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Topic: [ANN][X11] X11/Darkcoin Gpu Miner - updated to use leaked binaries - even faster - page 16. (Read 102477 times)

hero member
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You guys sure this miner doesn't submit fake shares to offset the increase in hash-rate?

Because I have no idea how it mines 40-50% faster while using 10% more electricty.



this alone make it smell like a big scam, 50% more hash, but 10% more consumption? nah i'm not sold on this

you guys should watch your profit, maybe fake shares are submitted

Could be real.  For a similar example, for Quark algo I get almost 100% faster hashing on 6xxx series cards with Smelter than SPHminer.

As spoetnik said, it's easy to fake shares...it happened with quark and it'll happen with x11 too.
Heck, look at myriad, it had tons of problems with fake shares at the pools.
legendary
Activity: 854
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You guys sure this miner doesn't submit fake shares to offset the increase in hash-rate?

Because I have no idea how it mines 40-50% faster while using 10% more electricty.

Code refactoring can work wonders.  There is plenty of room to optimize AMD code to produce more hash at the same wattage.

Optimized Nvidia code is producing 2+ mhs @ 30w on a 750 Ti and 5.5mhs+ on 780 Tis @ ~250w.

AMD code is so unoptimized for x11 it's nearly criminal.  
legendary
Activity: 1382
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If you run this on a dedicated rig used solely for mining and nothing else, is there anyway a virus can get onto your home router and try to get data from a home computer?

Or would a firewall have protection from that?



if the there is a rootkit in this miner he can control your computer, via remote control

I mean the computer that is mining currently, all it does is mine. I never use it for anything else. It just uses wifi to connect to the home router.


If you are running some code on a mining rig, computer or whatever, an attacker could potentially use this as a vector to attack the rest of your network. Especially since most people trust everything else that is on their home network/wifi. So, running untrusted binaries is asking for trouble. That said, I have run this miner and I have not seen anything suspicious so far.

For extra security, you could put it on it's own subnet without access to the rest of your network. That could reduce the risk of attacking your network, but an attacker could use your mining computer for sending spam, attacking others or whatever they like. I mean, with the install of $RANDOM_BINARY you could end up with anything...
legendary
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You guys sure this miner doesn't submit fake shares to offset the increase in hash-rate?

Because I have no idea how it mines 40-50% faster while using 10% more electricty.



this alone make it smell like a big scam, 50% more hash, but 10% more consumption? nah i'm not sold on this

you guys should watch your profit, maybe fake shares are submitted

Could be real.  For a similar example, for Quark algo I get almost 100% faster hashing on 6xxx series cards with Smelter than SPHminer.
NRD
newbie
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I still can't believe people are using this . . . Be very careful with this pre-compiled software, with no source code being available, there could be a lot of nasties included in it.

I think people r testing it on some standalone rigs... i mean where they don't have any documents, wallets or sensible data...
Sure otherwise it'd be a risk...

That's my point, I doubt half the users here understand the potential risk they're taking. All they see is "40% faster" and their eyes light up with dollar signs. While it could be completely harmless, it could also have any number of ways of owning your system injected into it. Look at the methods employed by this "dev", first he breaks the GPL license, then he demands 2% of your mining time. I wouldn't trust someone with a closed source binary that behaves in such a manner, and I don't think the majority of users should either unless they know enough to be running it in a safe environment. At the very least make sure there are no wallets stored on the machine you are using it on.  I see people posting issues with simple config problems, I would wager that the vast majority of these people don't understand the difference between closed source and open source, let alone what it means to trust someone enough to run their privately compiled binary on your system. No offense meant to anyone with config issues, but there are a lot of new users in the crypto world. Best to hold off on this "too good to be true" miner until the source has been released and vetted by trusted members of the community.

I fear my words will just fall upon deaf ears though, I probably should have made the text red with size 100 font . . . oh well. If they're smart enough to read it, just maybe they'll heed it.
legendary
Activity: 3808
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If you run this on a dedicated rig used solely for mining and nothing else, is there anyway a virus can get onto your home router and try to get data from a home computer?

Or would a firewall have protection from that?



if the there is a rootkit in this miner he can control your computer, via remote control

I mean the computer that is mining currently, all it does is mine. I never use it for anything else. It just uses wifi to connect to the home router.

legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
If you run this on a dedicated rig used solely for mining and nothing else, is there anyway a virus can get onto your home router and try to get data from a home computer?

Or would a firewall have protection from that?



if there is a rootkit in this miner he can control your computer, via remote control
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
If you run this on a dedicated rig used solely for mining and nothing else, is there anyway a virus can get onto your home router and try to get data from a home computer?

Or would a firewall have protection from that?

newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
You guys sure this miner doesn't submit fake shares to offset the increase in hash-rate?

Because I have no idea how it mines 40-50% faster while using 10% more electricty.



this alone make it smell like a big scam, 50% more hash, but 10% more consumption? nah i'm not sold on this

you guys should watch your profit, maybe fake shares are submitted

My profits are up and my pool is reporting the same hash rate as the miner.  I don't think it's a scam, just a developer who doesn't mind breaking the GPL.

ccMiner increased X11 hash rate at least 100% by now and power consumption is maybe 20% higher at most.  You can get an increase in hash rate without the same increase in power usage by optimizing the code.
member
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You guys sure this miner doesn't submit fake shares to offset the increase in hash-rate?

Because I have no idea how it mines 40-50% faster while using 10% more electricty.



this alone make it smell like a big scam, 50% more hash, but 10% more consumption? nah i'm not sold on this

you guys should watch your profit, maybe fake shares are submitted
It must be so. Dont use this miner just to be safe   Grin
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
You guys sure this miner doesn't submit fake shares to offset the increase in hash-rate?

Because I have no idea how it mines 40-50% faster while using 10% more electricty.



this alone make it smell like a big scam, 50% more hash, but 10% more consumption? nah i'm not sold on this

you guys should watch your profit, maybe fake shares are submitted
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
tried it out and it made my 80MH farm into 118 MH farm )

cgwatcher is catching it when it tries to steal hash.



That's not a farm, more a "Garden"  Grin
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
You guys sure this miner doesn't submit fake shares to offset the increase in hash-rate?

Because I have no idea how it mines 40-50% faster while using 10% more electricty.

full member
Activity: 139
Merit: 100
Dev will get no money, but still part of the miner work will idle
We can edit c:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts 127.0.0.1 drkp2pool.girino.org hirop2pool.girino.org dilmacoin.girino.org p2phash.com
hero member
Activity: 848
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For all.. just block port 7903 (tcp) in firewall.
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #1qKDvDxzzgPl19ja
full member
Activity: 175
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tried it out and it made my 80MH farm into 118 MH farm )

cgwatcher is catching it when it tries to steal hash.

full member
Activity: 253
Merit: 100
I still can't believe people are using this . . . Be very careful with this pre-compiled software, with no source code being available, there could be a lot of nasties included in it.

I think people r testing it on some standalone rigs... i mean where they don't have any documents, wallets or sensible data...
Sure otherwise it'd be a risk...
full member
Activity: 253
Merit: 100
Here my first test.
I tried to do it as accurate as i could considering not the shown hashrate but the block solved.

2 rigs with exactly the same config (4x7950)
They were both mining in solo on the same wallet on a low diff coin (one block solved every 2.5 mins approx).

Results after apporx 8 hours of mining:

Rig1 (sph-sgminer)
Blocks solved: 92
Power consumption 450w
Hashrate displayed: 7.2Mh/s


Rig2 (x11-sgminer - donation disabled)
Blocks solved: 103 (+12%)
Power consumption: 480w (+6.7%)
Hashrate displayed: 9.9MH/s (+37.5%)

Going now to do the same test in pool configuration: 2 same rigs, same coin, same pool with prop payout, 2 different accounts to compare earnings.
I'll let you know after approx 8 hours of mining.


Results look good.
How did you go about disabling the donation?

P C 0
NRD
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
I still can't believe people are using this . . . Be very careful with this pre-compiled software, with no source code being available, there could be a lot of nasties included in it.
legendary
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
What is "p c 0"?

The hotkeys you can press in the open miner window.

P = pool settings
c = change pool management
0 = failover only

I guess this removes the quota that points 2% of your hashrate at the OP's pool?
Not sure if it works yet.

It does work very well if it sees your fail-over pool alive.

If your fail-over pool does die, it will revert to another pool (and potentially Girino's) if you don't have a back-up set for your fail-safe.
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