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hero member
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You could always link up with the Sapience IBTP and let XAINET do the routing for you.  vTorrent then could focus on doing the Kazathing and make those magnetic links useable.
legendary
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Interesting question (I've cross posted it)

Vtorrent looks interesting. Have any of the ideas been implemented ?

is vTorrents working with the SuperNET guys?
legendary
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SoNiC BooM
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So the only way to get VTR (besides faucet or giveaway) is to buy it?

Do you have any idea of what each VTR would be worth in terms of bandwidth, or is this something that would change over time? Would the reward for lesser seeded torrents be higher?

Good question..and why would people want to go from paying NOTHING when downloading a torrent to PAYING?? what advantages are there of using Vtorrent and paying in VTR than just using good ol torrent for FREE?.

As I said earlier there are many torrent networks that are closed (you can do your own research on the matter); especially for files which have less demand, they can easily die out from a lack of seeding.

There are also some files on popular websites which die off because of a lack of seeders.

The other factor is that until now all torrent websites have been centralized--they come and go over time. The idea of this (if I understand it right) is to have a decentralized database of magnet links.

This is pretty much going to turn what bittorrent currently is into something more like Kazaa (i.e. easy to use for anyone).

I think the wallet download should include some free funds or there should be a way that anyone from anywhere can start using the program without having to invest first; this would remove a huge barrier of entry.

If vtorrent will ever work it would need the following elements to be succesful in my opinion:
- reward for offering content, not the downloaders pay, but the system. Maybe initially use the 6% premine for that, or make some kind of masternodes to handle the payments.
- a good system not only consisting of a decentralized database of magnet links (which in my opinion is not the key to success), but also  consisting of a good way to read and search in that decentralized database (datamining) without needing to access a website that could go offline anytime.
- a developer that is open about what is happening in development and attracts other good and skilled developers to participate in a joined effort.
- open source code. Closed source will not work because nobody will trust the code. We are talking about wallets here and an anonymous developer.

Thank you for your input. Spot on. I really believe as a team we can get this Project going. I really do believe in my gut this is the direction Torrents should be going.
sr. member
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So the only way to get VTR (besides faucet or giveaway) is to buy it?

Do you have any idea of what each VTR would be worth in terms of bandwidth, or is this something that would change over time? Would the reward for lesser seeded torrents be higher?

Good question..and why would people want to go from paying NOTHING when downloading a torrent to PAYING?? what advantages are there of using Vtorrent and paying in VTR than just using good ol torrent for FREE?.

As I said earlier there are many torrent networks that are closed (you can do your own research on the matter); especially for files which have less demand, they can easily die out from a lack of seeding.

There are also some files on popular websites which die off because of a lack of seeders.

The other factor is that until now all torrent websites have been centralized--they come and go over time. The idea of this (if I understand it right) is to have a decentralized database of magnet links.

This is pretty much going to turn what bittorrent currently is into something more like Kazaa (i.e. easy to use for anyone).

I think the wallet download should include some free funds or there should be a way that anyone from anywhere can start using the program without having to invest first; this would remove a huge barrier of entry.

If vtorrent will ever work it would need the following elements to be succesful in my opinion:
- reward for offering content, not the downloaders pay, but the system. Maybe initially use the 6% premine for that, or make some kind of masternodes to handle the payments.
- a good system not only consisting of a decentralized database of magnet links (which in my opinion is not the key to success), but also  consisting of a good way to read and search in that decentralized database (datamining) without needing to access a website that could go offline anytime.
- a developer that is open about what is happening in development and attracts other good and skilled developers to participate in a joined effort.
- open source code. Closed source will not work because nobody will trust the code. We are talking about wallets here and an anonymous developer.
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when will someone come up with how to distribute the data across the blockchain? this year ? next year?


so just advice to anyone buying this right now .....we dont even know if this will work out....however here is some motivation


http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kickass-so-torrent-website-goes-offline-domain-name-seized-list-alternate-websites-623002
hero member
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one question

1. Lets say this works out....everyone is seeding / uploading..how will people being awarded the VTR for uploading/seeding be able to cash out/exchange the VTR for BTC or fiat ? why would anyone want to BUY VTR ? ....what would be the point? People are just going to be stuck with mass amounts of VTR with no one to sell on the exchanges to

Current model is as follow, seeding and uploading will NOT generate new coin. Sharer will be awarded directly from other user by sending (paying) them to download the content of the torrent they've uploaded or currently seeding, as a result, they should be able to cash out/exchange the VTR for BTC or fiat from the users that need to download the content providing by the sharer.

I hope this should clear up your confusion, we are always open to new ideas, and constructive criticism are always welcome.

Thank you for your support.

So the only way to get VTR (besides faucet or giveaway) is to buy it?

Do you have any idea of what each VTR would be worth in terms of bandwidth, or is this something that would change over time? Would the reward for lesser seeded torrents be higher?

Good question..and why would people want to go from paying NOTHING when downloading a torrent to PAYING?? what advantages are there of using Vtorrent and paying in VTR than just using good ol torrent for FREE?.

As I said earlier there are many torrent networks that are closed (you can do your own research on the matter); especially for files which have less demand, they can easily die out from a lack of seeding.

There are also some files on popular websites which die off because of a lack of seeders.

The other factor is that until now all torrent websites have been centralized--they come and go over time. The idea of this (if I understand it right) is to have a decentralized database of magnet links.

This is pretty much going to turn what bittorrent currently is into something more like Kazaa (i.e. easy to use for anyone).

I think the wallet download should include some free funds or there should be a way that anyone from anywhere can start using the program without having to invest first; this would remove a huge barrier of entry.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
one question

1. Lets say this works out....everyone is seeding / uploading..how will people being awarded the VTR for uploading/seeding be able to cash out/exchange the VTR for BTC or fiat ? why would anyone want to BUY VTR ? ....what would be the point? People are just going to be stuck with mass amounts of VTR with no one to sell on the exchanges to

Current model is as follow, seeding and uploading will NOT generate new coin. Sharer will be awarded directly from other user by sending (paying) them to download the content of the torrent they've uploaded or currently seeding, as a result, they should be able to cash out/exchange the VTR for BTC or fiat from the users that need to download the content providing by the sharer.

I hope this should clear up your confusion, we are always open to new ideas, and constructive criticism are always welcome.

Thank you for your support.

So the only way to get VTR (besides faucet or giveaway) is to buy it?

Do you have any idea of what each VTR would be worth in terms of bandwidth, or is this something that would change over time? Would the reward for lesser seeded torrents be higher?

Good question..and why would people want to go from paying NOTHING when downloading a torrent to PAYING?? what advantages are there of using Vtorrent and paying in VTR than just using good ol torrent for FREE?.
hero member
Activity: 522
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one question

1. Lets say this works out....everyone is seeding / uploading..how will people being awarded the VTR for uploading/seeding be able to cash out/exchange the VTR for BTC or fiat ? why would anyone want to BUY VTR ? ....what would be the point? People are just going to be stuck with mass amounts of VTR with no one to sell on the exchanges to

Current model is as follow, seeding and uploading will NOT generate new coin. Sharer will be awarded directly from other user by sending (paying) them to download the content of the torrent they've uploaded or currently seeding, as a result, they should be able to cash out/exchange the VTR for BTC or fiat from the users that need to download the content providing by the sharer.

I hope this should clear up your confusion, we are always open to new ideas, and constructive criticism are always welcome.

Thank you for your support.

So the only way to get VTR (besides faucet or giveaway) is to buy it?

Do you have any idea of what each VTR would be worth in terms of bandwidth, or is this something that would change over time? Would the reward for lesser seeded torrents be higher?
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
one question

1. Lets say this works out....everyone is seeding / uploading..how will people being awarded the VTR for uploading/seeding be able to cash out/exchange the VTR for BTC or fiat ? why would anyone want to BUY VTR ? ....what would be the point? People are just going to be stuck with mass amounts of VTR with no one to sell on the exchanges to

Current model is as follow, seeding and uploading will NOT generate new coin. Sharer will be awarded directly from other user by sending (paying) them to download the content of the torrent they've uploaded or currently seeding, as a result, they should be able to cash out/exchange the VTR for BTC or fiat from the users that need to download the content providing by the sharer.

I hope this should clear up your confusion, we are always open to new ideas, and constructive criticism are always welcome.

Thank you for your support.

I see...and why would people want to go from paying NOTHING when downloading a torrent to PAYING?? what advantages are there of using Vtorrent and paying in VTR than just using good ol torrent for FREE?.
full member
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one question

1. Lets say this works out....everyone is seeding / uploading..how will people being awarded the VTR for uploading/seeding be able to cash out/exchange the VTR for BTC or fiat ? why would anyone want to BUY VTR ? ....what would be the point? People are just going to be stuck with mass amounts of VTR with no one to sell on the exchanges to

Current model is as follow, seeding and uploading will NOT generate new coin. Sharer will be awarded directly from other user by sending (paying) them to download the content of the torrent they've uploaded or currently seeding, as a result, they should be able to cash out/exchange the VTR for BTC or fiat from the users that need to download the content providing by the sharer.

I hope this should clear up your confusion, we are always open to new ideas, and constructive criticism are always welcome.

Thank you for your support.
hero member
Activity: 522
Merit: 500
one question

1. Lets say this works out....everyone is seeding / uploading..how will people being awarded the VTR for uploading/seeding be able to cash out/exchange the VTR for BTC or fiat ? why would anyone want to BUY VTR ? ....what would be the point? People are just going to be stuck with mass amounts of VTR with no one to sell on the exchanges to

Those who currently do not seed or those with poor upstream connections. It will become an incentive for older torrents* to stay alive a lot, lot longer (perhaps indefinitely). This could easily replace quite a few closed services that currently exist.



* = in this instance I am referring to linux ISOs distributed by torrent obviously
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one question

1. Lets say this works out....everyone is seeding / uploading..how will people being awarded the VTR for uploading/seeding be able to cash out/exchange the VTR for BTC or fiat ? why would anyone want to BUY VTR ? ....what would be the point? People are just going to be stuck with mass amounts of VTR with no one to sell on the exchanges to
hero member
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Noticed that the top addresses on Bittrex are getting fatter...keep an eye on this coin ppl, could be huge!!
legendary
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Absolute nonsense; all coins should be released on all OS and Linux/open source should be the first priority.

I am also building new Beta client for Windows users, but it will not be release until I could find a work around for Windows QT static build and Webkit limitation. (Please see. https://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.7/platform-notes.html)

Please keep in mind that the currency part of this project is completely 'open source' as it should be for all crypto-currency.

I have decided to 'closed source' all of the unique features of vTorrent's client such as in-client trading, trading bot, push notification system, including new locking (encryption) system.

Source for BitTorrent implement in-client will most likely be closed at least until the first beta or the official release of the client with the BitTorrent functions implemented.

Thank you all for your support.

If you are using BitTorrent, then take a look at the darkleaks work when you start planning.

https://github.com/darkwallet/darkleaks/

They are also using bittorrent to distribute files. Maybe some useful work and thinking there. it is still alpha.

It may not suit what you have in mind, but could help.
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Absolute nonsense; all coins should be released on all OS and Linux/open source should be the first priority.

I am also building new Beta client for Windows users, but it will not be release until I could find a work around for Windows QT static build and Webkit limitation. (Please see. https://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.7/platform-notes.html)

Please keep in mind that the currency part of this project is completely 'open source' as it should be for all crypto-currency.

I have decided to 'closed source' all of the unique features of vTorrent's client such as in-client trading, trading bot, push notification system, including new locking (encryption) system.

Source for BitTorrent implement in-client will most likely be closed at least until the first beta or the official release of the client with the BitTorrent functions implemented.

Thank you all for your support.
sr. member
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you know what I do not understand these forums when you no longer believe in this coin you 'll just step out instead of sitting whine  Cry Kiss


Why I am here? Maybe for  the sake of freedom of speech? Or maybe I am here because I do not want people to lose money to a Dev who obviously is not going to deliver. Sure hope I am wrong in this one, but I have learned that most of the time if the Dev is as vague about his progress as this one, he is trying to hide his incompetence or unwillingness to deliver.

BTW, are you going to test the new beta?


Yes i Will test the New beta i try to test in 2 days
sr. member
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you know what I do not understand these forums when you no longer believe in this coin you 'll just step out instead of sitting whine  Cry Kiss


Why I am here? Maybe for  the sake of freedom of speech? Or maybe I am here because I do not want people to lose money to a Dev who obviously is not going to deliver. Sure hope I am wrong in this one, but I have learned that most of the time if the Dev is as vague about his progress as this one, he is trying to hide his incompetence or unwillingness to deliver.

BTW, are you going to test the new beta?
sr. member
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And by the way i can´t download any wallet from dev ann post, (maybe the files are deleted, the link follow only to filedropper.com ). Can someone  try?

Thank you for your report,

All links has been updated and link for new beta (OSX version) is also posted in the first post as feedback from private beta has been good so far.

Thank you for your support.

Dev please compile a Windows version of the beta, if you want to be taken serious.
Also do something with the feedback people are giving here, for example, change the total to 10 million and the premine in 6% in the OP, because the 20 million and 3% are not correct, as we have stated before.



I have a tip for you, sell your BTC and buy an iMac then you have a good computer , windows sucks , look at the problems that people have with windows wallet and people who have problems imac
99% windos problems
01 % imac

have patience everything will be fine , I have 100 % confidence in the dev
better good programming slowly
quickly and you get garbage


 Grin


Absolute nonsense; all coins should be released on all OS and Linux/open source should be the first priority.

I agree with you  Smiley I am not using Windows myself BTW, was asking it for other people, I am a Linux and open source proponent. Have been using Linux since 15 years (specifically Ubuntu in the last 5 years) and have not used Windows for quite some time. I am able to compile for Linux, so would not be a problem for me if Dev would put the BETA source code on Github, but he seems to have some problems with that.

BTW, I see no progress with this coin at all, but might be only me having too high standards.
Anyway I see Frazazel has an iMac, so at least he will be able to test the new beta. Would be nice to hear from you and see some screenshots and commentary on the exchange features.


you know what I do not understand these forums when you no longer believe in this coin you 'll just step out instead of sitting whine  Cry Kiss
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