Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 67. (Read 1276786 times)

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You misunderstood both "stability" and "network effect'. Network effect doesn't mean how many people are drinking coffee together, it means the hash rate and network that secures the chain. And stability refers to code stability, not price. Whether it costs $1000 or $1,000,000 a day to compromise a system, is a big difference. Whether there are 12 dimensions of exploits on a novel system vs. 1-2 in a viciously tested one (over half a decade) is also a large difference.

It is more than clear that your only intent is profit, but I believe that to be a bit short sighted. There are absolutely plans to implement the EVM once it is stable enough for production. Quitting on that would be PR suicide for literally everyone involved in the project.

But don't be fooled that price has anything to do with merit or long-term viability, people made that mistake with Paycoin and Bitshares before and look how that turned out.

Also, the XCP devs have not 'dropped their work'. There are commits every day and Symbiont is funding development. I'm betting they have enough on a private repo to surprise you.

btw some people may not know this

but both Adam Krellenstein and Vitalik Buterin considered working for Mastercoin.  Robby also made proposal to Mastercoin (i interviewed him and recommended they consider to pay him) to rewrite some of the code but the Mastercoin people were too greedy when BTC price was hitting $1000+ (I still laugh at this everyday).

Adam was CTO for about 1 day I believe.

I don't recall Vitalik's reasons (probably too much of a mess and JR/Ron open minded enough  to new solutions), but he didn't join MSC formally, did help out a bit in the beginning, and started to think about what became Ethereum.

Adam also had the opportunity to do the same as Vitalik but he went down an easier path to just re-create mastercoin but do it fast and right because he just had to learn from the mistakes made by the MSC developers.

The developers doing the MSC bounties can blame it not succeeding on the poor management and lack of specification, and just plain greed ... some of them went on to join Ethereum and did some phenomenal work.

Then of course Adam thought of taking the Ethereum work, which was done by VB and some former MSC dev's and adopt it to XCP, which makes sense actually since all of this comes from the same root idea.

So when you shit on Ethereum, realize that you are actually picking up that shit with your hands and smashing it right into your own face.  Because one day someone will port over Ethereum onto BTC and other BTC clones, and they you will be crying that Ethereum is the best thing since sliced bread.  Which why I say that any metacoin that does not get with the drill and adopt EVM might as well be considered a deadcoin. 

All these projects and people are very inter-related and all come out of the same source but the EVM is the dominant design of the idea that initially was funded as Mastercoin and XCP as it's better implemented offshoot.

Yes... I've actually used it.  You should try it yourself.

But why are we talking about BTC here?  Did I ever say BTC is going down?  Perhaps re-read what I wrote. BTW BTC is not stable it's up 100% in just a month or two.  Not sure what your definition of stable is but that doesn't seem so stable to me.

Network effect takes years to develop.  Just go on meetup.com and see how many Ethereum meet up there are, sure not as many as BTC, but way higher then say CounterParty - wonder why that is?  Maybe because... wait here it is...

.. a massive Pump and Dump of XCP last year by claiming to be porting over the Ethereum VM only to drop any work on that and start a company called Symbiont. 

to me that explains why ethereum has done so well and well xcp doesn't have much to show for itself the last 12 months.

You believe that? 


Unlike BTC, Ethereum lacks what matters most for a currency, security, stability and network effect.

because XCP and other meta coin protocols are practically worthless now that Ethereum is out and in production, so either the founders of this project live up to their promises or this coin (and many others) will soon be evolutionary dead ends.

hush hush don't create any more booms like last time with that PR/news about ethereum vm porting that resulted in a HUGE PUMP AND DUMP based on vaporware and tons of people lost money.

respect and trust are earned through every day actions, not bullshit PR and fleecing people of their BTC based on fantasies.  the former something this project has yet to learn to do and earn the respect that BTC dev's have in their daily interactions, commitment and work to the greater community.

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My main point was that there are not many small players, only big holders and long time believers



Hope this make Counterparty better

That's great. Thumb up.

For anyone interested in improving the Counterparty protocol, the community is starting the CIP process: https://counterpartytalk.org/t/beginning-the-counterparty-cip-process-cip-0001/1613

The whole bid side on poloniex, which is the main exchange of XCP, is less than 15 BTC, and the daily volume is at single digit. That's the reason why no big player is intested to move coins and sell them, cause they cannot liquidate their holdings without push price to almost 0.

Also ~842000 XCP are still in burning address. Maybe count few thousand wrong but about 840k.

Because this not have sold or even moved so far we can wait that all own someone/s from 84. biggest owners.

When total balance is 2634744 XCP this means 84 richest+burn address coins is 1317372 XCP+842033 XCP = 2159405 XCP.

2159405/2634744*100= 81.95% of coins own someone from top 84 address... Maybe even more, I am not surprised if over 90% of coins owns someone of this 84 address... What this mean for markets and price in future are interesting IF something big happen...

(Found 9999 unique addresses with a total balance of 2634744.87612734 XCP)  

Over 0.00000001 XCP are in #4516 address.        +602 address
Over 1.0 XCP are in #3297                               +336        
Over 10.0 XCP are in #2331                              +94              
Over 100.0 XCP are in #1490                            -38              
Over 500.0 XCP are in #1064                             -49            
Over 1000.0 XCP are in #892                             -68            
Over 1500.0 XCP are in #149                             -11          
Over 2500.0 XCP are in #98                                 -3      
Over 5000.0 XCP are in #67                                +4

Total XCP balance have go down 6079.94 XCP.

6 month changes in addresses balances. Looks like peoples aren't really interested buying and holding XCP. Now it is under $80 what need to become over 100 XCP holder and in last 6 month more >100 XCP holders have sold than come in. Four new over 5000 XCP holders maybe have come when transfer burned coins to other address...

6 month ago 101 address have over 50% of coins and now 82 address have >50%.

If someone sell $3000 worth of XCP price drop to under $0.30 per XCP. It is 2% of richest address balance I think we will see new very low price before anything happen what take price go up.


Blockscan can't show over 9999 address for total address where have been before coins?

This is how crypto works. When good news comes out, the price goes lower. But, seriously, everything is going down relative to this current Bitcoin pop.

Interestingly, price keeps falling even after this news / exposure
I guess price of XCP is not a good measurement of CP popularity