Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (10/12 v1.12 update) - page 53.

piliff

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Quote from: Tupsu on December 05, 2017, 04:46:08 AM

In the Russian forum has a tutorial on how to go around without DEV FEE.

I saw these posts, but I believe that is unfair.

And if many people do this, the developer will have to look for ways to get around.

As a result, we will get a situation where efforts from both sides will be aimed at fighting each other, instead of improving the software.

cumbrian-miner

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Morning...

Flashed one D3 with blissz's firmware yesterday. Ran overnight on lowest voltage and 444mhz. No HWs; fans at 20%; temps low 70ºC. Was getting just under 17,000 MH/S at around 800W.

Running this morning at 10% fan, 400mhz, 15,000 MH/S and temps 69/70/72ºC. Power is at about 700W. Obviously going to watch this because of fan speed...

Going to run for a few days and then flash another D3; but looking good.

Thanks again - certainly a lot more useful than the stock settings.

All we need now is some developer to come up with an ingenious way to use these ASICs on other algos, England to beat Australia in the cricket, and we're laughing tin hats.

Tupsu

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Quote from: piliff on December 05, 2017, 04:27:35 AM

Quote from: D3 Antminer on December 04, 2017, 06:38:59 PM

this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,

it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.

also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.

If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.

seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly

the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.

do not confuse the minds please.

Are you russian? Grin

In the Russian forum has a tutorial on how to go around without DEV FEE.

Quote from: llanaio on December 05, 2017, 03:32:00 AM

How was the dev fee hidden? I spotted it immediately. Dev fees are why people put their time into building new tools that we can benefit from. No dev fee = no new miners or FW, and we're stuck with whatever Bitmain gives us. (Not much!)

In the first ten(?) versions of the software, he was on the front page.

thesavoyard

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Quote from: Experimenter on December 05, 2017, 04:32:18 AM

thesavoyard
I'm not an expert in D3, but these temps look a bit too hot to me. I'd try to keep chips temperatures at or below 80, if possible.

I'm not sure were you are located, but it's winter in many parts of the world nowadays. So if you can arrange some cool air to reach the miner, it could really help.

I wish I could but I have it in the ventilation closet. I have the exhaust blowing out the cO2 vent system. I leave the door cracked to some ambient air gets in, but I think the adapter will fix the problem. I just have to get to the hardware store.

Tupsu

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Quote from: tsojin on December 04, 2017, 07:07:41 PM

Its not hidden you can see it in the kernal log, its also on the top level post. If you don't think the dev is worth it for 'just a mod' of the firmware, then don't pay it just use bitmain stock firmware, no is forcing you to use it. Honestly if he could actually add additional algo's to the miner he could charge a lot more then 1.5% dev fee.

For me this is hidden.
Since the antminer S1, I have never needed a look to Kernel log.

She was previously understandable on the front page.
Why did you need to change it at all?

Experimenter

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thesavoyard
I'm not an expert in D3, but these temps look a bit too hot to me. I'd try to keep chips temperatures at or below 80, if possible.

I'm not sure were you are located, but it's winter in many parts of the world nowadays. So if you can arrange some cool air to reach the miner, it could really help.

piliff

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Quote from: D3 Antminer on December 04, 2017, 06:38:59 PM

this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,

it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.

also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.

If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.

seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly

the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.

do not confuse the minds please.

Are you russian? Grin

thesavoyard

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Quote from: Experimenter on December 05, 2017, 04:14:03 AM

Yes, reducing the frequency should also result in lower temperatures.

What is the ambient temperature in the room?

What temps other boards show? If they are significantly lower, you can downclock only "Chain 3" (or whatever board is overheating).

I seem to have found the problem, there's an exhaust bottleneck on my sound reducing box. I'm going to get a 240 mm to 120 mm reducer so it funnels all the hot air directly from the back of the miner to the exhaust ducting. Until then, I'll slow down board 3. This is what it's showing.

1 60 425 5303.90 0 73 84

2 60 425 5222.22 0 70 82

3 60 425 5258.58 0 77 89

Experimenter

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Yes, reducing the frequency should also result in lower temperatures.

What is the ambient temperature in the room?

What temps other boards show? If they are significantly lower, you can downclock only "Chain 3" (or whatever board is overheating) in the Advanced Settings.

thesavoyard

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I don't know what's going on here, but I'm at 400 mHz, lowest voltage and 45% fan speed and my temps are still really high.

Board 3 chips are reporting 95c. Will dropping the frequency reduce the temperature?

thesavoyard

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Quote from: Experimenter on December 05, 2017, 03:45:54 AM

Check the "Miner Status" tab.

HW errors are called "HW" there. You get a total, and a breakdown per each board.

Thanks, so at 425 mHz I have 0. I'm going to quiet and efficient, any target frequency you suggest?

Crap, even at 30% board 3 is hitting 94c.

Yeah, it keeps over-heating and shutting down. I put it to 400 mHz and 35% fanspeed. We'll see how that goes.

Experimenter

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Check the "Miner Status" tab.

HW errors are called "HW" there. You get a total, and a breakdown per each board.

thesavoyard

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So I've set it up, I started at 425 mHz and I can't find where hardware errors are reported. Anyone know which page it's on?

So at 25% fanspeed my chip temp got to 96c and I think it shut off. I set it to 30%, we'll see if that works.

llanaio

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How was the dev fee hidden? I spotted it immediately. Dev fees are why people put their time into building new tools that we can benefit from. No dev fee = no new miners or FW, and we're stuck with whatever Bitmain gives us. (Not much!)

D3 Antminer

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Quote from: dottat on December 04, 2017, 09:42:41 PM

Quote from: D3 Antminer on December 04, 2017, 06:38:59 PM

this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,

it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.

also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.

If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.

seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly

the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.

do not confuse the minds please.

Coming from the guy who kept posting that bs link to that bs scam page about adding other algorithms for donations first??

You are going in ingnore sir.

fuck the scam page which claims donate. do you think that I am one of them
and you find out ha ?
dont think about too much conspiracy shits
we are all in the same boat.
My thoughts was not aimed to disrespect
I share my thoughts , you may like it or not

lets summarize

1) No one likes the hidden lifetime fees unless this is a miner itself.( especially in asic world)
2) if new algo possible , everyone will have much more profit because of this firmware so may be they share profit in that way.But new algo is not a item in this thread.
3) I believe that most of us prefer on time payment when experimental progress ended and stable version has been released.

if you like to believe conspiracy theories , go watch flat earth documentaries and satisfy yourself. ,
Do not mess with me

ftguy

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Thank you so much, this firmware is a bliss, I am currently testing 400Mhz, lowest voltage, 777watts , fans are around 2300 (auto-silence), hashing 15,156.20 and the noise is nothing compared to what it was before Grin

Just the pleasure to change any setting without that high pitch turbine sound at every reboot is worth the flash ^^

martyshmoo

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Quote from: dottat on December 04, 2017, 09:42:41 PM

Quote from: D3 Antminer on December 04, 2017, 06:38:59 PM

this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,

it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.

also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.

If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.

seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly

the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.

do not confuse the minds please.

I am wondering how 1.5% is worked in this software. Everywhere I mine I get this drawback of hashrate on any pool evert 4 hours to 8 G/H for 5 minutes.

Is this the dev fee happening in true time?

Just wondering, It would explain a lot.

M

dottat

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Quote from: D3 Antminer on December 04, 2017, 06:38:59 PM

this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,

it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.

also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.

If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.

seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly

the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.

do not confuse the minds please.

Coming from the guy who kept posting that bs link to that bs scam page about adding other algorithms for donations first??

You are going in ingnore sir.

heythorp

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Quote from: llanaio on December 04, 2017, 08:58:43 PM

Thanks. Electricity cost is around $0.04/kWh plus a fixed hosting fee per unit. So I'm best off getting as much hashrate as I can from the units without killing them in <2 years. I've been tweaking my test units the past few hours and feel like I understand the options better. Relieved that I can continue updating as FW improves.

FWIW, I was not at all confused about the dev fee and feel that 1.5% is reasonable if I get at least 5% net improvement. I hope you'll be well paid for your continued FW development. I'm not really expecting much from Bitmain in terms of advancing the FW. One question on the Dev fee, though: I understand that you choose your own pools, but do you alter the unit's other parameters during the Dev fee time? If I have my settings just so, does the dev fee period ramp them up, or just leave them as I've set them.

Thanks.

To change things like frequency or volts would require a reboot.

llanaio

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Quote from: blissz on December 04, 2017, 06:17:00 PM

Quote from: llanaio on December 04, 2017, 05:46:46 PM

Sorry, didn't realize I could flash remotely. Thought I had to pull the controller and use an SD card on the Beaglebone ARM. Tried remote flashing, works great, so I'm happy I can keep up with your new versions remotely.

Still interested in your thoughts for ideal settings for a data center environment.

It really depends on the power costs per kwh. But probably 17 Mh/s per unit (needs a voltage setting ~5 to ~9 I think) would be a sweet spot. It keeps things a bit cooler compared to the default firmware and makes sure you will have less failing units over a period of 2 years I would say.

Thanks. Electricity cost is around $0.04/kWh plus a fixed hosting fee per unit. So I'm best off getting as much hashrate as I can from the units without killing them in <2 years. I've been tweaking my test units the past few hours and feel like I understand the options better. Relieved that I can continue updating as FW improves.

FWIW, I was not at all confused about the dev fee and feel that 1.5% is reasonable if I get at least 5% net improvement. I hope you'll be well paid for your continued FW development. I'm not really expecting much from Bitmain in terms of advancing the FW. One question on the Dev fee, though: I understand that you choose your own pools, but do you alter the unit's other parameters during the Dev fee time? If I have my settings just so, does the dev fee period ramp them up, or just leave them as I've set them.

Thanks.

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