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Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 433. (Read 710164 times)

newbie
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I bought three Antminer S3 and so have three coupons worth 0.074 BTC each. Will I be able to apply all of them to the purchase of one more device, or is it a one-coupon-per-purchase deal?

According to Bitmain it's one coupon per miner. So if you buy three more miners you can use your three coupons.
sr. member
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has anyone gotten the s3 refunds that were promised yet?
sr. member
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People who say anything about not meeting ROI are ignorant. How can you comment on ROI when you have no idea what the cost of bitcoin will be next week, next month, etc.

Terrible way to look at anything.  Just because you don't know things to certain doesn't mean you should be analytical and use the best data available to make a thoughtful decision.

Dont mistake not knowing everything with not knowing anything.

The cost of bitcoin has nothing to do with ROI, unless you pay in dollars.

It is relatively simple. over a period of time t, you spend x bitcoins on electricity, you make y bitcoins, and you spend z bitcoins on the purchase.

Then if  y - x > z you have ROI, if y -x = z break even, and if z > y -x over a period t you have a loss.
t is usually 6 weeks.

if you take electricity out of the equation it is even simpler, for roi to occur in a given period of time y > z it is that simple.

to calculate y you can use any calculator that takes into consideration the difficulty increases.

so if bitcoin goes to a 10000, it has nothing to do with roi, since the miner is being being purchased in bitcoins.

the S3 is borderline, it may not roi if difficulty increases at current rate, and since we do not yet know the price of next batch of S3 it will all depend on the price given for the S3, most other miners do not ROI. pre orders do not ROI since it is very difficult tu calculate the difficulty 6 month in advance, or a year in advance. BFL takes over a year to deliver, KNC over half a year from time of order, most take several months situation which is not acceptable.

Since the S3 is selling out at current price, my prediction is that it will not roi by a small margin, until sales slow down then it may be priced at a price in which it may ROI or maybe not since bitmain could start mining themselves. that is why it is very important to support vendors that do not mine themselves and do not have pre orders, currently that does not exist, but in near future it could be a reality.
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Everybody has their own plans ,I was hoping to overclock the heck out of them to take advantage of the present difficulty factor which I'm afraid will begin to soar once all the new machines hit the network.
My S1's will soon have to be underclock to remain profitable so I was hoping for a big boost from mu S3's.
sr. member
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I use rm650 gold with one s3  I find that the hw is very low but  Hw is getting high abit when sharing a pus 750 on 2 s3 at default speed
newbie
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People who say anything about not meeting ROI are ignorant. How can you comment on ROI when you have no idea what the cost of bitcoin will be next week, next month, etc.

mpark the proper way to factor ROI on any miner actually doesn't involve the conversion price of BTC to some other random currency.  If you pay XBTC for a miner and in it's life it generates >X (plus costs) then the miner profited.  If you buy a miner for 1BTC when it's at say $500 and it makes .5BTC but the coin doubles to $1k have you broken even?  If you believe you have you are allowing yourself to be blinded.

... is there anything that ROI in BTC?... dont see much of a future for home mining... just for manufacturers.


what if bought the btc to buy the miner. lol you guys kill me
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Well I guess since these cant overclock ( yet ) it's a mute point,
Thanks

Has anyone identified the sub par part that they used ?

DC Voltage regulator Ti TPS53355...30A ... Wink

ZiG

The Part is OK...the engineering / design is SUB PAR... Grin

Well I guess that's the reason THEY didn't fix it..
I'm sure someone will start a cottage industry soon to modify these things and get them back on track.
After all everybody that bought them was planning on starting their overclock from 478

not every one of us wants to overclock  the first 2 I purchased  I planned to downclock to 400-430 gh.

 I had a reason for this.  I can run up to 800 watts at a friends office .. It must be quiet .

So 2 machines clocked to 212.5  give me about 860gh  pull about  630-640 watts and run quietly.

The power cost for these machines = about 3 cents a k-watt

So the batch 1 buy and quality was perfect in my case.

   I also earned coupons.  that I will spend for batch 4 .  I want to overclock them!!   I want to get 500gh for 380=400 watts.
So far the first buy was good for anyone that had a power limit and noise issue.

I am scouting for a few other spots to set my gear up other then my garage (batch 4  goes in the garage)
full member
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Well I guess since these cant overclock ( yet ) it's a mute point,
Thanks

Has anyone identified the sub par part that they used ?

DC Voltage regulator Ti TPS53355...30A ... Wink

ZiG

The Part is OK...the engineering / design is SUB PAR... Grin

Well I guess that's the reason THEY didn't fix it..
I'm sure someone will start a cottage industry soon to modify these things and get them back on track.
After all everybody that bought them was planning on starting their overclock from 478
member
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People who say anything about not meeting ROI are ignorant. How can you comment on ROI when you have no idea what the cost of bitcoin will be next week, next month, etc.

mpark the proper way to factor ROI on any miner actually doesn't involve the conversion price of BTC to some other random currency.  If you pay XBTC for a miner and in it's life it generates >X (plus costs) then the miner profited.  If you buy a miner for 1BTC when it's at say $500 and it makes .5BTC but the coin doubles to $1k have you broken even?  If you believe you have you are allowing yourself to be blinded.

... is there anything that ROI in BTC?... dont see much of a future for home mining... just for manufacturers.
ZiG
sr. member
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Well I guess since these cant overclock ( yet ) it's a mute point,
Thanks

Has anyone identified the sub par part that they used ?

DC Voltage regulator Ti TPS53355...30A ... Wink

ZiG

The Part is OK...the engineering / design is SUB PAR... Grin
legendary
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Anyone hear anything on when batch 4 will be available to purchase?

Probably only after all batch 1,2 and 3 orders have been filled and shipped
full member
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Well I guess since these cant overclock ( yet ) it's a mute point,
Thanks

Has anyone identified the sub par part that they used ?
newbie
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Anyone hear anything on when batch 4 will be available to purchase?
newbie
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Try user name Wolframio.1 instead of Wolframio.worker1

Very dumb recommendations.  Wolframio.worker1 is right.

"worker1" for bitcoin.cz - sure.
And don´t wonder if we start to laugh. We are just a happy crowd here Wink

#facepalm
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
So ... what is this random beeping all about from the S3's?

Every now and then I hear a beep, not sure if it's always from the same miner ... and neither of them ever switch over to a fall-back pool, so connectivity seems OK.

It's just a single beep, so contact with the pool/internet doesn't seem to have been lost.



here is my guide to reducing the sound of the beep


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-few-photos-of-how-to-make-the-s-3-beep-less-annoying-701338

1) reboot = beep  - yes

2) pool switch via gui = beep -yes

3) auto pool switch due to a pool crash = beep - yes

4) hardware error = beep - ?

5) other  reasons = unknown


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bobsav2121 if you over clock  you need 4 pcie connectors.

the reason is a 6 pin pcie wire  is not rated to carry 200 watts  many s-1's melted pcie wires when over clocked
full member
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I have a question.
Why did Bitmain put 4 power connectors on these S3's if you dont need them ?
Usually they try to save every nickle they can, why engineer something in that's not needed. ?

Bob
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
i am wondering how much power the S3 will use on the server style power supplies anyone check the power usage on these? the cheap ones. i just wanna know it worth paying more for a gold or plat.

^depends. If you can do server gear for <1/2 the cost of a gold supply its worth it IMO. But if you can get a good deal on an ATX supply it might be a better long-term investment
newbie
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i am wondering how much power the S3 will use on the server style power supplies anyone check the power usage on these? the cheap ones. i just wanna know it worth paying more for a gold or plat.
legendary
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and the last one beeps once in a hour.  

Lol, Bitmain made a bitcoin miner clock  Cheesy




strangely, but the beep does not bother me one bit since it is in one of the bedrooms upstairs.
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