking about some ignore button here but where is the ignore button so I can avoid the trolls? :-)))

Having said that, knowing myself I am sure I started to talk to everyone with nothing but respect, but if the responses for my initially polite but critical comments the FUDder, fuck-off, piece of shit, asshole, etc, were (the usual responses from socal, ereborltc, ofp), then you can't expect a civil dialogue, or can you? This is the classic case of school boys fighting issue who was the first - for example I never called the devs wannabe before Pnosker basically insulted all investors who lost money saying that they are basically suckers and no one told them to invest ... so in this case no one told the devs to be coin developers or if they think they are then it is better start working (I just mentioning this wannabe developers remark because I have received a few PM that point out that it was unnecessary rude and inappropriate).

Zsp, yourself and all users are quite right that we should not make this thread a war zone. I would be very-very disappointed if my son or daughter would act like this in a community thread. I guess it is a learning curve, learn how to deal with the trolls and remain civil. You see, other day one of the vocal cheerleaders told me this is the Wild West, fuck off looser if you lost money, etc., and such opinion makes you say, ah if this is the Wild West then lets shot. But of course it's wrong, during a gun fire no civil dialogue is possible.

As ALWAYS, no exceptions, happens, people qualify themselves and shoot themselves in the mouth pretty quickly. Inevitably, the homophobe, the racist, the illiterate obsessed with eating dick... they'll all show their colors. And, more importantly, the rest of the people identify them clearly and simply skip their posts. The continuation to that is that they are shamed and they leave. Or continue under another handle. Just another long weekend in the internet refuge for cowards. Like the Mickey Mouse old DMV video: Goes with the territory.

I don't remember all people asking me questions so if I miss someone they can post them again if they are at all interested. I seem to recall someone that was hating himself for posing them... well, don't. Easy enough, right? I don't want you to go on hating yourself and no amount of "wisdom" on my part can possibly counter your self-hatred.

I do remember the questions by someone that obviously has not bothered himself with reading my posts on the matter, which have been quite reiterative. He must find easier to just post them again. Anyway, since he asked nicely, the answers remain the same:

The problem with Vericoin is that the three developers are obviously incompetent -technically and in every other department, from financial acumen to PR to marketing-, hence why nothing has been released or otherwise done in the last 2 months. Additionally, Nosker and Pike are amazingly arrogant, to boot.

There are several other problems with the project, but all derived from that one.

Rational discussion of the Vericoin project is permanently on the table here and anyone interested should not be either discouraged or even influenced by the outbursts and rowdy juvenile -to put it very mildly- behavior of a very few usual suspects.

Discussion of the project though, has proven to be an exercise in futility for months now.

AltcoinUK:

And you are saying that nothing you have said was in any way a personal attack against anyone and you are totally innocent? 

Hi Jay Jay,

Good to see you here, we met on Twitter already, I appreciated your civil comments there and your above suggestion for a civil dialogue is a very good idea :-))

Since I have been writing here a lot, if you don't mind I wouldn't repeat my posts here again. Would you check my posts of last few weeks by clicking on my name and then click on the "Show the last posts of this person" link please? You will get my opinion, view and answers for all your questions by checking out my posts. Once you gathered the info please let me know if you need any more information. Let me know if you disagree with anything in my posts or if you think my views, statements or conclusions are incorrect, or your view differs from mine. Please don't hesitate to point out any errors in my posts in case if you find any - I am willing to admit if anything were incorrect or inappropriate in my posts. Also, I will be more than happy to explain why my seemingly harsh comments perfectly justifiable in my opinion (and of course in case you are interested in that explanation :-))

Also, since it seems you are concerned about the atmosphere of this thread, I would be interested in your view on the personal attacks and insults targeted to any and even the more civil criticisms in this thread or is that your concern at all? Knowing you, I am sure you disagree with the personal attacks and insults and you wish to address that issue as well.

Thanks :-)))

I vote for banning Barabbas, altcoinUK and MYSELF from this thread.
I vote for HAVING THE ABILITY TO BAN ANYONE WHO IS TOXIC TO THE CIVILIZED DEBATE IN THIS THREAD.
I vote for having a CONTROLLED and MODERATED THREAD.

also @zsp i see you've come in here a few times and said "why coin so low? dead coin" and also a couple more posts like that regarding peoples price predictions... unfortunately now what altcoinUK and barabbas have done is make it very hard to trust ppl , as we don't know if they are one of their secondary accounts....u also have broken english just like them (nothing wrong with that just saying its a little weird) ...

anyhow unlike them two i can admit when I'm wrong and i was wrong for the way i blew up on them but i don't apologize ... as long as they are here there is no fixing this thread it will continue to be a war zone with or without me... u can quote me on this.

honestly if you think I'm toxic to the thread you clearly haven't looked back and read how this began, i been here for long and been civil...everyone has tried to be civil with altcoinUK and barabbas... clearly barabbas hasn't answered and you seem to be on their side...hmmm anyhow i don't care for conspiracies anymore and yesterday i lost my cool and do apologize for my childish behaviour ,but i was pushed to my limits... i strongly believe this thread needs to be shut down and a moderated btct thread needs to be open .... i don't know what your intentions are but my account is open for anyone to go back and read the type of person i am, i never act that way or spread fud...its all there go look into it.... these two guys have taken this to another lvl and one by one people lose it on them which is what they are trying to do...it finally worked on me and i DONT regret a word i have said to him... its about time they are put in their place... i will not disappear from vericoin as I'm a true believer in the coin and the dev team... and i also won't feed those two anymore , i got it out of my system, but i will continue to ask for this thread to be shut down if the circus doesn't stop ,this is toxic for vericoin , and truly the fact that u stick up for the two ppl that put this thread int this state really makes me question your motives...

Hmm, strange I have 16 active connections and shows over 19M staking

I wish i knew. A while back Doug came here and had a positive exchange with the 2 most verbally critics here. At which point it was civil, positive. For once we were working together. Fast forward a few days later, we have this fine mess. 

Whatever this is..no thanks 

this happened to me a while ago so i am currently re-synching my wallet.. deleted everything except the wallet.dat.. i dont know any other way to fix it.. noticed network stake was so low only 76k something, so i must have forked?