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Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 350. (Read 710164 times)

legendary
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Several hours ago I posted a screenshot asking why I do only have ~250GH/s while the miner is powered with a 1600W PSU and all ASICs looked fine. I restarted the miner and let it run a few hours. Now it looks like this:


It seems that some ASICs can not be detected. What can I do in this case?
Thank you
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
Guys: I been testing a few SP10s in a room in my office, normally the temp is 90F degrees because I have 4 of them in a small space. One day it was 100 degrees in there! The end result what the miners worked great, and I am actually moving them to the datacenter today.

Question: What are you thoughts about running this S3 at 80F? 90F? 100F environments? Would they just shut off? I may test today at 80F. The way I make the temps go up or down is to turn on more miners. I have a room for testing, but there is no ventilation in there. Its a big room, but it heats up fast. Would love to hear who is running at what room temperature. I am sure 80F and below is no problem...

up to 85F is no problem for both S2 and S3.
legendary
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since there are so many miners here and I want to buy ANTMINER S3 I'll post my question here. Is there a chart of multipool mining profitability in fiat over a long period of time (6-12months)? If not maybe you can tell me from your experience..

I want to know whether the current $1.6/100GH/day is somewhat stable and can be expected to stay that way the coming 6 months.
(I'm a newbie regarding mining, so with this miner I can use it for multipools right? Grin)

I'd take some serious time learning more about bitcoin before you invest a cent. The difficulty changes after every 2016 blocks.  Here is a list of the historical increases.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

In the last 6 months it has gone from ~3 million to ~19 million. SO NO WAY you will be making anything close to $1.6/100GH/day in 6 months.

thanks! I know about bitcoin difficulty and got burned already Grin
I'm asking about the other coins since multipools mine the most profitable, which ever coin it happens to be. But there is no "profitability" chart of multipools over such a period of time.
I have been mining at multipool.us for several months. I haven't kept detailed records but can tell you that it now spends >95% of the time mining bitcoin directly, not any of the other coins. The way the pool works ensures that any of the more profitable coins will be mined until they are approximately the same profitability as bitcoin, so it effectively destroys its own market. I imagine the other multipools will have roughly the same effect.

The only way to beat the multipools is to mine newer coins before they get added to the pools, which is a bit of a gamble and isn't a set-and-forget option which I think is what you are looking for.

It is a circular system.  You buy equipment to mine, it increases the network hash rates,  so they increase the difficulty, forcing you to buy more equipment to stay profitable, all the new equipment causes them to step up the difficulty again, and make you buy more equipment again.  Basically you are spending all your profits on more equipment to stay as profitable as when you started mining months earlier.  All in all, the only ones making money are the equipment manufacturers and the power companies.  The network hash rates is growing so fast now that you can't make enough profits to invest in solar/wind power to offset the power costs.  Once you get into the loop, it is hard to just shut down $20-30K of mining equipment that has only allowed you to buy more mining equipment.  Nothing in your pocket to speak of.  Kinda sucks unless you have hundreds of thousands invested in equipment already.

What prevents you from mining with a couple Th at home, for which you would pay only ~2K.
Nobody said that you are supposed to make a living out of it.
To me, it is interesting and feels like a contribution to bitcoin success in some way
sr. member
Activity: 364
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Guys: I been testing a few SP10s in a room in my office, normally the temp is 90F degrees because I have 4 of them in a small space. One day it was 100 degrees in there! The end result what the miners worked great, and I am actually moving them to the datacenter today.

Question: What are you thoughts about running this S3 at 80F? 90F? 100F environments? Would they just shut off? I may test today at 80F. The way I make the temps go up or down is to turn on more miners. I have a room for testing, but there is no ventilation in there. Its a big room, but it heats up fast. Would love to hear who is running at what room temperature. I am sure 80F and below is no problem...
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
since there are so many miners here and I want to buy ANTMINER S3 I'll post my question here. Is there a chart of multipool mining profitability in fiat over a long period of time (6-12months)? If not maybe you can tell me from your experience..

I want to know whether the current $1.6/100GH/day is somewhat stable and can be expected to stay that way the coming 6 months.
(I'm a newbie regarding mining, so with this miner I can use it for multipools right? Grin)

I'd take some serious time learning more about bitcoin before you invest a cent. The difficulty changes after every 2016 blocks.  Here is a list of the historical increases.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

In the last 6 months it has gone from ~3 million to ~19 million. SO NO WAY you will be making anything close to $1.6/100GH/day in 6 months.

thanks! I know about bitcoin difficulty and got burned already Grin
I'm asking about the other coins since multipools mine the most profitable, which ever coin it happens to be. But there is no "profitability" chart of multipools over such a period of time.
I have been mining at multipool.us for several months. I haven't kept detailed records but can tell you that it now spends >95% of the time mining bitcoin directly, not any of the other coins. The way the pool works ensures that any of the more profitable coins will be mined until they are approximately the same profitability as bitcoin, so it effectively destroys its own market. I imagine the other multipools will have roughly the same effect.

The only way to beat the multipools is to mine newer coins before they get added to the pools, which is a bit of a gamble and isn't a set-and-forget option which I think is what you are looking for.

It is a circular system.  You buy equipment to mine, it increases the network hash rates,  so they increase the difficulty, forcing you to buy more equipment to stay profitable, all the new equipment causes them to step up the difficulty again, and make you buy more equipment again.  Basically you are spending all your profits on more equipment to stay as profitable as when you started mining months earlier.  All in all, the only ones making money are the equipment manufacturers and the power companies.  The network hash rates is growing so fast now that you can't make enough profits to invest in solar/wind power to offset the power costs.  Once you get into the loop, it is hard to just shut down $20-30K of mining equipment that has only allowed you to buy more mining equipment.  Nothing in your pocket to speak of.  Kinda sucks unless you have hundreds of thousands invested in equipment already.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
The shipping of B5 started, 7 days earlier than promised date. We added more B5 units for sale.

What about B4 ? That hasn't even started shipping yet has it?

Mine shipped on 7/29 and  is scheduled to be delivered on 8/1

When did you order?

ANTMINER S3 -B4 × 4  @ 2014-07-24 22:28:43

B4 x 6 @ 2014-07-24 14:45:04

Thanks. Maybe they have actually shipped and I just haven't had the notice - that's happened before a few times...

Yea I have had that happen before. I ordered almost the same time and I didnt get any notice either...

edit: Order Date: 2014-07-24 19:25:57
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
My order time:

2014-07-24 14:46:51.0


Latest UPS update:

07/30/2014   9:39 A.M.   The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release.


And the sceduled delivery time has gone from tomorrow by the end of the day, to "Scheduled delivery information is not available at this time. Please check back later."
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
The shipping of B5 started, 7 days earlier than promised date. We added more B5 units for sale.

What about B4 ? That hasn't even started shipping yet has it?

Mine shipped on 7/29 and  is scheduled to be delivered on 8/1

When did you order?

ANTMINER S3 -B4 × 4  @ 2014-07-24 22:28:43

B4 x 6 @ 2014-07-24 14:45:04

Thanks. Maybe they have actually shipped and I just haven't had the notice - that's happened before a few times...
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
The shipping of B5 started, 7 days earlier than promised date. We added more B5 units for sale.

What about B4 ? That hasn't even started shipping yet has it?

Mine shipped on 7/29 and  is scheduled to be delivered on 8/1

When did you order?

ANTMINER S3 -B4 × 4  @ 2014-07-24 22:28:43

B4 x 6 @ 2014-07-24 14:45:04
full member
Activity: 207
Merit: 112
Yes "warranty' have not much value in the mining hardware.
41 - 42 was my temperature peaks at stock clocks.
I don't have any link to the thermal grease for now.
I'm searching for it to buy the same brand or the alternative one having >3 conductivity.
But most of the products I'm seeing is of conductivity 1.
I will post here the link if I find it or some else who has experience in doing this will support here.

They are talking about removing the front-side heatsinks, right?
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
The shipping of B5 started, 7 days earlier than promised date. We added more B5 units for sale.

What about B4 ? That hasn't even started shipping yet has it?

Mine shipped on 7/29 and  is scheduled to be delivered on 8/1

When did you order?

ANTMINER S3 -B4 × 4  @ 2014-07-24 22:28:43
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
The shipping of B5 started, 7 days earlier than promised date. We added more B5 units for sale.

What about B4 ? That hasn't even started shipping yet has it?

Mine shipped on 7/29 and  is scheduled to be delivered on 8/1
full member
Activity: 207
Merit: 112
I put a ticket with bitmaintech support and I wish to share it with you all.
My S3 was hashing low at 400 - 420. Long term average was 421.
Bitmaintech engineer told me to remove the heat sink, clean it with a cloth and apply thermal new paste.
They recommended to buy "Dow Coining thermal paste grease" for this purpose.
Which can be sourced from ebay or amazon.
If its not available at your location buy any good thermal grease which has conductivity above 3.
Also I asked then about warranty issues if that type of a hack ws done, and they assured me that no warranty will be void for doing it.

I received the same message Yesterday. Maybe they're on to something? Are you B3?
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
The shipping of B5 started, 7 days earlier than promised date. We added more B5 units for sale.

What about B4 ? That hasn't even started shipping yet has it?

Batch 4 shipping notices went out yesterday

Mine is still unshipped - B4
hero member
Activity: 918
Merit: 1002
The shipping of B5 started, 7 days earlier than promised date. We added more B5 units for sale.

What about B4 ? That hasn't even started shipping yet has it?

Batch 4 shipping notices went out yesterday
My batch 4 order will be delivered tomorrow in the US.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
The shipping of B5 started, 7 days earlier than promised date. We added more B5 units for sale.

What about B4 ? That hasn't even started shipping yet has it?

I just emailed them the same question as I am early B4 and mine hasn't shipped yet. No response yet.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
The shipping of B5 started, 7 days earlier than promised date. We added more B5 units for sale.

What about B4 ? That hasn't even started shipping yet has it?

Batch 4 shipping notices went out yesterday
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
The shipping of B5 started, 7 days earlier than promised date. We added more B5 units for sale.

What about B4 ? That hasn't even started shipping yet has it?
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1047
since there are so many miners here and I want to buy ANTMINER S3 I'll post my question here. Is there a chart of multipool mining profitability in fiat over a long period of time (6-12months)? If not maybe you can tell me from your experience..

I want to know whether the current $1.6/100GH/day is somewhat stable and can be expected to stay that way the coming 6 months.
(I'm a newbie regarding mining, so with this miner I can use it for multipools right? Grin)

No, it won't. You can expect the income (in BTC) to drop 20-30% every 10 days or so. Go and read up on 'difficulty'


Whats this 20-30% witchcraft?

I see the last diff jumps were 3% and 8%, Here's hoping they stay around that rate!!

Bitcoin Difficulty:    18,736,441,558
Estimated Next Difficulty:    19,526,251,935 (+4.22%)

realistically i expect to see 9-12% for the next 2 jumps - difficulty is slowing but i think the last two weeks were a nice low hop from variance and the massive 20% jump before that. another jump under 9% would be amazing though, and almost surely lock in a profit for mining
With the new results out from spondoolies, below is the updated Hardware comparison chart/document.



The link to the shared document.

NOTE: If network difficulty stays below 20% for the next two retargets then the document will be revised to 10% and 5% estimate results.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmeuPljmUNHCdEpqX2RmMDFwemJyLURVUWFtZ3J3aGc&usp=sharing
hero member
Activity: 623
Merit: 500
since there are so many miners here and I want to buy ANTMINER S3 I'll post my question here. Is there a chart of multipool mining profitability in fiat over a long period of time (6-12months)? If not maybe you can tell me from your experience..

I want to know whether the current $1.6/100GH/day is somewhat stable and can be expected to stay that way the coming 6 months.
(I'm a newbie regarding mining, so with this miner I can use it for multipools right? Grin)

I'd take some serious time learning more about bitcoin before you invest a cent. The difficulty changes after every 2016 blocks.  Here is a list of the historical increases.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

In the last 6 months it has gone from ~3 million to ~19 million. SO NO WAY you will be making anything close to $1.6/100GH/day in 6 months.

thanks! I know about bitcoin difficulty and got burned already Grin
I'm asking about the other coins since multipools mine the most profitable, which ever coin it happens to be. But there is no "profitability" chart of multipools over such a period of time.
I have been mining at multipool.us for several months. I haven't kept detailed records but can tell you that it now spends >95% of the time mining bitcoin directly, not any of the other coins. The way the pool works ensures that any of the more profitable coins will be mined until they are approximately the same profitability as bitcoin, so it effectively destroys its own market. I imagine the other multipools will have roughly the same effect.

The only way to beat the multipools is to mine newer coins before they get added to the pools, which is a bit of a gamble and isn't a set-and-forget option which I think is what you are looking for.

ok thanks a lot to all of you guys, this answers my questions Smiley
I guess I'll wait a few more months till I have more time to pay attention and mine new coins and also where the difficulty starts to saturate more with ASICs reaching their limits then I can expect a slower profitability decline. when I was into mining a year and a bit ago, my calculations were also a 3 months ROI (for btc only) but a few months delay and btc skyrocketing right after and all my investments got burned. and it seems nothing has changed since and all the alts are keeping the same pace of 3 months ROI, unless of course I find the undervalued ones and mine those, but I'll need more free time on my hands.
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