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Topic: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite - NEW Thread | 1st mini-blockchain coin | Bounties! - page 95. (Read 215666 times)

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xcn  wallet still has a lot of problems,Many Chinese people can not synchronize wallet, mistakes

I give cryptoid.info  btc
add xcn
But he said the block is not complete

xcn not re-development, will die!


Let's stop complaining and move on.
What problem do they have? Please have them contact us thru this forum or, better, thru slack so we can help them with their issue. Maybe they are just using an old wallet.

Man, you gotta look into carefully what's users are talking about or complaining about even though they might be wrong, but I do see some points.
legendary
Activity: 1536
Merit: 1000
electronic [r]evolution
Using the new xcn is the perfect way out
OLD XCN replaced with new xcn
As I have previously stated I am working on a new coin coded from the ground up using a highly object orientated approach with cross-platform C++11 code and no large libraries like boost, but that will be at least a few months before I even have the foundations complete, and even after it's finished it will still be considered highly experimental. A coin like Cryptonite which at least has several years of history is going to be more trustworthy than a completely new coin, now that this bug has been patched I'd say Cryptonite is quite secure. I'm sure many people are going to be trying the exploit to see if they can get around our fixes, which will help us find any other holes in the protocol. Also I don't really think the attacker managed to shift the market a whole lot so it's not the end of the world, and we don't know how much of the funds were locked by exchanges, I'm sure the attacker would have triggered some alarm bells before being able to sell off all their coins.
newbie
Activity: 31
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The wallet has been closed before the next frame, because this reason is closed

open again because the closure of the site

xcn there is the last chance to survive,If you do not solve, xcn will be used to leave China

A few months ago I was helping you to contact btc38 to solve the wallet problem,

 Goodbye, good luck。
xcn die and live,See if you can solve all the problems

Using the new xcn is the perfect way out
OLD XCN replaced with new xcn
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
xcn  wallet still has a lot of problems,Many Chinese people can not synchronize wallet, mistakes

I give cryptoid.info  btc
add xcn
But he said the block is not complete

xcn not re-development, will die!


Let's stop complaining and move on.
What problem do they have? Please have them contact us thru this forum or, better, thru slack so we can help them with their issue. Maybe they are just using an old wallet.
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
xcn  wallet still has a lot of problems,Many Chinese people can not synchronize wallet, mistakes

I give cryptoid.info  btc
add xcn
But he said the block is not complete

xcn not re-development, will die!
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
Unfortunately it looks like btc38 is going to remove XCN based on that announcement. Btc38 were the ones who first realized something was wrong because they had a suspiciously high number of XCN in their exchange wallet.

And why did they remove another 10 coins at the same time? The announcement they were referring to is not ours (xcn issues) but theirs (exchange shutdown because of chinese regulations).
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
I talked to pallas  had problems with xcn, but he did not believe it

How do you deal with these problems now?
I am always in communication with pallas and we were not aware there was any serious issue until just recently when btc38 made us aware. There were bugs with the wallet but those issues were not linked to this attack.

2 months ago I said to him
He thinks it is BTC38 problem
I calculated by the number of blocks and the output   1645179*195 =345487590

Block Count:   1645179
Block Reward≈ 210

But he does not believe, and do not check
I do not know why he does not attach importance to the problem,

I calculated that the total amount of xcn and the blocks are almost equal
btc38 found the problem is that I said


I suggest you let btc38 help solve.
Old xcn replaced by new xcn,This will allow you to solve all the problems and let xcn start again
So I can also help xcn on China overseas platform



btc38 is all right with us and xcn, they opened their wallet some days ago because I'm in contact with them and provided the new wallet.
trading is closed, along with other coins, because they are closing ALL trading, like all the other chinese exchanges.
it is not related to any xcn issue.

Unfortunately it looks like btc38 is going to remove XCN based on that announcement. Btc38 were the ones who first realized something was wrong because they had a suspiciously high number of XCN in their exchange wallet.

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I told you two months ago.
But you do not believe, do not check.


 
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
I talked to pallas  had problems with xcn, but he did not believe it

How do you deal with these problems now?
I am always in communication with pallas and we were not aware there was any serious issue until just recently when btc38 made us aware. There were bugs with the wallet but those issues were not linked to this attack.

2 months ago I said to him
He thinks it is BTC38 problem
I calculated by the number of blocks and the output   1645179*195 =345487590

Block Count:   1645179
Block Reward≈ 210

But he does not believe, and do not check
I do not know why he does not attach importance to the problem,

I calculated that the total amount of xcn and the blocks are almost equal
btc38 found the problem is that I said


I suggest you let btc38 help solve.
Old xcn replaced by new xcn,This will allow you to solve all the problems and let xcn start again
So I can also help xcn on China overseas platform



btc38 is all right with us and xcn, they opened their wallet some days ago because I'm in contact with them and provided the new wallet.
trading is closed, along with other coins, because they are closing ALL trading, like all the other chinese exchanges.
it is not related to any xcn issue.
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
I talked to pallas  had problems with xcn, but he did not believe it

How do you deal with these problems now?
I am always in communication with pallas and we were not aware there was any serious issue until just recently when btc38 made us aware. There were bugs with the wallet but those issues were not linked to this attack.

2 months ago I said to him
He thinks it is BTC38 problem
I calculated by the number of blocks and the output   1645179*195 =345487590

Block Count:   1645179
Block Reward≈ 210

But he does not believe, and do not check
I do not know why he does not attach importance to the problem,

I calculated that the total amount of xcn and the blocks are almost equal
btc38 found the problem is that I said


I suggest you let btc38 help solve.
Old xcn replaced by new xcn,This will allow you to solve all the problems and let xcn start again
So I can also help xcn on China overseas platform

newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
I have the same  but my balance is showing fine.
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
meeeh this coins is just done...if u wanna safe coin algorit, its bether to start with new coin and new hipe P.
2many problems with this coin...trust is just lost...

I don't agree. XCN has unique features and is now more stable than ever. Plus, I find that the long history of the coin (almost 4 years) is a big plus, not a deficiency.
If you like pump and dump coins, which are abandoned after a couple months, then yes, you are better with another coin.

Well it's not about a statement people are free to go or stay with; it is more about how you listen people's comments.

When it sayed this is an obvious bug, I got astonished. Obviously this coin wasn't well looked after. The suggestion I'd give is how you can show your devotion to plans of development, rather than just marketing plans (don't talk Bittrex or Poloniex anymore pls until get it). Convince people how this coin is going to make improvements, and continue to improve the stability to make sure likability of "obvious" bugs are going to be reduced by orders. High-tech is great, but reliability is the first priority on top of anything else.

I recalled few pages back people were still saying sync issue; I might be wrong that has been years and that can make people think something not right. Just get it done if not.

"this coin wasn't well looked after" - "just marketing plans"
Me and bitfreak have been working on the code for months, during our free time (I have a full time job) and with nothing in return. This coin is not developed by full time professionals. Again I think that, despite the issues, it's a very successful coin, considering how long it survived and all the new technology that it contains. Just compare it to the 90% of coins out there: they are just copy and paste from another coin with minimal differences, abandoned by the devs after few months.

"continue to improve the stability"
That's what we've been doing the last few months, after I took the coin development and bitfreak came back.

"reliability is the first priority"
Hence why we focused on stability and fixes in general, instead of adding new features.

"people were still saying sync issue"
Since the last sync fixes, I don't recall any such issue been reported.
legendary
Activity: 1536
Merit: 1000
electronic [r]evolution
Well it's not about a statement people are free to go or stay with; it is more about how you listen people's comments.

When it sayed this is an obvious bug, I got astonished. Obviously this coin wasn't well looked after. The suggestion I'd give is how you can show your devotion to plans of development, rather than just marketing plans (don't talk Bittrex or Poloniex anymore pls until get it). Convince people how this coin is going to make improvements, and continue to improve the stability to make sure likability of "obvious" bugs are going to be reduced by orders. High-tech is great, but reliability is the first priority on top of anything else.

I recalled few pages back people were still saying sync issue; I might be wrong that has been years and that can make people think something not right. Just get it done if not.
As pallas said the bug is only obvious when you know what to look for, there is a lot of code and without knowing what to look for it's very hard to pick out bugs, especially when neither of us were the original dev for Cryptonite. I developed the idea for the mini-blockchain several years ago but my C++ skills were lacking at the time so I hired a dev to create Cryptonite. The work was very rushed and he was working alone so there was bound to be some problems in the code, although I'm still quite suspicious of the original dev because it seems like he should have noticed this bug. Obviously it's embarrassing because a bug like this should not have been there in the first place. However we are lucky the attacker didn't do more damage then they did because they easily could have.
legendary
Activity: 1536
Merit: 1000
electronic [r]evolution
I talked to pallas  had problems with xcn, but he did not believe it

How do you deal with these problems now?
I am always in communication with pallas and we were not aware there was any serious issue until just recently when btc38 made us aware. There were bugs with the wallet but those issues were not linked to this attack.
full member
Activity: 334
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i will support bter because it list xcn .also i will always support xcn
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Merit: 100
I wonder if this is an opportunity to buy.  Cool

that would be great (if we had an exchange)  Cool

i hope the best to this coin and team.

Still hodling like a pro

We still have 3 exchanges: bx, nova and bter.
And bter is hong kong based, maybe will not be influenced by PBoC ban.
Bittrex or poloniex will be great, yobit can be a good start.
If @bitfreak! is back on the team, sky is the limit.

The Chinese trading pages of Bter will be surely shutdown, as it is dominated by a mainland company, there was already a public notice; whether or not the English trading pages is gonna down or they have channels to keep trading will see.

Maxcloud Inc.  Copyright © 2017  Address: British Virgin Islands   Phone : + 86 400-007-0955   Bter.com is powered by Bter Dev Team
From bter page. It is not a mainland china company.
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
I wonder if this is an opportunity to buy.  Cool

that would be great (if we had an exchange)  Cool

i hope the best to this coin and team.

Still hodling like a pro

We still have 3 exchanges: bx, nova and bter.
And bter is hong kong based, maybe will not be influenced by PBoC ban.
Bittrex or poloniex will be great, yobit can be a good start.
If @bitfreak! is back on the team, sky is the limit.

The Chinese trading pages of Bter will be surely shutdown, as it is dominated by a mainland company, there was already a public notice; whether or not the English trading pages is gonna down or they have channels to keep trading will see.
full member
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is xcn delist from btc38? i cannt find it .what's happen with xcn
full member
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I talked to pallas  had problems with xcn, but he did not believe it

How do you deal with these problems now?


This is ironic.
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
meeeh this coins is just done...if u wanna safe coin algorit, its bether to start with new coin and new hipe P.
2many problems with this coin...trust is just lost...

I don't agree. XCN has unique features and is now more stable than ever. Plus, I find that the long history of the coin (almost 4 years) is a big plus, not a deficiency.
If you like pump and dump coins, which are abandoned after a couple months, then yes, you are better with another coin.

Well it's not about a statement people are free to go or stay with; it is more about how you listen people's comments.

When it sayed this is an obvious bug, I got astonished. Obviously this coin wasn't well looked after. The suggestion I'd give is how you can show your devotion to plans of development, rather than just marketing plans (don't talk Bittrex or Poloniex anymore pls until get it). Convince people how this coin is going to make improvements, and continue to improve the stability to make sure likability of "obvious" bugs are going to be reduced by orders. High-tech is great, but reliability is the first priority on top of anything else.

I recalled few pages back people were still saying sync issue; I might be wrong that has been years and that can make people think something not right. Just get it done if not.
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
Ok guys now the main pool and many exchanges have updated to the new version I feel it's safe to release more information about exactly what happened.

Unfortunately it looks like btc38 is going to remove XCN based on that announcement. Btc38 were the ones who first realized something was wrong because they had a suspiciously high number of XCN in their exchange wallet. They notified us there was something wrong a few days ago and I coded up a blockchain analyzer to look for anything suspicious. I discovered that an attacker found a way to create transactions with outputs larger than the inputs, allowing the attacker to essentially create free coins. The first example of the attack can be seen in this block: http://xcn-explorer.selektion21.de/?b=1007085

They were able to generate a negative fee value because of an integer overflow bug, making it possible to have outputs larger than the input value. Obviously there were checks for integer overflows in place but some integers which should have been unsigned were left signed in the worst place possible, either intentionally or by simple mistake, by the original dev. It looks like the attacker spent most of the smaller outputs and left the massive outputs alone, the latest version should block those massive balances but I calculated they were able to get away with around 260 million XCN from the smaller outputs.

We gave btc38 and other exchanges a list of the addresses used by the attacker so they may have been able to freeze some of the attackers funds, based on my analysis it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of transactions stemming off from the bad transactions. I also want to make it clear this bug has nothing to do with the mini-blockchain technology, the bug in the code was pretty obvious and quite easy to fix just by making some signed integers unsigned. Look at the latest changes on pallas's github to see exactly what we did to prevent this happening again.

In a few days I will release the source code for an XCN blockchain analyzer that I made to find the issue, it should also be useful for building an explorer that works efficiently. I will also release the javascript code I wrote some time ago for creating raw transactions and signing them, which I used to make sure our fix worked and should also be useful for creating a web wallet. Hopefully we can move past this even without too much issue, I was hoping our quick fix would be enough for btc38 not to drop XCN but I cannot blame them for being spooked by this, especially with the new laws in China.

The following is a list of blocks where the exploit was detected:

1007085, 1009490, 1035837, 1044220, 1052967, 1073572, 1103770, 1119219, 1139944, 1171685, 1188258, 1232798, 1246249, 1255968, 1271558, 1274983, 1278864, 1279894, 1281781, 1284716, 1286093, 1288597, 1290084, 1291824, 1294633, 1297819, 1298379, 1300671, 1302547, 1320111, 1320830, 1322596, 1323220, 1350726, 1360510, 1363161, 1364581, 1366301, 1366351, 1367675, 1369704, 1371786, 1373205, 1375144, 1377644

I talked to pallas  had problems with xcn, but he did not believe it

How do you deal with these problems now?
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