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Topic: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread - page 130. (Read 301481 times)

legendary
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dogiecoin.com
October 09, 2014, 06:57:09 PM

Wow that's the shipping price for 2 units?  I wonder if it goes up for more.  I can't imagine people buying them yet I'm sure they will manage to sell out again.

It will go up for more, yes. The domestic market will take more of a share due to shipping when the btc price is low.
legendary
Activity: 1096
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October 09, 2014, 06:11:54 PM

Wow that's the shipping price for 2 units?  I wonder if it goes up for more.  I can't imagine people buying them yet I'm sure they will manage to sell out again.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
October 09, 2014, 06:04:28 PM
hello everybody,
I've paid for 2 s4 batch 1 that received last friday. Both of them were working ok with default parameters (not overclocked yet) until yesterday night that one of them was powered down and now I'm not able to power on it again. I've tried unplug the wire, changing the wires between them, but the result continue to be that this machine doesn't work.
Any suggestion please?
Thanks in advance.



I had a power unit go down last weekend. 
Contact Yoshi at [email protected], or call.  They are working out of Denver:

Bitmain Warranty
3700 Quebec St. #100239
Denver, Colorado 80207

Tel: 844-248-6246

They will help you get your unit fixed.
Thanks captjrc

While you're waiting, you could try plugging in a different PSU to the controller board and to one mining board. If that seems fine, or you have a large enough PSU you could test the entire unit with it. Does sound like a PSU problem.
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
October 09, 2014, 04:53:10 PM
I can report that the binary drops in and replaces the old one, matches the architecture, and runs without exploding in a ball of flames!

So I've pointed my S4, running this new binay, back at Slush's pool to see how it goes.  Probably too soon to tell, but initially it reported hashing over 2TH via the web ui (as it always does) while Slush was showing it doing only about ~450GH, poolside.

After a few minutes that climbed up to and settled around 1TH and has been sitting there.

The Web UI also reports the Diff column (of the Slush row in the Pools table) as 1.05K, but I'm not sure if that indicates a problem...

I also dug into the init script to see what comman line params it gets run with, and they are:

Code:
  /usr/bin/cgminer --bitmain-dev /dev/bitmain-asic \
    --bitmain-options 115200:32:8:7:200:0782:0725 \
    --bitmain-checkn2diff \
    --bitmain-hwerror \
    --queue 8192 \
    --api-listen \
    --default-config /config/cgminer.conf

and: root@ant:~# cat /config/cgminer.conf contains:
Code:
{
  "pools" : [
    {
      "url" : "stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333",
      "user" : "gigawatt.ant-bambam",
      "pass" : "x"
    },
    {
      "url" : "",
      "user" : "",
      "pass" : ""
    },
    {
      "url" : "",
      "user" : "",
      "pass" : ""
    }
  ],
  "api-listen" : true,
  "api-network" : true,
  "api-allow" : "W:0/0",
  "bitmain-nobeeper" : true,
  "bitmain-freq" : "7:218.75:1106",
  "bitmain-voltage" : "0725"
}

What the heck does the --bitmain-checkn2diff option do (play chicken with the diff? lol) google not so helpful here, not was the cgminer readme.

I tried adding --suggest-diff 2048 (as one google search result suggested) but that command line option was rejected by cgminer as "unrecognized" {sniff}

Well, glad it works for starters. At least we know it managed to get up to higher diff which was half the problem to begin with. I doubt that getting it to diff 2k would help any further. So if it hashes lower than that then there's still some remaining issue, and likely it's the choice of a halfway diff. Checkn2diff is a hack used by the slow bitmain products to round off diff to the nearest power of 2 since they're so slow at confirming hashes. There's a chance it may not be needed with the hack I added to the driver, so try removing that command line option. As for suggest_diff, only ckpools have that implemented at the pool end anyway so I didn't bother adding it to the driver (though it's easy enough for me to do). So try without checkn2diff next.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
October 09, 2014, 12:58:33 PM
I have a simple question how are these doing powerwise?  on 120 volt and on 220 volt.

are they 1400 watts for 2th on btcguild? at setting 725

I ask because I do not see a lot of info on power draw.

Mine runs well over 1300 watts but I've never seen it reach 1400.

  circuit: standard household 120v
  asic miner voltage: 0.725v
  asic clock freq: 218.5 MHz (the highest I can overclock it without getting little x's of chip errors)

hope this helps,

-dave
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
October 09, 2014, 12:51:52 PM
I call it The Hot Blast Redirectenator
[...]
What do you think?

Nice. Personally, I had to install some miners outside of the house, hidden from the neighbourhood of course. Can't wait for winter to arrive... Lol! Now you gave me some ideas to connect my miners to my central heat system.

Btw, don't leave your kill-a-watt plugged in all the time, mine got really hot and broke!

Yikes!  That's good to know, thanks!

I did notice it had warmed up quite a bit when I left in connected to the S4's 1300+watts for a few hours.

Right now its been sitting between the S3's and their 868 watts for a few days and its still cool as a cucumber tho  Cool

thanks,

-dave
member
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Merit: 10
October 09, 2014, 12:43:25 PM
Thanks, that's all anyone can ask!
Fudged my way through a cross compile, wedged shit in here and there, patched stuff, moved stuff around, can't remember what I did, but here's a binary:

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s4/4.6.1-141009/cgminer

I have no idea if it really is for the right architecture, where you stick it on their filesystem or what to make it work or if it will just explode in a ball of flames, but there it is.

Awesome, Thanks!

I can report that the binary drops in and replaces the old one, matches the architecture, and runs without exploding in a ball of flames!

So I've pointed my S4, running this new binay, back at Slush's pool to see how it goes.  Probably too soon to tell, but initially it reported hashing over 2TH via the web ui (as it always does) while Slush was showing it doing only about ~450GH, poolside.

After a few minutes that climbed up to and settled around 1TH and has been sitting there.

The Web UI also reports the Diff column (of the Slush row in the Pools table) as 1.05K, but I'm not sure if that indicates a problem...

I also dug into the init script to see what comman line params it gets run with, and they are:

Code:
  /usr/bin/cgminer --bitmain-dev /dev/bitmain-asic \
    --bitmain-options 115200:32:8:7:200:0782:0725 \
    --bitmain-checkn2diff \
    --bitmain-hwerror \
    --queue 8192 \
    --api-listen \
    --default-config /config/cgminer.conf

and: root@ant:~# cat /config/cgminer.conf contains:
Code:
{
  "pools" : [
    {
      "url" : "stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333",
      "user" : "gigawatt.ant-bambam",
      "pass" : "x"
    },
    {
      "url" : "",
      "user" : "",
      "pass" : ""
    },
    {
      "url" : "",
      "user" : "",
      "pass" : ""
    }
  ],
  "api-listen" : true,
  "api-network" : true,
  "api-allow" : "W:0/0",
  "bitmain-nobeeper" : true,
  "bitmain-freq" : "7:218.75:1106",
  "bitmain-voltage" : "0725"
}

What the heck does the --bitmain-checkn2diff option do (play chicken with the diff? lol) google not so helpful here, not was the cgminer readme.

I tried adding --suggest-diff 2048 (as one google search result suggested) but that command line option was rejected by cgminer as "unrecognized" {sniff}

As always, let us not forget that:

This code is provided entirely free of charge by the programmer in his spare
time so donations would be greatly appreciated. Please consider donating to the
address below.

Con Kolivas <[email protected]>
15qSxP1SQcUX3o4nhkfdbgyoWEFMomJ4rZ

thanks,

-dave (hoping a few hours will clear this up now)

full member
Activity: 237
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Smile while thinking.
October 09, 2014, 12:15:23 PM
Making progress on the heat removal front!

I call it The Hot Blast Redirectenator.  Got it at Home Depot.  (That is foil tape, absolutely required, amazing stuff!)

https://i.imgur.com/68gG5bw.jpg

And this is its Chimney:

https://i.imgur.com/oHXUhVz.jpg

Both the S4 and his two little brother S3's exhaust heat out through a hole in my basement wall (was for a clothes dryer exhaust).  I also have an inline fan that pulls 240 cubic feet per minute, to help push the air flow through the reducers and out the smallish 4" hole, but am not using it yet. 

As the weather gets colder of course, I will rearrange this a bit to let me pipe all that heat inside, possibly upstairs into the main living areas of the house, and then probably use the hole in the exterior wall (and perhaps the fan) to pull in cold air from outside, to lower the ambient temperature inside the closet.

I think the S4 might be able to heat this whole ~2,000 sqft house all by itself!  It's certainly made the entire downstairs half unbearably hot this past week with little to no help from Mother Nature at all...

What do you think?

-dave

Nice. Personally, I had to install some miners outside of the house, hidden from the neighbourhood of course. Can't wait for winter to arrive... Lol! Now you gave me some ideas to connect my miners to my central heat system.

Btw, don't leave your kill-a-watt plugged in all the time, mine got really hot and broke!
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
October 09, 2014, 10:47:08 AM
hello everybody,
I've paid for 2 s4 batch 1 that received last friday. Both of them were working ok with default parameters (not overclocked yet) until yesterday night that one of them was powered down and now I'm not able to power on it again. I've tried unplug the wire, changing the wires between them, but the result continue to be that this machine doesn't work.
Any suggestion please?
Thanks in advance.



I had a power unit go down last weekend. 
Contact Yoshi at [email protected], or call.  They are working out of Denver:

Bitmain Warranty
3700 Quebec St. #100239
Denver, Colorado 80207

Tel: 844-248-6246

They will help you get your unit fixed.
Thanks captjrc
yxt
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 1116
October 09, 2014, 09:26:31 AM
http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s4/4.6.1-141009/cgminer

or if it will just explode in a ball of flames, but there it is.

sounds like fun, I'm in
badass flying spaghetti monster Cool
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
October 09, 2014, 09:17:57 AM
hello everybody,
I've paid for 2 s4 batch 1 that received last friday. Both of them were working ok with default parameters (not overclocked yet) until yesterday night that one of them was powered down and now I'm not able to power on it again. I've tried unplug the wire, changing the wires between them, but the result continue to be that this machine doesn't work.
Any suggestion please?
Thanks in advance.



I had a power unit go down last weekend. 
Contact Yoshi at [email protected], or call.  They are working out of Denver:

Bitmain Warranty
3700 Quebec St. #100239
Denver, Colorado 80207

Tel: 844-248-6246

They will help you get your unit fixed.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
October 09, 2014, 08:49:04 AM
Making progress on the heat removal front!

I call it The Hot Blast Redirectenator.  Got it at Home Depot.  (That is foil tape, absolutely required, amazing stuff!)



And this is its Chimney:



Both the S4 and his two little brother S3's exhaust heat out through a hole in my basement wall (was for a clothes dryer exhaust).  I also have an inline fan that pulls 240 cubic feet per minute, to help push the air flow through the reducers and out the smallish 4" hole, but am not using it yet. 

As the weather gets colder of course, I will rearrange this a bit to let me pipe all that heat inside, possibly upstairs into the main living areas of the house, and then probably use the hole in the exterior wall (and perhaps the fan) to pull in cold air from outside, to lower the ambient temperature inside the closet.

I think the S4 might be able to heat this whole ~2,000 sqft house all by itself!  It's certainly made the entire downstairs half unbearably hot this past week with little to no help from Mother Nature at all...

What do you think?

-dave
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
October 09, 2014, 08:20:05 AM
hello everybody,
I've paid for 2 s4 batch 1 that received last friday. Both of them were working ok with default parameters (not overclocked yet) until yesterday night that one of them was powered down and now I'm not able to power on it again. I've tried unplug the wire, changing the wires between them, but the result continue to be that this machine doesn't work.
Any suggestion please?
Thanks in advance.
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
October 09, 2014, 08:18:43 AM
Thanks, that's all anyone can ask!
Fudged my way through a cross compile, wedged shit in here and there, patched stuff, moved stuff around, can't remember what I did, but here's a binary:

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s4/4.6.1-141009/cgminer

I have no idea if it really is for the right architecture, where you stick it on their filesystem or what to make it work or if it will just explode in a ball of flames, but there it is.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
October 09, 2014, 07:58:17 AM
Given power estimates should be accurate at 208V+, maybe slightly worse on 120V.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
October 09, 2014, 07:55:34 AM
I have a simple question how are these doing powerwise?  on 120 volt and on 220 volt.

are they 1400 watts for 2th on btcguild? at setting 725

I ask because I do not see a lot of info on power draw.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
October 09, 2014, 04:05:57 AM
It's been a tough three days!

Day 1:
...
Day 2:
...
Day 3:
...

Someone elsewhere said Bitmain should be paying you, and they should.


This code is provided entirely free of charge by the programmer in his spare
time so donations would be greatly appreciated. Please consider donating to the
address below.

Con Kolivas <[email protected]>
15qSxP1SQcUX3o4nhkfdbgyoWEFMomJ4rZ


Thank you for summarizing Smiley
I think I might be sick.

I cut most of the quote for length, but left the donation address for ckolivas. Bitmain should be ashamed that you are not on their payroll.
hero member
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Glow Stick Dance!
October 08, 2014, 09:50:20 PM
Just one question in case I skipped it: Has the problem with the "underperformance" of the S4 been solved?
[...]

This issue is that the S4 can't communicate it's need for higher share difficulty to the pool. Btcguild and ghash both work perfectly fine share difficulty manually set to 2048.

Perfectly?  Are you getting paid perfectly?  Cuz I switched my S4 to BTC Guild over 3 days ago and, while the pool's dashboard does report my speed as just over 2TH and their pretty color charts do show my hashrate fluctuating consistently just above the 2TH line for three days solid now, I don't see to be actually getting *paid* for 2TH...

My earnings so far from this S4 on BTC Guild have been right at half of what I would have expected.  I'm actually earning the same ~$12/day from my S4 on BTC Guild as my two overclocked S3's (1TH) are paying over the same three days, which are still hashing away on Slush's pool.  Both have been running 24/7 since about 1am Oct 5th, with no power or internet disruptions at all.

This has me perplexed.  I know that slush's pool could just be lucky right now, and/or BTC Guild could be unlucky, but slush's posted luck of late has only been kinda good (and I don't see where BTC Guild posts its luck stats, as such) but anyway luck varies from day to day, this 50% of expected payout has been remarkably consistent.  And it seems unlikely that BTC Guild's payout scheme just sucks this much worse than Slush's?  I don't know -- I've never used any pool other than Slush cuz I'm old school like that, and i love their retro 1998-style geeky web design, lol.

I was very relieved to finally switch my S4 to BTC Guild, after researching extensively how to increase UserDiff at Slush's pool (only to find that he'd removed the feature after VarDiff was "perfected") but, at the end of the day, the proof is in the pudding isn't it?  And I ain't likin' this pudding!

Now I'm reluctantly forced to consider pointing the S4 back at Slush's pool since, after 8 to 12 hours, it does finally reach about 1.6 to 1.8 TH there (sometimes, for a while), and that's about .6 to .8 TH's more than I seem to getting paid for from BTC Guild :-(

Anyone else conducting a side-by-side, apples-to-apples earnings comparison between an S4 on BTC Guild and some other proven mining equipment elsewhere?

Thanks!

-dave

As of this time yesterday Slush was running at 150% luck. BTCGuild doesn't provide shares per block in order to calculate luck, but it wouldn't take much of a run of bad luck to make it seem like your 1TH/s @ 150% is similar to 2TH/s if BTCGuild had some bad luck.
BTC Guild has been crap for almost a year now.

BTCGuild's luck for the past year has been 98.154%... Not sure how that translates to "crap".

Unfortunately, public pools don't dominate the network anymore and it's become feast or famine with luck. And that manifests itself as extended periods of low payouts followed by short periods of great payouts. It's the same with every public pool.

But this isn't really the place to discuss pools. BTCGuild has a very active thread here... https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-btc-guild-pays-txfeesnmc-stratum-vardiff-private-servers-49417

Eleuthria promptly answers all questions and addresses every concern.
member
Activity: 84
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October 08, 2014, 08:36:35 PM
If you need anything, anything at all, like ssh access to an S4 such as my own, to use as a guinea pig rig, I am of course very eager to hook you up.  Coffee?  Adderall?  A foot rub?  Anything you need, mate!  I have several fine quality first born children who are negotiable, as well!

Cute Smiley

I don't have an S4, and I'm not even sure what architecture they are to create a binary for them, so it'd be doing it blind. I'll see if I can figure something out if I find the time.

No I'm not against paid work at all. I lost that inhibition when hardware companies were trying to make millions of dollars in profit while depending on my free software and rarely they'd toss me a peanut.


Thanks, that's all anyone can ask!

fyi:

Code:
  root@ant:~# uname -a
  Linux ant.bambam 3.8.13 #12 SMP Mon Sep 29 11:13:50 CST 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux

  root@ant:~# cat /etc/angstrom-version
  Angstrom v2013.06 (Core edition)
  Built from branch: angstrom-staging-yocto1.4
  Revision: 4ea94d58591603da605b9a8806b4c9dce8f59f04
  Target system: arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi

  root@ant:~# cat /etc/angstrom-build-info
  Configured Openembedded layers:
  meta-angstrom     = angstrom-v2013.06-yocto1.4:d0f7da44d73f1af26dff0a7579394a36d3098330
  meta-oe
  meta-efl
  meta-gpe
  meta-gnome
  meta-xfce
  meta-initramfs
  toolchain-layer
  meta-multimedia
  meta-networking
  meta-webserver
  meta-ruby         = angstrom-staging-yocto1.4:2f6f4b70ba03d80f9ddc1e005b9cb5176e328beb
  meta-kde          = angstrom-staging-yocto1.4:25c0a44462efc8b71ac3f3abfdfda89bbc2a6af2
  meta-opie         = master:c242efc6ca55772a88602f1f8f94dff697b38430
  meta-java         = master:7fb9465e5c2db618eedb59de5e5e013fd86cc06d
  meta-browser      = dylan:2140f2a114f7009f86479afb12a524bb157cbb0e
  meta-mono         = master:ac286b1682e6bcc486ceb30ef90a936949bbfeab
  meta-ros          = master:f69c619237e325e40b710b0c61e17b4e46eaf872
  common-bsp        = unknown:unknown
  meta-ti           = angstrom-staging-yocto1.4:04418dcadb0e3429029f34c6885538fb10624187
  meta-efikamx      = master:07f2a5c777b4f866985735303bc6d696592760a9
  meta-nslu2        = master:8948458fe3ec2b3c713b2a13a87123b64e22b0d9
  meta-htc
  meta-nokia
  meta-openmoko
  meeta-palm         = master:41c5c86813aefc21ace53edc4d3b469e9e7f87f3
  meta-handheld     = master:1dd57dcf14056901e25d8a661a7507b7d85b5a64
  meta-intel
  meta-sugarbay
  meta-crownbay
  meta-emenlow
  meta-fri2
  meta-jasperforest
  meta-n450         = dylan:adf8e9229f772d0882587e0fec43f56e617ca39f
  meta-minnow       = dylan:d5849d5ea14bc9b34ddd05b92c3a7ea46bd1863a
  meta-raspberrypi  = dylan:770b88b2ce696fddd2fdb99bbcd894a43b519f48
  meta-linaro
  meta-linaro-toolchain = dylan:7ab5e76aac4344e1a228b620f469e868e7914f2f
  meta-s3           = unknown:unknown
  meta              = angstrom-staging-yocto1.4:4ea94d58591603da605b9a8806b4c9dce8f59f04


And of course, as I said, I'm happy to provide you with ssh access to my S4 so you don't have to work blind!

Hope this helps!

thanks,

-dave
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
October 08, 2014, 05:01:39 PM
If you need anything, anything at all, like ssh access to an S4 such as my own, to use as a guinea pig rig, I am of course very eager to hook you up.  Coffee?  Adderall?  A foot rub?  Anything you need, mate!  I have several fine quality first born children who are negotiable, as well!
Cute Smiley

I don't have an S4, and I'm not even sure what architecture they are to create a binary for them, so it'd be doing it blind. I'll see if I can figure something out if I find the time.

No I'm not against paid work at all. I lost that inhibition when hardware companies were trying to make millions of dollars in profit while depending on my free software and rarely they'd toss me a peanut.
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