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Just got an email that my Batch 4's just shipped  Grin

Does anyone have any coupons to sell? PM me if so.
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Just got my shipping confirmation for B4 Cheesy looks like Bitmain is really keeping to its promise of shipping before Aug 2nd, by 4 days early
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Got the refund this morning BEFORE the physical delivery of the B3's (American Customs and UPS are screwing me violently in the arse). Might (doubtful) show up tomorrow.


Ordering in shipments of 2 units each and using DHL, all of my Bitmain orders have made it from HK to VA, USA in 3 days. Even before they gave the form option, you could always specify DHL in the order comments.
Orders of less than $1000 rarely get stopped by US customs. All of mine have been correctly labeled as BITCOIN ASIC COMPUTER for S1 and S3 shipments.

Just something to consider for the future if you're a US customer.

TLDR: Multiple small orders are less likely to get stopped by US customs. Use DHL.

By ignorance and lack of funds all my previous international orders were qty 2-3. Never dawned on me that as the dollar value got higher it might draw unwanted attention and the resultant delays. Multiple small orders also prevent the hassle when the carrier "loses" the shipment.

DHL in my area is terribly undependable, can relate horror stories of DHL leaving packages in snow banks and not finding them till spring.

Just got an update, customs released the 10 B3's and UPS indicates "Scheduled Delivery Updated To: Tuesday, 07/29/2014, By End of Day". Guess we'll see.
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Just a word of warning to anyone reading this thread that may be thinking of ordering an S3. The facebook profile https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bitmaintechcom/1445280845724880 are thieves impersonating bitmaintech.com. They will try and lure you into sending them btc while promising coupons and discounts. They are a scam. They'll disappear for a short time and then reappear, still under the same UID.
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Prolimatech PK-3 Nano Aluminium Thermal

-High Thermal Conductivity
-Low Thermal Resistance
-Long-Term Stability
-Low Dry-Out
-Non-CorrosiveElectrically
-Non-Conductive
-No "burn-in" time required



Would anyone recommend this paste?  I would like to clean and replace thermal paste.  What size would I need to do 2 AntMiner s3's


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I would think this should be enough for one S3

http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-5-Thermal-Compound/dp/B0002EQU6C/

Or if you have more than 2 you probably want this one

http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Large-Size-gram/dp/B001JYVFLY/

Arctic Silver says to not use it where it may come in contact with electricity.  I haven't opened up a S3 yet, but I imagine it is easy to put some on the pins of the chips.  If so, use a carbon based one that is not conductive or capacitive.  Something like mx-4 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004ULZITS/) would work. 
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Prolimatech PK-3 Nano Aluminium Thermal

-High Thermal Conductivity
-Low Thermal Resistance
-Long-Term Stability
-Low Dry-Out
-Non-CorrosiveElectrically
-Non-Conductive
-No "burn-in" time required



Would anyone recommend this paste?  I would like to clean and replace thermal paste.  What size would I need to do 2 AntMiner s3's


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Prolimatech PK-3 is one of the top thermal adhesives on the market.
Google search thermal paste roundup if you want to research a bit more Smiley
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I might actually start this topic elsewhere at the forums.

sorry, i ddin't mean to get off topic.



I think there could be a certificate for mining with a specific miner, but that doesn't mean the person is trained to
mine with other hardware. Just that one type of hardware, such as S3 Antminer for example.

A course like that might last a week or so, and if you could get 20 students, who all paid $150 - $200 apiece,
you could make $3000-$4000 for the week being the instructor.
But they would also likely pay you for the mining hardware, and bring their own computers to the classroom for the week.
One of the final things to do in the course, i think, wouild be for the instructor to come to each students house,
and observe them set everything up to mine from scratch and then mark them on it;
and finally correct them if there are mistakes and make sure they are mining bitcoins at the end of the course.
This final step might take an additional week for the instructor, but still, good pay for a couple weeks $3000 - $4000
and all 20 students then are mining bitcoins, with more awareness than before hopefully.

But would you find 20 students? I dont know.
The cost of the mining hardware might be $400 plus the $200 cost for the class, so $600-650 dollars total for each student.

Could not resist, sorry.

Are you serious? I mean, if you are not Under Influence, you should keep yourself AWAY from mining. Honestly, try to find something else to entertain you.
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The S3 is one of the easiest to use products.

You can complain when you need to build cgminer from source and patch it in order for your stuff to work, but not about going into a webinterface and changing the ip of the unit.

This has to be done for any networked miner, so I am not sure why you think it is especially difficult.


Have any of you ever considered teaching a course about 'how to mine bitcoins with such and such hardware' ?
not on the internet, I mean, in person teaching, and making sure that the student can actually do it, and
has replicated classroom work at home.
That would be an interesting course, I would pay for it. But I would want a teacher who would actually come right over to my house to make sure I was doing it right at home too(that would be part of the final mark perhaps? )

Thats a money making idea, i think. Hey you could even give out certificates to people,
so they could then be called CERTIFIED BITCOIN MINER.

I need a course to teach me how to become a CERTIFIED BITCOIN MINER


Your idea has some merit as it would help to improve the miner image. We're generally considered a pretty inaccessible group of curmudgeons who hoard and dump. The class would have to include the cost of hardware, time, etc, so it would certainly cut into the ROI of any student who wasn't looking to get invested with at least a few thousand USD.

Otherwise there is no way the instructor would profit from his/her services while ensuring ROI for the students.  

Just wanted to jump in and express that not all students want to make ROI or profit as far as mining is concerned. There are a range of reasons for people to get involved. I prefer to work with people who are sincerely interested to know what this technology is about and expose them to the existing "beneficial" and potential future usage.

Preach it. Absolutely. I've got a guy at work who went from a few U2s on his desktop to being quite content with his small array of S1s.
The only reason I bring ROI into this case is simply to satiate the conditions outlined by the previous post.

In all honestly, you could probably fill a room with people willing to pay $35 for a lesson in BTC, mining, and send them home with a free U2.
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@bitbets
The S3 is one of the easiest to use products.

You can complain when you need to build cgminer from source and patch it in order for your stuff to work, but not about going into a webinterface and changing the ip of the unit.

This has to be done for any networked miner, so I am not sure why you think it is especially difficult.


Have any of you ever considered teaching a course about 'how to mine bitcoins with such and such hardware' ?
not on the internet, I mean, in person teaching, and making sure that the student can actually do it, and
has replicated classroom work at home.
That would be an interesting course, I would pay for it. But I would want a teacher who would actually come right over to my house to make sure I was doing it right at home too(that would be part of the final mark perhaps? )

Thats a money making idea, i think. Hey you could even give out certificates to people,
so they could then be called CERTIFIED BITCOIN MINER.

I need a course to teach me how to become a CERTIFIED BITCOIN MINER


Your idea has some merit as it would help to improve the miner image. We're generally considered a pretty inaccessible group of curmudgeons who hoard and dump. The class would have to include the cost of hardware, time, etc, so it would certainly cut into the ROI of any student who wasn't looking to get invested with at least a few thousand USD.

Otherwise there is no way the instructor would profit from his/her services while ensuring ROI for the students.  

Just wanted to jump in and express that not all students want to make ROI or profit as far as mining is concerned. There are a range of reasons for people to get involved. I prefer to work with people who are sincerely interested to know what this technology is about and expose them to the existing "beneficial" and potential future usage.
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Have any of you ever considered teaching a course about 'how to mine bitcoins with such and such hardware' ?
not on the internet, I mean, in person teaching, and making sure that the student can actually do it, and
has replicated classroom work at home.

No, because the average miner isn´t a thick (American) person unable to read a manual and / or search this forum to find the atleast two detailed setup guides.


learning on the internet is only partial learning, its not complete. that is only the reading/video part of training.
There has to be hands on training, with guidance from someone who is more experienced, else the training is lacking



...and when you poop...do you want somebody to hold your hand to wipe your ass... Grin

You are completely retarded...Just shut up, buddy... Wink

Cheers,

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No, because the average miner isn´t a thick (American) person unable to read a manual and / or search this forum to find the atleast two detailed setup guides.


learning on the internet is only partial learning, its not complete. that is only the reading/video part of training.
There has to be hands on training, with guidance from someone who is more experienced, else the training is lacking

Are you being deliberately stupid?

You don´t need hands on training to setting up a PC, do you?
Did you take a course on how to connect your router to the internet?

Hands on training to use a washing machine? (Hint, most ppl are okay with a manual).

Setting up an Antminer is actually much easier, so quit your whining.
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@bitbets
The S3 is one of the easiest to use products.

You can complain when you need to build cgminer from source and patch it in order for your stuff to work, but not about going into a webinterface and changing the ip of the unit.

This has to be done for any networked miner, so I am not sure why you think it is especially difficult.


Have any of you ever considered teaching a course about 'how to mine bitcoins with such and such hardware' ?
not on the internet, I mean, in person teaching, and making sure that the student can actually do it, and
has replicated classroom work at home.
That would be an interesting course, I would pay for it. But I would want a teacher who would actually come right over to my house to make sure I was doing it right at home too(that would be part of the final mark perhaps? )

Thats a money making idea, i think. Hey you could even give out certificates to people,
so they could then be called CERTIFIED BITCOIN MINER.

I need a course to teach me how to become a CERTIFIED BITCOIN MINER


Your idea has some merit as it would help to improve the miner image. We're generally considered a pretty inaccessible group of curmudgeons who hoard and dump. The class would have to include the cost of hardware, time, etc, so it would certainly cut into the ROI of any student who wasn't looking to get invested with at least a few thousand USD.

Otherwise there is no way the instructor would profit from his/her services while ensuring ROI for the students. 
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Have any of you ever considered teaching a course about 'how to mine bitcoins with such and such hardware' ?
not on the internet, I mean, in person teaching, and making sure that the student can actually do it, and
has replicated classroom work at home.

No, because the average miner isn´t a thick (American) person unable to read a manual and / or search this forum to find the atleast two detailed setup guides.
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You can complain when you need to build cgminer from source and patch it in order for your stuff to work

Cough. Cough. Coincraft TH miners. Cough.
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@bitbets
The S3 is one of the easiest to use products.

You can complain when you need to build cgminer from source and patch it in order for your stuff to work, but not about going into a webinterface and changing the ip of the unit.

This has to be done for any networked miner, so I am not sure why you think it is especially difficult.
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I have been looking at the explanations about how to get the S3 antminer mining bitcoins.


Bear in mind, I haven't mined at all yet, and I also am not really familiar with electronics and messing around
with power supply and such.(it doesn't come ready to mine, but I would have to get power supply stuff myself and do some kind of paper clip electrical trick etc..)

To be honest, the explanations seem fairly daunting, with room for errors being many possibilities because
of so many steps involved in getting the S3 mining bitcoins.


What do you think? Is buying an S3 Antminer a good idea for me,

or do you think I will encounter problems in one of the many steps involved, and never actually get to the point where I am ever mining bitcoins?







From what I see, I think the Antminer ISN'T USER FRIENDLY.
The fact I have to jump through numerous hoops, doing multiple steps before I ever even start to mine btc,
means I likely wouldn't make it to that point, and I just end up with a black box with some fans on it and no mining,
and wasted my money and time, without support locally to help me get the thing mining bitcoins.

Therefore, I can pay somewhat for shipping me an Antminer, so I could learn to mine bitcoins, but I wont pay for one.

So, if anyone has an Antminer they can send me, I will pay for the shipping after it arrives, and you just let me know what BTC address to pay btc to and how much.

If I can get the thing mining bitcoins for me, then I might buy one but not if I am uncertain about going through all those steps.


Basically what I am saying is, that you send me the Antminer, and then if I can get it mining bitcoins,
then I pay you for the antminer.
I think its backwards for me to have to pay for something I dont even know if it will mine bitcoins for me because its not user friendly, and I have to pay in advance for that? I wont do it.
You send me the Antminer, and I will pay you later on if it is working to mine bitcoins, but I wont pay if it isnt.



How about if I send you a black box, with a couple little fans included, and you pay me $400 in advance for it?( and it doesnt mine bitcoins, so it just sits in the corner collecting dust until the next garbage day pickup)

Dude, they are insanely easy to use.  Its not bitmains fault youre a complete idiot.

Go buy some Rboxes and hook them up to your laptop with Multiminer. You probably already have a windows PC and you CAN use AC adapters/wall-warts for power. You won't make any profit mind you, but you'll be mining BTC and its about as "user friendly" as this industry gets. Use it as a learning experience and buy some real hardware after you learn how to navigate the landscape.

http://www.amazon.com/RockMiner-R-BOX-SHA-256-Miner-ASICMiner/dp/B00KLQHSM6


if there isn't any profit, then i wont buy it.

but if you have these worthless miners sitting around, before you thrown them in the garbage,
I might pay for shipping if you send me one, as long as I can get it working to mine bitcoins, but if
not, then i wont pay for anything.

I think you may not realize it, but there are people involved in bitcoin who dont want other people mining bitcoin,
so they do all kinds of stuff to try and prevent other people from mining bitcoin because that is competition,
so its impossible to really mine bitcoin as far as I can tell

While I agree there is SOME subterfuge in the community. WHAT are you talking about with worthless miners and garbage nonsense? Impossible to mine BTC?
Not sure if troll...  Huh
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I have been looking at the explanations about how to get the S3 antminer mining bitcoins.


Bear in mind, I haven't mined at all yet, and I also am not really familiar with electronics and messing around
with power supply and such.(it doesn't come ready to mine, but I would have to get power supply stuff myself and do some kind of paper clip electrical trick etc..)

To be honest, the explanations seem fairly daunting, with room for errors being many possibilities because
of so many steps involved in getting the S3 mining bitcoins.


What do you think? Is buying an S3 Antminer a good idea for me,

or do you think I will encounter problems in one of the many steps involved, and never actually get to the point where I am ever mining bitcoins?







From what I see, I think the Antminer ISN'T USER FRIENDLY.
The fact I have to jump through numerous hoops, doing multiple steps before I ever even start to mine btc,
means I likely wouldn't make it to that point, and I just end up with a black box with some fans on it and no mining,
and wasted my money and time, without support locally to help me get the thing mining bitcoins.

Therefore, I can pay somewhat for shipping me an Antminer, so I could learn to mine bitcoins, but I wont pay for one.

So, if anyone has an Antminer they can send me, I will pay for the shipping after it arrives, and you just let me know what BTC address to pay btc to and how much.

If I can get the thing mining bitcoins for me, then I might buy one but not if I am uncertain about going through all those steps.


Basically what I am saying is, that you send me the Antminer, and then if I can get it mining bitcoins,
then I pay you for the antminer.
I think its backwards for me to have to pay for something I dont even know if it will mine bitcoins for me because its not user friendly, and I have to pay in advance for that? I wont do it.
You send me the Antminer, and I will pay you later on if it is working to mine bitcoins, but I wont pay if it isnt.



How about if I send you a black box, with a couple little fans included, and you pay me $400 in advance for it?( and it doesnt mine bitcoins, so it just sits in the corner collecting dust until the next garbage day pickup)

Dude, they are insanely easy to use.  Its not bitmains fault youre a complete idiot.

Go buy some Rboxes and hook them up to your laptop with Multiminer. You probably already have a windows PC and you CAN use AC adapters/wall-warts for power. You won't make any profit mind you, but you'll be mining BTC and its about as "user friendly" as this industry gets. Use it as a learning experience and buy some real hardware after you learn how to navigate the landscape.

http://www.amazon.com/RockMiner-R-BOX-SHA-256-Miner-ASICMiner/dp/B00KLQHSM6
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I have been looking at the explanations about how to get the S3 antminer mining bitcoins.


Bear in mind, I haven't mined at all yet, and I also am not really familiar with electronics and messing around
with power supply and such.(it doesn't come ready to mine, but I would have to get power supply stuff myself and do some kind of paper clip electrical trick etc..)

To be honest, the explanations seem fairly daunting, with room for errors being many possibilities because
of so many steps involved in getting the S3 mining bitcoins.


What do you think? Is buying an S3 Antminer a good idea for me,

or do you think I will encounter problems in one of the many steps involved, and never actually get to the point where I am ever mining bitcoins?







From what I see, I think the Antminer ISN'T USER FRIENDLY.
The fact I have to jump through numerous hoops, doing multiple steps before I ever even start to mine btc,
means I likely wouldn't make it to that point, and I just end up with a black box with some fans on it and no mining,
and wasted my money and time, without support locally to help me get the thing mining bitcoins.

Therefore, I can pay somewhat for shipping me an Antminer, so I could learn to mine bitcoins, but I wont pay for one.

So, if anyone has an Antminer they can send me, I will pay for the shipping after it arrives, and you just let me know what BTC address to pay btc to and how much.

If I can get the thing mining bitcoins for me, then I might buy one but not if I am uncertain about going through all those steps.


Basically what I am saying is, that you send me the Antminer, and then if I can get it mining bitcoins,
then I pay you for the antminer.
I think its backwards for me to have to pay for something I dont even know if it will mine bitcoins for me because its not user friendly, and I have to pay in advance for that? I wont do it.
You send me the Antminer, and I will pay you later on if it is working to mine bitcoins, but I wont pay if it isnt.



How about if I send you a black box, with a couple little fans included, and you pay me $400 in advance for it?( and it doesnt mine bitcoins, so it just sits in the corner collecting dust until the next garbage day pickup)

Dude, they are insanely easy to use.  Its not bitmains fault youre a complete idiot.

In case you missed it. I have updated the speculative hardware return.



Here is a link to the shared document for you to review. I keep it updated and try to add comments to FAQ in the fields.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmeuPljmUNHCdEpqX2RmMDFwemJyLURVUWFtZ3J3aGc&usp=sharing
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I have been looking at the explanations about how to get the S3 antminer mining bitcoins.


Bear in mind, I haven't mined at all yet, and I also am not really familiar with electronics and messing around
with power supply and such.(it doesn't come ready to mine, but I would have to get power supply stuff myself and do some kind of paper clip electrical trick etc..)

To be honest, the explanations seem fairly daunting, with room for errors being many possibilities because
of so many steps involved in getting the S3 mining bitcoins.


What do you think? Is buying an S3 Antminer a good idea for me,

or do you think I will encounter problems in one of the many steps involved, and never actually get to the point where I am ever mining bitcoins?







From what I see, I think the Antminer ISN'T USER FRIENDLY.
The fact I have to jump through numerous hoops, doing multiple steps before I ever even start to mine btc,
means I likely wouldn't make it to that point, and I just end up with a black box with some fans on it and no mining,
and wasted my money and time, without support locally to help me get the thing mining bitcoins.

Therefore, I can pay somewhat for shipping me an Antminer, so I could learn to mine bitcoins, but I wont pay for one.

So, if anyone has an Antminer they can send me, I will pay for the shipping after it arrives, and you just let me know what BTC address to pay btc to and how much.

If I can get the thing mining bitcoins for me, then I might buy one but not if I am uncertain about going through all those steps.


Basically what I am saying is, that you send me the Antminer, and then if I can get it mining bitcoins,
then I pay you for the antminer.
I think its backwards for me to have to pay for something I dont even know if it will mine bitcoins for me because its not user friendly, and I have to pay in advance for that? I wont do it.
You send me the Antminer, and I will pay you later on if it is working to mine bitcoins, but I wont pay if it isnt.



How about if I send you a black box, with a couple little fans included, and you pay me $400 in advance for it?( and it doesnt mine bitcoins, so it just sits in the corner collecting dust until the next garbage day pickup)

Dude, they are insanely easy to use.  Its not bitmains fault youre a complete idiot.
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Prolimatech PK-3 Nano Aluminium Thermal

-High Thermal Conductivity
-Low Thermal Resistance
-Long-Term Stability
-Low Dry-Out
-Non-CorrosiveElectrically
-Non-Conductive
-No "burn-in" time required



Would anyone recommend this paste?  I would like to clean and replace thermal paste.  What size would I need to do 2 AntMiner s3's


BTCBTC
DoubleDD

I would think this should be enough for one S3

http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-5-Thermal-Compound/dp/B0002EQU6C/

Or if you have more than 2 you probably want this one

http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Large-Size-gram/dp/B001JYVFLY/
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