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It is of course good for trust to have a celebrity promote a gambling site. You get a lot of customers that way. I sometimes wonder what those famous people get for such a commercial, since huge amounts are involved in the gambling world. It's quite difficult to put a ban on that, many countries are not even interested in this kind of thing. The priorities are different there. Countries that have to deal with a gambling commission have become somewhat stricter over the years.
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There are definately few things left out of here :
 - What would happen to the gambling sites who already have planned and have contract with the celebs endorsing their adverts on TV ( they might have to pull something through for that definitely)
-this would definately decrease the amount of people interested in gambling because of their favorite starts on the television
-This would reduce the amount of kids they attract towards these adverts as well I do think they should try and give them sepcific slots according to the time so that the kids won't be able to get to them as well.
- this episode definately affect the sports starts like the UFC ones because at the end of the day they were getting paid a lot for all the adverts in between.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60994728
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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.

Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.

The body representing betting companies said it welcomed the new rules.

Michael Dugher, chief executive of the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC) said the changes build on industry-led measures designed to "raise standards and ensure further protection in advertising."

The Advertising Practices Committee (CAP) said the "hard" new rules were part of its commitment to protecting young people and vulnerable audiences.

The new rules state that gambling and lottery advertisements must not "be a strong attraction to children or youth, especially by reflecting or being associated with youth culture".

References to video game content and gameplay popular with under-18s are also against the new rules.

There is opposition to gambling advertisements among some politicians, parents, and awareness campaigning groups around gambling addiction.



With or without these new rules as long as they are not educating their parents to teach how their children behave towards gambling we will still have a lot of young people gambling, this is not a way to protect children it should be about responsible parenting, the UK is a free commerce country and they deprive some celebrities to make money on a subject that they have no control of.

 True , without parental supervision, underage children will definitely be involved in gambling, even though the lottery class will definitely know gambling, I don't think the ad ban will be 100% of minors don't know gambling,
because the protection and supervision comes from the family environment, not by prohibiting advertising alone,
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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
It is nothing really new, after all businesses are experts at finding a way to get around the law and in many cases from the beginning they were behind those making those laws to make sure there are ways to get around them, so I do not find this to be surprising at all, besides unless a very specific criteria is devised to make this a reality I think this is a law that is not going to have too much of an effect in the daily operations of casinos.
Trough with gambling site always responsibility with tax payment for the government I think they will keep exist on some countries, I check with my country cases not allowed for football team advertising gambling platform but they can show and promote gabling site without get punishment and gambling platform site close by government. Here most important trough gambling platform still smooth for withdrawing and deposit not any reason for banned gambling platform, what ever kinds is it between casino and sport betting keep exist on several country right now.
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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
It is nothing really new, after all businesses are experts at finding a way to get around the law and in many cases from the beginning they were behind those making those laws to make sure there are ways to get around them, so I do not find this to be surprising at all, besides unless a very specific criteria is devised to make this a reality I think this is a law that is not going to have too much of an effect in the daily operations of casinos.
Most of the kids indulge themselves in trouble when they are not having a check and balance. Also Celebrates have a role towards society - they have to promote a positive image of the society for the sake of glory and peace. They cannot take any blame on them. In our country we have never seen any actor promoting smoking - which is injurious to health.
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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
It is nothing really new, after all businesses are experts at finding a way to get around the law and in many cases from the beginning they were behind those making those laws to make sure there are ways to get around them, so I do not find this to be surprising at all, besides unless a very specific criteria is devised to make this a reality I think this is a law that is not going to have too much of an effect in the daily operations of casinos.
That's right, because sometimes everything can be handled easily as if you don't violate the rules but play behind your back. This is even an open secret because it is very difficult to regulate this because there are still so many people who play behind the scenes for personal gain.
Quite agree with what you said about the law which will not have much effect in the daily operation of the casino.
Because I think it's very difficult to keep an eye on the various types and the number of casinos that run with only these rules there may be some that are violated although not all are like that but there will always be ones like that
Unless if it would be applied on global scale on which there's really a total ban with celebs and sports stars when it comes to collaboration or something in talks with partnership with casino.Then would able to
see that it would really be giving somewhat some slow down of casino exposure and advertisement but we do know that there are several ways on marketing out the business without the need of these people
or popular ones.We cant still totally get rid of it though because these business or this industry is just too big for it to be stopped and also kids could neither be able to engage or not
even they havent seen it into their idols.
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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
It is nothing really new, after all businesses are experts at finding a way to get around the law and in many cases from the beginning they were behind those making those laws to make sure there are ways to get around them, so I do not find this to be surprising at all, besides unless a very specific criteria is devised to make this a reality I think this is a law that is not going to have too much of an effect in the daily operations of casinos.
That's right, because sometimes everything can be handled easily as if you don't violate the rules but play behind your back. This is even an open secret because it is very difficult to regulate this because there are still so many people who play behind the scenes for personal gain.
Quite agree with what you said about the law which will not have much effect in the daily operation of the casino.
Because I think it's very difficult to keep an eye on the various types and the number of casinos that run with only these rules there may be some that are violated although not all are like that but there will always be ones like that
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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
It is nothing really new, after all businesses are experts at finding a way to get around the law and in many cases from the beginning they were behind those making those laws to make sure there are ways to get around them, so I do not find this to be surprising at all, besides unless a very specific criteria is devised to make this a reality I think this is a law that is not going to have too much of an effect in the daily operations of casinos.
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I very much agree with your opinion, in fact games of chance, sports companies around the world have as their main measure to accept adults, from 18 years of age you are an adult in my country, I do not know if they differ from other countries that the age of majority begins at 21.

For me the biggest of all the problems is that they are attacking the business model under which casinos and sports betting are also supported and it is through influencers, some athletes are influencers without them proposing it, just imagine a Messi or a CR7 on a casino platform that will attract almost all players, so I think the point is a bit tricky, it is to speculate on a business model that is developing much more currently.
All gambling casino platform have term or service allowed for adult and not prohibited for children created account, but not effective when have several gambling platform not using KYC for beginning gambling. Free for children or gambler under 18 years old active on several gambling site trough deposit by cryptocurrency, maybe have different thing when deposit fund for gambling casino account by fiat because children can't created bank account if still under 18 years old or without have ID card.

Most the gambling casinos have their terms regarding the age restriction and of course its the player's responsibility to check it but its 2022 guys most of the people don't read the instruction and terms they just created an account and if they meet some trouble they are just checking it, that's why its better if the gambling platforms always makes a notifying the members or the users with this agreements but mostly its just an accept if the user is age 18 above and after that they can proceed now, its ideal they have some child protection.
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You guys don't really understand that it is not really about "banning", it never was. It is all about control. The government wants to have as much control as they can, especially over things which they consider to be harmful to a certain group of people, for example, in this case, children.

Putting such arbitrary restrictions over online casino gambling advertisments is just one way to have more freedom over what they control while making it seem like they are putting down iron-clad rules with boundaries.

I doubt they want to protect children from gambling addiction even though they make it seem that way...


The whole point of government is about control, that isn't the debate. It's if the current move by the government is "effective or not". I believe it might be effective.

To truly protect children from early exposure to anything about gambling, would you like it more if the government bans all kinds of advertising coming from casinos and all other kinds of gambling? I believe the government's ban on using celebrities and sports stars is actually a fair compromise.
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Previously gambling sites and gambling company only look into the fiat investment and fiat withdraw. But after the reach of crytocurrency to next level, it was a quite enough to the involving of crytocurrency as the mode of playing and withdrawn. The important one of cryto gambling was, we get more cryto as a winning bet. Then by just holding the coin, we can earn huge from that cryptocurrency.
You are trying to say a lame fact. We will win same type of currency. If we deposit and place bet on fiat we will get fiat too if we win and if we deposit cryptocurrency then we will get cryptocurrency for the winnings. So, it is a basic way though several sites convert the cryptocurrency into fiat after making the deposit.
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All gambling casino platform have term or service allowed for adult and not prohibited for children created account, but not effective when have several gambling platform not using KYC for beginning gambling. Free for children or gambler under 18 years old active on several gambling site trough deposit by cryptocurrency, maybe have different thing when deposit fund for gambling casino account by fiat because children can't created bank account if still under 18 years old or without have ID card.
okay friend, that might be a good decision for us for the standard / minimum age that is allowed, of course this KYC must be above that age. Even though the connection is for personal legality, I have discussed above there are several people who help KYC / sell data adult self for those who have money, although rarely found.
but I've seen this transaction Kyc that is traded and traded, maybe that person just wants to get instant money and doesn't want to participate in any company. Then they try to sell their personal data which is actually a very big risk for him (the seller) it could be an account it may be misused outside of this gambling. How do you respond, friends, for the sake of gambling, there are those who are willing to sell and buy the identity of someone who may still be under the supervision and control of their parents?
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Previously gambling sites and gambling company only look into the fiat investment and fiat withdraw. But after the reach of crytocurrency to next level, it was a quite enough to the involving of crytocurrency as the mode of playing and withdrawn. The important one of cryto gambling was, we get more cryto as a winning bet. Then by just holding the coin, we can earn huge from that cryptocurrency.
What are you talking about? have you tried reading the OP for better understanding ?

OP is talking about the abuse of gambling site into luring players that they are using celebrities to lure people even younger generation to follow their Idol and made into gambling.


try to read OP most if the time so you won't act like in wrong thread posting.
check his post history. you'll notice that he has been posting off-topic posts. you'll also see on meta that there is a thread about the user. I have a feeling that he doesn't really care about the topic and just posting to fill his quota. the best thing to do here is to report his post for being off-topic.
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Previously gambling sites and gambling company only look into the fiat investment and fiat withdraw. But after the reach of crytocurrency to next level, it was a quite enough to the involving of crytocurrency as the mode of playing and withdrawn. The important one of cryto gambling was, we get more cryto as a winning bet. Then by just holding the coin, we can earn huge from that cryptocurrency.
What are you talking about? have you tried reading the OP for better understanding ?

OP is talking about the abuse of gambling site into luring players that they are using celebrities to lure people even younger generation to follow their Idol and made into gambling.
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try to read OP most if the time so you won't act like in wrong thread posting.
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I very much agree with your opinion, in fact games of chance, sports companies around the world have as their main measure to accept adults, from 18 years of age you are an adult in my country, I do not know if they differ from other countries that the age of majority begins at 21.

For me the biggest of all the problems is that they are attacking the business model under which casinos and sports betting are also supported and it is through influencers, some athletes are influencers without them proposing it, just imagine a Messi or a CR7 on a casino platform that will attract almost all players, so I think the point is a bit tricky, it is to speculate on a business model that is developing much more currently.
All gambling casino platform have term or service allowed for adult and not prohibited for children created account, but not effective when have several gambling platform not using KYC for beginning gambling. Free for children or gambler under 18 years old active on several gambling site trough deposit by cryptocurrency, maybe have different thing when deposit fund for gambling casino account by fiat because children can't created bank account if still under 18 years old or without have ID card.
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Given their fame and the amount of influence these guys have, I partly agree that they shouldn't partake in any activity promoting and advertising gambling. Though their target market is obviously the adults which can gamble, there is no way that they can control what the youngsters can see online or in the TV. Most of the time when young people see their idols advertise something, they tend to want it, or copy whatever it is that their idol is doing because they think it can make them look cool. Then again it's really a controversial law because it only targets the gambling sector and not other sectors which may also have a negative effect on the young population (liquors, tobacco-based stuff, etc.)

I very much agree with your opinion, in fact games of chance, sports companies around the world have as their main measure to accept adults, from 18 years of age you are an adult in my country, I do not know if they differ from other countries that the age of majority begins at 21.

For me the biggest of all the problems is that they are attacking the business model under which casinos and sports betting are also supported and it is through influencers, some athletes are influencers without them proposing it, just imagine a Messi or a CR7 on a casino platform that will attract almost all players, so I think the point is a bit tricky, it is to speculate on a business model that is developing much more currently.

Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
Yes. I understand what you mean, normally the countries that have prohibited gambling and everything related to casinos usually do that kind of thing, but the business model is so good that it is very difficult to get rid of everything, it is because of them that in Sometimes they don't say bets, but they change it to "you can win" or simply in some type of advertising they can say that there are options to earn money thinking, and that's how you enter, I know because I live in a country that for a long time was Gambling was prohibited and that was the way to enter some sites and operate without saying the words like "gambling".
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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.
need more security to be able to detect whether the player is over 18 years old or not and KYC alone is not enough because the child may use someone else's identity to be accepted as playing on the gambling site. but as far as I know, until now the most effective way (to be able to know the age of a player accurately) has yet to be found.
The most effective way of identity verification is yet to be found, which is true and this lets anyone to be into gambling unlike the age. Every country will have the national ID which can be used for verification with the usage of biometric scanner. Here the data of people need to be shared by the government, then it can be cross checked and only the proper aged person can be allowed.
But the thing is ? would this be abused ? or cheated ? we know how crocks can do anything just to Bypass everything favoring their objectives .
and that is the reason why most gambling sites requiring KYC to at least lessen the abusing , and also this rules will  be implemented because of the time being that the gambling industry are targeting new players and also younger generation.
gamble at your own cost but never allow the young to do the same,
they are vulnerable and they are always the loser.

not all gambling sites are scams that use artists or celebrities, many are legit that use artists for marketing such as stake


You misunderstood his message. I think he is telling about scam casino that uses celebrities illegally like using the photos of them  without the consent of the celebrity.

Yeah there is a  misunderstanding on that part, because as same as i understand the post, it is about those who will use the celebrities without their consent .
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Did the one that invent that phrase realize that it can be easily bypassed by anyone else? Did they think that people are too honest to not proceed if they are below 18 years old but adding a KYC can make it more effective.

I don't think a child will have the knowledge to use someone else I.D or pass the KYC process because there are forms that needs to be filled up and they are sometimes hard. Even me that I am already an adult is having hard time dealing with it, how much if they are just a child? And lastly KYC nowadays needs a live selfie so tell me how can someone bypass it? Unfortunately there are still crypto casinos that don't deal with KYC, so underage people can still gamble with them.
Possibility for children manipulated KYC document with several issues right now many tread actually have service for paying KYC process, easy for children under 18 years old passing KYC by looking other document people and ask them for verifying their account and have to pay several dollar. Every time on other forum have some person selling service help your problem with KYC process but depending how long children have been on gambling platform they will know how to pass KYC on several gambling network.
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I understand that you agree that advertising for gambling should be limited or even banned.
However I don't really understand, how do you think parents would otherwise control their child's access to gambling?
I do not agree with TimeTeller opinion, that children should be educated for everything related to their own world and should not be brought up on the topic of gambling, parents should control their children and limit their time playing gadgets because there are many bad effects for children.

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Do you mean that parents should educate their children about gambling themselves before they find out about it from other sources?
Of course not, parents must provide good education not to engage in gambling and betting based games, we must raise children in a good, knowledgeable and intelligent environment.
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