Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 432. (Read 710164 times)

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2014, 10:20:47 PM

Quote from: mrpark on July 20, 2014, 09:41:38 AM

Dogie's comprehensive setup guide now up in super HD!

Thanks for this. Very helpful!

I was wondering why my PSUs did not turn on. Wasn't aware of the need to jumper it. I guess I missed that if it was covered in this thread.

Now if my batch 3 units would just ship...

If you are usa based here is a good item on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261302980079?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I purchased about ten of them from him.

Phill...you are funny some times... Grin

..."If you are usa based here is a good item on ~~ebay~~" ...Office Depot...

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/966945/OIC-No-1-Paper-Clips-Standard/

Good for a 100 PSU's... Wink

Cheers,

ZiG

I would say a scathing insult about using paperclips. But it is your gear and your money.

I won't use paper clips.
I won't use server psu's.

same reason for either of the above. shock/short hazard.

I sale my gear used and tested on ebay or to local miners.

So I don't sell gear that has short/shock hazards.

Oh the scathing insult is don't be "stupid cheap" or better known as : "pennywise pound foolish" and those paperclips would fit that bill. as would the server psu's in any home with kids or pets.

I think there is a slight misunderstanding here:

1) Phil resells some fraction of his stuff, so he uses something that has a veneer of being CE, UL compliant because he will sell to noobs. Ther is no need to dump on his method.

2) The paper clip shorting plug solution is functionally ok. With a pair of wire cutters you can get 2 - 4 "shorting plugs". If you are worried about shorting something out, cut a 1" length of electrical tape and cover or if you want to go broadway, couldn't you urethane coat the exposed part.

I'm a paperclip person because it's fast, reliable and cheap for me.

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People who say anything about not meeting ROI are ignorant. How can you comment on ROI when you have no idea what the cost of bitcoin will be next week, next month, etc.

You should measure your ROI in BTC, not $. I paid 1.5 BTC for these 2 S3's. I am doubting they will end up mining that much. The fiat value of BTC now or after 3 months of running these units matters little to me.

I think once you are in the crypto world long enough or deep enough, you start thinking of the cost of everything in BTC. I am about to buy a house, only 30,000$, so a steal really. But my mind immediately did some quick math and I thought "shit, this thing is gonna cost me nearly 50 BTC. This will sting a bit".

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Quote from: bitmutiny on July 19, 2014, 06:35:08 PM

3 S3's received on the 17th. Set them all up with 750w PSU's of various sort.

First 24 hours all 3 OC'd to 250 mhz and getting about 500gh/s each. stoked!

After about 28 hours, notice one "x" on the first S3. Rebooted, went away for about ten minutes them returned. Average hashrate dropped to 470ghs. Set it down to 237.5, all "o" and getting about 475 ghs average, little more on poolside. I'lll take it!

A bit concerned that one has temps of 46 sometimes, during hotter times of the day. Is this too hot to maintain?

Ihave these temperatures as normal in the part of the world am located with normal settings so no worries

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: Aureum_Coffee on July 20, 2014, 11:37:53 PM

Quote from: Biodom on July 20, 2014, 03:46:03 PM

Quote from: Aureum_Coffee on July 20, 2014, 03:21:24 PM

I want to report in on my findings, running a pair of S3.
One gets consistent 430GH over 1 day, 6 hours. Default clock speed
The other one gets consistent 410 GH over 1 day, 6 hours. Default clock speed

I've rebooted the slower one several times, and all chips show OK status. They are on independent power supplies. Only one miner per 700W power supply.

Only upside is temperature is consistently below 40.

did you try to ssh into it and change to 212.5 (as philipma did)?
(comment on 218.75 with # and uncomment 212.5)

Good tip. I will try that.

I also notice there is a lot of discarded shares. And 225 and 218.75 frequencies all have the same time out values. I wonder if setting lower time out values with higher frequencies will help reducing discarded shares.

Anyone tried that yet?

No but My discards are very good at 212.5.

I think I may try your idea tomorrow.

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Yall sure know how too waste a good paperclip, me, I just reuse a hand full of old staples, have plenty of'em, I prefer the old tin type that've been out in the street an run over a few times and are all good an crusty!

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2014, 11:36:40 PM

Quote from: bobsag3 on July 20, 2014, 11:10:58 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2014, 10:58:14 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2014, 10:20:47 PM

Quote from: Biodom on July 20, 2014, 03:46:03 PM

Dogie's comprehensive setup guide now up in super HD!

Thanks for this. Very helpful!

I was wondering why my PSUs did not turn on. Wasn't aware of the need to jumper it. I guess I missed that if it was covered in this thread.

Now if my batch 3 units would just ship...

If you are usa based here is a good item on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261302980079?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I purchased about ten of them from him.

Phill...you are funny some times... Grin

..."If you are usa based here is a good item on ~~ebay~~" ...Office Depot...

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/966945/OIC-No-1-Paper-Clips-Standard/

Good for a 100 PSU's... Wink

Cheers,

ZiG

I would say a scathing insult about using paperclips. But it is your gear and your money.

I won't use paper clips.
I won't use server psu's.

same reason for either of the above. shock/short hazard.

I sale my gear used and tested on ebay or to local miners.

So I don't sell gear that has short/shock hazards.

Oh the scathing insult is don't be "stupid cheap" or better known as : "pennywise pound foolish" and those paperclips would fit that bill. as would the server psu's in any home with kids or pets.

How would server PSUs in any way be dangerous? If anything they are safer due to much higher build quality and higher quality components.

the break out boards have exposed solder points crossing a neg to a positive is possible

Easily fixed with any number of less than $3 off the shelf solutions, and you could make the same argument that someone could cross wires on a ATX supply. I dont have to worry about my cables being too thin for the load, or crappy components blowing under 100% load- these dells can do 110-120% load for months at a time without issues

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Quote from: Aureum_Coffee on July 20, 2014, 03:21:24 PM

I want to report in on my findings, running a pair of S3.
One gets consistent 430GH over 1 day, 6 hours. Default clock speed
The other one gets consistent 410 GH over 1 day, 6 hours. Default clock speed

I've rebooted the slower one several times, and all chips show OK status. They are on independent power supplies. Only one miner per 700W power supply.

Only upside is temperature is consistently below 40.

did you try to ssh into it and change to 212.5 (as philipma did)?
(comment on 218.75 with # and uncomment 212.5)

Good tip. I will try that.

I also notice there is a lot of discarded shares. And 225 and 218.75 frequencies all have the same time out values. I wonder if setting lower time out values with higher frequencies will help reducing discarded shares.

Anyone tried that yet?

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: bobsag3 on July 20, 2014, 11:10:58 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2014, 10:58:14 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2014, 10:20:47 PM

Quote from: TracerX on July 20, 2014, 10:39:57 AM

Dogie's comprehensive setup guide now up in super HD!

Thanks for this. Very helpful!

I was wondering why my PSUs did not turn on. Wasn't aware of the need to jumper it. I guess I missed that if it was covered in this thread.

Now if my batch 3 units would just ship...

If you are usa based here is a good item on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261302980079?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I purchased about ten of them from him.

Phill...you are funny some times... Grin

..."If you are usa based here is a good item on ~~ebay~~" ...Office Depot...

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/966945/OIC-No-1-Paper-Clips-Standard/

Good for a 100 PSU's... Wink

Cheers,

ZiG

I would say a scathing insult about using paperclips. But it is your gear and your money.

I won't use paper clips.
I won't use server psu's.

same reason for either of the above. shock/short hazard.

I sale my gear used and tested on ebay or to local miners.

So I don't sell gear that has short/shock hazards.

Oh the scathing insult is don't be "stupid cheap" or better known as : "pennywise pound foolish" and those paperclips would fit that bill. as would the server psu's in any home with kids or pets.

How would server PSUs in any way be dangerous? If anything they are safer due to much higher build quality and higher quality components.

the break out boards have exposed solder points crossing a neg to a positive is possible.

this board is a shock hazard

http://btcminer.com.au/product/dell-750-watt-server-supply-breakout-board/

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Quote from: bitcoinfansclub on July 20, 2014, 10:36:56 AM

In case of modular PSU do i need to connect the papercllip togheter in any case? How can i do in a batter way?

You'll still need to connect the paperclip, yes. I believe Minersource has a "Jumpstart" kit that has a toggle switch, but you would have to decide if that's a better way.

The EVGA 1300's are now shipping with a 24 pin snap connector with the correct 2 pins jumpered for us miners.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2014, 10:58:14 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2014, 10:20:47 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2014, 10:58:14 PM

Dogie's comprehensive setup guide now up in super HD!

Thanks for this. Very helpful!

I was wondering why my PSUs did not turn on. Wasn't aware of the need to jumper it. I guess I missed that if it was covered in this thread.

Now if my batch 3 units would just ship...

If you are usa based here is a good item on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261302980079?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I purchased about ten of them from him.

Phill...you are funny some times... Grin

..."If you are usa based here is a good item on ~~ebay~~" ...Office Depot...

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/966945/OIC-No-1-Paper-Clips-Standard/

Good for a 100 PSU's... Wink

Cheers,

ZiG

I would say a scathing insult about using paperclips. But it is your gear and your money.

I won't use paper clips.
I won't use server psu's.

same reason for either of the above. shock/short hazard.

I sale my gear used and tested on ebay or to local miners.

So I don't sell gear that has short/shock hazards.

Oh the scathing insult is don't be "stupid cheap" or better known as : "pennywise pound foolish" and those paperclips would fit that bill. as would the server psu's in any home with kids or pets.

"Phill...you are funny some times... Grin

"

Phill...I am a real retard ...computer engineer ...with 30+ years experience...

Could you elaborate on ..."gear that has short/shock hazards" ...using the "paper clip method" to start PC PSU... Huh

...or we ...me and you... are just wasting our...and other's people time here... Grin

Cheers, Phill....

ZiG

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2014, 10:20:47 PM

Dogie's comprehensive setup guide now up in super HD!

Thanks for this. Very helpful!

I was wondering why my PSUs did not turn on. Wasn't aware of the need to jumper it. I guess I missed that if it was covered in this thread.

Now if my batch 3 units would just ship...

If you are usa based here is a good item on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261302980079?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I purchased about ten of them from him.

Phill...you are funny some times... Grin

..."If you are usa based here is a good item on ~~ebay~~" ...Office Depot...

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/966945/OIC-No-1-Paper-Clips-Standard/

Good for a 100 PSU's... Wink

Cheers,

ZiG

I would say a scathing insult about using paperclips. But it is your gear and your money.

I won't use paper clips.
I won't use server psu's.

same reason for either of the above. shock/short hazard.

I sale my gear used and tested on ebay or to local miners.

So I don't sell gear that has short/shock hazards.

Oh the scathing insult is don't be "stupid cheap" or better known as : "pennywise pound foolish" and those paperclips would fit that bill. as would the server psu's in any home with kids or pets.

How would server PSUs in any way be dangerous? If anything they are safer due to much higher build quality and higher quality components.

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2014, 10:20:47 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 20, 2014, 10:20:47 PM

Dogie's comprehensive setup guide now up in super HD!

Thanks for this. Very helpful!

I was wondering why my PSUs did not turn on. Wasn't aware of the need to jumper it. I guess I missed that if it was covered in this thread.

Now if my batch 3 units would just ship...

If you are usa based here is a good item on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261302980079?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I purchased about ten of them from him.

Phill...you are funny some times... Grin

..."If you are usa based here is a good item on ~~ebay~~" ...Office Depot...

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/966945/OIC-No-1-Paper-Clips-Standard/

Good for a 100 PSU's... Wink

Cheers,

ZiG

I would say a scathing insult about using paperclips. But it is your gear and your money.

I won't use paper clips.
I won't use server psu's.

same reason for either of the above. shock/short hazard.

I sale my gear used and tested on ebay or to local miners.

So I don't sell gear that has short/shock hazards.

Oh the scathing insult is don't be "stupid cheap" or better known as : "pennywise pound foolish" and those paperclips would fit that bill. as would the server psu's in any home with kids or pets.

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LMAO

priceless

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Dogie's comprehensive setup guide now up in super HD!

Thanks for this. Very helpful!

I was wondering why my PSUs did not turn on. Wasn't aware of the need to jumper it. I guess I missed that if it was covered in this thread.

Now if my batch 3 units would just ship...

If you are usa based here is a good item on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261302980079?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I purchased about ten of them from him.

Phill...you are funny some times... Grin

..."If you are usa based here is a good item on ~~ebay~~" ...Office Depot...

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/966945/OIC-No-1-Paper-Clips-Standard/

Good for a 100 PSU's... Wink

Cheers,

ZiG

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Dogie's comprehensive setup guide now up in super HD!

Thanks for this. Very helpful!

I was wondering why my PSUs did not turn on. Wasn't aware of the need to jumper it. I guess I missed that if it was covered in this thread.

Now if my batch 3 units would just ship...

If you are usa based here is a good item on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261302980079?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I purchased about ten of them from him.

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