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Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 66. (Read 1276786 times)

tyz
legendary
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Could someone explain me what GUERILLA is? I've just checked my counterwallet and saw that someone sent me 10 GUERILLA.
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I'm considering to buy some XRP. On my research I read that Counterparty will be used by a broker and financial companies. Is this true and if so, why is the price so low then?
hero member
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Counterpartying
In financial stuff, it's often not about being first, but doing it right the first time. I think we've got a while to wait on the ETM, but that's fine. Happy Counterparty is playing the long game. If you're worried about the price or project, sell now, cause it's going to go lower before it goes up.

I see now you are giving financial advice.  You seem so certain about these things, perhaps you have information which I and others do not have.  

I guess like last time with that Ethereum announcement Pump and Dump that the Counterparty team orchestrated before going off to start Symbiont.io, some people had access to privileged information while others didn't.

That's why btw it is good to do everything in an open, and transparent process especially when there is money involved.

It's natural for you to think this way because it's how you operate, but in this case none of your ideas are rational and they aren't based in reality. Additionally, you helped run Mastercoin into the ground and were a Paycoin fan. Certainly I won't be looking for you to make accurate calls for me and the projects I follow. You're generally wrong.

Some choice Paycoin quotes from you...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47976075/ShareX/2015-10/2015-10-28_15-48-41.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47976075/ShareX/2015-10/2015-10-28_15-49-09.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47976075/ShareX/2015-10/2015-10-28_15-49-56.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47976075/ShareX/2015-10/2015-10-28_15-50-27.png

i also said that if he lied he's going to prison, and i think i am correct on that and that his father in law has enough money to sue and get any money lost back through civil action ... i guess you did pay attention to that also but don't want to post it?

btw i didn't run MSC into the ground, i was doing communications and PR for them, not managing the engineering and development.  had i been doing that they would have actually hired Robby and XCP would have never happened jajaja.

so go ahead keep on running around and insulting people.  

btw I cannot believe you actually keep image files of some random text I may have wrote a year ago; i'm not even sure if its me it's just a screen shot with my name or I may have been drunk sitting basking in the sun at my house in Florida. Can't be right 100% of the time.

Apparently your ego is so big you think that you are right 100% of the time... let me know how that works out for you. 

But you behaviour of saving chats is a bit stalkerish and freaky to me, so on second thought please don't let me know.

Speaking of insults and accusations...
sr. member
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Of course those screenshots are you, there are many witnesses. And being objective is not trying to badmouth Ethereum. It's just they already started from scratch once resulting in a huge deal of extra work. The new platform needs to be reliable to prevent compatilbility issues. Once it's stable it will be implemented. That's all.
legendary
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he who has the gold makes the rules
so explain why it didn't?

this ought to be a very nice mental exercise for you.

still waiting for you to do this mental exercise.

I know it's challenging but being able to flip positions and understand adversarial positions improves the flexibility of one's mind, keeps the brain stems growing, and also makes one have more understanding.

Instead of just shit bagging on Ethereum...
legendary
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he who has the gold makes the rules
Therefore please consider that only very recently, Ethereum has already had some grievous security exploits and glitches.

So you are saying that XCP never had these when they launched?   Because if you recall correctly they did.

All software has security exploits. Maybe there are even security exploits in the XCP software as I type this that are not publicly known.

Like I said it is a red herring.
legendary
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he who has the gold makes the rules
In financial stuff, it's often not about being first, but doing it right the first time. I think we've got a while to wait on the ETM, but that's fine. Happy Counterparty is playing the long game. If you're worried about the price or project, sell now, cause it's going to go lower before it goes up.

I see now you are giving financial advice.  You seem so certain about these things, perhaps you have information which I and others do not have.  

I guess like last time with that Ethereum announcement Pump and Dump that the Counterparty team orchestrated before going off to start Symbiont.io, some people had access to privileged information while others didn't.

That's why btw it is good to do everything in an open, and transparent process especially when there is money involved.

It's natural for you to think this way because it's how you operate, but in this case none of your ideas are rational and they aren't based in reality. Additionally, you helped run Mastercoin into the ground and were a Paycoin fan. Certainly I won't be looking for you to make accurate calls for me and the projects I follow. You're generally wrong.

Some choice Paycoin quotes from you...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47976075/ShareX/2015-10/2015-10-28_15-48-41.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47976075/ShareX/2015-10/2015-10-28_15-49-09.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47976075/ShareX/2015-10/2015-10-28_15-49-56.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47976075/ShareX/2015-10/2015-10-28_15-50-27.png

i also said that if he lied he's going to prison, and i think i am correct on that and that his father in law has enough money to sue and get any money lost back through civil action ... i guess you did pay attention to that also but don't want to post it?

btw i didn't run MSC into the ground, i was doing communications and PR for them, not managing the engineering and development.  had i been doing that they would have actually hired Robby and XCP would have never happened jajaja.

so go ahead keep on running around and insulting people.  

btw I cannot believe you actually keep image files of some random text I may have wrote a year ago; i'm not even sure if its me it's just a screen shot with my name or I may have been drunk sitting basking in the sun at my house in Florida. Can't be right 100% of the time.

Apparently your ego is so big you think that you are right 100% of the time... let me know how that works out for you. 

But you behaviour of saving chats is a bit stalkerish and freaky to me, so on second thought please don't let me know.
sr. member
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It's really a simple question, 100% now with a huge risk to go to 0 through exploits and instability or 1000%+ later with a system that is secure enough for worldwide trillion dollar markets. I'll wait.
hero member
Activity: 647
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Counterpartying
In financial stuff, it's often not about being first, but doing it right the first time. I think we've got a while to wait on the ETM, but that's fine. Happy Counterparty is playing the long game. If you're worried about the price or project, sell now, cause it's going to go lower before it goes up.

I see now you are giving financial advice.  You seem so certain about these things, perhaps you have information which I and others do not have.  

I guess like last time with that Ethereum announcement Pump and Dump that the Counterparty team orchestrated before going off to start Symbiont.io, some people had access to privileged information while others didn't.

That's why btw it is good to do everything in an open, and transparent process especially when there is money involved.

It's natural for you to think this way because it's how you operate, but in this case none of your ideas are rational and they aren't based in reality. Additionally, you helped run Mastercoin into the ground and were a Paycoin fan. Certainly I won't be looking for you to make accurate calls for me and the projects I follow. You're generally wrong.

Some choice Paycoin quotes from you...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47976075/ShareX/2015-10/2015-10-28_15-48-41.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47976075/ShareX/2015-10/2015-10-28_15-49-09.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47976075/ShareX/2015-10/2015-10-28_15-49-56.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47976075/ShareX/2015-10/2015-10-28_15-50-27.png
full member
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Counterparty General Manager
Counterparty Community Update, Oct 31: Announcing the Official Slack Channel & CIP http://counterparty.io/news/counterparty-community-update-oct-31/
sr. member
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I think the scrutiny and hashrate required for serious financial transactions is lost on you. And that's ok. I personally prefer my coins to be safe over a quick high and the dramatic novelty of a premature release. Therefore please consider that only very recently, Ethereum has already had some grievous security exploits and glitches. The fact that they began with a new brand engine midway isn't within Counterparty's domain of responsibility either.

Development is progressing as usual with a focus on core stability, performance and security. These are pre-requisites for building a production-ready platform, and are instrumental to implementing something as complex as a smart contracts engine in the future. Official statements from the devs corroborate this, and screaming - "But I want it now!" - is neither constructive nor valid critique.
legendary
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he who has the gold makes the rules
here is a list of about 1200 smart contracts on the Ethereum network

https://etherchain.org/contracts/1200
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1010
he who has the gold makes the rules
In financial stuff, it's often not about being first, but doing it right the first time. I think we've got a while to wait on the ETM, but that's fine. Happy Counterparty is playing the long game. If you're worried about the price or project, sell now, cause it's going to go lower before it goes up.

I see now you are giving financial advice.  You seem so certain about these things, perhaps you have information which I and others do not have.  

I guess like last time with that Ethereum announcement Pump and Dump that the Counterparty team orchestrated before going off to start Symbiont.io, some people had access to privileged information while others didn't.

That's why btw it is good to do everything in an open, and transparent process especially when there is money involved.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1010
he who has the gold makes the rules
so explain why it didn't?

this ought to be a very nice mental exercise for you.
hero member
Activity: 647
Merit: 510
Counterpartying
Fact is, the ethereum virtual machine needs to be more stable and security audited before it can be safetly ported into Counterparty without jeopardizing user funds.

wait so Augur just did a huge fund raiser using Ethereum, and you all are worried about a few piddly coins worth in total barely that one fundraiser ...   Roll Eyes

the daily trading on XCP, SJCX, and GEMS are barely scraping the total trading on ETH.

btw here's a fish for you



Is raising Eth for a crowdfund the same thing as using smart contracts on the Ethereum Virtual Machine? Seems to me the corwdfund you're mentioning could have also been done on Counterparty just like other croudfunds have in the recent past.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1010
he who has the gold makes the rules
Fact is, the ethereum virtual machine needs to be more stable and security audited before it can be safetly ported into Counterparty without jeopardizing user funds.

wait so Augur just did a huge fund raiser using Ethereum, and you all are worried about a few piddly coins worth in total barely that one fundraiser ...   Roll Eyes

the daily trading on XCP, SJCX, and GEMS are barely scraping the total trading on ETH.

btw here's a fish for you

hero member
Activity: 647
Merit: 510
Counterpartying
In financial stuff, it's often not about being first, but doing it right the first time. I think we've got a while to wait on the ETM, but that's fine. Happy Counterparty is playing the long game. If you're worried about the price or project, sell now, cause it's going to go lower before it goes up.
sr. member
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Fact is, the ethereum virtual machine needs to be more stable and security audited before it can be safetly ported into Counterparty without jeopardizing user funds.
legendary
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Merit: 1010
he who has the gold makes the rules

But why are we talking about BTC here?  Did I ever say BTC is going down?  Perhaps re-read what I wrote. BTW BTC is not stable it's up 100% in just a month or two.  Not sure what your definition of stable is but that doesn't seem so stable to me.

Network effect takes years to develop.  Just go on meetup.com and see how many Ethereum meet up there are, sure not as many as BTC, but way higher then say CounterParty - wonder why that is?  Maybe because... wait here it is...

You misunderstood both "stability" and "network effect'. Network effect doesn't mean how many people are drinking coffee together, it means the hash rate and network that secures the chain. And stability refers to code stability, not price. Whether it costs $1000 or $1,000,000 a day to compromise a system, is a big difference. Whether there are 12 dimensions of exploits on a novel system vs. 1-2 in a viciously tested one (over half a decade) is also a large difference.

It is more than clear that your only intent is profit, but I believe that to be a bit short sighted. There are absolutely plans to implement the EVM once it is stable enough for production. Quitting on that would be PR suicide for literally everyone involved in the project.

But don't be fooled that price has anything to do with merit or long-term viability, people made that mistake with Paycoin and Bitshares before and look how that turned out.

Also, the XCP devs have not 'dropped their work'. There are commits every day and Symbiont is funding development. I'm betting they have enough on a private repo to surprise you.

ok if you choose to assign non-standard meanings to words you should inform readers of that. generally "network effect" is number of nodes in a system.  system being any complex.

so regarding code stability, code becomes more "stable" (using your definition, but I think you actually want to use the words resilient and secure) not by age but by having more eyes on it and fingers poking at it.  if there is a private repo, that means there are not many eyes and fingers involved.  it reminds me of the way we used to do product and software development decades ago when months would be spent without getting market feedback or involvement ("if you build it they will come" mentality).

thus while ethereum itself may be younger temporally its' experience variable has such momentum which with the right trajectory will propel it to a velocity that allows it to escape the gravitational pull of obscurity.

these things are platforms, platform marketing is no piece of cake.

also it behooves no one to attack a project from which code is being taken. 

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I'm betting they have enough on a private repo to surprise you.

I hope this surprises coming public then when BTC rally have really start if not yet. What is better than now lot of Ethereum hype, BTC rally starting finally and then Ethereum vm news in every news sites Smiley

Btw what that ripple porting news was earlier this year? April joke, day was same  Grin?
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