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Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 70. (Read 1276789 times)
October 14, 2015, 10:54:58 AM
October 13, 2015, 05:04:19 PM
Actually it is only good if devs are busy with Symbiont and that help someway Counterparty. If there need wait Ethereum anyway...
Today we have go to new bottom with price, all buy support is gone.
Today we have go to new bottom with price, all buy support is gone.
October 12, 2015, 08:28:21 AM
Okay, thanks! So NXT for instance is still superior to Colu if I got you right. Does not seem to be a big competitor for counterparty at all.
Read the first time of Colu. Does it use the Bitcoin blockchain, too, or does it have its own blockchain?
Wondering if there is a big company behind the firm since there is Deloitte listed on the website.
According to their introduction, it's based on colored coin. Yes, it is based on Bitcoin blockchain. However, colored coin based solution only supports issuing, transferring, and verification. Itself does not support decentralized exchange (DEX), so it still needs a centralized exchange to help match sell/buy orders.Wondering if there is a big company behind the firm since there is Deloitte listed on the website.
Has anyone heard that Swarm switched from Counterparty to Colu?
October 12, 2015, 07:36:02 AM
Read the first time of Colu. Does it use the Bitcoin blockchain, too, or does it have its own blockchain?
Wondering if there is a big company behind the firm since there is Deloitte listed on the website.
According to their introduction, it's based on colored coin. Yes, it is based on Bitcoin blockchain. However, colored coin based solution only supports issuing, transferring, and verification. Itself does not support decentralized exchange (DEX), so it still needs a centralized exchange to help match sell/buy orders. Wondering if there is a big company behind the firm since there is Deloitte listed on the website.
Has anyone heard that Swarm switched from Counterparty to Colu?
October 12, 2015, 04:53:07 AM
Read the first time of Colu. Does it use the Bitcoin blockchain, too, or does it have its own blockchain?
Wondering if there is a big company behind the firm since there is Deloitte listed on the website.
Wondering if there is a big company behind the firm since there is Deloitte listed on the website.
Has anyone heard that Swarm switched from Counterparty to Colu?
October 11, 2015, 06:45:12 PM
BitThink, I for one appreciate your comments and analysis which I see as fair and objective.
Thank you so much, bitcoinrocks. October 11, 2015, 03:57:04 PM
Looks like we really need some good news 
As far I understand devs still support XCP protocol but are full day busy with Symbiont what not really give any value for XCP, right?
There is few project what have sell their shares/cards/what ever through counterparty but there is not really anything what use XCP in any other way than possibility to trade assets/shares?
Everything what happen around XCP, new wallets example mobile btw looking nice, but not have tested are running by community but there are not really anything else than wallets now?
Then if smart contracts are coming to Counterparty that are using XCP for gas or there are not really any fact about this?
Thanks if someone can give some comment about this questions.
I will try my best to give my answers of your questions. Matt later may give you his. Hope more answers will be better than only one.As far I understand devs still support XCP protocol but are full day busy with Symbiont what not really give any value for XCP, right?
There is few project what have sell their shares/cards/what ever through counterparty but there is not really anything what use XCP in any other way than possibility to trade assets/shares?
Everything what happen around XCP, new wallets example mobile btw looking nice, but not have tested are running by community but there are not really anything else than wallets now?
Then if smart contracts are coming to Counterparty that are using XCP for gas or there are not really any fact about this?
Thanks if someone can give some comment about this questions.
1) yes Symbiont still supports counterparty, but in my opinion mostly on the low level library, cause it is also used by their private ledgers. This explains why they spent months to refactorized it to be more modulized. Now they don't have enough energy and time to spend on the application level, let alone marketing.
2) you can check the assets tab of coinmarketcp to see the assets from various platforms. A few of them are on counterparty but none of them are really popular enough. Most of them were built long ago. Wish there could be more.
3) last year, a desktop version wallet was promised by the devs, but later it was postponed and seems no progress anymore, or I missed the release.
4) smart contracts are in testnet long ago, but now is waiting for Etherium to be mature and thoroughly tested. So no schedule to be on mainnet at all. As we know, etherium has faced their own problems now.
I have tried my best to be as objective as I can. Please correct me if I made any mistake.
Thanks, this answer is about what I have think about Counterparty situation atm. I think biggest question is now that can Counterparty deliver smart contracts before than other platforms... But what I have read about all others are in same "standby"-mode and any project not really go forward fast now, but I don't know are there building any bigger projects yet for any platforms or everyone are waiting what platform will be best.
October 11, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
BitThink, I for one appreciate your comments and analysis which I see as fair and objective.
October 11, 2015, 06:04:46 AM
Looks like we really need some good news
As far I understand devs still support XCP protocol but are full day busy with Symbiont what not really give any value for XCP, right?
There is few project what have sell their shares/cards/what ever through counterparty but there is not really anything what use XCP in any other way than possibility to trade assets/shares?
Everything what happen around XCP, new wallets example mobile btw looking nice, but not have tested are running by community but there are not really anything else than wallets now?
Then if smart contracts are coming to Counterparty that are using XCP for gas or there are not really any fact about this?
Thanks if someone can give some comment about this questions.
I will try my best to give my answers of your questions. Matt later may give you his. Hope more answers will be better than only one.As far I understand devs still support XCP protocol but are full day busy with Symbiont what not really give any value for XCP, right?
There is few project what have sell their shares/cards/what ever through counterparty but there is not really anything what use XCP in any other way than possibility to trade assets/shares?
Everything what happen around XCP, new wallets example mobile btw looking nice, but not have tested are running by community but there are not really anything else than wallets now?
Then if smart contracts are coming to Counterparty that are using XCP for gas or there are not really any fact about this?
Thanks if someone can give some comment about this questions.
1) yes Symbiont still supports counterparty, but in my opinion mostly on the low level library, cause it is also used by their private ledgers. This explains why they spent months to refactorized it to be more modulized. Now they don't have enough energy and time to spend on the application level, let alone marketing.
2) you can check the assets tab of coinmarketcp to see the assets from various platforms. A few of them are on counterparty but none of them are really popular enough. Most of them were built long ago. Wish there could be more.
3) last year, a desktop version wallet was promised by the devs, but later it was postponed and seems no progress anymore, or I missed the release.
4) smart contracts are in testnet long ago, but now is waiting for Etherium to be mature and thoroughly tested. So no schedule to be on mainnet at all. As we know, etherium has faced their own problems now.
I have tried my best to be as objective as I can. Please correct me if I made any mistake.
October 11, 2015, 02:52:48 AM
Looks like we really need some good news
As far I understand devs still support XCP protocol but are full day busy with Symbiont what not really give any value for XCP, right?
There is few project what have sell their shares/cards/what ever through counterparty but there is not really anything what use XCP in any other way than possibility to trade assets/shares?
Everything what happen around XCP, new wallets example mobile btw looking nice, but not have tested are running by community but there are not really anything else than wallets now?
Then if smart contracts are coming to Counterparty that are using XCP for gas or there are not really any fact about this?
Thanks if someone can give some comment about this questions.
As far I understand devs still support XCP protocol but are full day busy with Symbiont what not really give any value for XCP, right?
There is few project what have sell their shares/cards/what ever through counterparty but there is not really anything what use XCP in any other way than possibility to trade assets/shares?
Everything what happen around XCP, new wallets example mobile btw looking nice, but not have tested are running by community but there are not really anything else than wallets now?
Then if smart contracts are coming to Counterparty that are using XCP for gas or there are not really any fact about this?
Thanks if someone can give some comment about this questions.
October 11, 2015, 02:29:36 AM
Troll confirmed. Have a good one.
You can disagree with me and I am not trying to persuade you anyway. But calling others troll in my opinion is not so polite. Hey guys, look, here is the only person on Bitcointalk that wants to make sure buyers are informed if they buy his coins off an exchange... He's so nice he's willing to disparage the project as he tries to liquidate his position in order to make sure all's fair for the strangers that may be on the same exchange he is.
Yeah, seems likely.
As for " may be on the same exchange". There's only one de facto exchange for XCP, poloniex, which counts more than 85% percent of daily volume, and the daily volume is 1 or 2 BTC most of time. Matt, I believe you are a true holder, since you seems not familiar with these facts at all.
Finally I am not "so nice". I've got enough profit from XCP, and when my asks there could be sold does not matter so much already. Moreover, even I warn here now, I don't think my word will change anything. There most likely will be another pump and eat up my litter ask orders there.
October 11, 2015, 02:15:49 AM
Troll confirmed. Have a good one.
You can disagree with me and I am not trying to persuade you anyway. But calling others troll in my opinion is not so polite. Hey guys, look, here is the only person on Bitcointalk that wants to make sure buyers are informed if they buy his coins off an exchange... He's so nice he's willing to disparage the project as he tries to liquidate his position in order to make sure all's fair for the strangers that may be on the same exchange he is.
Yeah, seems likely.
I bought friedcat stock at more than 2 BTC, and most people shout there below 2.5 was always bargain, but still someone warned that the profit of mining could not be sustentable. I was grateful to those guys later although I was not wise enough to follow their warning then.
For XCP, think about those bought around 0.02 after the claim ETH had been ported to Counterparty. They thought overstock would support XCP. Then when Symbiont got invested, another pump to around 0.009. I sold part of my holdings in both pumps, cause I follow the method to sell 10% after every doubling of price. I did not realized that was just ugly pump and dump. Now the situation here become More clear and I kind of feel the pain of who bought at the peak of pumping. That's the reason I decide to leave but meanwhile try to be the guy who warn the new comers, just like those guys I feel grateful in friedcat thread.
Sorry if I offend true believers here. Still wish the project the best. Anyway that's good to me too since I still keep some as the memorium.
October 10, 2015, 10:54:32 PM
Troll confirmed. Have a good one.
You can disagree with me and I am not trying to persuade you anyway. But calling others troll in my opinion is not so polite. Hey guys, look, here is the only person on Bitcointalk that wants to make sure buyers are informed if they buy his coins off an exchange... He's so nice he's willing to disparage the project as he tries to liquidate his position in order to make sure all's fair for the strangers that may be on the same exchange he is.
Yeah, seems likely.
October 10, 2015, 10:21:39 PM
Troll confirmed. Have a good one.
You can disagree with me and I am not trying to persuade you anyway. But calling others troll in my opinion is not so polite. October 10, 2015, 09:56:28 PM
Troll confirmed. Have a good one.
October 10, 2015, 09:54:34 PM
I am not criticizing the devs. They have their rights to do more profitable things and they are also under the pressure of their angel investors now. I am just expressing my own frustration and warn others that Symboint investors spend money not for counterparty but only for private ledgers for banks.
So what? They said their software can be connected to Counterparty and is all part of the tech stack. Private ledgers are great for making money, and many vastly successful Linux distributions use exactly the same business model. You are warning others that Symbiont isn't spending money on Counterparty... but all their activity and statements suggest that they are. Where's your evidence?
Also, smart contracts are waiting on Ethereum to have a stable release, then they will be ported. Stability and performance updates are happening regularly (see last week for example). This 'delay' has nothing to do with XCP devs. It's a strategic decision. And you realize that all of the core devs of Counterparty are still working on it?
And XCP is open source, so anyone is free to contribute code. You don't need to wait for investors or devs.
Yes. You can make a fork, and if people prefer to use that one, then it will be the main fork regardless of the devs. But if you manage to implement that, it makes sense that the devs will simply add your code to the official repo.
But keep in mind that the limitation on smart contracts is waiting for Ethereum to finish them, so that there aren't any consensus issues later. This is all extremely security critical code, which makes it even more challenging. Counterparty regularly has formal security audits, bug bounties, and a high standard for security. If you can ensure that you retain consensus with Ethereum, and create production ready code which stands up to the security parameters, then I'm sure the dev team will consider it. You can have smart contracts in the next 24 hours, if you happen to be some form of rainman savant.
No need to argue anymore. No one really knows what happened except themselves. If they really care about the future of counterparty, they should hand over the control to someone have enough time and energy and become sponsor instead of a part time core dev.
Lol. You're missing one of his points, which is that they still work on it.... more than anyone. But yeah, go find someone that wants to donate their time and work on Counterparty for free and I'm sure they'll be recognized for their efforts.
Considering someone could buy 0.5% of the total currency for less than 15k, it would not take much for a person to buy enough XCP for the success of the project to matter to them. They can also work on it for both fun and recognition as well. I'm not sure if you're trolling with your posts or if you really believe this stuff at this point.
October 10, 2015, 09:19:54 PM
I am not criticizing the devs. They have their rights to do more profitable things and they are also under the pressure of their angel investors now. I am just expressing my own frustration and warn others that Symboint investors spend money not for counterparty but only for private ledgers for banks.
So what? They said their software can be connected to Counterparty and is all part of the tech stack. Private ledgers are great for making money, and many vastly successful Linux distributions use exactly the same business model. You are warning others that Symbiont isn't spending money on Counterparty... but all their activity and statements suggest that they are. Where's your evidence?
Also, smart contracts are waiting on Ethereum to have a stable release, then they will be ported. Stability and performance updates are happening regularly (see last week for example). This 'delay' has nothing to do with XCP devs. It's a strategic decision. And you realize that all of the core devs of Counterparty are still working on it?
And XCP is open source, so anyone is free to contribute code. You don't need to wait for investors or devs.
Yes. You can make a fork, and if people prefer to use that one, then it will be the main fork regardless of the devs. But if you manage to implement that, it makes sense that the devs will simply add your code to the official repo.
But keep in mind that the limitation on smart contracts is waiting for Ethereum to finish them, so that there aren't any consensus issues later. This is all extremely security critical code, which makes it even more challenging. Counterparty regularly has formal security audits, bug bounties, and a high standard for security. If you can ensure that you retain consensus with Ethereum, and create production ready code which stands up to the security parameters, then I'm sure the dev team will consider it. You can have smart contracts in the next 24 hours, if you happen to be some form of rainman savant.
No need to argue anymore. No one really knows what happened except themselves. If they really care about the future of counterparty, they should hand over the control to someone have enough time and energy and become sponsor instead of a part time core dev.
Lol. You're missing one of his points, which is that they still work on it.... more than anyone. But yeah, go find someone that wants to donate their time and work on Counterparty for free and I'm sure they'll be recognized for their efforts.
Considering someone could buy 0.5% of the total currency for less than 15k, it would not take much for a person to buy enough XCP for the success of the project to matter to them. They can also work on it for both fun and recognition as well. I'm not sure if you're trolling with your posts or if you really believe this stuff at this point.
October 10, 2015, 08:59:56 PM
I am not criticizing the devs. They have their rights to do more profitable things and they are also under the pressure of their angel investors now. I am just expressing my own frustration and warn others that Symboint investors spend money not for counterparty but only for private ledgers for banks.
So what? They said their software can be connected to Counterparty and is all part of the tech stack. Private ledgers are great for making money, and many vastly successful Linux distributions use exactly the same business model. You are warning others that Symbiont isn't spending money on Counterparty... but all their activity and statements suggest that they are. Where's your evidence?
Also, smart contracts are waiting on Ethereum to have a stable release, then they will be ported. Stability and performance updates are happening regularly (see last week for example). This 'delay' has nothing to do with XCP devs. It's a strategic decision. And you realize that all of the core devs of Counterparty are still working on it?
And XCP is open source, so anyone is free to contribute code. You don't need to wait for investors or devs.
Yes. You can make a fork, and if people prefer to use that one, then it will be the main fork regardless of the devs. But if you manage to implement that, it makes sense that the devs will simply add your code to the official repo.
But keep in mind that the limitation on smart contracts is waiting for Ethereum to finish them, so that there aren't any consensus issues later. This is all extremely security critical code, which makes it even more challenging. Counterparty regularly has formal security audits, bug bounties, and a high standard for security. If you can ensure that you retain consensus with Ethereum, and create production ready code which stands up to the security parameters, then I'm sure the dev team will consider it. You can have smart contracts in the next 24 hours, if you happen to be some form of rainman savant.
No need to argue anymore. No one really knows what happened except themselves. If they really care about the future of counterparty, they should hand over the control to someone have enough time and energy and become sponsor instead of a part time core dev.
Lol. You're missing one of his points, which is that they still work on it.... more than anyone. But yeah, go find someone that wants to donate their time and work on Counterparty for free and I'm sure they'll be recognized for their efforts.
October 10, 2015, 07:28:57 PM
I am not criticizing the devs. They have their rights to do more profitable things and they are also under the pressure of their angel investors now. I am just expressing my own frustration and warn others that Symboint investors spend money not for counterparty but only for private ledgers for banks.
So what? They said their software can be connected to Counterparty and is all part of the tech stack. Private ledgers are great for making money, and many vastly successful Linux distributions use exactly the same business model. You are warning others that Symbiont isn't spending money on Counterparty... but all their activity and statements suggest that they are. Where's your evidence?
Also, smart contracts are waiting on Ethereum to have a stable release, then they will be ported. Stability and performance updates are happening regularly (see last week for example). This 'delay' has nothing to do with XCP devs. It's a strategic decision. And you realize that all of the core devs of Counterparty are still working on it?
And XCP is open source, so anyone is free to contribute code. You don't need to wait for investors or devs.
Yes. You can make a fork, and if people prefer to use that one, then it will be the main fork regardless of the devs. But if you manage to implement that, it makes sense that the devs will simply add your code to the official repo.
But keep in mind that the limitation on smart contracts is waiting for Ethereum to finish them, so that there aren't any consensus issues later. This is all extremely security critical code, which makes it even more challenging. Counterparty regularly has formal security audits, bug bounties, and a high standard for security. If you can ensure that you retain consensus with Ethereum, and create production ready code which stands up to the security parameters, then I'm sure the dev team will consider it. You can have smart contracts in the next 24 hours, if you happen to be some form of rainman savant.
No need to argue anymore. No one really knows what happened except themselves. If they really care about the future of counterparty, they should hand over the control to someone have enough time and energy and become sponsor instead of a part time core dev.
Lol. You're missing one of his points, which is that they still work on it.... more than anyone. But yeah, go find someone that wants to donate their time and work on Counterparty for free and I'm sure they'll be recognized for their efforts.
October 10, 2015, 07:15:50 PM
I am not criticizing the devs. They have their rights to do more profitable things and they are also under the pressure of their angel investors now. I am just expressing my own frustration and warn others that Symboint investors spend money not for counterparty but only for private ledgers for banks.
So what? They said their software can be connected to Counterparty and is all part of the tech stack. Private ledgers are great for making money, and many vastly successful Linux distributions use exactly the same business model. You are warning others that Symbiont isn't spending money on Counterparty... but all their activity and statements suggest that they are. Where's your evidence?
Also, smart contracts are waiting on Ethereum to have a stable release, then they will be ported. Stability and performance updates are happening regularly (see last week for example). This 'delay' has nothing to do with XCP devs. It's a strategic decision. And you realize that all of the core devs of Counterparty are still working on it?
And XCP is open source, so anyone is free to contribute code. You don't need to wait for investors or devs.
Yes. You can make a fork, and if people prefer to use that one, then it will be the main fork regardless of the devs. But if you manage to implement that, it makes sense that the devs will simply add your code to the official repo.
But keep in mind that the limitation on smart contracts is waiting for Ethereum to finish them, so that there aren't any consensus issues later. This is all extremely security critical code, which makes it even more challenging. Counterparty regularly has formal security audits, bug bounties, and a high standard for security. If you can ensure that you retain consensus with Ethereum, and create production ready code which stands up to the security parameters, then I'm sure the dev team will consider it. You can have smart contracts in the next 24 hours, if you happen to be some form of rainman savant.
No need to argue anymore. No one really knows what happened except themselves. My personal opinion is that If they really care about the future of counterparty, they'd better hand over the control to someone having enough time and energy and then become a sponsor instead of a part time core dev.
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