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Quote from: mu_enrico on September 27, 2021, 12:24:54 AM

And how do you know the result isn't rigged? People who resist vaccine don't trust the government, and they won't trust the result is going to be fair. Cheesy

I just hope that the government won't get butthurt by how little this lottery affects people's decision, and then start door-to-door forced vaccination.

This too.

If they really wanted to help people, they would give everybody a fixed amount of money instead. I made the calculation in my other post.

Quote from: mindrust on September 26, 2021, 02:40:36 PM

Why would it encourage people? To me it is quite lame. Even mathematically it is quite stupid. Why don't they just 35000 people $100 instead? This way they could have helped more people. Now there will be only one lucky guy and that's if they don't cheat.

If more than 35k people participate in this scam, it is even worse like shooting yourself in the foot for <$100.

If they were giving $100 to every person, their prize would only be enough for 35000 people. Now they can scam much more many people instead and there will be only one winner and that's if they are honest.

Scam.

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Quote from: Poker Player on September 25, 2021, 11:55:54 PM

What I think is that the motivation to get vaccinated should be based on scientific reasons, not on the hope of winning the lottery, whose probability is approximately 0.

It will surely convince some undecided people, but those who were already convinced did not need to be convinced, and those who think that the vaccine is a poison that has been manufactured by aliens, that carries micro-chips, and that will kill people within three years, will not get vaccinated because they are given a lottery ticket.

Well this makes a lot more sense than using the lottery to attract people to vaccines. Absolutely no proper relationship. Honestly, scientific studies are more accurate, this is not a place to gamble and get prizes from the lottery after being vaccinated.
It's a hospital business tactic so people can spend their lives just to get lottery tickets. Win or lose, you're still vaccinated, isn't that the goal of the Romanian government?

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Quote from: crzy on September 26, 2021, 04:21:24 PM

Quote from: Ultegra134 on September 26, 2021, 02:58:01 PM

I'm definitely not against vaccine promotion, however, I'm not sure if that's the right way. Instead, there should be a campaign presenting its health benefits, not only as an individual, but also as a community, a high vaccination percentage means less cases, less deaths and in the end, less austerity measures.

This lottery is consisted of 1139 prizes, some are weekly draws, some monthly etc, providing each participant 4 winning chances. Doesn't sound much of a great deal to me.

Something similar also occurred in Greece, young people aged from 18-24 were given a prepaid card with 150€ in balance, only to be used for the tourism sector. With or without incentives, I was vaccinated, not because I wanted the prepaid card, but because it's what's required for this pandemic to end.

Social media are full of fake news, and educating people might take more time so the government have to think for a faster way and an effective way to encourage people from getting their vaccines, and I see this kind of promotion as a good one. Vaccine is not just for ourselves but also for people around us, get your vaccine now and have a chance to win some of the prizes.

Probably one of the most accurate responses. I entirely agree with you, providing such incentives now that the economy is going through a hard time is possibly one of the fastest way to attract new people to vaccinations. As I mentioned before, in Greece, young people aged from 18-24 were given a prepaid card which could be used for travelling, right when this measure was announced, the scheduled vaccinations skyrocketed for that specific target group.

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Quote from: jcojci on September 25, 2021, 10:38:45 PM

Finally, another country, namely Romania, launched a Vaccination Lottery for the public. It is hoped that this will encourage people to participate in the Romanian government's vaccination program. The amount provided by the Romanian government is RON15,000,000 ($3.5m).
[...] What do you think about the launch of this Vaccination Lottery?

It's crazy that this sort of thing is needed. Will it target the right people, who knows? It's difficult to understand how an anti-vaxxer thinks... but from spending time in vaccine threads on the P&S board, all of their arguments appear to be based on faith rather than logic... and this is the same sort of mindset as believing you'll win a lottery despite it being statistically very unlikely, so maybe this will work.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on September 27, 2021, 12:24:54 AM

And how do you know the result isn't rigged? People who resist vaccine don't trust the government, and they won't trust the result is going to be fair. Cheesy

I just hope that the government won't get butthurt by how little this lottery affects people's decision, and then start door-to-door forced vaccination.

Those people who do not trust the government are not the target audience for such actions. They are trying to lure those who are hesitant or just lazy to get vaccinated. Based on the example of my country, I can say that the effect of such actions is about zero, and maybe even negative - all people understand that free cheese is only in a mousetrap.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on September 27, 2021, 12:24:54 AM

And how do you know the result isn't rigged? People who resist vaccine don't trust the government, and they won't trust the result is going to be fair. Cheesy

I just hope that the government won't get butthurt by how little this lottery affects people's decision, and then start door-to-door forced vaccination.

the credibility of Lottery worldwide is being questioned long time ago as people still believe that the government is controlling whom to win since the winners are not willing to unfold themselves so it can be fakes in many ways.
or they can easily say that there are 5 winners in jackpot but the truth is only one true winner but the other 4 is dummy to sliced the wins.
so there is a possibilities that this is being rigger.

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Quote from: Sled on September 27, 2021, 02:11:23 AM

I'd never see this that could encourage people to get vaccinated as not all are gamblers in the 1st place. What I think about this strategy is one way of making their people stupid, they just want their people to get involved in gambling.
5million in exchange for life? Nha, I'd rather have to stay at home playing online games, that I was safe. People are willing to get vaccinated without any incentives program if they know that they are secure with the vaccine but that is not what they think and hear.

For low-level class, that lottery really tempts them to go to vaccination as they can get money from the vaccine as a lottery and if that is not in the money form, they can get it in the coupon form so they can exchange it for food. We never know what they will think about those programs, but the government gives lottery as the incentive to attract their people to be vaccinated. Maybe some people still do not want to be vaccinated because they do not think much about the virus.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on September 27, 2021, 12:24:54 AM

And how do you know the result isn't rigged? People who resist vaccine don't trust the government, and they won't trust the result is going to be fair. Cheesy

I just hope that the government won't get butthurt by how little this lottery affects people's decision, and then start door-to-door forced vaccination.

Afaik the raffle is held by the national lottery and many trust it's not rigged.
But.. I'm not part of that group Grin

That's why I said that the 100 RON vouchers are more helpful for the actual people. The lottery is just a bonus; it has the potential to help as publicity though, but, again, they could have hired some public figures for that much cheaper.

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I'd never see this that could encourage people to get vaccinated as not all are gamblers in the 1st place. What I think about this strategy is one way of making their people stupid, they just want their people to get involved in gambling.
5million in exchange for life? Nha, I'd rather have to stay at home playing online games, that I was safe. People are willing to get vaccinated without any incentives program if they know that they are secure with the vaccine but that is not what they think and hear.

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Vaccination lotteries are an insult to people's intelligence.
Do they think that the people are retards?No lottery can incentivize me to vaccinate.I will vaccinate when I'm sure that the vaccines are effective and there's a real threat for my health due to the coronavirus.
Perhaps the lottery gambling addicts will have to vaccinate multiple times,in order to get multiple "tickets" for that lottery.This is ridiculous.

Quote from: mu_enrico on September 27, 2021, 12:24:54 AM

And how do you know the result isn't rigged? People who resist vaccine don't trust the government, and they won't trust the result is going to be fair. Cheesy

I just hope that the government won't get butthurt by how little this lottery affects people's decision, and then start door-to-door forced vaccination.

I agree.The people don't trust the government and the healthcare system.Diving them "small candies" won't help.However,I don't think that forced vaccination will start,at least not in my country.

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And how do you know the result isn't rigged? People who resist vaccine don't trust the government, and they won't trust the result is going to be fair. Cheesy

I just hope that the government won't get butthurt by how little this lottery affects people's decision, and then start door-to-door forced vaccination.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 26, 2021, 10:06:19 PM

Thanks for the reminder, so there's really some lotteries in some US states that did a free lottery for those vaccinated population, what I don't know is that they have 100 USD incentive if they vaccinated themselves.

For the government, it makes sense. Given the inflated healthcare costs in the United States, it is better to give out $100 to those who vaccinate, rather than spending $200,000 or $300,000 on someone who gets admitted to the ICU as a result of COVID. For the alcoholics and junkies, this amount is enough to fund a week of their habit. Don't think that anyone else will bother about it in the United States. But this amount is like the average monthly salary where I live. Here if there is such an offer from the government, then you will find half the population queued up outside the vaccination center.

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This has become widespread. It might be effective to a certain extent. But it would be best to actually educate people on the health benefits of vaccines rather than on the possibility of winning a lottery. It is best if people are getting vaccinated because in doing so they are making themselves immune from the virus and removes the possibility of becoming a carrier of the virus and possibly getting others infected. This might become a precedent that if the state wants something from the people, a reward system has to be used.

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Quote from: blockman on September 26, 2021, 09:20:49 PM

Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 26, 2021, 08:42:27 PM

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IIRC, in some of the states, not actually the whole USA that has put that incentive but in a few states. Although there's a $100 incentive for those that will take the vaccine all over the US, CMIIW.
And for the other states, like California, they've offered also a lottery for the vaccinated people and you can search for the rest of the states that did the same.
(https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/27/california-covid-19-vaccine-lottery)

Thanks for the reminder, so there's really some lotteries in some US states that did a free lottery for those vaccinated population, what I don't know is that they have 100 USD incentive if they vaccinated themselves.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 26, 2021, 08:42:27 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 26, 2021, 08:10:12 PM

Was it Poland that did this after the USA? The governments are using everything that they can to incentivize and attract people to get vaccinated so that they can turn back to their old lives.

I think it was Poland although I am not sure on USA that they also have one, can't remember US having one but I am sure about Poland having one. This method of vaccination promotion is such a cheap but at the same time a brilliant idea given how it's attractive towards the population that's needing the vaccinations the most.

IIRC, in some of the states, not actually the whole USA that has put that incentive but in a few states. Although there's a $100 incentive for those that will take the vaccine all over the US, CMIIW.
And for the other states, like California, they've offered also a lottery for the vaccinated people and you can search for the rest of the states that did the same.
(https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/27/california-covid-19-vaccine-lottery)

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Quote from: harizen on September 26, 2021, 07:10:30 PM

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The lottery is a good incentive for those who want to be vaccinated but the government should focus more on educating their people on the danger of CoVid and the need to be vaccinated, even if you are vaccinated you could still get a CoVid but it will help you fight the virus and you have a good chance to survive than when you are not vaccinated, people should learn how to fight this virus because sad to say it will be part now of our lives because it keeps mutating.

The government of any country has always been vocal about the benefits of getting a vaccine. The problem is, people are still hesitant despite those good reasons. That's why lots of attempts were made to convince them to the point that even involving a chance to join a lottery. A good move but there are "better" perks that people can benefit from for a long.

With so many people dying from COVID-19, I believe all countries are educating their citizens about the benefits of vaccines. Because the only best
way right now to prevent the spread of the virus, it must be done with a vaccine. But the problem is that there are also a lot of misleading news spread,
which says the harmful side effects on the body after the vaccine in the long term. This is what finally makes some people are affected and choose to
refuse vaccination. Therefore, the government is doing various ways to convince the population to want to be vaccinated. One of them is giving lottery
tickets to people who are willing to be vaccinated, and this has proven to be quite successful in increasing the enthusiasm of the community to want
to be vaccinated. This means that efforts to give lottery tickets should be made by other countries that have not done so.

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Quote from: blockman on September 26, 2021, 08:10:12 PM

Was it Poland that did this after the USA? The governments are using everything that they can to incentivize and attract people to get vaccinated so that they can turn back to their old lives.

I think it was Poland although I am not sure on USA that they also have one, can't remember US having one but I am sure about Poland having one. This method of vaccination promotion is such a cheap but at the same time a brilliant idea given how it's attractive towards the population that's needing the vaccinations the most.

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Was it Poland that did this after the USA? The governments are using everything that they can to incentivize and attract people to get vaccinated so that they can turn back to their old lives.
There will be for sure another country that will start to like this vaccination drive that has a lottery ticket after getting the shot. It's a chance and as well being protected from the virus.
It's a way to encourage their people that all of them has to be vaccinated but not everyone will take it.

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Quote from: jcojci on September 25, 2021, 10:38:45 PM

Finally, another country, namely Romania, launched a Vaccination Lottery for the public. It is hoped that this will encourage people to participate in the Romanian government's vaccination program. The amount provided by the Romanian government is RON15,000,000 ($3.5m).

This is good news for people and this lottery also aims to encourage vaccination and each participant will have four chances of winning. In addition, the government also agreed to make regulations for people who are eligible to be vaccinated to receive a meal voucher worth RON100.

It seems that the Vaccination Lottery program can attract people to register so that the government's target in reducing the number of people infected with Covid-19 can succeed. Maybe after this, there will be other countries that will follow. What do you think about the launch of this Vaccination Lottery? Can it attract the other countries to follow what USA and Romania did? Is that be a good way to attract attention from people to have vaccination because that teach them to use lottery to make money which we know that lottery is part of gambling.

Source: https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/13229/romania-joins-the-vaccination-lottery-race

Yes I think this kind of games are a really strong incentive to vaccinate people. The game theory teaches us that people like to do things that can bring profits to them.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on September 26, 2021, 02:58:01 PM

I'm definitely not against vaccine promotion, however, I'm not sure if that's the right way. Instead, there should be a campaign presenting its health benefits, not only as an individual, but also as a community, a high vaccination percentage means less cases, less deaths and in the end, less austerity measures.

This lottery is consisted of 1139 prizes, some are weekly draws, some monthly etc, providing each participant 4 winning chances. Doesn't sound much of a great deal to me.

Any form of encouragement is the right way. It's impossible that the government is not presenting a campaign showing benefits why everyone needs to be vaccinated. It was always posted on social media, health websites, and some advertisements. The campaign drive showing those benefits is not effectively leading the government to think of a way and a lottery is one of them.

Quote from: Ultegra134 on September 26, 2021, 02:58:01 PM

This lottery is consisted of 1139 prizes, some are weekly draws, some monthly etc, providing each participant 4 winning chances. Doesn't sound much of a great deal to me.

Why the offer should be a great deal? You have mentioned with or without incentives, you are vaccinated and that should always be the case.

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