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I'm holding on for the long shot either way but tbh those two responses are just the same ol same ol, nothing new, could be complete BS. I'd guess they've got about another month before Trex moves to delist if we stay under 10 BTC/day for too long.
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Message from the dev. One of the community members received a reply that they are working on zcash implementation.
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Doesnt bag holders worry that the only exchange this is traded on is Bittrex?

If Bittrex delists VTR or Bittrex is shutdown for whatever reason there is no trading for VTR and other exchanges won't list something that has been dead in development nothing to show for this long.


Yeah that's a concern, but the volume has been enough for them to profit off the market, and so it will stay. If volume dries up it's screwed.


What concerns me more is BitTrex's behavior recently of silently banning thousands of accounts, revoking previously accepted verification levels, and not saying a damn thing about it for days while everybody panics. I moved all my funds off of Trex and there's a decent chance I don't return based on this recent behavior. Shameful to be purposefully silent while taking such drastic moves.
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Doesnt bag holders worry that the only exchange this is traded on is Bittrex?

If Bittrex delists VTR or Bittrex is shutdown for whatever reason there is no trading for VTR and other exchanges won't list something that has been dead in development nothing to show for this long.
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JPMorgan Integrates Zcash Privacy Tech Into Quorum Blockchain

https://www.coindesk.com/jpmorgan-integrates-zcash-privacy-tech-enterprise-blockchain/

Someone really does know something we don't. All of a sudden people want to add Z Cash privacy features to their chains.

VTR devs came out with that idea about the same time as JPMorgan partnered with Z Cash devs.
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I'm understand this FUD, people waiting for years, people missed a lot of others pumps ... and silence from developers.
But what I can't understand, who's buying this coin during last 3 months with huge green candles sometimes even for hundreds btc in one order for price much higher from market?


This is literally the primary reason I still hold some VTR lol.... I figure someone knows something I don't and is happy with the cheap coins. Repeatedly. For months.

It's very odd. You can't even construe it as someone profiting or manipulating the market, there is no way to spin it except for whoever that buyer is, they are continually losing money - the question is why, and I'm willing to hold a wee bit to find out the conclusion to this mystery! Invest accordingly because it's entirely possible it's some speculator like me that thinks he knows better, but actually knows nothing. But the frequency, persistence, and the sheer number of VTR purchased... man that'd be a real ballsy move for someone without legit insider info.

From what I can see, what you've described is the ONLY reason to want to buy VTR right now. That's the only sign of life.
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I pm'd him a month or 2 ago and he said its still being actively developed. Response was very quick.

Sorry but this isn't good enough.
There are people coming in the slack trying to pretend they got responses from him with insider information and no one can prove it.

Even if he said it's still in development, that isn't saying much if he won't even come on the thread and explain what's going on or message people who have been following the project since the early days.

Have you ever considered that it could be your aggressive attitude that the Dev doesn't respond to?

This guy seems as genuine as they come. There is no reason to slap him down and call him out because you don't believe him.

I think if anything, out of all the people here, I've been among the most patient. It's only very recently that I lost my sense of humor about this.

Trust me when I say: the nice, polite emails and messages have all been tried with no response. And not just by me, I get BCC'd in some of those messages and people have really taken the time to try and get the dev to come and tell us something.
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It's not fud if it's true.
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I understand this FUD, people waiting for years, people missed a lot of others pumps ... and silence from developers.
But what I can't understand, who's buying this coin during last 3 months with huge green candles sometimes even for hundreds btc in one order for price much higher from market?
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I pm'd him a month or 2 ago and he said its still being actively developed. Response was very quick.

Sorry but this isn't good enough.
There are people coming in the slack trying to pretend they got responses from him with insider information and no one can prove it.

Even if he said it's still in development, that isn't saying much if he won't even come on the thread and explain what's going on or message people who have been following the project since the early days.

Have you ever considered that it could be your aggressive attitude that the Dev doesn't respond to?

This guy seems as genuine as they come. There is no reason to slap him down and call him out because you don't believe him.
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I pm'd him a month or 2 ago and he said its still being actively developed. Response was very quick.

Sorry but this isn't good enough.
There are people coming in the slack trying to pretend they got responses from him with insider information and no one can prove it.

Even if he said it's still in development, that isn't saying much if he won't even come on the thread and explain what's going on or message people who have been following the project since the early days.
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Don't forget to ask pnoch about the status of this project and if he will be able to compete with FLIXXO. The email is: [email protected]

If pnoch isn't going to update us I'm going to invest in FLIXXO. Why did he start the coin and a thread at bitcointalk if he doesn't want to keep the community around this coin. Or maybe he fooled us all and sold the tech to FLIXXO dev team/joined them.  Huh
Vtr dev team is not even trying to reclaim their account or make a new one. They gave up on this project and the investors.
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I pm'd him a month or 2 ago and he said its still being actively developed. Response was very quick.

:O

 Huh
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I pm'd him a month or 2 ago and he said its still being actively developed. Response was very quick.
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I guess my only question, ik_do - if there's no torrent code at all available to fork from, why would a developer want to come and takeover/fork this project versus just starting a new one without all the headache/baggage?

There's a number of things that make the project interesting. Including exchange listing and mostly the age, there's no chance you would get a coin to get this sort of market or community attention nowadays unless you were throwing major money behind it.

Regardless I am only optimistic about this project in a very cautious manner. Given the reappearing act that occurred recently my own personal interest has reduced quite significantly. I'm not sure of the worth of putting time, energy and money behind a project if it's going to end up being a game of whack-a-mole with the developer.

The same developer who so far has dodged every question relating to the status of the project and only seems to appear when competing projects are bought up.

Besides this, there has been another competing project which has come to my attention recently. Although I don't care for the project personally and don't have any interest in investing in it, it did bring to light one of the key limitations of trying to implement torrents on a blockchain, which is something I touched upon in the slack some time ago--they would have to be different torrent files and other torrent clients would thus be incompatible with them. This is a huge factor in everything. Whether there is another project or not, I'm not so sure that torrents are the way to go anymore. I'm still interested in a marketplace for files and bandwidth, but the key question right now is whether torrents are the technology to achieve this.

The best question I'm asking myself right now is if a Bittorrent / Bitcoin implementation is pretty much the holy grail and there have been at least somewhere in the region of 10-15 projects to attempt it... How come none have had anything to show for it?

Of particular note is JoyStream, which has had the most backing of any project I'm aware of in this space (in the region of millions as far as I'm aware, but I can't find an exact figure). One would assume that with such a large financial backing the project would flourish, but instead, it hasn't had a release in something like 2 years. The team still update their reddit and such by replying to people who are interested, but they haven't really shared any progress in quite some time.

JoyStream's biggest limitation has of course been the fact that its been engineered to run off of Bitcoin.
3 months ago in June, the founder of JoyStream made a comment about the $150 million USD that Bancor had received in funding:
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"As someone actually building a decentralized application on bitcoin, it really makes me think what I am giving up in terms of community support and funding by staying on the platform."
(source)

Supposing that JoyStream pivots to a new platform besides Bitcoin at any point in the near future (which is main criticism most people have of it, being that Bitcoin transactions are hugely expensive and Bitcoin is not suited to thousands of small transactions) then this project has no real purpose.

Again, I've been touching on the subject of the 'race' to deliver the kind of idea that vTorrent (presumably) has been in previous posts on here. At any time another entity can easily move, shift or create something entirely new that could win the race before this project or any other. It's a bad prospect to be in a space of daily dramatic change (for instance the recent resurfance of pnoch) and keep the ship sailing towards the same heading.

Your comment holds true, I have no doubts about it. It would take a significant amount of time to even get a fork started, and time is not something that we can just assume is on our side because the other 15 attempts at Torrent on blockchain never made a dent. Project number 16 might come along in 10 minutes time.

This is what I said about vTorrent in terms of being a moonshot/crazy risk project:
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Again, I've been touching on the subject of the 'race' to deliver the kind of idea that vTorrent (presumably) has been in previous posts on here. At any time another entity can easily move, shift or create something entirely new that could win the race before this project or any other. It's a bad prospect to be in a space of daily dramatic change (for instance the recent resurfance of pnoch) and keep the ship sailing towards the same heading.

There's another project aiming to achieve exactly what vTorrent was supposed to (if this developer had ever bothered to post a single fucking github commit in the past calendar year). And guess what? It's made by the Popcorn Time guy.

https://icomagazine.com/flixxo-decentralized-video-content/
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/cryptocurrency/233099-flixxo-the-blockchain-powered-bittorrent-video-platform.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2017/10/08/can-blockchain-challenge-content-platform-giants-facebook-youtube-domination
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/endedflixxo-a-social-economy-based-on-video-sharing-platform-popcorntimersk-2168758
Flixxo is going to be a blockchain-powered video/content market where users are rewarded in tokens for "creating, watching, or seeding videos over BitTorrent"


Great. Great. Great.
Where's the dev? Not a single word in ages. Logs in plenty and doesn't say anything. No responses to emails, no responses to PMs, no responses to this thread.

This is now the second project aiming to do exactly what this project was supposed to do that I've stumbled upon in the past few days.

GG.
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Just an update of sorts.
It appears a significant amount of accounts have been compromised in the past few weeks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0) and that there must be some form of exploit going around for the bitcointalk.org forums

This may mean that the dev account being compromised is factual, although its impossible to tell for certain.

Having said that, there's still been no email replies or news or information or any attempt at telling anyone what is going on from what I've seen.
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Thank you
That has got the wallet working
Do you have any links to hows to fix an unconfirmed transaction I have just one after putting in the new conf file with the nodes
Thanks in advance

All Good now has gone through, though the wallet still shows the transaction as unconfirmed!
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Thank you
That has got the wallet working
Do you have any links to hows to fix an unconfirmed transaction I have just one after putting in the new conf file with the nodes
Thanks in advance
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Does anyone have working nodes to share?
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